Tudor Oyster From the 1950s Needs a Full Vintage Watch Restoration
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- Marshall restores a vintage Tudor Oyster Prince 34 watch from the 1950s! Tudor is a sub-brand of Rolex, and it often has similar quality for a cheaper price, but it's also been around for a long time and has quite a pedigree itself! This watch features an early automatic rotor winding system, and was listed as "ticking" on the eBay auction.
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I hope you enjoy this one! These Tudors are really nice, especially for the money. They aren't quite on Rolex level (even for the time) but they are close. Full restorations like these are always the most challenging but also the most rewarding :) Also a reminder, I won't ask you for your watches, so if someone is reaching out to you here in the comments, via email, or on Instagram, it's likely a scammer.
I love watching your videos before I go to sleep. Your voice is fantastic and it's soothing to watch the process happen & learn something along the way. Best wishes
What i am alwasy thinking is, when 600€ is a bargain for a watch like this, what would be the normal price or a bad deal. Just asking, i restored now a few watches om my own as a hobbyist(Certina, Junghans, Enicar... ) and would like to step the category a bit up 😅.
Lovely video - @5:55 - is the screwdriver magnetism a problem in watchmaking and if so, how do you remove it
@@jonor68 even al litte bit of magnetism near an unshielded movement can influence it or even magnetize it itself. So, better to not fiddle around with magnets near your hairspring 😌
@@jonor68 you can do it like he did, with a demagnetizer. They are fairly cheap to get, or build your own with an Raspberry Pi and and a coil.
Am I a watch ethusiast? No. Do I wear repair watch? No. Do I even wear watch? No. Did I watch this video in its entirety? Yes, absolutely.
That's me!
Every single part of this video was interesting and I know that in no way could I ever believe I had the skill or patience to do this
Same. My most complicated looking watch is $15 but you can also see thru clear plastic on both sides and look thru gaps inside and see parts of the gears turn. And I love watching these videos bc they help me learn more about how watches work.
Now, go out and buy a Rolex!
when I was a teenager I worked up stairs from a watch repairer. A lovely old man from Eastern Europe. I visited him one day to take a clients watch for repair and there were coins scattered on the floor. I stooped to pick them
up for him and he excitedly stopped me and said they were for luck and to bring prosperity. It was a magical part of my life and my favourite job. I would sometimes watch him work while I waited and it was hard to see how the hell he knew where everything went in each watch. He will have passed away now but his memory lives on in others that he inspired and helped. As will yours many years from now people will be telling your story like showing me the initials of all who had worked on a particular watch scribed on the inside cover and the dates hidden away. Like a roofer I shared a week with would write his name and the date on one slate and hide it away for later discovery 😊 Thank you for sharing.
Love that bubble crystal with the patina watch face. Classic!
Hey Marshall, long time watcher first time commenter. I'm having a lot of fun dipping my toes into the hobby with the Watchmaking Starter Box and tinkering on the Seagull movement. Just wanting to pass along the idea of doing a video on doing a tear down of the Seagull movement from the kit using only the tools in the kit, doing an in-depth description of each part and what purpose it has within the movement, and including a link or qr code within that purchase as a follow along. I think it'd be a nice addition to a great kit.
Good suggestion, and just what I've been thinking about. If there was such a video for the practice movement, teardown, lubrication and re-assembly, I'd be much more likely to dive in.
I was going to comment with exactly this suggestion! It would be so helpful, and would definitely nudge me along to that Starter Box purchase...! 😉 As the proud new owner of a Breitling Avenger, I've become a little obsessed with the workings of mechanical movements, and I'm itching to delve into it! 🙏🏻
That is a good idea. A while back I had thought about giving it a try but decided not since I tend to go all out when I start a new hobby buying all the best equipment....which is fine if you stick with it. I have probably 20K worth of music making equipment that I do not really use much anymore, as just one example. So seeing what you can do with just the equipment in one of the kits, which are reasonably priced based on my own comparison searches, might help me and others from spending money needlessly before we know if it's something we plan to stick with. So yeah....I concur !!!
I think it's best for his channel to get a brand deal before he starts freely advertising any products like that. And even then, I wouldn't want this creator to sell his soul for something if he isn't fully enthusiastic about it. He should be able to speak his mind freely if he has an issue with a product. And it's a Catch 22 when you have to decide if you should spend money on something if you don't even know if you like it. I think he's happy doing what he's doing now, and he seems to have a big enough clientele that he doesn't need the extra money. Besides he already advertises himself for his Patreon and his own website. I don't think it's necessary for him to become a review channel. Restoration and commission projects seem to keep him satisfied, he's definitely getting enough views online doing this.
Me and a friend of mine actually tried watchmaking, got 3 pocket watches for 30 bucks. We tore the non running Junghans apart with tools for glasses , replaced the hair spring with one from a no name watch because somebody broke the original one, cleaned everything with brakeclean and I got it back together thanks to the knowledge I gained through watching your videos . It actually ran, badly , but it ran! Got sold to a watchmaker apprentice who fixed it right...
If I ever have the money and time to do this hobby right I will.
Hey Marshall, we love your vids. I actually have my wife and son watching along with me now. I never would have guessed your videos would turn into our family viewing. Thank you!. After many vids my wife asked me how often you replace the chemicals in your cleaning machine? She thinks it looks dirty. I said it's simply the color of the chemicals themselves. Please mention that topic in future videos. Love your stuff. Hope you keep on ticking!!!
Absolutely stunning! Great restoration, movement is gorgeous, and the case came out beautiful...one I would certainly love to own...amazing work as always 😊
This guy's like skillful watch repair ASMR 💯👍
I agree, that is a stunning restoration! Beautiful dial patina, goes with the shiny gold case just perfectly.
Just a joy to watch and listen to an intelligent human being narrating this video.
Of all the watches I've seen you repair/restore this is the one that really is just perfect to my eyes. And yeah, I know that I feel like there is a delicate balance between "patina" and "putrid" but I agree with you on this one. The dial with the fresh new outers looks stunning. Hell, I'd wear it with a smile and I'm not really a wrist watch sort of person!
And I totally agree with you on your message of "dive in, the water is fine". Too many folks are afraid to fail. But failure leads to learning. And few failures are total in any case. It just extends the "joy" of working on the repairs to get back to where one started. And those are lessons that are not soon forgotten.
Absolutely true!
Just don't start off with a movement you paid 1000s of $ for...
Great Video Mate, the Watch looks Beautiful. Loved watching the Nickel & Gold Plating Process
yeah the plating process alone was worth viewing this video.. wonder why he didn't buff the back out a bit while he was at it
Please do a wrist watch check and hopefully it is one of your restoration. I would love to see your working restoration at play. Thanks for all you do
Just beautiful !!!!!!!! Well done !!! Thanks
Another fantastic video, Marshall. One thing I really appreciate, is that you actually show your mistakes. Those of us just getting into this hobby, (for me, you are the reason I got started!) it’s a huge benefit. Keep up the good work!
Hey Marshall! I’ve wanted to get into this hobby for a long long time. I just never took the leap. After watching your vids, i’m taking the leap. Thank you for inspiring man!!
Thank you, Marshall! Watching your videos significantly lifts my mood.
thanks for posting right as im eating dinner
Very welcome 😀👍
Wonderful restoration! Yet another example of the problem with trying to get watches fixed/serviced. Such a shame that so many beautiful watches rot away in drawers - and so delightful to see you resurrect these beauties. So the question is, how do I find someone that can do this? I have a beautiful Polerouter that is screaming for a second life and I cannot find anybody to do it.
My wife gave me the starter kit with the ETA 6496 movement and tools. I also purchased a few other tools such as the hand levers, some of the light oils, an oiler and a movement holder. I purchased the oil because my research indicated that a lot of these movements are shipped dry and I wanted to be as through as I possibly could. To me the biggest issue is not the knowledge since I have watch so many of your videos I pretty much know the sequence of assembly and disassembly. The biggest issue for me is feel. There is no way to anticipate the "feel" you need for these tiny screws and parts. To that end I have been taking small steps removing and replacing certain components and not tackling the whole movement yet.
Really enjoyed video Thanks
hey marshall, in my opinion there is no such thing as an unnecessary tool. great video, as always. thanks!
Another Steller performance 👏 glad to see you got a more suitable file, I’m sure the you tube crowd approve 😂 nice work
At umm 33:29, the star spring, I think it has been swapped with the other star spring, and I think they are different and so that one is now a loose fit (PS I love your videos)
The 27 comments before this came in 37 minutes, so none of us have made it through the video yet. Looking forward to another beat up eBay find.
They might have done it now! (51min)
@@R_J_definitely have now lmao
Um Patreon, see it a week before
Or watch it at 2x speed
It's not a competition, ladies... 🤣🤣🤣
Hello Marshall another great episode❤❤❤❤❤
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Sir, Marshall,
...again, you have done a beautiful job to re-launch a wonderful watch .
The tudor looks great........many thanks for your excellent videos
Marshall, you are truly inspiring with you thorough deep attention to detail
I think you need to check those two spring clips. It looks like the bottom of the U shaped slot is not seating into the groove in the shaft. I noticed that the one had come loose during casing and you replaced it but it still looks not quite seated.
Hello Marshall, how would a person (like me, for example) show you a watch and see if you could or would like to restore it? I have an old Elgin pocket watch, not gold and I was always told it was just a "working mans" watch. It's been passed down through the family and now I'm the keeper. Oh, the crystal looks more like a windshield on a old car, it's so thick! Anyway, if you see this, I'd appreciate you letting me know and if any other followers of yours know anything about this process, I'd be very happy to hear from you as well! Thanks in advance.
I would like to see that too
If you visit his website that sells the tools he has a contact form on there that you can use.
Very pretty result. 😊
I love the way you manage to always state the explanations for the various steps in every video for those of us trying to learn this craft, but somehow manage to never be repetitive. It's almost as if you do commentary for a living or something...
He's an excellent narrator and story teller. You can find a lot of other watch making channels on TH-cam, but I've only seen maybe one other that comes close to being as interesting and well-narrated.
movement looks like from lemania
Excellent work, as always.
I wonder, why you get only so few likes under your videos?... You deserve more
Very nice watch restoration thanks
You talk about dropping things and beeing on all four with a flashlite on the floor.
That you have in common with model builders. We talk about the carpet-monster that lives in your carpet and eat your small parts that you dropped. Our parts ste selldom magnetic though. One trick we use is a vaccuum cleaner with the nozzle covered with a very fine cloth to find small things.
There is a point where the patina stops being aesthetically pleasing. For the most part I like it.
You may need to open that watch back up, at 33:25 you can see that one of the spring clips was installed upside down. It should have the 4 legs pointing down so it holds tension on the gearing.
Patina is just a polite word for “damage.” Patina is OK in moderation but I prefer nearly no damage. My preference is to have as little patina as possible while still being able to distinguish an older watch from a brand new one.
I’m 45 and I restore pre-war British cars for a living. The amount of technology in these cars is what fuels my passion to work on them. They are so much more involved than American made cars. Your channel peaks my interest. There is so much involved in being a watchmaker. I absolutely love it!
What make and model cars do you restore?
That is probably why the UK no longer has a proper car industry. The Mini, for example was complicated and expensive to manufacture. It shouldn't have been.
This was one of the prettiest watches you've restored! Wow this one is just gorgeous!
You’ve got all the toys!!!
I think ya can get new old stock mainsprings for a majority of these older watches ⌚️. That means they're still made to the original specs. That way, ya can perform 🎭 a total restoration of the watch, including the mainspring, without the watch losing 📉 value. Your friend, Jeff.
stunning
You know , I didn't realize how much of the general order of things I've absorbed from your videos until I watched this one. This was like examining the mechanical logical differences between French cars and everyone else's cars. Maybe I'm learning something...
Some watches should be handled as a pristine restoration, while others are better left as original as possible, and showing that beautiful wear! It’s much like cars-if there’s enough original paint left and it can be preserved- DO IT! If it’s a mess, and can be considered ‘valuable’, then restore it fully
Beautiful! I agree with you, Marshall. The juxtaposition of a "brand new" case against the patina on the dial looks so classy.
Ah well, Tudor was still a young company (albeit with a mighty backer) in the 50s so some questionable movement design decisions can be excused. Well done for fighting them through and ..what a beautiful dial!
Beautiful restoration! This past Christmas, I gifted my son my Omega Speedmaster Moon watch. I bought it way back in the late 1970's. He was really surprised.
What a wonderful gift with so much history!
Would love to see a rough cost before and after you work on the watches.
Would be cool seeing the value added by the restoration. Would also be cool to sell some of the watches too 😅
Yeah, saying something is a "good deal" is vague and subjective
Hey Marshall, btw. Can you make an “upgrading a cheap watch” video, I have not seen any videos like that anywhere I think it may be interesting
Again love your videos haha
I love your pitch about how the first step of getting good at a thing, at learning a thing, is sucking at a thing. It's great advice!
Tudor in former years filled the role Cellini did until recently. The often gold, dressier Rolex. Tudor Black Bay et al now occupy a position as a budget Rolex.
Hi Marshall. As always, I enjoyed watching this video and listening to your explanations. I have a question though: Why do the balance wheels always (?) have these little screws in the rim? I never saw you playing around with those. I can't imagine they are to balance the wheel (like on a car after replacing a tire). I can imagine that they are there to increase the moment of inertia a bit, but in that case a heavier rim is more simple to produce. So what remains is fine adjustment of the moment of inertia after a hairspring replacement. On the other hand, that can be achieved with only two screws (or just one, but that would throw off the static balance). Anyway, I am curious about the purpose of those screws.
12:47 "You have time on your side"... Watch pun. :)
Why do I keep watching this...lol
Love your videos. A relaxing way to end my day watching watches be repaired/serviced. On that note, your yoke spring was installed backward from how it was removed. Don't know if this is in error from the previous repair/service, it was just something I noticed while enjoying your video.
Timestamp of removal: th-cam.com/video/Tk1dffYiQNI/w-d-xo.html
Timestamp of install: th-cam.com/video/Tk1dffYiQNI/w-d-xo.html
The video becomes a bit choppy as soon as you start cleaning the case before the plating. Just to let you know. Love your vids by the way!
One of the most beautiful watches you have restored! I too love the restoration with the fine new finish and the aged face! Thank you for not ruining that watch face! Beautiful beautiful watch!
Watching now!!
Excellent once again! Not that you are looking for ideas for future videos but if you ever have the time a video showing the differences between a mechanical and quartz watch would be something. Always wondered about the differences in how the power is supplied
@WristwatchRevival , would you ever consider tackling a minute repeater/chime watch? The watches originally designed with blind or visually impaired in mind?
I feel like the brush pattern in the lugs was a bit messy. It was hard to see so I might be wrong.
For fun I found a 3D printed movement holders on printables and printed up a small and large version. I don't have any movements to hold, but they do a terrific job of holding coins and washers very solidly (even with the screw thread 3D printed). There are other 3D printed watchmaking tools out there as well, you should review some of them to see how they work in practice. Might be able to get people into the hobby for even cheaper :-).
I'm really waiting for you to work on a co-axial movement
How are ya...
Great video. You mentioned about stuff on ebay often being terrible, I recall the one you opened that had the balance missing for example....
Thanks for inspiring me to get my first pocket watches. It's led to an amazing hobby
Stay awesome my friend
Marshall, the plastic/nylon "pointer stick" tool you use, this time to push the new main spring into the main spring barrel, has a name (because of course it does) - it's called a "spudger." Tmyk... Great video!!
I have a very old pocket watch from Europe 18k gold wast left for from my grandfather would you be interested in working on it and make a Video I can send you a photo it's in great condition . Love your Videos . Joe
You are very wise to use a nickel undercoat, it stops the gold diffusing into the brass which I will do. I recall some one from the UK atomic energy research asked us to gold plate a pile of copper bits from some new experiment. They had the bits gold plated directly on to the copper substrate. It got warm and behold the gold vanished! A few microns of nickel was all it took to stop. Btw, we used to say gold on watches wears at about a micron a year.
"Someone tried to fix it and they screwed it up"... I think you mean "they didn't screw it up properly" 🤣🤣 I'm here all week folks
Been a while appreciate the upload. Nice one!
Very nice video.they are always fantastic
Hi Marshall, I was wondering if you did adjust the Beat error on that beautiful Tudor.
Thank you Marshall for sharing this beautiful video on the restoration of a cool watch on TH-cam: 👍👌👏!
Hi I have been a fan. I find your videos very exiting and relaxing at the same time. I recently got into watches. Big part is because of you. 😅. I have a small question if you could. I have a new watch. Its a tissot only not hte level of watches you do. and i was thinking of changing the watch face. Is that normally done? is it difficult and expensive to do? Hope you can give me an advise. Thanks in advance.
Thank you very much for another awesome session!
2:50 - Definitely patina.
Nice watch but it did look difficult to reassemble, just curious aren’t you supposed to reverse polarity when electro cleaning ? Love your videos
Hi Marshall, well done. I have a Tudor watch from way back in the earlier 70's (when I was a kid and my farther gave it to me as a birthday present). Hasn't run for 50 or so years. Recently serviced my Rolex (bought in 2014) thanks to your videos (+ lots of money spent on tools - haha but I have everything now). Do You think I should try a restoration of the Tudor? Sort of nervious as it was from my Dad. Have seen all your videos (some several times). Have confidence but not on the order of dissasembly/assembly. Any tips? - Oh wait a tic - maybe film?
Have you thought of adding movement number/caliber in the descriptions so you become a reference for people?
Nice watch.
Not being a vintage watch fan, I can't deal with the raggedy dial, but I'm sure I'm vastly outnumbered out there, so... good job anyway!
Wow this turned out nicely. Your projects are so relaxing to watch and always leave me in a good place. Thanks for sharing Marshall. ❤
Great channel BTW. Is the winder knob fully in place on that beautiful Tudor watch please ? Looks like its protruding to me.
lv ur vids my guy but how do you know what little screws go were seen how many different sizes there are blows my mind how they done this in the 50s lol lv your channel buddy
Been waiting for a new WWR for a bit! Love Tudor I got a Black Bay 58 earlier this year as a promotion gift, somewhat hard to explain the brand, history but watch people get it
There don't appear to be seals inside the winding tube or in the crown, so I assume the watch isn't really "waterproof," even though it has a sealed back. True?
Ah yes, 19mm lug width because Rolex!
beautiful watch, excited to sit down and watch as it comes back to life! thanks as always marshall
Marshall, is it possible that sometimes, just sometimes, you tend to over-oil certain parts?
That is absolutely beautiful man. Nice work!
I've seen most of the videos u have. But was watching a movie smoky and the bandit burt Reynolds had a wonderful looking wach on with a turquoise sterling silver band it looks like a chronograph I think I spelled that the right way wonder if you would do one like that maybe a movie theme wach
maybe you have addressed this in past video, I do not recall, but what do you do regarding possible radium on these older watches? I actually have a Geiger I use.
Incidentally I have a Waltham watch that had the exact rotor problem when I received it. The Foster 220 movement uses a clip that slides in place to lock the underside of the rotor on. It was loose inside the case.
Petition to get Marshall some new finger gloves ☝🏼
Love this one! Are you keeping it, or would you like to sell it?
Great video glad you are doing well wish I had the patience to do work like this thanks for sharing
How does one go about contacting you? I have 3 items to talk to you about.
I wait for your videos with excitement every time, your content is so good
please clean the dial a bit more. dirt is not romantik!
I had a Swiss pocket watch of my Dad’s restored. I did not want the gorgeous champagne dial touched. The watch repair man not only obliged my request , but agreed with my decision.
Another dash of Marshall goodness. It's always interesting to see how different manufacturers do processes differently...and how to challenge watch repairs....
2:57 depends on the watch. This one works, but some dials merit a sympathetic clean up. And there's certainly some dials that are absolutely too far gone. I've started getting some watches from fleabay and usually i make the decision after i fiddle with the watch. I always replace the crystal, i think that's one aspect that always needs to be in top condition (mostly because i've had an old crystal that looked perfectly fine shatter after a few days of use) and usually that spurns the outcome. I've cleaned a couple, left a few alone, i've replaced one completely so far (tho that one was shattered in one of the pegs). Like i said, depends on the watch. When i was a kid i wanted to be a doctor, i didn't do that, got into architecture like most of the family, so i get to play doctor with watches now. :) I let the patient speak.
I love both kinds of Dials. I have to say I really like this dial in general. Simple, but classy.