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- Conflict Zone live panel on the future of Israeli-Palestinian relations at the Munich Security Conference. DW’s Sarah Kelly leads a discussion on the war in Gaza and wider conflict in the Middle East.
Kicking of with a setting-the-scene interview with the prime minister of the Palestinian Authority, Mohammed Shtayyeh, the session will be followed by a panel discussion with Israeli, Jordanian and other officials. Is there a prospect for long-term peace?
Participants:
Mohammad Shtayyeh, Prime Minister Palestinian Authority
Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister
Tzipi Livni, Israel former Foreign Minister
José Manuel Albares Bueno, Spanish Foreign Minister
Mélanie Joly, Canadian Foreign Minister
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Why doesn’t anyone ask the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip what they want? Oh, I forgot. No one is let in or out.
It’s like a experimental weapons lab
@@Yoo-yooYeshua Yep. Antony Loewensteins's book: The Palestine laboratory.
How come thousands of Palestinians crossed the border every day to work in Israel before 10/7? Would you let Palestinians into Israel right now not knowing who is who?
Palestinians are ao blinded
# 1 First Question NOT answered! NOR asked again!!!
Why ..,no Hostages Released????
@@ENT756Also here on TH-cam free doc about global arms industry and how it necessitates endless war: " A Shadow World" Be ready to wretch.
Ava’s nor Hamas never wanted a TWO State Solution because the world is maintaining that little population with Humanitarian Aid and Tax payers dollars. Hamas leaders are billionaires of this project, how would they want Hamas gone???
Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
Wrong is wrong...regardless of the identity of the one doing wrong...Europe and America needs to stop this hypocrisy
Sure.... War crimes and all that. But look at USA. Look what the US did when they were attacked by terrorists in New York. The entire US went to war on 2 countries that had nothing to do with it, for decades. And are still bombing those countries today. Some 3000 Americans died in New York, but in retaliation, they killed millions.
So do you think America is going to step in and stop this? No... They wont.
go and ask arab brotherhood😂😂😂😂
What do you suggest they do to stop Israel?
@@ggaggagga4 Stop to send weapons would be a first step ...
@@ggaggagga4 cut off the military aide...at the very least condition it
the interviewer is bias, interups when she wants, make monologues as questions to attack the minister and change the subject when she knows that the ministers is saying something that show that she is wrong.
She sounds like she's advocating for Israel.
@@habsom1406 Yeah pretty openly
@@santiagoalcantara3806well, she is in Germany, so…
The palestinian representatives took up much of the time with their rants and the interviewer had to eventually intervene in their diatribes so that the other party could respond.
The man is a stuck record… and he does not answer the questions. He does not deserve this platform.
Ms Kelly's stance is clearly biased. Just watch her hand, such clear body language. She does not accept the truth from a Palestinian. She cuts him off, speak over him, raises her hand to stop him talking. Thus was despicable!
Absolutely you are right she's sure under Israeli payroll
Maybe Russia and Iran can stop supplying hammas with weapons and rocket's...
Iran will never agree
Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
That will happen when US stops installing puppet governments in countries and looting resources.
US UK INHITLER ALSO DIDNT STOP.
Very little of what Netanyahu has done could be characterized as self-defense. His war crimes have solidified Palestinian attitudes towards Israel for generations to come.
Oh yeah like they loved Isreal before. 😂
@@sugarkane4830 Nobody is supposed to love the occupying force.
What war crimes?
stop using the word occupying@@ansgarm.cordie9659
@@sugarkane4830 ... What ? ... " Oh yeah like they lived Isreal before. " ... what does that men ? ...
A mediator has to balance both sides. But watching this feeble justification to avoid a clearly obvious solution is painful.
and clearly obvious solution is?
Because I cannot think of one...matter of fact I'd assert that there isn't one..and the shows with Barghouti and now this guy, illustrate why..
There is no political solution to it, because it never really was a political problem. That was always just a trite cliche.
It's a clash of cultures. One culture more good than bad..and another far more bad than good.
And the only actual solution to that which works at all, is actual the A-word. Nexus.
@@KateLicker the simple solution is divide the territory evenly into separate and sovereign states. Ending colonization and settlers.
In plain terms...A border, stay on your side in all respects. Similar perhaps to what was called the internationally recognized "Green Line" of 1967 that Israel has continually breached. There is a reason Israel claims no borders. For the only nation in the world defined purely on religion, claims the entire world eventually.
Their book, not mine
@@KateLicker Israel better be the "far more bad than good" in your little description
@@catsNcode👏👏👏
well, I guess from your pov that was a coin-toss bet....but you still washed out of the casino.. @@catsNcode
- What do you say about October 7th 2023?
- Why don't we talk about 1948?
When 5 Arab states attacked Israel and lost? Or when East Jerusalem was controlled by Trans Jordan and Gaza was occupied by Egypt?
exactly my question! ♥
you should study history more before ask😂😂😂😂
My remark intended to *criticize* the Palestinian guy.
Who is "YOU"?
If you mean the Palestinian representative, he condemned what occured on 7/10, as well as the Jordanian ...
Just hear the whole discussion !
Without aid from US and UK ,this country could never ever had dared to commit such crimes against humanity for last 75 years
they definitely would have dared, they just wouldn't have been successful
Palestine? I know right
Sure.... War crimes and all that. But look at USA. Look what the US did when they were attacked by terrorists in New York. The entire US went to war on 2 countries that had nothing to do with it, for decades. And are still bombing those countries today. Some 3000 Americans died in New York, but in retaliation, they killed millions.
Without the financial aid from US and EU Palestine would never have exist
@@thedoctor.a.s1401
They wouldnt have existed like today. Not in the same form. They wouldnt have had the weapons or equipment either.
Ms. Kelly doesn't seem to be an unbiased participant - I feel sorry for the Prime Minister, whom she constantly speaks over and won't allow to answer her questions. It's cringeworthy to hear her speak of the Isrealis' undeniable trauma, while ignoring the trauma of a million defenseless civilians who who have endured 4 months of unrelenting and unjustified mass killings.
and yet...the second thing came second, and the first thing, came first...causing the second.
You just don't get that sequential linear flow thing, do you?
you mean the way the Palestinians have been abused for decades … that first thing?
@KateLicker
Research the thousands of things that came in the 75 years before the first thing. Im not saying that the 'first thin' was ok. It certainly wasn't. But it can't be taken out of a long history of land theft, displacement, murder, and lies.
Xd
La plupart Des massacres qu ont subis Les gazaouis dou Les palestiniens ont etes executes par leur propres extremistes comme le hamas
How convenient for Egypt. Conquering Gaza in 1948 and now they condemn Israel??? Why didnt they give them a State??? And by the way, they don't allow palestinians with egyptian passport to enter Egypt unless they pay 6000 USD
“Been that way for 30 years.” - U.S. Justice Department on the lack of Human Rights in Oklahoma County Jail, 2020
“It is said that no one truly knows a nation until one has been inside its jails. A nation should not be judged by how it treats its highest citizens, but its lowest ones.” - Nelson Mandela 🥂🥂
Well states & ty for sharing this 🙏
Fun fact... Its illegal for European countries to hand prisoners over to USA because USA does not uphold any hint of international standards for treatment of prisoners. And then there is the matter of the death penalty.
Facts aren’t fun, they are merely facts.
I’m glad you mentioned that. Unlike the palestinian “justice” Israel doesn’t have the death penalty. Sinwar received life saving cancer treatment from Israel while he was in an Israeli prison. This is a fundamental difference between the Israelis and the palestinians.
@@samanthasabbath3745 You know what has always confused me about “people of religion” - Any Western religion I guess….the wailing, moaning, & gnashing of the teeth? Like, you’re going to spend ETERNITY w/your loved ones completely happy in the afterlife, so if they aren’t with you for a while on Earth, why the sorrow? 50, 75 years, 10 years… compared to /eternity?? Just weird to me. Atheists/agnostics, totally get. Religious people, make no emotional sense to me whatsoever though.
Israel will never accept the right for Palestinians to exist,the Jordanian minister spoke the truth
The bull in the kraal that no one wants to deal with
To be clear, there's no evidence at all that Israel doesn't accept the right of the Palestinians to exist. All of the evidence is to the contrary, as the Palestinians have existed (and multiplied greatly) while under overwhelming Israeli military domination since 1967. If Israel didn't accept their existence, they'd all be dead by now. It may be true that Israel will never accept a fully sovereign Palestinian state, but this is different from accepting their existence.
You are right but the same goes for the other side. The palestinians still believe israel will magically disappear one day due to an act of god or some other nonsense.
Equally, Palestinians will never accept the right for Israel to exist. It's a problem with no solution.
Equally, Palestinians will never accept the right for Israel to exist. It's a problem with no solution.
If you really cared about palestinians you would turn over hamas and free the hostages. No you don't need cease fire you need some common sense
Let the woman speak! The more you talk the more you are making …??? !
Why is the host saying the history is up for debate? Foes she not know the history or is she trying to stop him from talking abt the reason gor the resistance.
She has no interest in hearing the Palestinian perspective.
It is not Occupation
WB n Gaza is part of Judea and Samaria. Ie Israel now.
WB and Gazans r Arabs. They belong in Jordan n Egypt.
It is Israel that is under the Arab occupation
There are two different narratives of what happened. The side that declared war on the other and lost didn't like the outcome so they now say they are under occupation 😮
So typical, Israeli reps can speak without interruption and pushback. The asymmetry is never ending
True. They always get to speak without interruption. So much for western media way of operating
maybe there are less interruptions because they make more coherent sense and partisan-lie somewhat less..
Well you can learn what each side is about by watching Al Jezeera and then ILTV (Israeli news). You’ll hear both sides of the argument then but I expect you only want to hear one side?
@@KateLicker Prove it? Do you have linguistic background? No? Well, I have! Spare us your ultra-crepidating, your edgelord trolling, and your Hasbara lies, please.
Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
I wish media people like Sarah Kelly would stop excusing an ongoing genocide with the terror attack of 7th. October ! Does she have any plausible explaination WHY the border to Israel was unguarded that very day , from a nation, which otherwise has the best security systems of the world ... DW News should allow her to go to Gaza and report from there , maybe she gains some humility , obviously she lacks it
Why should you care if Israel did or did not guard its border properly?
You just want to besmirch Israel.
What gan said. You have really no clue in regard to what was manned and what wasn’t that day. Just sit down and be quiet.
6:00
Hamas DID NOT kill 1,200 on october 7th 2023.
The official number is 1,139.
Of those at least two thirds were IDF or security forces and therefore legitimate targets of an armed resistence.
Of those confirmed dead from october 7th, it is UNCLEAR how many were killed by Israel as a result of the HANNIBAL DIRECTIVE.
So the borders were not guarded for it to motivate innocent and helpless palestinians to storm into homes and bath with blood?
Please wake up. This issue needs a holistic solution.
Did you also call genocide what Assad did in Syria or the Mullahs in Iran?
In regards to Israel: The population in the gaza strip has been growing strongly over the last decates - how can there be a genocide happening?
They didnt materialize because the Palestinians wouldnt and couldnt make any compromise. If they had an iota of reasonableness about them they would have had a state decades ago. Recent events shows just how justified the Istaeli concerns were and are.
Thank you Mr Ambassador for stating the facts courageously
I salute you from 🇸🇦
We all stand with solidarity with our brothers in 🇵🇸
We need to move from talking to implementing the respect, dignity and freedom of people of 🇵🇸 .
@yaqoutah1: If you are going to defend Paledtine, have the decency and respect to print the rightful name "PALESTINE", not just stick a flag emoji on!
Zahir Muhsein was a Palestinian leader of the pro-Syria As-Sa'iqa Ba'athist faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization between 1971 and 1979.
In an interview with Trouw Magazine, 31. March 1977 he stated....."The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new tool to continue the fight against Israel and for Arab unity.
Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad, aired by Al-Hekma TV on March 23, 2012. Stated.....
.....we all have Arab roots, and every Palestinian, in Gaza and throughout Palestine, can prove his Arab roots - whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere. We have blood ties. Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that. More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri ["Egyptian"]. Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis. Who are the Palestinians? We have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from Aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. We are Arabs.
Salma Fayumi, a resident of Kafr Qasim (Palestin/Israel), demonstrated her cooking prowess on the show "Master Chef." Fayumi proudly showed off her Kushari dish that she prepared, "Egyptian cuisine made of rice and lentil." "My family came from Egypt, from Faiyum, and I am Salma Fayumi from Faiyum," the cook from Kafr Qasim said.
If Palestine were an Arab state, at any point in recorded history, why was there no mention of them? Because there never was an Arab Palestinian nation, nor any nation called Palestine, ever.
When the Ottomans conquered the land in 1517, they gave no independent statehood under Arab rule, but held Palestine as a territory.
Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
Stop Genocide in Gaza immediately stop 💔
It will stop forever after Rafah. "no bamboo,no flute".
It will stop when Hamas stops doing it. Israel tells the civilians to get out which means they are trying to avoid killing them. So, Israel is not committing genocide. It’s about intent and Israel is targeting Hamas
no need to stop until the terrorists are defeated.. stop being a terrorist / sympathiser.
@@mf5514 Free Palestine 🇵🇸💪🕊️💯
@@mdnaquiimam137 israel is freeing it.. a bit too slow though
Good that some people have a lot of patience with the ignorant.
Yes, it needs a lot of patience to handle with people who ignore International law for so many years.
"How Long Is the Path of Man’s Life
For whom do you busy yourself in the world
How long will the good life last in the end times
How long is the road ahead
How many disasters will come to your side
When lamplight is dying, it suddenly brightens
Under last rays of sunset, things appear orderly
Calamity has come, and so have Gods
Truth dissolves sorrow, connecting to heavens
July 23, 2011"
Master Li Hongzhi (Hong Yin IV, from Falun Dafa teachings)
@@user-qm8cm1dn2v Yes, the Palestinians are not the only people who are persecuted, but they are in the focus of the Western World at the time being and I hope that their suffering will be stopped soon as I hope for all who are suffering.
Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
@@olgam601 I don't get your message. Could you please unpack it a little bit so that it's in a context?
15:35
"We have limited time"
So why did you waste so much of it by asking ridculous questions and iterrupting his answers?
It is clear from the facial expression of the interviewer that she is trying to belittle the PM. She is very disrespectful by constantly interrupting him. Downright shameless!
That's just it, she is trying to tell him instead of listening.
The host is forcing the outcome of this interviews. Why? She is eroding this important gathering.
Nah... the man kept ranting about israeli and never wondered why he's in the interview
If Hamas is going to be part of Gaza....
There should NOT BE A DIME GIVEN!!!!
U obviously insane
Can we negotiate with people holding guns in their hand
He is answering everything really well, she keeps interupting him and talking on top of him, people have some kind of tiktok brain they want a yes or no question to everything but load the question's with hidden agenda.
he waffles about nothing, or nothing noteworthy...
@mf5514 history is nothing? What a naive way to see things. History explains everything up to this point..
@benbison182 nothing worthwhile here but people thinking they are entitled to something that wasn't theirs
No children were mutilated that’s a lie. This woman is an Israeli agent.
I guess English is your 3rd language. The man is lost in the past. Gaza is gone, and he keeps talking about 1948
Bad faith vibe from the interviewer
I totally agree-very biased.
Agreed. She has that look....."but Hamas"
When she said “lets talk about now”…..it was so ignorant of her. There is no now if there was no past. Like for us human we are who we are from past experience, past trauma, etc.
@@lw9068so we have to not mention “Hamas” like they don’t exist and pretend that what they committed didn’t happen? Every time the palestinian (Arab) representatives say to put Oct. 7th “behind us”. Yet Israel doesn’t have their people back that the palestinians brutally dragged from their beds into Gaza.
She is biased..has bad faith. The Palestinian ambassador very smart. Good he did not allow the interview to suppress his views. Very proud of him
Whether Gaza or the West Bank:
It was never about freeing the hostages, it was never about Hamas, it was always only about expanding the occupied territories and the associated ethnic cleansing and genocide. Israel has been pursuing this program since the NAKBA 1947-49, when 700,000 Palestinians were expelled from their homes and 50,000 were killed.
It requires the intervention of all forces to stop this injustice.
Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
She talks with a forked tongue
She's fully informed unlike you
She’s sexy and very beautiful.
Its important for the moderator to provide ample opportunity for the new generation gain the historical perspective on the Palestinian plight -
there is none, get on with it...
The Palestinian representative deserves a medal for his perseverance amidst the terrible way the interviewer asks multiple questions, without waiting for his complete response.
He deserved a better listener to conduct this interviewer.
It can all be accomodated if and when they return the hostages. He is evading this fact.
Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
And the 9,000 Palestinian HOSTAGES ILLEGALLY in ISRAEL'S PRISON? WHAT WITH THEM? Are they worth less than the Israeli hostages?...
He had a surprising amount of grace for her with his conclusive handshake and, “Well done.”
Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
Palastinians have a right to defend themselves.
same for Israel to defend themselves right we should be supporting both side.
@@rookmeeneeseesurn1087 No, your wrong. Please educate yourself and listen what the UN special rapporteur on Palestine, international humanitarian lawyer Francesca Albanese said.
Israel is not allowed to attack Gaza because according to humanitarian law, the occupier is not allowed to attack the population of the territory it is occupying.
Thus, Israel is NOT ALLOWED to shoot one single bullet in Gaza, otherwise it commits war crimes. Whereas the Palestinian people of Gaza, the west bank and East Jerusalem have EVERY RIGHT to DEFFEND THEMSELVES even with arms. Got it?
Israel: We want to make peace, but not with our enemies -- those have to be completely destroyed? That's not how things work.
Good. Now stop whining.
Also Israel
Ukrainians and Syrians can leave their countries until the war is over, but Palestinians must remain in Gaza and never leave. And their Arab brothers in Egypt don't want them anyway.
Palestinians have a history of leaving and never coming back. The nakba and nakhsa (1948 / 1967) saw the exodus of hundreds of thousands from their homes. It is a scar that never healed. Expecting them to leave to Egypt shows how little you understand of the 75 year occupation of Palestine. Would you leave your land if your grandparents were kicked out of theirs?
What an ignorant person with no clue of anything. Its better to be silent.
@@faisrush I think you're missing the key words "can" and "must" here. She is right that Palestinians are the only civilians in the world that are not even given the *option* of fleeing a country at war. If they were to flee, would they be allowed to come back? I don't know, but shouldn't each Palestinian have the right to decide for him or herself how to weigh that risk vs. the risks of staying? Why does the rest of the world think they have the right to make Palestinians stay and die for a political cause, whether they actually want to or not?
Here you are again with your ignorance spouting off 🙄
@@faisrush I totally agree with you.
Answer the damn question T_T aaaaaaaaa
Has this prime minister answered a single question? This is so difficult to watch
It's only a matter of hearing properly... 😉
You just don't like the answer since not in your favor.
@@eddastrohmayer251 Uhh.. so you're hearing words that aren't being said? Fascinating stuff!
@Tillit_Bam @@eddastrohmayer251 There are very good hearing aids nowadays. Maybe these might help you.:-)))
For all who comment (without have heard the discussion!😮):
The Palestinian and the Jordanian Representatives condemned what occured on 7/10 !
Yes!
I have been disappointed in Canada after she had spoken😢😮 and😮!!!surprised because this is not the Canada I know. Anyway later change. The truth is just the true my darling sister humanity will never change.
What a rude lady. She just wants to ask her pro-israel questions and not let the man speak.
Look at whom she’s owned by - who owns DW front
@@omegahaddad833Who owns DW?
Hamas was supported by Israel
We learn more when we conduct our own research .
He does not answer the questions…he is a stuck record, will loose his job within this year, and new people will rebuild Palestine.
The interviewer sounds like AIPAC's talking point automaton.
Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
We all want to see the Gazans live peacefully and independently and the world is awaiting to help them rebuild but they can’t even find a good and proper government so what’s the point?
What this egyptian man means is that when Egypt illegally conquered Gaza in 1948 and ne er gave them citizenship, it was ok. Now that Israel didn't even occupied Gaza sin e 2005, Israel is to blame
Israel 70 seneden beri gazzeyi isgal ve duvarlarla hapis ediyor kücük cocukları ve siwillerle öldürüyor
😂😢
Sarah Kelly’s interview with the Palestinian PM was very disappointing. She was patronising and as usual framed everything to October, rather than to historical injustices.
Disappointing, not what I have come to expect from DW’s levels of journalism.
Completely different approach in the following interview format. One of listening not talking over or interrupting.
Awful. Very biased. Embarrassing isn’t this some kind away of famous journalist?
Palestinian spokesman was interrupted. Bad moderator Kelly is
disappointing he carried on about nothing and waffles on about everything irrelevant.
and just some statistics: the situation in gaza , presented by the palestinean PM and very eloquently by jordan Safadi, took up the biggest part of the discussion
Thats the end of a chapter. This two years has been incredible for me . Sigh . ....It just feels like they have just moved in yesterday. Time flies by so quickly. before i know it . John has shown me nothing nut kindnesses . The bond that we share is unexplainable. Joy happiness love. Two years has gone by. ......
He is not answering any questions
He’s talking bla bla of Routine
Hindu if you listen properly he is answering .
"you oppress over 5 million people then you say you want peace?" I have nothing more to say if you can't understand that.
there is more to say. those people had bad leadership that did not care enough for them during negotiations, they cared more for their own career. same can be said for israel.
quality over quantity... 5 million oxygen thieves?
Uh Israel left Gaza in 2005. How was Israel oppressing Gaza?
The only reason Israel is in the West Bank is because the Arabs attacked Israel with genocidal intent in 1967. Israel remains there because if they left the Arabs would use the West Bank to attack Israel. You know it and I know it
@@juancsmixeasier said than done when your state is denied and starved off. It's not easy to run any authority there when israel rigs the game.
They are forced to make controversial decisions
@@KarakuraNinja what state is starved?
I really appreciate to Mr. President of Palestine 🇵🇸 . He reflected very clearly each and every single concern over the Palestinian situation.
Sorry to take away from the important conversation but oh my god, who is that beauty doing the interview. If she interviews me, I can find it in myself to be the most interesting man in the world.
57:34
Who is doing the HEAVY SIGHING?
When people talk about Israeli crimes?
NO HOSTAGES, NO FOOD!!!
It is not true!
HAMAS SAYING IT DOES NOT EVEN KNOW IF 40 HOSTAGES ARE ALIVE ?
"We HAVEN'T RECEIVED OUR MONEY IN 3 MONTHS"
NO SHAME!!!
"They tie the hands of Palestinians throw in waves then ask why are you not governing"
"Humanitarian needs should not be held hostage to the hostages". Excellent 👍🏾
The Jordanian Foreign minister is such a genius guy. The mediator is of course very biased. I hope that the mediator in MUNICH SC is not biased so that the issue is solved on a priority basis.
Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
1:01:08
"I want to be respectful of eveyones time today"
So why did you waste so much of it by trying to frame the narrative and by talking endlessly over guests?
The host spoke for one third of the total time.
The PA prime minister missed a golden opportunity when Oct 7th was raised. He could have talked about the ENDLESS list of atrocities that Israel did BEFORE Oct 7th.
Arrogance and disdain can be seen from someone
The interviewer?
What about an education programme for people without any historical knowledge?
What exactly do you know about the education in Israel and in Palestine. Apart from the fact, that all schools and Universities in Gaza are destroyed now. And that kids will have difficulties in learning because of the long time damages by trauma and starvation.
@@ansgarm.cordie9659 Unfortunately, you misinterpreted my comment, but maybe it was not clear enough.
@@MendeMaria-ej8bfi understand what you noted. People need to read all the history. Most of the people who spoke after the experts talked were knowledgeable.
Nurit Peled-Elhanan published her research about "Palestine in Israeli School books" in a book. Shockingly, Israeli kids not even know their state's borders and Palestinians are always represented in dehumanisingly derogatory manners, if at all. Palestinian history - the Nakba for example - is totally left out in Israeli School books.
The questions and statements were mostly excellent especially the marvelous Indian woman. Many of the questions are so good.
I'm glad the journalist is asking tough questions to both side. Much more balanced coverage than that in the UK right now.
I concur
She is not asking tough questions , she is biased , impolite and interrupts all the time ... she sucks
I was also glad to see the tough questions, but I felt that she interrupted too much, and was sometimes rude, particularly in her interview of Mr. Shtayyeh. Yes, she did better than a typical UK interviewer these days, but that's a pretty low bar. :-)
No she is just interrupting his answers, that's not being a good interviewer
The host is on the defense for the Israel government not being neutral as reporter....
Peace for all !
End occupation, it's cruel, it's illegal.
Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
Good for the guest-speaker, he able to deliver his message ...
11:12 "Do you want to ask me and wait for an answer or do you want to continue talking?"
This is hilariously witty. The host deserves a subtle slap for badgering the guest even before he can start responding to her questions.
Jolie does NOT speak for all Canadians.
A man looks for solutions. This man sounds just and I believe him
To China Rep: First of all, recognize Taiwan before preaching to others!
Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
The West has decided that international law does not apply in Palestine, that its ally Israel can indulge in all kinds of crimes with impunity, and that the Palestinians can be massacred at the slightest fault or misstep, despite being a people subjected to occupation and all forms of oppression and humiliation for decades!
The fact that the West is able to control Arab regimes, which are for the most part corrupt dictatorships that don't represent their people, won't prevent irreparable recurrences,
Just to be clear, by the "slightest fault or misstep" you mean the rape and murder of 1,200 people, and the kidnapping of over 250 more, planned carefully over a period of years, and executed with the deliberate intent of provoking a massive reprisal. Do I have that right? You make it sound like Sinwar just forgot to send Bibi a birthday card.
thank you ... exactly
They do the horror of OCT 7 but its them that are the victim ,they brought this on themselves , they are not escaping this time
You quickly forgetting the horrors Israel ( actually Netanyahu) and his government been inflicting on Palestinian which is lead to oct 7 . Let’s not forget that the IDF the one who did the massacre against the Israeli party goers, not Hamas . Netanyahu has taking this atrocity too far by committing genocide and authentic cleansing against the Palestinian who got nothing to do with Hamas .
Of course Oct 7 was horrendous and should never have happened. Dehumanising and treating Palestinians as subhumans and their deaths to be trivial and assumable is basically racist and bigotry!
Palestinians have had Oct 7 basically everyday since 1947
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Ils distribue Des bonbons et danse a chaque fois que Des juifs meurent dans un attentat
We want to know the whole history of the Palestinian people - the journalist should be on this interview - impartiality has to paramount
Does that interview lady work for the IDF?
Clearly
Sure
He did not answer any question she asked. He's just speaking.
@CF201 so asking Arabs questions and not saying "amen" to everything they say = "working for IDF"...
This is exactly why the Arab world is WAY behind the rest of the world.
I think so, she interrupts every single time the truth was spoken
Many thanks to the Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister!! His words said it all. 🙏🇸🇩🕊️
He’s telling the truth and they don’t want to hear it and they don’t want other people to hear it
The Canadian delegate has been a joke.
Demanding Israel to stop fighting is the same as demanding them to lose to Hamas. One doesn't win wars by letting the opponents have tactical breaks at one's own costs. Should not be too difficult to get this simple fact.
Where are the Hamas leaders????? For sure not in Gaza! ... Hamas is the biggest excuse from Netanyahu to erase the Gaza strip , btw an organisation, he , himself has sponsored!
This is no war.
The premise is flawed, Israel is leaning its ladder against the wrong wall. Hamas is an ideology and will be relabelled as some other resistance group as long as there is oppression and illegal occupation by Israel.
@@ansgarm.cordie9659 Is there "only" Hamas`s special operation against Israel, just like Putin`s special operation against Ukraine? lol
@@lennarthallberg9918 There was a terror attack. And now, there's a genocide going on. You don't fight terrorists by killing children.
I really do not like the interviewer’s behavior of interrupting conversation.
Who are the participants ?
(A curious question to the Microphone itself)
There are 52 Saturdays in a Year.
How come only ONE Saturday comes up on top of everything?
Why not Other 51 Saturdays also counted as equal as 1 ‘specific Saturday’?
And Its a Very basic question to Human Rights Commission. Thank you
Care to give a bit more information? What you ask makes no sense.
He can't stop lying wow
He has shown us the tunnels.
Inappropriate clothing.
This „prime minister“ displays very well why the negotiations fail: He doesn‘t see any fault on his side and doesn‘t offer any compromises.
Which fault is that? For being a Palestinian?
Palestinians should reciprocate and defend themselves like israel is doing. It's necessary the help of Palestinians friends, of course
Israel occupies the Westbank and takes day by day land from the Palestinians. Israel against international law consistently makes facts on the ground for many years.
What "compromises" more ???
What "compromises" would you recommend?
More land for Israeli settlers in the Westbank ... ? To say "thanks" for occupation ...? .... ?
What compromise should he do!
Pride comes before disaster, but with humility comes wisdom.
Compare Oct 7 trauma and 75 plus years of living under control with no end in sight. Which one is more painful? Frame things right. Also make an effort to feel sad for Palestine killed by bombs. I only hear Oct 7 trauma but not the trauma that is going on with the killing. Imagine yourself living in Gaza right now. JUST IMAGINE.
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Mr. Ayman Safadi, Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister: on your OWN words: "We should not be responsible for cleaning Israel's mess".
Thanks God Europe, Israel did NOT say that to the Ukrainian people. Among a hundred other examples.
biased questions, why don't they get this tough with the other side that is perpetrating war crimes!?
The rape murder and kidnapping committed by Hamas on October 7 were war crimes. Israel is not committing any war crimes
Let me just say congratulations co conflictzone for another high quality and important programme and that it deserves much more attention and views than it currently has.
This prime Minister did not answer one question 😅
Worst moderator ever.
Her smirk and bad-faith approach is so galling
Do you condemn Hamas? Israel has the right to defend itself. I'm fed up with this narrow mindset.
Defend itself like how? By committing genocide?
Defending itself by killing innocent civilians whom are not associated to Hamas and say they don't condone what Hamas did irrespective of Israelites invading their land forcefully.
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@@felixmoyoedonmi Maybe you should read my comment again and try to understand what I'm suggesting.
@@thabomatjiu3473 Another misunderstanding?
I am sick of hearing Oct. 7 and the lies.
Not if you have family members being kidnapped by Hamas
The female interviewer is sooo biased. She’s terrible.
She is trying to be equal and fair but as usual the truth rarely spews from the mouth of the Palestinian Authority. Their entire history is made up of lies which is a shame as they do have a proud history but the Palestinian has been brainwashed to hate Israel and fight for Israel to be GONE.
As if she is representing Netanyahoo. Who is she? What is her name? The "rape"issue has NOT been proven either.
The root cause of this war was not October 7 . Look back at what causes that October 7 th from 2008 up to October 6 th what did Israel have done to these poor Palestinian people.
That does not justify the atrocities we witnessed that set off this conflict. Than is not resistance. It’s pure terror and barbarism.
These poor Palestinian people were dancing in the streets on October 7th and now they are playing the victim
- did they get justice before oct 7?
Many Palestinians are imprisoned without trial
- Did they get the rights they deserve before 7 okt? Water, electricity, fuel, population mobility, and many of their rights are being curbed
@@Spirit_Inspiration a prison of their own making
An eye for an eye..... So the saying goes .
This journalist blaming Hamas after all has happen is criminal.
Europe is Rotten
So, you think Hamas has no responsibility whatsoever? They knew what would happen to their people after October 7th They gave Netanyahu the premise he needed to destroy Gaza. Hamas and the Israeli government are twin brothers relying on each other.
@@ansgarm.cordie9659 Yes, like Cain an Abel. Israel is the perpetrator and the muderer Cain and Palestine is the victim and the murdered Abel.
He didn't cover - that Israel evaluated Gaza, where Israeli use to live before 2006. It was their biggest mistake. Isn't it?
Every single person on this panel is interrupted by the host MID POINT.
Mid sentence even.
Let people finish their answers.
If you have "time constraints" then THAT IS YOUR FAULT DW.
Podcasters can do 4 hours shows with none of these time constraints... Dont penalise the guests and the audience because you cant get with the times.
She does not interrupt them equally. She lets the mouthpiece for Israel go on uninterrupted.
1948 is not distorted ! Israel was given 55 % of the land - now Palestinians have less than 8%
Have mercy on whom ?
De 1948 a 1973 Les palestiniens n avaient pas de terre et n en proclmait pas quand ils etaient sous occupation de la jordanie ou de l egypte qui esperaient detruire tout Israel et d en faire un non judaiq land comme la plupart Des pays arabes qui ont expulse leurs juif d irak, de syrie du liban de libye et d egypte