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enrc vcnt dude I’m just talking about the tone used in the video, i know it’s probably digital, but I’m not choosing between tones he didn’t use, I’m choosing between the tones he did use, and in the instance, the Mexi Strat takes it for me
@@Plockman29 it depends on what you want to play. If u dont even care about chugging and the more extreme techniques then ur going to be fine with a squier plus u can mod it so it has atleast a hss setup.
Suggestion: play all the guitars through the cheap amp and then play all the the guitars through the expensive amp. That would be a better comparison so you're just changing one variable instead of two. Get a better idea of how each guitar changes with the amps.
It's already been proven that a good guitarist with shitty gear will pretty much always sound better than a bad one with good gear. :P There are dozens of tests on youtube, even done by rob chapman himself, so.... all you need to do is look. >w>
@@airconditioningunit9777 it all depends on the sound you're after and how you mic and mix. But yes, it can be very surprising sometimes how cheaper amps can sound far, far better than the more expensive ones
I thought maybe it was just the amp but after seeing other TH-camrs play them, the Chapman sounds so subpar for their price. My $200 Ibanez sounds better on my peavy 15w
Yeah idk why people say they like the fender the most, the fender sounds scooped, idk if he had different amp settings but the sound just sounded weak and not meaty enough in comparison with the others.
I did quad track. Now I just double track. I think quad tracking isn't worth the time. I would use that time to perfect my mix. And I think it doesn't matter in this video if he gives all the setups the same treatment.
@G3garton Yeah. People who make fun of it are the same people that run it through a shitty squire amp. But even then, you fine tune the settings and stuff, you'll get a pretty good tone.
BloBzy TH-cam I was wondering the same haha. either it his fault or the brand isn't that good. Note: I have personally not played a chapman before so I can't say more.
To my mind : 1 - Revv - 5700 2 - Fender - 1000 3 - Victory - 2250 4 - Ibanez - 170 But, to be honest, i'd rather like to put money in the 170 pac than in the 2250 one.
Yeah man the 2250 is trying to be like the 5700 but it's not clean enough so it's in between sounding kind of dirty but cool, and really crisp and clean. Which kind of just sucks because it's neither this nor that. I would much rather get 1000 than 2250.
This video actually helped a lot, I've never played guitar before and I've currently been searching for a first good affordable guitar to buy so I can learn. The squire actually sounds pretty nice
It's 100% worth it to get something cheap first. If your passion burns out, you didn't waste too much money, but if you get good and really get into it, a new and more expensive guitar will feel VERY comfortable and worth it 👌
Yeah for that kind of riff the Squier/SS Ibanez amp combination are decent. If he were to go to a clean sound, it would be different. The Squier can pull off a clean sound, the amp can't. I actually prefer the SS distortion sounds at times, especially if it's in the context of ambient background power chords, think of the guitar part to Phill Collins' "In the Air Tonight." Now for pretty much everything else that's not LoFi, I want full on Tube Saturation.
I Rather get the 1000$ budget because the cheap one sounds a bit low and less distorted and the 1000$ seems decent and enough if you wanna play like Jared
That's because he fucked up the eqing or the micing, this amp with this guit should sound stellar, just check out Rabea Massad's channel, he makes it sounds better than roaring thunder!
Beauty Through Art of Music to me it seemed he miced down from the center on the right/top right speaker. the eqs all sounded flat. so that would make a comparisson with the closest factors he could do. i myself liked the squire and ibanez equally to the most expensive set. the 3rd i liked the natural bass but not the mid range sounded to tinny. the 2nd set didnt pop to my ear at all.
If Jared couldn't get a better sound out of that guitar/amp rig, then the problem is his. Both the guitar and the amp are a lot more capable than that.
Timmy Time he probably changed around the soundtracks, the first one sounds like the expensive tone, second is the actual tone of the fender rig, third sounds like the 170 and the last sound like the victory Chapman rig
Is this an Avenged Sevenfold song? Please can you help me with the name. Would love to hear the rest but cannot find it. Avenged songs are pretty long. Not sure if they play this riff from the start. Thanks.
sadbuttrue319 don't get me wrong, I love rob, and the ghost feet looks sick. But. The victory sounds like shit. I've listened to the guitar by itself and it sounded really decent. But here's the problem.... it's too expensive for a Korean made guitar.
Ali Rafiei he had it EQd awfully, I can guarantee it would sound better if Mr Massaad played through it although is it only Rabea's playing that makes it the case...
Ali Rafiei It completely depends where your from. In the UK there very well priced under £1000 when they should be over that. The Chapmans are made in the best factory in South Korea. And Chapman are the cheapest guitars made to high spec made at World Musical Instruments. Compared to the other companies who build guitars there. Economy can be a bitch e.g Marshall amps are cheaper in the UK than the US.
I mean...I liked the squier A LOT, sounded nice and open and early-metal...Didn't really like the Chapman one at all; Mexi strat one sounded a little thin for my tastes...and the last one...no, not for that price
I thought the squier was fine until I heard the others and I don't listen to a lot (or any at all besides a bit of black sabbath) of metal, I liked the mexi but I totally agree on the Chapman. Also, I thought the last one was nothing special, especially for the price.
To get the right tone from a mexi strat (I know I own one as my primary guitar) you need to use 10-gauge strings to really make the guitar pop and stand out. Otherwise, swapping out for a few dimarzios is never a bad plan. :P
Owned a couple of Squiers in the past. Had one fitted with a Duncan Hot Rails in the bridge and ran it through an MXR distortion +, Vox Brian May amp, and a Peavy PA head. to get a decent imitation of the Bob Mould Husker sound. If you have a bit of imagination and like to mess around some you can get nice sounds out of budget setups.
JP JPJP True true! I have a Squire Tele with the mirror pickguard that is great. Its pretty stock (but doesn't look it) and my tech set it up and made some modifications to the electronics. That said it will hold its own against a MIM or American Tele. I have gigged it and it sounds just fine with a few different amps.
For a great example, James Hetfield's Flying V for the first two Metallica albums was a knockoff by a company called Electra. IIRC one of the guitarists for legends Mercyful Fate was playing a Cort around the time of their second album. That was one of the the absolute budget brands of the time.
ClamFishing I actually like the feel of Squier Bullets. They just need a couple upgrades. i'm wanting to try the new Bullet Mustang when it comes out. I would also add Epiphone makes a better neck than Gibson
If you'd know the pedigree of the Electra guitars... You'd be fucking amazed. I hunt old Aria, Greco, Electra, Ibanez Roadstar series, Fernandes like there's no tomorrow. Japanese quality at its best. Marty Friedman has an Electra LP that kicks ass. The humbuchers in that flying v made that thick Metallica sound. not emg, not esp/ltd.
Oddly, I thought the fender setup for $1,000 by far had the best sound for the song. If you'd asked me to guess before hearing any of them which I though was going to be the worst sounding guitars for metal, I'd have picked the squire and then the strat. In my opinion, the absolute worst sounding rig was the Chapman Explorer through the Victory amp. Horribly thin sounding! However, very hard to tell since even the squire might have sounded better through one of the other amps. I'd have to agree with tenplex that you should have played every guitar through every amp to get an accurate assessment. While it was a nice concept, the way you went about the comparison was sort of like trying to find out which car is faster, the Honda Civic on a Nascar track, or a Corvette on an icy road. Just not the best way to get a straight up comparison. Just my opinion, but the video was still very much appreciated.
I agree, he should of done everything through each level of amp. As someone with various guitars, I oddly like my Mexi stat tone over my collings CL with humbachers (similar in spec to a custom shop Gibson LP)
Mostly went as expected, cheap sound is workable but not great and then it moves up as you get more expensive, except for one exception. I really did not like the sound of the Ghost Fret and the Kraken. I don't know if it's something to do with the tone that a Kraken can produce or whether Jared did something different with the settings but it sounded hollow and just bad. That's the sound I'd expect out of my semi-broken Fender Mustang digital amp, not a $1500 valve amp.
Chris Preece The Krakens are amazing. I was at a Dorje Concert a few weeks ago and Bea's sound was great. But yes, the sound in this video wasn't the best.
ReN yes but they used what they (it probably wasn’t $200) but when I first started playing I had a cheap copy strat and a Marshall Lead 12 combo (solid state) and just threw a BOSS DS-1 and it was all about $250
Here are the tabs for the beginning lowE 0 A 3-4 lowE *palm muted* 0-0 A 3*hammer on to*-4 lowE*palm muted*-0 D 3*pull off* A 5 lowE 0 A3-4 lowE 3-4-5 *same thing but on the last part the lowE 3-4-5 with power chords and then the same thing but regular single notes lowE 3-4-5 and alternate 1 time each* (Edit) sorry if this doesn't match up I tried my best
Not sure if anyone has said the yet, but what would the different guitars sound like on the different amps? And, I agree, the Chapmans are way overhyped... it almost sounded.. hollow.
The issue is that the cheap one was super dark, so it didn't have a lot of high-end issues you ran into like with the 2 options after that... Just EQing all the sting-y frequencies out of the middle 2 would've done A LOT. Not to mention.. you still recorded all of this with a Shure sm7B and good mix... The expensive one wins BY FAR, but it's not a very fair comparison.
how did they win? They were tinny, no bass, no midrange sounded screechy as hell. ONE of the amps he dialed in with sweet distortion but other than that they sucked. Being a $$$ snob usually means youre preparing excuses for low self esteem.
That music man majesty along with the revv sounded beautifully full and crisp... Not sure how you don't hear that. I'm not a $$$ snob. Not even close. I prefer amp sims and drum samples over tens of thousands of drum room/amp heads/cabs/etc... The 2 middle ones had VERY annoying frequencies that should've been EQd out like one would do on any professional recording... The cheap one was way too dark to have audible annoyances like that.
The 170$ setup sounded like ass. There's no other way to put it. The 2 "mid range priced" ones sounded like semi-ass. The music man majesty sounded like it should sound.
The setup is for a metal sound not old hi-mids blues tone. The ibanez practice amp sounded more like a cheap copy of a simulated plexi superlead. The mustang gt100 captures the tone of a 1980s or early 90s thrash metal sound, which is more heavy bright sound. Not to mention it is almost like a cloned of a vintage thrash/death metal sound. You can distinguish it clearly with it's low mids and high freq range. But honestly, I'm disappointed with the victory's tone. But I believe the revv is suited for modern metal setup, somehow.
You should've mixed it up and thrown the cheap guitar on a nice cabinet ... and shown the difference of a expensive guitar on the practice amp! Either way great video!! Shreddin!!
Pretty sure he fucked up the EQ on that amp. The guitar has humbuckers and good ones at that, and the amps sound incredible, so I blame Jared for having it totally wrong.
Just came back from Guitar Center today, got myself the same exact squire! Always wanted an electric guitar, but never bought one because of the price. I never knew cheap could sound so fucking good relative to the price!!
That $170 build somehow sounded more pleasant to my ears than the $1000 & $2250 ones. The real difference that is worth the money is the difference between the least and the best variants that were shown in this video. Kinda sums it up I'd say.
I honestly really liked the raw tone of the Squire/Ibanez combo more than the others, for this riff at least. It just sounded punchy and not cleaned up, which is sometimes better for certain types of metal. I’m sure it sounds different when you’re not hearing it from a mic, but when in this video it sounded great imo.
You don't buy something expensive just for the "Tone", that shitty guitar might have ok tone but it's sustain might be complete shit and each note could be lasting for 7 seconds while on the expensive it can last quadriple that or more, also the build quality, and how comfortable it is plays a big role, lastly something expensive as a Majesty gives you a ton more options to experiment with, including an expensive amp.
Its a totally different tone. You can do a lot to modify the tone of a cheap guitar but you wont get the tone of a revv out of a 100 dolla amp, unless modelling.
in my hey-day of playing guitar back in 2014-2017 (Sadly I rarely play due to location noise complaints and lack of free time and motivation) My main rig was an LTD EC1000 (£850) and Peavey Vypyr 100W (£200). The sound was honestly fantastic, with the built in effects and the pedal accessory you could do a lot with it, I was able to easily gig in local bars and clubs with my aspiring band back in college. If there's one thing I learned over the years, price doesn't make you sound better only different. It's practice and hard work to get the sounds you want, a cheap beginner amp will do just fine at home, and an intermediate one will easily cover small local venues or practice rooms with a group. You never need to break the bank when you want to upgrade your sound through equipment try everything, Try guitars for tone and comfortability, style always comes last. Amps are trial and error, don't judge by brand you might be in a death metal band and find out that some old marshal amp from 2002 has the perfect mix of highs and lows for you.
close micing helps us all ignore very real differences in actual sound. You'd notice more difference in comparison done on a room mic with nearly identical moderately loud volume similar to live or recording setups. That said different setups will pass in different circumstances. I can't expect the cheapest to hold up next to any kind of drumming or band situation because the speaker is like 5 inches and the amp is like 9.024369 watts lol. But I can overpower any drummer with the last one, possssibly the last two. Those things matter. Long story short context is king and it is possible a teeny weeny setup can sound comparable to a much more powerful and pricey one if the recording setup is done well.
@@morganthem yes true. This small amp would'nt be sufficient to overpower acoustic drums. However, nowdays with concerts etc. They will mic up the drums and amp so "overpowering" the drums really doesn't matter here. I think it's the mic setup and EQ'ing that makes the differents.
I've got a Mesa full stack, a Roland jc120, and an esp snakebtye. Just kidding. I've got an eiphone goth explorer, and a line6 spider IV (Which is straight ass) I'm saving up for a blackstar ht club 40
Imagine you’re at a Metallica Concert and James whips out a hot pink Squier
I’d pay to see that
Ayyyy 69 likes nice
that’s metal asf
Man I thought that pink squier sounded good, I must’ve been listening to cheap guitars all my life
In anyway you would have payed to see the concert
I was genuinely surprised by the sound coming out of that Ibanez practice amp.
Agreed
Because it's mic'd...
Still sounded bad
I actually think it sounded better than the chapman. 😂
Yeeh is it miced?
Idk about y’all but i was really into the tone from the Mexi Strat, it was so clean and crisp
Sounds digital. A katana could do better.
enrc vcnt dude I’m just talking about the tone used in the video, i know it’s probably digital, but I’m not choosing between tones he didn’t use, I’m choosing between the tones he did use, and in the instance, the Mexi Strat takes it for me
Creature oh. You know what that is probably good. Best price too.
Same, I dont know what it is but that Mexi strat sounds the best to me
Ikr
How did you get such horrible tone out of that Kraken? I'm genuinely impressed.
I liked that tone the most
Too much mid-range on the eq
@@JackLeeTheFirst Do you know what an EQ is?
I was thinking the same thing
@@MrLazer-vm1tj sounds awful I dont know what youre listening to
gonna be honest i dont think the 170 sounds bad
I agree
ye im too afraid to comment it myself
@@ivenalanko2462 lol I don't blame you🙄👍
For me it's flat sound is causeb by amp or more like amp's speaker
money isn't everything if you can make a cheap gat sound good u can make anything sound good
The cheapest and most expensive sounded best. The two middlings had weird mid-scoop to me.
the mexi strat was the best one lol
Mexi Strat just had a lot of tone actually, but I think
1. Music Man
2. Mexi Strat
3. Squier
4. Chapman
agent001 001 yeah I love strats they sound great
@@ryanbr4dy1 main issue with that one is there's no humbucker so it's limited
@@Plockman29 it depends on what you want to play. If u dont even care about chugging and the more extreme techniques then ur going to be fine with a squier plus u can mod it so it has atleast a hss setup.
Suggestion: play all the guitars through the cheap amp and then play all the the guitars through the expensive amp. That would be a better comparison so you're just changing one variable instead of two. Get a better idea of how each guitar changes with the amps.
tenplex amp is most of the sound difference anyways
Yeah that's a pretty good idea!
tenplex the cabinet makes the most difference in sound, cheap speakers and construction will just sound cheap
It's already been proven that a good guitarist with shitty gear will pretty much always sound better than a bad one with good gear. :P There are dozens of tests on youtube, even done by rob chapman himself, so.... all you need to do is look. >w>
tenplex yeah even I thought of the same, it was really dumb of Jared to compare it like this.
when a $90 squire sounds better than a 750 ghost chapman.....
it's pretty much always the amp. its the victory that sounds like that
Still insane how the amp, worth over 1k, is worse than an ibanez practice amp worth 50-70
@@airconditioningunit9777 it all depends on the sound you're after and how you mic and mix. But yes, it can be very surprising sometimes how cheaper amps can sound far, far better than the more expensive ones
@@airconditioningunit9777 the ibanez sounds like someone farting wdym it sounds better
lukaout dunno my ears are bad so at least for me it sounds good
Honestly I'd have to say it was
1. $5700
2. $1000
3. $170
4. $2250
The Chapman + Victory Kraken sounded really hollow to me.
Yeah, it didn't have the same punch that the others did. Even the pink Strat had more to show.
Geezy BT I think Chapman is way to expensive
That was the Kraken rather than the Chapman, it ruins every guitar's tone
Geezy BT 2250 made the same slayer sound style
Geezy BT I agree
Pretty sure he did this just to flex on us
But what about all the other vids..lol?
Rootus and Loongus r/whoooosh
That's all of his guitar vids bud
Ben Parsons true 😂😂
Ganos Thenie did that guy delete his comment
I dont know why, but the chapman sounds worst to me
Guilherme Pereira because Chapman's are way too overhyped
Buster Bloodvessel true
Guilherme Pereira yea it does sound kind of bad and hollow
yeah really scooped and bit muddy
Probably just the way he's got the amp dialed in.
For me in order I like:
1. Majesty
2. Squire
3. Fender
4. Chapman
I thought maybe it was just the amp but after seeing other TH-camrs play them, the Chapman sounds so subpar for their price. My $200 Ibanez sounds better on my peavy 15w
Yeah idk why people say they like the fender the most, the fender sounds scooped, idk if he had different amp settings but the sound just sounded weak and not meaty enough in comparison with the others.
You kidding me? The Fender had the clearest guitar sound.
@@ncrtrooper2856 keep in mind most of us are listening off of a phone speaker lol
1.Squier
2..Majesty
3.Strat
4.Chapman
But what if you plugged the cheapest guitar into the most expensive amp, and then vice versa.
I second this, I'm very curious of how that'd turn out.
Doug Yeager spectremediasound already did ... go check the video... and leave a "fuck you Glenn" .. it's a tradition...
Yeah do that!
Doug Yeager or plug the Guitars into the same amp
This^
The cheapest guitar actually didn't sound that bad, but more expensive ones had better sound
metal beast Exactly my thoughts
Mexi strat sounded pretty cool to me
@@petar6987 sounded too scooped ngl
I feel its more about the amp, my friend has a $150 guitar and $270 amp and it sounds great
Thought the cheap strat sounded. Switch out pickups. Voila!!
Bruh I just realized how bad my 450$ setup actually sounds...
My setup is £149 bruh. I have a nice guitar but my amp is complete garbage
@@Fluminox- ye that´s my problem too. I´ve got retarded Kustom sh*t worth 50 Euro.
I have a 200 dollar Ibanez GIO And a Marshall amp and I NEED THE RAWNESS
@@simonpetrech3136 I've got a Rockjam GA20W amp that has distortion that sounds like radio static lmao
I have a £769 guitar and a £300 amp very good sound
I like the cheepest one the best because it sounds raw
Agreed.
Cheapest
I do like that, high school talent show sound quality ngl
the mexi strat sounds way too scooped, but the chapman sounds raw too
Trve kvlt
I can make any guitar sound cheap
Whoa same
How?
Cool Golden srsly?
SAME BRO😂
Omg I can too
Loved the raw punchy tone of the $1000 dollar rig
Same here. I liked it the most
Yeah
I like the mexi strat best as well
For me it sounded like typic racing flash videogame
Then go buy the amp and pedals he used lmfao train ur ears brother
Well, i got a cheap guitar, exchanged the neck, tuners, body, strings and pickups and it sounds great now.
DogeWow Real much wow
Why not just buy an guitar that is a bit more expensive then? not a lot but you know a little more
Did ya make a frankenstrat or something
DogeWow Real I bet to get all that was more expensive then the guitar itself.
So you just but a new guitar
I hate it when you say "I'ma buy a bass" then they say "but you already got a guitar"
To paraphrase king Solomon: why not both?
Ok DIO, slapping bass in Egypt as always?
@@johnkren2636 you have mentioned me?
Not epico
everything sounds good when you quad-track in stereo and top notch mixing lol
Agreed, not to a mention a kick ass mic, pre-amp, and bit rate recording.
Spunky Brewster Nope.
Was thinking the same thing. Wish he had played without all of the editing.
Well isn't that the point though? What will it sound like in a studio mix? All but the $2500 setup sounded good in their own way.
I did quad track. Now I just double track. I think quad tracking isn't worth the time. I would use that time to perfect my mix.
And I think it doesn't matter in this video if he gives all the setups the same treatment.
The 2,250 rig sounds like my metalzone haha.
Lmao right I rock the same lol
@G3garton Yeah. People who make fun of it are the same people that run it through a shitty squire amp. But even then, you fine tune the settings and stuff, you'll get a pretty good tone.
I love the tone of the $2,250 rig so much
@@dirtcobain7777 yeah. And it sounds even better when plugged in the effects loop
Lol it does
90% of guitar youtubers are canadian metalheads
Ok..??? Your point lol?
Stevie t
Jared’s from Washington state...
There American
I’m a Canadian Metalhead so I would know
True Best to Worst:
1. Fender Strat + Mustang & Music Man + Revv TIE
3. Squier Strat + Ibanez
4. Chapcrap + Defeat Cocksucken
4.cheapcrap + defeat "fish"
$1000 was my favorite
Yea
I think it's the most reasonable and common rig.
Reborndom 2504 that was probably the worst.
Yeah, I think alot of people can agre
Me too
The Mexi Strat sounded the gnarliest!!!
Dorito Dude 360 nobody says gnarly anymore
BootyRat 543 2009*
Logan Brumbaugh he’s a true gamer
Super Sandwich yes
I created my account when MLG was still a thing
there was something wrong with the chapman or something. It sounded terible
yeah, its tone was fucked. I think he messed up something cuz I've heard a chapman playing live and it sounded as good as the most expensive one
I think maybe it was the positioning of the microphone against the speaker cab??
Android it's most likely the pickups, because the Chapman stock ones have a bad reputation
Leo Montano yes there was, it was a chapman
Leo Montano Its tone was waaay too thick
1st: mexi strat
2nd: music man majesty
3rd: pink strat
4th chapman
btw thanks for the 196 likes
Same
dude..
I agree that chapman was the worst
@Cédrik Coutu squier strat sounds better
Same, the mexi strat had my favorite sound
Bruh this ain't even cheap. 50$ is expensive for me 😂😂
Sames but people say "budget" is around 200 at least
Same bruh
My amp and guitar put together cost $50
@Jonathan M my uncle lol family deal
@@viktorhurst8815 Well i bought my guitar, amp and rp55 FROM STORE for 350₺ 7 years ago. Which makes around 65 $
i really don't know how you made that chapman sound like shit but whatever
BloBzy TH-cam I was wondering the same haha. either it his fault or the brand isn't that good. Note: I have personally not played a chapman before so I can't say more.
BloBzy TH-cam I was gonna say. Chapman's are pretty good guitars. My old guitarist has one and it's pretty sick.
It may be tthe kraken.
could be the kraken but that was the worst tone I've ever heard. anyways.
They've all sounded great to me, apart from this one. This is legit the only video that has made the Kraken sound terrible.
To my mind :
1 - Revv - 5700
2 - Fender - 1000
3 - Victory - 2250
4 - Ibanez - 170
But, to be honest, i'd rather like to put money in the 170 pac than in the 2250 one.
Romain Feauveau Ibanez.?????
Totally agree
Yeah man the 2250 is trying to be like the 5700 but it's not clean enough so it's in between sounding kind of dirty but cool, and really crisp and clean. Which kind of just sucks because it's neither this nor that.
I would much rather get 1000 than 2250.
@@T0ast3r Squier is Basically Ibanez
Romain Feauveau that victory sounded like garbage
This video actually helped a lot, I've never played guitar before and I've currently been searching for a first good affordable guitar to buy so I can learn. The squire actually sounds pretty nice
It's 100% worth it to get something cheap first. If your passion burns out, you didn't waste too much money, but if you get good and really get into it, a new and more expensive guitar will feel VERY comfortable and worth it 👌
I freakin like sound of this 1000$ guitar •_•
Sorry
Omg haha made my day😂😂
Mexican strats sound so good.
But i'm Polish and PLN is strong... ...so :3
I think you mean the $1,000 rig.
I must admit, that i somewhat liked the sound of the first one. :o
During the chugging you can hear a lot of feedback
It would sound good in a punk rock setting though
Zane Fox i like the feedback sound for certain situations
me too
Yeah for that kind of riff the Squier/SS Ibanez amp combination are decent. If he were to go to a clean sound, it would be different. The Squier can pull off a clean sound, the amp can't. I actually prefer the SS distortion sounds at times, especially if it's in the context of ambient background power chords, think of the guitar part to Phill Collins' "In the Air Tonight." Now for pretty much everything else that's not LoFi, I want full on Tube Saturation.
170$ is good
I agree
I wouldnt say its the best one but it still holds up real well for what it is
To me. The 170$ don't sound bad either. : /
Not the best but good enough!
Niin on
Ngl I kinda like the dirtiness of the first one...
For me:
1 - 1000
2 - 170
3 - 5700
4 - 2250
Same
@@NFS9111 Stfu really.He was a bad guitarist
Same
@@leftistnazi1053 Clearly he cant be that bad if he popularized an entire genre of music
SAME!!”!!!!!!”!”?!L”
Do the same thing with drums, cymbals, and mics
YES!
Yes. That's what I also thought when i saw this video
Way too much variability man. Most drums these days are compressed and EQed beyond belief.
Kmully and bass also
agree
Try with expensive guitar and cheap amp or cheap guitar and expensive amp!! \m/
\m/
The ibanez amp actually is pretty good....
Yes it is good
I rock a gibson les paul through a crate amp.... sounds legit af.
Chappers and Anderson did that over on Chapman's channel.
I don’t understand why i’m watching these comparisons with my phone. They all sound same with iPhone speaker .
i have a cheap android phone and they have some difference
I have an iPhone & I can hear the difference
I Rather get the 1000$ budget because the cheap one sounds a bit low and less distorted and the 1000$ seems decent and enough if you wanna play like Jared
The tone for the squier and ibanez amp wasn't that bad actually, I daresay it was better than the $1000 combo
That's because he fucked up the eqing or the micing, this amp with this guit should sound stellar, just check out Rabea Massad's channel, he makes it sounds better than roaring thunder!
Beauty Through Art of Music to me it seemed he miced down from the center on the right/top right speaker. the eqs all sounded flat. so that would make a comparisson with the closest factors he could do. i myself liked the squire and ibanez equally to the most expensive set. the 3rd i liked the natural bass but not the mid range sounded to tinny. the 2nd set didnt pop to my ear at all.
If Jared couldn't get a better sound out of that guitar/amp rig, then the problem is his. Both the guitar and the amp are a lot more capable than that.
The first amp was an ibanez IBZ10G. the $70 amp
You're right. I was talking about the Victory amp with the Chapman guitar, in response to Noggest.
Why did the Ghost fret and the Kraken sound the worst out of all of them
Timmy Time I actually thought the fender and the mustang sounded the worst
shockt9610 same. The chapman sounded hollow but the mexi strat/mustang sounded like he had all the bass and mids scooped
The Chapman + Kraken probably didn't sound good because of:
1. bad amp settings
2. bad mic placement
Tim Vinck Definitely. There's no way in hell that the setup can sound that bad next to the $170 setup if both are performing at their full potential.
Timmy Time he probably changed around the soundtracks, the first one sounds like the expensive tone, second is the actual tone of the fender rig, third sounds like the 170 and the last sound like the victory Chapman rig
1:54 maybe the amp company likes avenged sevenfold and made a tribute to the Rev
Is this an Avenged Sevenfold song? Please can you help me with the name. Would love to hear the rest but cannot find it. Avenged songs are pretty long. Not sure if they play this riff from the start. Thanks.
@@quintinvanwyngaardt4576 it isn't the riff, the name of the amp in the video is the Revv generator
Dude you make all guitars sound like 1,000,000,000 dollar guitars
is this sarcasm? That Music Man could sound 1,000,000,000x better if you ask me.
no one ask...bitch
Balista Gram i
Because he is Jared
probably because all of jareds videos are are mixed
Fuuuck.. The last one was beautiful...
mike warriorr ikr
Yep I agree ;) 🤘🏻🤑
1. Musicman and Revv
2. Mexican Strat and Fender mustang
3. Squier strat and ibanez
4. Strings attached to a donkey's penis
5. Chapman and victory
I have to agree. Buying a donkey will pay for itself, unlike anything Rob Chapman has released.
sadbuttrue319 don't get me wrong, I love rob, and the ghost feet looks sick. But. The victory sounds like shit. I've listened to the guitar by itself and it sounded really decent. But here's the problem.... it's too expensive for a Korean made guitar.
Ali Rafiei he had it EQd awfully, I can guarantee it would sound better if Mr Massaad played through it although is it only Rabea's playing that makes it the case...
Ali Rafiei It completely depends where your from. In the UK there very well priced under £1000 when they should be over that. The Chapmans are made in the best factory in South Korea. And Chapman are the cheapest guitars made to high spec made at World Musical Instruments. Compared to the other companies who build guitars there. Economy can be a bitch e.g Marshall amps are cheaper in the UK than the US.
Gethin Jones they're not any cheaper than the other guitars from that factory anymore
If you can play like Jared. Then you can even make people headbang with a toy guitar or ukelele
I mean...I liked the squier A LOT, sounded nice and open and early-metal...Didn't really like the Chapman one at all; Mexi strat one sounded a little thin for my tastes...and the last one...no, not for that price
I thought the squier was fine until I heard the others and I don't listen to a lot (or any at all besides a bit of black sabbath) of metal, I liked the mexi but I totally agree on the Chapman. Also, I thought the last one was nothing special, especially for the price.
To get the right tone from a mexi strat (I know I own one as my primary guitar) you need to use 10-gauge strings to really make the guitar pop and stand out. Otherwise, swapping out for a few dimarzios is never a bad plan. :P
imglidinhere Good information, and it is right info. And I now it becauseci own a Square
Never underestimate a squier
Owned a couple of Squiers in the past. Had one fitted with a Duncan Hot Rails in the bridge and ran it through an MXR distortion +, Vox Brian May amp, and a Peavy PA head. to get a decent imitation of the Bob Mould Husker sound.
If you have a bit of imagination and like to mess around some you can get nice sounds out of budget setups.
JP JPJP
True true! I have a Squire Tele with the mirror pickguard that is great. Its pretty stock (but doesn't look it) and my tech set it up and made some modifications to the electronics. That said it will hold its own against a MIM or American Tele. I have gigged it and it sounds just fine with a few different amps.
For a great example, James Hetfield's Flying V for the first two Metallica albums was a knockoff by a company called Electra. IIRC one of the guitarists for legends Mercyful Fate was playing a Cort around the time of their second album. That was one of the the absolute budget brands of the time.
ClamFishing I actually like the feel of Squier Bullets. They just need a couple upgrades. i'm wanting to try the new Bullet Mustang when it comes out. I would also add Epiphone makes a better neck than Gibson
If you'd know the pedigree of the Electra guitars... You'd be fucking amazed. I hunt old Aria, Greco, Electra, Ibanez Roadstar series, Fernandes like there's no tomorrow. Japanese quality at its best. Marty Friedman has an Electra LP that kicks ass. The humbuchers in that flying v made that thick Metallica sound. not emg, not esp/ltd.
Oddly, I thought the fender setup for $1,000 by far had the best sound for the song. If you'd asked me to guess before hearing any of them which I though was going to be the worst sounding guitars for metal, I'd have picked the squire and then the strat. In my opinion, the absolute worst sounding rig was the Chapman Explorer through the Victory amp. Horribly thin sounding! However, very hard to tell since even the squire might have sounded better through one of the other amps. I'd have to agree with tenplex that you should have played every guitar through every amp to get an accurate assessment. While it was a nice concept, the way you went about the comparison was sort of like trying to find out which car is faster, the Honda Civic on a Nascar track, or a Corvette on an icy road. Just not the best way to get a straight up comparison. Just my opinion, but the video was still very much appreciated.
I agree, he should of done everything through each level of amp. As someone with various guitars, I oddly like my Mexi stat tone over my collings CL with humbachers (similar in spec to a custom shop Gibson LP)
Ryan Lamp don’t need an essay mate 😂
0:59 i loved this sound
Mostly went as expected, cheap sound is workable but not great and then it moves up as you get more expensive, except for one exception.
I really did not like the sound of the Ghost Fret and the Kraken. I don't know if it's something to do with the tone that a Kraken can produce or whether Jared did something different with the settings but it sounded hollow and just bad. That's the sound I'd expect out of my semi-broken Fender Mustang digital amp, not a $1500 valve amp.
Chris Preece The Krakens are amazing. I was at a Dorje Concert a few weeks ago and Bea's sound was great. But yes, the sound in this video wasn't the best.
I have the cheapest set and listening to the difference actually makes me really sad
same my guitar and amp are like 200$ 😂😂
Can y’all shred?
ReN but they didn’t play through shit gear🤦♀️🤦♀️
ReN yes but they used what they (it probably wasn’t $200) but when I first started playing I had a cheap copy strat and a Marshall Lead 12 combo (solid state) and just threw a BOSS DS-1 and it was all about $250
@@sohibconner6926 i can relate
1000 was my fav
ya
Same
Holy shit that Chapman/Victory amp combo was soooooo bad lmao.
Cheapcrap/defeat squid was so bad lmfao
The Mustang GT100 sounded awesome for its price.
I really liked the chapman
The chapman is actually one of the best guitars under 1k, the amps bad.
@@yxz5198 The amp is appareantly really good, but the settings or playing were horrible.
It's like running a train, first or last, nothing in between.
Thomas Comptois uh it’s really not
Here are the tabs for the beginning
lowE 0
A 3-4
lowE *palm muted* 0-0
A 3*hammer on to*-4
lowE*palm muted*-0
D 3*pull off*
A 5
lowE 0
A3-4
lowE 3-4-5
*same thing but on the last part the lowE 3-4-5 with power chords and then the same thing but regular single notes lowE 3-4-5 and alternate 1 time each*
(Edit) sorry if this doesn't match up I tried my best
Adriana Perez can you it in tabs pls
Petrol Gaming it is in tabliture lol
FAILARTIST Gaming name of song?
FAILARTIST Gaming of course
FAILARTIST Gaming hMe of the song please
The mexi strat and the last one are the beat ones
This is how I would rank the sound
1: Music Man Majesty
2: Fender Mexi Strat
3: Squier Strat
4: Chapman Ghost
100% agreed IMO!
4: cheapman dead
Not sure if anyone has said the yet, but what would the different guitars sound like on the different amps?
And, I agree, the Chapmans are way overhyped... it almost sounded.. hollow.
2nd & 4th were the best imo
Same
True
The issue is that the cheap one was super dark, so it didn't have a lot of high-end issues you ran into like with the 2 options after that... Just EQing all the sting-y frequencies out of the middle 2 would've done A LOT.
Not to mention.. you still recorded all of this with a Shure sm7B and good mix... The expensive one wins BY FAR, but it's not a very fair comparison.
how did they win? They were tinny, no bass, no midrange sounded screechy as hell. ONE of the amps he dialed in with sweet distortion but other than that they sucked. Being a $$$ snob usually means youre preparing excuses for low self esteem.
That music man majesty along with the revv sounded beautifully full and crisp... Not sure how you don't hear that. I'm not a $$$ snob. Not even close. I prefer amp sims and drum samples over tens of thousands of drum room/amp heads/cabs/etc...
The 2 middle ones had VERY annoying frequencies that should've been EQd out like one would do on any professional recording...
The cheap one was way too dark to have audible annoyances like that.
The 170$ setup sounded like ass. There's no other way to put it.
The 2 "mid range priced" ones sounded like semi-ass.
The music man majesty sounded like it should sound.
The setup is for a metal sound not old hi-mids blues tone. The ibanez practice amp sounded more like a cheap copy of a simulated plexi superlead. The mustang gt100 captures the tone of a 1980s or early 90s thrash metal sound, which is more heavy bright sound. Not to mention it is almost like a cloned of a vintage thrash/death metal sound. You can distinguish it clearly with it's low mids and high freq range. But honestly, I'm disappointed with the victory's tone. But I believe the revv is suited for modern metal setup, somehow.
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I think the first few hundred dollars make the most difference as you get to the 1000$ and up range the difference gets smaller and smaller
1:25
When your amplifier is more expensive than your guitar
Shark Assassin and it still sounds the worst
I’d rather have a more expensive amp personally.
Shark Assassin I don't understand why that victory amp in this video is 1500 dollars?
The chapman ghost fret sounds like it's in a tunnel.
Shark Assassin lel
$1000 was the best
You should've mixed it up and thrown the cheap guitar on a nice cabinet ... and shown the difference of a expensive guitar on the practice amp! Either way great video!! Shreddin!!
That $1000 setup is so nice
I love the sound of the squier's "grit" in the video.
The best are the cheapest and the most expensive.
agreed
Alba my opinion as well. With the majesty at the top
Would have to agree
Agreed.
Yes
even the Mexican strat sounded better than the ghost fret
Daquirtle - Gaming, electronics and more! Pretty sure the shit sound was the amp
But the ghost fret sounded great in "if twenty one pilots was metal" video🤔🤔🤔
I would love my fender to sound like that...
Pretty sure he fucked up the EQ on that amp. The guitar has humbuckers and good ones at that, and the amps sound incredible, so I blame Jared for having it totally wrong.
He might have had everything set to flat with no eq at all.
Daquirtle - Gaming, electronics and more! I didn't know Jared could butcher something so bad. Other than the comment towards music is win
This video taught me that I don’t need a new guitar I can just use my squire forever
pink strat was the best, rofl\
Dimon Tryhard I have the same one haha
Dimon Tryhard yep same here. Nothing worse than chucking too much money out of the window for worse sound ...
OMG That Revv Generator sounded immense.
YES it does!
My fav too !
If I was gonna dish out the money that thing costs, I'd buy a Marshall tube half stack.
Just came back from Guitar Center today, got myself the same exact squire! Always wanted an electric guitar, but never bought one because of the price. I never knew cheap could sound so fucking good relative to the price!!
When you go to a guitar store but only know two Riffs
The 2º set sounds amazing bro , I fricking love it
It doesn't matter how cheap or expensive the gear is the only thing that matters is the skill
it aint that when u go to gig with a squire and the cheap af neck snaps off in mid riff tho
We just heard the opposite
Esscee L they aren't all bad guitars...
Esscee L Probably cuz you don't take good care of it??
Esscee L I gig with a Classic Vibe squier. Nothing's wrong with them
That $170 build somehow sounded more pleasant to my ears than the $1000 & $2250 ones. The real difference that is worth the money is the difference between the least and the best variants that were shown in this video. Kinda sums it up I'd say.
During the chugging you can hear a lot of feedback
I honestly really liked the raw tone of the Squire/Ibanez combo more than the others, for this riff at least. It just sounded punchy and not cleaned up, which is sometimes better for certain types of metal. I’m sure it sounds different when you’re not hearing it from a mic, but when in this video it sounded great imo.
Am I the only one who preffers the cheap one?? It's dirtier.
Headache I love it for some reason
I'd actually take the mexi Strat over the others
x18BritishBillx18 me too
Headache it's a killer punk sound
Headache the whole thing was rigged, the squier and strat had single coils, playing fucking djent
I like 2 and 4
Wow! Expensive crap might last longer....but...that is not $4500 worth of tone difference for initial cost..
You don't buy something expensive just for the "Tone", that shitty guitar might have ok tone but it's sustain might be complete shit and each note could be lasting for 7 seconds while on the expensive it can last quadriple that or more, also the build quality, and how comfortable it is plays a big role, lastly something expensive as a Majesty gives you a ton more options to experiment with, including an expensive amp.
Its a totally different tone. You can do a lot to modify the tone of a cheap guitar but you wont get the tone of a revv out of a 100 dolla amp, unless modelling.
its not all about tone, theres tuning stability, action, types of wood ect, tones not everything
in my hey-day of playing guitar back in 2014-2017 (Sadly I rarely play due to location noise complaints and lack of free time and motivation) My main rig was an LTD EC1000 (£850) and Peavey Vypyr 100W (£200). The sound was honestly fantastic, with the built in effects and the pedal accessory you could do a lot with it, I was able to easily gig in local bars and clubs with my aspiring band back in college. If there's one thing I learned over the years, price doesn't make you sound better only different. It's practice and hard work to get the sounds you want, a cheap beginner amp will do just fine at home, and an intermediate one will easily cover small local venues or practice rooms with a group. You never need to break the bank when you want to upgrade your sound through equipment try everything, Try guitars for tone and comfortability, style always comes last. Amps are trial and error, don't judge by brand you might be in a death metal band and find out that some old marshal amp from 2002 has the perfect mix of highs and lows for you.
Why did the cheap one sound better than the chapman?
Flip Docter the EQing
close micing helps us all ignore very real differences in actual sound. You'd notice more difference in comparison done on a room mic with nearly identical moderately loud volume similar to live or recording setups. That said different setups will pass in different circumstances. I can't expect the cheapest to hold up next to any kind of drumming or band situation because the speaker is like 5 inches and the amp is like 9.024369 watts lol. But I can overpower any drummer with the last one, possssibly the last two. Those things matter. Long story short context is king and it is possible a teeny weeny setup can sound comparable to a much more powerful and pricey one if the recording setup is done well.
@@morganthem yes true. This small amp would'nt be sufficient to overpower acoustic drums. However, nowdays with concerts etc. They will mic up the drums and amp so "overpowering" the drums really doesn't matter here. I think it's the mic setup and EQ'ing that makes the differents.
you should do a video where you use and expensive guitar with a cheap amp and the opposite etc.
The distortion is better in a 100 dollars guitar
Pekie Walkthrough ikr
Ik
Yeah true
Pekie Walkthrough guitars don’t have distortions...
Si hai ragione
You can clearly hear how strong that majesty sounds
1rst one and the 4th one were the best
Same
For me the first 1 wasn't great, 2nd was decent, but third was worst than second. But 4 is the best.
Warframe Crunch yeah
Badass Bassist first one is good
I agree
The chap man ghost fret sounds like it's in a tunnel
Joey fordf150s its the amp
He cofigured so bad , the victory kraken sounds so good
probably the mic placement too.
It's sounds like the ghost of a kraken
He EQ'd that kraken so bad, it has like no bass, then some mids, and all treble.
I thought the cheap one sounds the best.
Aaron 409 agreed
Aaron 409 I actually own that guitar, and with a sexier amp, you can get her sounding hella better than what you just heard.
The squier sounded the best to me.
I prefer the second
MetalWay it's probably cause I'm a huge fender guy but I agree
.....shit Im poor
Can't even afford the $170 ;_;
Curv 0987 boi i have chinese bullet strat and fender mustang 2
w o o k a s h lol if it plays i will work
w o o k a s h me too ahahah
I've got a Mesa full stack, a Roland jc120, and an esp snakebtye.
Just kidding. I've got an eiphone goth explorer, and a line6 spider IV (Which is straight ass) I'm saving up for a blackstar ht club 40
Mexican strat and the fender amp were the best
Yea
Ngl I love the pink squier
You cannot say it`s better or worse, it`s just different =)
finally someone gets it!!!
My thoughts exactly!! Its just opinion!
precisely!
different sound different purpose.
Not at all, the last set, the most expensive, has clearly the most clean and rounded sound. It is better than the other three.
The Ibanez practice and Squier were actually my favorite until I heard the last one
Pink strat for the win! 👌
Yeah right....its music ...and should not be judge by eyes but by ears
I agree
And pink brats loose
Johnny Walker I have. Blue strat
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