The Italians are fine engineers, they put together one great fighter there! The Germans held the Macchi in high regard, it had one serious flaw though, like the Spitfire it was complex and very time consuming to build, not ideal for war production, in fact it took marginally longer than the Spitfire to build, but like the Spitfire....wow what a 'kick ass' warplane!
love this video... italian planes most of the time are not take into regard by people, but they were really good designs, too few built and more over new ones destroyed after the war... Re2005, G-55, C206/207, G-56, Re2006
MOLTO BELLI!! Like other HAND-BUILT ITALIAN works of INDUSTRIAL ART and SCIENCE; such as the ITALIAN FLEET at the BATTLE OF SORRENTO, other WW2 ITALIAN TOP GRADE FIGHTERS and HAND-BUILT ITALIAN SUPERCARS!! Of course, they're not alone in these kinds of manufacturing and DESIGN but they have a TRADITION OF QUALITY and PERSONAL PRIDE in their FINAL PRODUCT that is VERY GRATIFYING for BOTH THEM AND THOSE WHO USE THEIR WORKS!! Only question is did they want a PLEXIGLASS BUBBLE CANOPY(like a later P-51 or P-47) and did they have an ARMORED PLATE BEHIND THE PILOT?? Those both would CONTRIBUTE TO PILOT SAFETY and SURVIVABILITY!!
To offset engine torque at various speeds, the Macchi fighters had a left wing six inches longer than the right wing. This was in lieu of rudder and aileron flaps that could be controlled by the pilot. It made for interesting low-speed handling (landing speeds, for instance) according to some sources.
'Off the record' a great new book about the C.200, C.202 & C.205 will be launched in the very near future. Enthusiasts of these remarkable range of Italian fighters should be delighted as I was with the material covered.
I do have an Osprey book about the Italian Aces or squadrons in WW2. Plus I'll be getting a couple duel books in the future. Gladiator vs Falco and C.202 vs Spitfire Mk5. Plus I do have an Osprey book about the Arab-Israeli war too.
The Italians used a unique solution to compensate for the high torque of the DB 605 engine - per my reading they made the wing on the rotation side 8” longer that the other. If any other aircraft is designed that way I’ve never encountered it….
RE 2005 used a fraction of rudder and a fraction of elevators that were able to move indipendently, to compensate the torque effect. the engine infact was perfectly inline with the fuselage - a way to avoid the torque effect is inclining the angle of the enging shaft a few degrees toward right
If they had built and deployed it in any large numbers, it could have been a game-changer. Best thing about a Veltro is the way you can just stick it to the ceiling...
I wonder how survivable these "complex" Italian fighters were in absorbing punishing damage that could take down many other types. I notice it has a liquid cooled engine... hmmm. Any protective armor? Self-sealing fuel tanks? Thinking of Grumman "Iron Works", Vought's Corsair and of course, Republic's great war horse, the P-47. Bottom line for me however is, the quality of training and experience of the human pilot being almost always the decisive factor.
Great Video .... Does that Replica Fly@ 54 seconds in ....? Is the One Taxiing with the guy walking alongside It @ 28 seconds IN with hearing protection a flyer as well? What a beautiful airplane with curvaceous and FLOWING LINE'S........!!~~ I'd heard a few year's ago.... A Reggiani Saggitorio was fished out of the sea in Italy and is being restored to a static display exhibit.. I'm... also hearing of a Fiat Centurio.is on display @ Vigna de Ville Aviation Museum. Keep up the Good work ..... !!~~ Steve
+@steveanderson9718 The Italians had a flyable C.205 for a while in the 1980s I think. It has been permanently retired. I believe there is a Fiat G.55 under rebuild to fly for a collector.
This is the plane the Italians should have focused all their industrial capacity on. Not that they had any real industrial capacity to begin with, but the G55 and Re.2005 , as capable as they were , would have taken too many resources not to mention the manpower hours needed to produce them. The Mc205 could have incrementally been improved in the same manner the Spitfire was. Clicked and subscribed , love your content ……. but I’ll take a hard pass on Kiss !
The Fiat G.55 and the penultimate G.56 were the superior aircraft. Another honorable mention is the Reggiane Re.2005 which was the most maneuverable of the bunch, having a wing design very similar to the Spitfire's elliptical wing.
The semi elliptical wing of the Reggiane 2005 was very similar to that of the P-47 Thunderbolt, being both descendants of the Seversky P-35. If you look at the three view of the two aircrafts you can see the lineage. One of the two evolutive lines led to a super-sleek, fast and agile inline-engined fighter, the other to the radial-engined behemoth with almost double the mass.
consider MC205 in southern Italy and Africa was able to shoot down a lot of Spifires being more agile to maneuver. G55 was very effective against bombers
Italian fighters did not use the later DB 605 variants like those in Bf 109G-10 and K. I don't think they build any significant number of water-methanol injected variants. That means their best ones were basically German engines from 1942.
It was very dangerous for every allied fighter, in particular Lighting e Thunderbolt. Visconti, an Italian axe, scored many successes against USA bombers.
Considering that more Buchons are now being re-engined with Daimler Benz engines... why not save one of them engines to build a replica Folgore or Veltro.
They wanted to manufacture the FIAT G.55, not the Macchi C.205. In reality they considered to buy "blank" fuselages from italy, and fit their cockpits, instruments and DB603 engines in them.
@@neutronalchemist3241yes you are right, they finished two prototypes with DB 603 A engines witch were tested as G56 with very promising results. At that time in 1943 Germany had no production fighter witch could reach G56 performance. In spring of 43 they had just canceled FW 190 B(with DB603) serial production. With was in some points better than G 56 but the pruduction of G56 would have saved one year development time for a new fighter. That exactly was happening the FW 190 D comes about 1 year later ....too late.
@@aurosan750AU Due to the fact that the Bf109 airframe couldn't be adapted to install a DB603, and the Germans didn't want to stop production for retooling, that engine had been severely under-used in respect to its potential.
With all the right conditions it was a solid aircraft but while successful the success with this aircraft may be a bit overstated. I found at least 2 aerial fights where Italian claims of downed Allied aircraft were dismissed (Battle of Pantelleria and Battle of Capo Pula), based on this some C.205 pilot claims may also be suspect. At the time of the Armistice the Regia Aeronautica had received 177 C.205’s however only 66 were still usable. In addition the Regia Aeronautica also complained of overheating while climbing with the 205N (also noted by the Germans). By May 1944 there were 262 built and later used between Italy, Germany, Egypt, and Croatia. Despite the glowing reviews the C.205 had stopped service in May 1945 and the rebuilding Italian Air Force replaced them with surplus Spitfires. Finally the C.205 did not make the list of the top 8 WWll fighter aircraft with the best kill/loss ratio. [Oddly enough the #1 aircraft for kill/loss ratio was the generally despised USA F2A Brewster Buffalo, mainly due to the Finnish Air Force use against the Soviet Union, in the Pacific Theatre the F2A was an abject disaster).
Every party overclaimed heavily in WWII. IE the claims of the 325th Fighter Group (the "Checkertail Clan") over Sardinia in spring 1943 were pure science fiction. They claimed more Bf109 in a single mission than the ones capable to fly in the entire island.
The Mc205 wasnt great. It was good but inferior to the G.55 and the Re.2005. However it was easier to mass produce than these. It entered service too late though. A year earlier it might have been considered a great plane compared to the allied aircrafts available in that theater of operations.
All three were great but built in extremely low numbers. Maybe the Reggiane Re.2005 was the best and most complex and expensive too. The Macchi C.205 was not that effective at the heavy bombers' altitude, and the best all around (complexity, price, performance) was the Fiat G.55. But all were actually much complex than for example a Bf-109 or even a Fw-190.
@@Cuccos19 Not than the FW190. As ease of production, the Bf109 was in a league of its own. The G.55 was on par with the Fw190 and the US fighters, and better than the Spitfire, whose production time was comparable with the Macchi C.201 / C.205.
Hardly a copy of the ugly BF109. This was a thoroughbred, just like the FiatG55/56 and the incomparable Reggiane Re2005. Now that was a beautiful aircraft.
Spit ix at 440 mph? LOL! It was 404 mph, and the P-51D entered in line in late 1944. This in early 1943. For 1944 it should have been introduced the "6 series" line of fighters, powered by a licence produced DB603 engine. The only one that flew and was tested, the FIAT G.56, having about the same power than the P-51D, obtained a top speed of 426 MPH, so 14 MPH slower than he P-51D. Nothing to write home about, considering the G.56 had a standard five-digit NACA airfoil, good also for aerobatics, while the P-51 had a pretended laminar flow wing, that increased speed, but also the turn radius.
Italian fighter planes were generally under powered and light machine guns..the later versions were of higher hp and upgunned. But like every other axis country it was too little too late. It would be unlikely that an Italian fighter would be able to shoot down a Thunderbolt or a P-38
Many thunderbolts and P-38 had been shot down by Italian fighters. IE on 19 Jul. 1943, Sgt. Luigi Gorrini, on a C.205, shot down a B-24, and a P-38 in the same mission. However, it's a common mistake to compare Italian fighters of 1940-1942 with US fighters of 1944-1945. In 1943 Thunderbolts were not that common, and the first really good P-38, the "H" entred in line only in May 1943 The most commonly used US fighter in Europe in mid 1943 still was the P40.
Actually, there was a story once about an Italian pilot who flew a captured P-38...he would use it to engage U.S. bombers and fighters...shot down several, I think. Been years since I read the story, maybe someone else has more info on this...
get over it: the Italian 5 series fighters were capable of shooting down the P47, the P38, the Spitfire and even the Mustang (which was the fighter most feared by the pilots of the Regia Aeronautica). The first encounter between the 205 and the Mustangs in the skies of Italy was in favor of the mustang, with three shootdowns of 205, but in a second dogfight the 205 won and shot down 2 P51s in the skies of northern Italy.
@@dyer2cycle The captured P38 had a compass failure and landed at an Italian airport thinking it was in France. Having removed the American insignia and placed that of the Regia Aeronautica, it fought against the American bomber formations, causing considerable damage to them. The fighter survived the barrage of American machine gunners several times, but what the opponents' bullets failed to do, was easily achieved by the poor quality of the Italian aviation gasoline, which irreparably damaged the tanks of the P38, making it unusable
Reliability issues at the time when they might have played a significant role - and insignificant numbers when they had improved reliability with a better (German) engine.
Sieht aus wie eine Mischung zwischen Hawker Hurrikan, und Bf ME 109,und die Leistung war nur mit dem deutschen Daimler Benz Motor im akzeptablen Bereich, ansonsten war es eine Lame Ente.
One of the most beautiful aeroplanes ever built
Molto bello , ma il reggiane re 2005 era molto più bello !💓
@@falierofraschetti216 My Italian is non existent, but Bello seems to be exactly how I feel about the Reggiane.
Call me crazy but it’s the p47 or the fw190 for me
@@DM-zs8go You are Crazy LOL. But then such is life, Aviators re all crazies.
Not bad, but Re.2005 looks better.
日本からこんにちは。
イタリア軍用機の解説動画が少なかったのでこの動画は楽しく拝見しました。
動画UPありがとうございます。
Another timeless work of Italian genius and art. Bravo!
and German engine
caproni used to say "if it's beautiful, it flies well" and i think he was right.
The Italians are fine engineers, they put together one great fighter there! The Germans held the Macchi in high regard, it had one serious flaw though, like the Spitfire it was complex and very time consuming to build, not ideal for war production, in fact it took marginally longer than the Spitfire to build, but like the Spitfire....wow what a 'kick ass' warplane!
my Spaghetti go-to-killer-plane in WAR THUNDER....climb high then BnZ with my 20mm......lol
Really a great looking plane, when it looks right, it usually is right.
Советские и французские истребители выглядели очень красивыми, но хороших среди них не было
And like the Spitfire,it’s a beautiful aircraft
RE 2005 is more similar to spitfire which was better equipped with cannons but less agile
love this video... italian planes most of the time are not take into regard by people, but they were really good designs, too few built and more over new ones destroyed after the war... Re2005, G-55, C206/207, G-56, Re2006
The small amount built made it insignificant in whole picture. Absolute beauty&beast as a fighter plane, though..
One of the most beautiful Italian aircraft together with the Fiat G 55 and the Reggiane RE 2005
MOLTO BELLI!! Like other HAND-BUILT ITALIAN works of INDUSTRIAL ART and SCIENCE; such as the ITALIAN FLEET at the BATTLE OF SORRENTO, other WW2 ITALIAN TOP GRADE FIGHTERS and HAND-BUILT ITALIAN SUPERCARS!! Of course,
they're not alone in these kinds of manufacturing and DESIGN
but they have a TRADITION OF QUALITY and PERSONAL PRIDE in their FINAL PRODUCT that is VERY GRATIFYING for BOTH THEM AND THOSE WHO USE THEIR WORKS!! Only question is did they want a PLEXIGLASS BUBBLE CANOPY(like a later P-51 or P-47) and did they have an ARMORED PLATE BEHIND THE PILOT?? Those both would CONTRIBUTE TO PILOT SAFETY and SURVIVABILITY!!
To offset engine torque at various speeds, the Macchi fighters had a left wing six inches longer than the right wing. This was in lieu of rudder and aileron flaps that could be controlled by the pilot. It made for interesting low-speed handling (landing speeds, for instance) according to some sources.
I read it was 8”….
That a beautiful planes !! Wonderful !!
fantastic
Just a suggestion: it's called FOlgore with the accented first "O" of the word, not the second one.
Fascinating information. I wasn't aware of the comparison of this Italian fighter and the allied contemporaries. Thanks.
The Italians made some outstanding airplanes, even today. They were also wonderfull aviators.🛩🛫🛬🪂✈
Great video. Under appreciated plane. Thanks for posting.
C'è un esemplare al museo di Vigna di Valle, vicino a Roma, è stupendo!!!
I think number one... its looks.
If it were ugly - few would remember it.
Being it's beautiful...it's timeless.
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@@einundsiebenziger5488 Right...thank you.
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'Off the record' a great new book about the C.200, C.202 & C.205 will be launched in the very near future. Enthusiasts of these remarkable range of Italian fighters should be delighted as I was with the material covered.
I do have an Osprey book about the Italian Aces or squadrons in WW2. Plus I'll be getting a couple duel books in the future. Gladiator vs Falco and C.202 vs Spitfire Mk5. Plus I do have an Osprey book about the Arab-Israeli war too.
Do they make a 1/32 scale model kit ? Of this fighter ?
The Italians used a unique solution to compensate for the high torque of the DB 605 engine - per my reading they made the wing on the rotation side 8” longer that the other.
If any other aircraft is designed that way I’ve never encountered it….
RE 2005 used a fraction of rudder and a fraction of elevators that were able to move indipendently, to compensate the torque effect. the engine infact was perfectly inline with the fuselage - a way to avoid the torque effect is inclining the angle of the enging shaft a few degrees toward right
@@blackimp4987 Interesting. Thanks...
Considering the political and industrial environment it is an Italian achievement. The G.55 Centauro wasn't shabby either.
the misfortuned but beautiful one was RE 2005.
If they had built and deployed it in any large numbers, it could have been a game-changer. Best thing about a Veltro is the way you can just stick it to the ceiling...
Why didn't they fit it with a bubble canopy!?
Looks like a Hurricane, ME-109 and Gloster Glad had a kid together.
Macchi C.200 and Me-109 had a kid...
I wonder how survivable these "complex" Italian fighters were in absorbing punishing damage that could take down many other types. I notice it has a liquid cooled engine... hmmm. Any protective armor? Self-sealing fuel tanks?
Thinking of Grumman "Iron Works", Vought's Corsair and of course, Republic's great war horse, the P-47.
Bottom line for me however is, the quality of training and experience of the human pilot being almost always the decisive factor.
Great presentation. 👍🏻
Camo is awsome!
Great Video .... Does that Replica Fly@ 54 seconds in ....? Is the One Taxiing with the guy walking alongside It @ 28 seconds IN with hearing protection a flyer as well?
What a beautiful airplane with curvaceous and FLOWING LINE'S........!!~~
I'd heard a few year's ago.... A Reggiani Saggitorio was fished out of the sea in Italy and is being restored to a static display exhibit..
I'm... also hearing of a Fiat Centurio.is on display @ Vigna de Ville Aviation Museum.
Keep up the Good work ..... !!~~ Steve
+@steveanderson9718 The Italians had a flyable C.205 for a while in the 1980s I think. It has been permanently retired. I believe there is a Fiat G.55 under rebuild to fly for a collector.
Italian ? Food ! Looks good 👍
nice plane
This is the plane the Italians should have focused all their industrial capacity on.
Not that they had any real industrial capacity to begin with, but the G55 and Re.2005 , as capable as they were , would have taken too many resources not to mention the manpower hours needed to produce them.
The Mc205 could have incrementally been improved in the same manner the Spitfire was.
Clicked and subscribed , love your content ……. but I’ll take a hard pass on Kiss !
The big difference with this plane is the fitting of the DB 601 inline motors The one thing the Italians could not built is a decent aero engine
They could during the Schneider trophy air races in the 30s apparently.....
Les Griffiths
It's DB605, and it was licence built in Italy, by FIAT.
@@lesgriffiths8523 They didn't need them to be reliable/efficient for races, just pure power.
Italian military strategists made a big mistake before WW2: imposing the construction of radial engines, which were aerodynamically inefficient

DB601 was also license built in Japan by Kawasaki and Aichi..Kawasaki Ki61 used them, another fine looking DB powered fighter...@@neutronalchemist3241
It reminds me of a Me-109/Hurricane hybrid.
Good call! Can’t unsee it now!😊
Actually, it is more like a Macchi C.200 Saetta and Me-109 Hybrid....
@@dyer2cycle yeah,its heavily based on the 'schmitt
But no video with engine noise
The Fiat G.55 and the penultimate G.56 were the superior aircraft. Another honorable mention is the Reggiane Re.2005 which was the most maneuverable of the bunch, having a wing design very similar to the Spitfire's elliptical wing.
The semi elliptical wing of the Reggiane 2005 was very similar to that of the P-47 Thunderbolt, being both descendants of the Seversky P-35. If you look at the three view of the two aircrafts you can see the lineage. One of the two evolutive lines led to a super-sleek, fast and agile inline-engined fighter, the other to the radial-engined behemoth with almost double the mass.
consider MC205 in southern Italy and Africa was able to shoot down a lot of Spifires being more agile to maneuver. G55 was very effective against bombers
Did the Italian DB605 ever get the high (1.8) 'ata' rating of the late 109Gs & Ks?
No
Italian fighters did not use the later DB 605 variants like those in Bf 109G-10 and K. I don't think they build any significant number of water-methanol injected variants. That means their best ones were basically German engines from 1942.
It was very dangerous for every allied fighter, in particular Lighting e Thunderbolt. Visconti, an Italian axe, scored many successes against USA bombers.
... Italian ace*
Hardly many!
Funny enough Folgore in Italian means lighting, so it was a Lighting Vs. Lighting, eventually they named the new c205 Velcro (Greyhound)
Germany wanted to manufacture this fighter.
they crunched the numbers and was decided that would cost to much to produce.
Considering that more Buchons are now being re-engined with Daimler Benz engines... why not save one of them engines to build a replica Folgore or Veltro.
They wanted to manufacture the FIAT G.55, not the Macchi C.205.
In reality they considered to buy "blank" fuselages from italy, and fit their cockpits, instruments and DB603 engines in them.
@@classicreviews96180or perhaps a KI 61 too, it is also an elegant and capable fighter.
They both easier to fly than the Me 109
@@neutronalchemist3241yes you are right, they finished two prototypes with DB 603 A engines witch were tested as G56 with very promising results.
At that time in 1943 Germany had no production fighter witch could reach G56 performance. In spring of 43 they had just canceled FW 190 B(with DB603) serial production. With was in some points better than G 56 but the pruduction of G56 would have saved one year development time for a new fighter.
That exactly was happening the FW 190 D comes about 1 year later ....too late.
@@aurosan750AU Due to the fact that the Bf109 airframe couldn't be adapted to install a DB603, and the Germans didn't want to stop production for retooling, that engine had been severely under-used in respect to its potential.
Generally considered to be the best Italian fighter aircraft of WW II. It had a top speed equal to that of the P-51 Mustang.
Their subs were pretty good as well.
Looks fast parked.
With all the right conditions it was a solid aircraft but while successful the success with this aircraft may be a bit overstated. I found at least 2 aerial fights where Italian claims of downed Allied aircraft were dismissed (Battle of Pantelleria and Battle of Capo Pula), based on this some C.205 pilot claims may also be suspect. At the time of the Armistice the Regia Aeronautica had received 177 C.205’s however only 66 were still usable. In addition the Regia Aeronautica also complained of overheating while climbing with the 205N (also noted by the Germans). By May 1944 there were 262 built and later used between Italy, Germany, Egypt, and Croatia. Despite the glowing reviews the C.205 had stopped service in May 1945 and the rebuilding Italian Air Force replaced them with surplus Spitfires. Finally the C.205 did not make the list of the top 8 WWll fighter aircraft with the best kill/loss ratio. [Oddly enough the #1 aircraft for kill/loss ratio was the generally despised USA F2A Brewster Buffalo, mainly due to the Finnish Air Force use against the Soviet Union, in the Pacific Theatre the F2A was an abject disaster).
Every party overclaimed heavily in WWII.
IE the claims of the 325th Fighter Group (the "Checkertail Clan") over Sardinia in spring 1943 were pure science fiction. They claimed more Bf109 in a single mission than the ones capable to fly in the entire island.
I meant to say my model kits have liquid cooled engines... they were great dog fighters....
Truly a beautiful and wonderful design....I have plastic kits of ww2 Italian liquid cooled engines
The Italians are second to no one in engineering and design, sadly their politics ruin it for them.
There’s always the food and wine.
@@jamesdellaneve9005 lol, true x
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The Mc205 wasnt great. It was good but inferior to the G.55 and the Re.2005. However it was easier to mass produce than these. It entered service too late though. A year earlier it might have been considered a great plane compared to the allied aircrafts available in that theater of operations.
the nose was way to long for a fighter in a gun age
Fiat G55 was even better..
g55 seems the better overall
All three were great but built in extremely low numbers. Maybe the Reggiane Re.2005 was the best and most complex and expensive too. The Macchi C.205 was not that effective at the heavy bombers' altitude, and the best all around (complexity, price, performance) was the Fiat G.55. But all were actually much complex than for example a Bf-109 or even a Fw-190.
@@Cuccos19 Not than the FW190. As ease of production, the Bf109 was in a league of its own. The G.55 was on par with the Fw190 and the US fighters, and better than the Spitfire, whose production time was comparable with the Macchi C.201 / C.205.
Especially at altitude.
@@neutronalchemist3241 exactly, there's a bound to low complexity without hamper performance. even german realize that the g55 hit that sweet spot
Hardly a copy of the ugly BF109. This was a thoroughbred, just like the FiatG55/56 and the incomparable Reggiane Re2005. Now that was a beautiful aircraft.
A bit harsh to call the BF 109 ugly. Great looking fighter.
At 400 MPH, the aircraft was at least 40 MPH slower than the P-51D and the Spitfire Mk IX and would never be available in similar numbers.
Spit ix at 440 mph? LOL!
It was 404 mph, and the P-51D entered in line in late 1944. This in early 1943.
For 1944 it should have been introduced the "6 series" line of fighters, powered by a licence produced DB603 engine.
The only one that flew and was tested, the FIAT G.56, having about the same power than the P-51D, obtained a top speed of 426 MPH, so 14 MPH slower than he P-51D. Nothing to write home about, considering the G.56 had a standard five-digit NACA airfoil, good also for aerobatics, while the P-51 had a pretended laminar flow wing, that increased speed, but also the turn radius.
Italian fighter planes were generally under powered and light machine guns..the later versions were of higher hp and upgunned. But like every other axis country it was too little too late. It would be unlikely that an Italian fighter would be able to shoot down a Thunderbolt or a P-38
Many thunderbolts and P-38 had been shot down by Italian fighters. IE on 19 Jul. 1943, Sgt. Luigi Gorrini, on a C.205, shot down a B-24, and a P-38 in the same mission.
However, it's a common mistake to compare Italian fighters of 1940-1942 with US fighters of 1944-1945. In 1943 Thunderbolts were not that common, and the first really good P-38, the "H" entred in line only in May 1943 The most commonly used US fighter in Europe in mid 1943 still was the P40.
Actually, there was a story once about an Italian pilot who flew a captured P-38...he would use it to engage U.S. bombers and fighters...shot down several, I think. Been years since I read the story, maybe someone else has more info on this...
get over it: the Italian 5 series fighters were capable of shooting down the P47, the P38, the Spitfire and even the Mustang (which was the fighter most feared by the pilots of the Regia Aeronautica). The first encounter between the 205 and the Mustangs in the skies of Italy was in favor of the mustang, with three shootdowns of 205, but in a second dogfight the 205 won and shot down 2 P51s in the skies of northern Italy.
@@dyer2cycle The captured P38 had a compass failure and landed at an Italian airport thinking it was in France. Having removed the American insignia and placed that of the Regia Aeronautica, it fought against the American bomber formations, causing considerable damage to them. The fighter survived the barrage of American machine gunners several times, but what the opponents' bullets failed to do, was easily achieved by the poor quality of the Italian aviation gasoline, which irreparably damaged the tanks of the P38, making it unusable
Reliability issues at the time when they might have played a significant role - and insignificant numbers when they had improved reliability with a better (German) engine.
But poor soldiers
Sieht aus wie eine Mischung zwischen Hawker Hurrikan, und Bf ME 109,und die Leistung war nur mit dem deutschen Daimler Benz Motor im akzeptablen Bereich, ansonsten war es eine Lame Ente.
Vs. a Mustang D? Good luck. The most effort the WAPS had was in Aircraft and Warships. As Usual the numbers make the sauce Senor.
They look like a bf109.😂
With a better landing gear and cockpit canopy.
@@ngauruhoezodiac3143 more Ferrari like.🤩
It was good but it wasn't great. Basically a Bf 109 eventhough it was not a direct copy.
Bf109 copy
Absolutely no
Not true at all.
True
@@sandrocesarini5684it had a German engine same as 109
@@booster5329109 is better too
But since they switched sides, they just shot at each other….