Still some skill about , don't loose it Britain , train youngsters to use machine tools , in many countries girls doing it starting on Dad's lathe . My never known grandad Frederick Theodore Sadler was a steam Engineer ( ships )
I needed to know why they couldn’t dig a tunnel and do an extension for most of the mainline Trains so that they could extend the unused abandoned underground train stations. Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock which will include the class 507, class 508, class 313, class 314 and class 315 remix and make them all together and also redesign all of them into an overhead wire line trains and also make most of them into Five carriages per units and also having three Disabled Toilets on those Five cars per units A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Gardner 6LXC, Cummins M11, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner LG1200 and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 8-Speed Voith Gearboxes even Loud 10-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock, class 507, class 508, class 313, class 314, and class 315 and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into 11 carriages per unit so it could have fewer doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers? A Stock Train and 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it even much more Larger and extend it to the bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Railway tunnel into a High-Speed Railway lines? The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Railway line to make it 11 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. Then put the modernised 11 carriages per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised Waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbished 11 carriages per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 47 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project if that will be OK for London Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from the Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden more Easily. Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly Line and also build brand-new underground train stations so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street can they also make another brand new underground train station in Chingford and could they extend the Piccadilly Line and the DLR right up to Chingford? All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, and 106, will be replaced by all of the Gardner 6LXC, Cummins M11, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner LG1200 and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Five carriages three disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extended roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains. Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the extended 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and can they order Every 87 Octagon and Every 48 Hexagon shape LNER diagram unique small no.13 and unique small no.11 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 147MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 147MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units, can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s, class 40’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 18 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!, oh can you make all of those 18 Tonne Boxes of Coal for all of those 147MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!!!!!! So please make sure that the Builders can do as they are told!!!!!! And PLEASE do something about these very very important Professional ideas Please? Prime Minister of England, Prime Minister of Australia, Prime Minister of Sweden, Prime Minister of Germany, Prime Minister of Italy, Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.
I wish they would build them as they are internally and externally make them all look like the Sir Nigel Gresley or The Flying Scotsman with a "chuff-chuff" sound-box.
@@smhorse Thank you for your reply, I thought so after visiting their tour, they had the boiler for Tornado on a huge revolving machine enabling all aspects of the construction to be undertaken. I think that they built a spare for Tornado and and a smaller replacement boiler for another preserved steam loco. I have studied at length how locomotive fireboxes are constructed but so far not found any complete details, anyhow, wishing you and yours a merry Christmas an a happy new year. Love from Gran Canaria.
Aren’t Tornado and Prince of Wales using the same boiler? I’m just asking because as far as I’m aware the only thing that Prince of Wales needs before it is complete is a boiler, valve gear and some pant, right?
@ModelRailwayFan38 : for practical purposes, they all use the same design - a modern version of the Diag.118. There'll be two boilers in service at any one time, plus a spare.
Sometime after this is complete, maybe in the 2030s, they should send it over stateside and have it race the PRR T1 being reproduced the same way. I’d love to see a smaller, lighter British loco race against a heavier, stronger American one
Nice idea, but thinking back to the financial disaster of Flying Scotsman's US tour which bankrupted Alan Pegler, probably unlikely. It could run with one of the magnificent USA S160s that are resident in the UK, but as they are freight locos, not really a fair comparison.
They are very different loco's designed for completely different conditions. Such a comparison is really a penis size contest. The T1 will most likely be capable of thrashing the A1, at the same time doing damage to the pernament way due to the hammer blow caused by the balance weights of a two cylinder configuration. When the Pennsy borrowed a J from the N&W, it ran 110MPH and in the process, damaged the track. 130MPH even with the divided drive, not a good idea. On the other hand, the T1 couldn't even run in Britain, too big and too heavy.
What an amazing feat of British engineering, truly awesome. Who knows what would have developed if the P2 had been a fully fledged success. Even so, this new addition to it's class has been thoroughly planned out and problems with the original locomotives will have been ironed out and with the addition of modern components needed to be able to run on the national rail network this magnificent locomotive will be an awesome sight to see and I can't wait to ride behind her. 👍🚂🚃
This should be ready just in time for the coal to run out. I'm not really a steam fan, as I do not have any memories of them, but I appreciate the engineering . I do, however, wonder at the wisdom of new build steam in a world totally against fossil fuels and what will inevitably develop as a ban. This means limited opportunity to recoup build costs. I thinkmeven my beloved diesels ard on borrowed time.
It’s not exactly like they’re replacing all current electric powered trains with steam engines lol, it’s one steam engine created for steam enthusiasts
You are of a different generation, you don't really understand that this can be running cleaner than an electric train even though it uses coal. There are clean fossil fuels available, there are synthetic oils that are used now, there are now synthetic fuels that power vehicles being used, not everything old tech is using old tech to function. If you have a mobile phone, it uses fossil fuels to make it, are you prepared to stop using one? I suggest you look at everything you take for granted and see what it's made from, your desire to see fossil fuels gone might diminish a fair bit.
@@mikeatcora "There are clean fossil fuels available" - I challenge you to show one that emits no greenhouse gases in its extraction, processing, transportation and burning. Won't this locomotive be burning coal? I'm well aware of the gigantic uses of fossil fuels in every part of our lives and I certainly - unlike many glib climate activists - do not claim there are simple, cheap solutions to the rising climate crisis. But building new coal-powered locomotives that rely on digging for fossil fuels is hardly a way to the future. "Heritage railways across the South are experiencing a serious shortage in fuel with a services could run out of steam. Operators are making the difficult decision to reduce the number of trains in an effort to conserve supply. It’s been described as a crucial in a year which the sector was looking to bounce back from the pandemic and Covid restrictions. At the Bluebell Railway in Sussex, maintenance supervisor Andy Sabin says it's becoming increasingly difficult and expensive to source traditional steam coal, "There's a lot of coal still under the ground that we can't use because of the mining ethics and carbon footprint.""* As for what is called 'bio-coal', that addresses only a small part of the problem. "Up to 20% of the new coal is biomass and is manufactured using CPL's hot cured process to provide durability. The special shape of the coal is to sit on the firebars of both narrow gauge and standard gauge steam locomotives, just like traditional coal - all while being classed as smokeless and emitting up to 80% less particulate matter than traditional coal."** That still leaves 80% as standard coal being mined, transported and burned to emit GHG. And bio-mass itself is much less carbon-neutral than claimed. * www.itv.com/news/meridian/2022-04-18/heritage-railways-warn-of-coal-shortage-as-sector-struggles-with-fuel-supply ** www.railadvent.co.uk/2022/02/first-ever-bio-coal-trial-on-full-size-steam-locomotive-takes-place-on-the-keighley-and-worth-valley-railway.html
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What a work of art that boiler is, wonderful skills on display
Still some skill about , don't loose it Britain , train youngsters to use machine tools , in many countries girls doing it starting on Dad's lathe . My never known grandad Frederick Theodore Sadler was a steam Engineer ( ships )
Fantastic to see long-lost engineering skills and methods re-ignited.
Looking good guys, really nice work...
Thank you for posting this video.
I feel like Howard Carter on first looking in to Tutankhamun's tomb and seeing "Wonderful things".
Yes, but will there be a curse to match?
Very impressive !
Excellent work. Very professional. I liked the tender axlebox covers "A1 Timken"- a nice updated touch.
I just found your channel because of this video! Subscribing now!!
Thanks very much glad you enjoyed the video
BR couldn't get rid of steam traction quick enough in the 60's. Now look at 'em. New builds popping up everywhere.
Great to see, fanbloodytastic....
Work of art. Beautiful well done 👍🏆🇬🇧
Hope Tornado gets back in action soon.
Same here, not long now!
They look to be quite advanced in their project.
I believe they aren’t long off delivery for the P2 boiler
@@SpikesSteam that’s awesome!!
The P2 should have its real name: 'Cock of the North'
Looks like tornados boiler is close to being mounted onto the frames. Hopefully not to long before we see the P2 though
Yeah Tornado is not long off being ready for testing now. Apparently the P2 boiler wasn’t far off when I last visited
I needed to know why they couldn’t dig a tunnel and do an extension for most of the mainline Trains so that they could extend the unused abandoned underground train stations. Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock which will include the class 507, class 508, class 313, class 314 and class 315 remix and make them all together and also redesign all of them into an overhead wire line trains and also make most of them into Five carriages per units and also having three Disabled Toilets on those Five cars per units A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Gardner 6LXC, Cummins M11, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner LG1200 and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 8-Speed Voith Gearboxes even Loud 10-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock, class 507, class 508, class 313, class 314, and class 315 and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into 11 carriages per unit so it could have fewer doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers? A Stock Train and 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it even much more Larger and extend it to the bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Railway tunnel into a High-Speed Railway lines? The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Railway line to make it 11 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. Then put the modernised 11 carriages per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised Waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbished 11 carriages per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 47 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project if that will be OK for London Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from the Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden more Easily. Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly Line and also build brand-new underground train stations so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street can they also make another brand new underground train station in Chingford and could they extend the Piccadilly Line and the DLR right up to Chingford? All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, and 106, will be replaced by all of the Gardner 6LXC, Cummins M11, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner LG1200 and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Five carriages three disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extended roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains. Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the extended 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and can they order Every 87 Octagon and Every 48 Hexagon shape LNER diagram unique small no.13 and unique small no.11 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 147MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 147MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units, can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s, class 40’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 18 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!, oh can you make all of those 18 Tonne Boxes of Coal for all of those 147MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!!!!!! So please make sure that the Builders can do as they are told!!!!!! And PLEASE do something about these very very important Professional ideas Please? Prime Minister of England, Prime Minister of Australia, Prime Minister of Sweden, Prime Minister of Germany, Prime Minister of Italy, Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.
Coming on nicely, should have good tractive effort with eight coupled driving wheels
Worked elsewhere, although not for express passenger trains.
@@garryferrington811 Intended to haul heavy freights.
I wish they would build them as they are internally and externally make them all look like the Sir Nigel Gresley or The Flying Scotsman with a "chuff-chuff" sound-box.
Why was 60163 dismantled. It seemed not that long ago when she was running mainline services.
Think it might be its big 10 year overhaul. Might be wrong on that one not sure! But there was some issues with the boiler with welding I know that
Amén amén amén amén amén
Who built the new boiler, and also a spare?
Meiningen Works in Germany - probably the only works left in Europe that's capable of producing large locomotive boilers at scale.
@@smhorse Thank you for your reply, I thought so after visiting their tour, they had the boiler for Tornado on a huge revolving machine enabling all aspects of the construction to be undertaken. I think that they built a spare for Tornado and and a smaller replacement boiler for another preserved steam loco. I have studied at length how locomotive fireboxes are constructed but so far not found any complete details, anyhow, wishing you and yours a merry Christmas an a happy new year. Love from Gran Canaria.
Aren’t Tornado and Prince of Wales using the same boiler? I’m just asking because as far as I’m aware the only thing that Prince of Wales needs before it is complete is a boiler, valve gear and some pant, right?
@ModelRailwayFan38 : for practical purposes, they all use the same design - a modern version of the Diag.118. There'll be two boilers in service at any one time, plus a spare.
They told me when I was there that there are going to be three boilers, 60163 Tornado, 2007 Prince of Wales and a spare boiler
Sometime after this is complete, maybe in the 2030s, they should send it over stateside and have it race the PRR T1 being reproduced the same way. I’d love to see a smaller, lighter British loco race against a heavier, stronger American one
Nice idea, but thinking back to the financial disaster of Flying Scotsman's US tour which bankrupted Alan Pegler, probably unlikely.
It could run with one of the magnificent USA S160s that are resident in the UK, but as they are freight locos, not really a fair comparison.
They are very different loco's designed for completely different conditions. Such a comparison is really a penis size contest. The T1 will most likely be capable of thrashing the A1, at the same time doing damage to the pernament way due to the hammer blow caused by the balance weights of a two cylinder configuration. When the Pennsy borrowed a J from the N&W, it ran 110MPH and in the process, damaged the track. 130MPH even with the divided drive, not a good idea. On the other hand, the T1 couldn't even run in Britain, too big and too heavy.
I would also like to see this
Yeah, I'm sure the railway operators would be thrilled to bits. And I'm sure you'll help pay for it, right?
That's unequal a priori, so what for? Competitors should be of the same type. And the same route, of course.
What an amazing feat of British engineering, truly awesome. Who knows what would have developed if the P2 had been a fully fledged success. Even so, this new addition to it's class has been thoroughly planned out and problems with the original locomotives will have been ironed out and with the addition of modern components needed to be able to run on the national rail network this magnificent locomotive will be an awesome sight to see and I can't wait to ride behind her. 👍🚂🚃
Too quick and jerky to enjoy.
That's what I keep telling my other half.
This should be ready just in time for the coal to run out. I'm not really a steam fan, as I do not have any memories of them, but I appreciate the engineering . I do, however, wonder at the wisdom of new build steam in a world totally against fossil fuels and what will inevitably develop as a ban. This means limited opportunity to recoup build costs. I thinkmeven my beloved diesels ard on borrowed time.
Human driven climate change is a scam. Wake up.
Theirs coal for the next 1,000 years in wales and up north
@user-gt2jh1eb4l No mines open though.
Won't happen. Brings too many tourists and dosh.. Net zero will be out of the window by then, following the other disaster EU membership
Because the world is crying out for more coal-powered public transport...
That boat has sailed, hit the reefs and sunk. We might as well enjoy ourselves in the liferaft, because no one is coming to rescue us.
It’s not exactly like they’re replacing all current electric powered trains with steam engines lol, it’s one steam engine created for steam enthusiasts
You are of a different generation, you don't really understand that this can be running cleaner than an electric train even though it uses coal. There are clean fossil fuels available, there are synthetic oils that are used now, there are now synthetic fuels that power vehicles being used, not everything old tech is using old tech to function. If you have a mobile phone, it uses fossil fuels to make it, are you prepared to stop using one? I suggest you look at everything you take for granted and see what it's made from, your desire to see fossil fuels gone might diminish a fair bit.
@@mikeatcora "There are clean fossil fuels available" - I challenge you to show one that emits no greenhouse gases in its extraction, processing, transportation and burning. Won't this locomotive be burning coal? I'm well aware of the gigantic uses of fossil fuels in every part of our lives and I certainly - unlike many glib climate activists - do not claim there are simple, cheap solutions to the rising climate crisis. But building new coal-powered locomotives that rely on digging for fossil fuels is hardly a way to the future.
"Heritage railways across the South are experiencing a serious shortage in fuel with a services could run out of steam. Operators are making the difficult decision to reduce the number of trains in an effort to conserve supply. It’s been described as a crucial in a year which the sector was looking to bounce back from the pandemic and Covid restrictions. At the Bluebell Railway in Sussex, maintenance supervisor Andy Sabin says it's becoming increasingly difficult and expensive to source traditional steam coal, "There's a lot of coal still under the ground that we can't use because of the mining ethics and carbon footprint.""*
As for what is called 'bio-coal', that addresses only a small part of the problem. "Up to 20% of the new coal is biomass and is manufactured using CPL's hot cured process to provide durability. The special shape of the coal is to sit on the firebars of both narrow gauge and standard gauge steam locomotives, just like traditional coal - all while being classed as smokeless and emitting up to 80% less particulate matter than traditional coal."** That still leaves 80% as standard coal being mined, transported and burned to emit GHG. And bio-mass itself is much less carbon-neutral than claimed.
* www.itv.com/news/meridian/2022-04-18/heritage-railways-warn-of-coal-shortage-as-sector-struggles-with-fuel-supply
** www.railadvent.co.uk/2022/02/first-ever-bio-coal-trial-on-full-size-steam-locomotive-takes-place-on-the-keighley-and-worth-valley-railway.html
Man doesn't contribute to the natural cycle of planetary warming so we'll be okay.