Thanks for watching guys, here's the accompanying article for this video: armourersbench.com/2024/07/14/anti-tank-mines-used-as-satchel-charges/ - Matt
The competing pressures of "I don't want the enemy to be able to throw the charge back out" and "I don't want to explode" is a terrifying game of chicken that I am very glad I don't have to play. Excellent video as always. I'm glad this channel is starting to get the viewer base it deserves.
I think with that weight, you first have to lay away your rifle, because you can probably only throw the mine with two hands. So even throwing it back with a 10 seconds fuse seems ambitious, and since nobody knows the fuze timing, even the 20 second fuse seems like a safe practice. Even if thrown back, you can throw that like at max 10 meters, then your still not safe from shrapnell. but you can run out of the zone, barely. 3 seconds is definitely suicidal.
nah that was something else i've seen the footage its from earlier this year. That convoy made it out okay but i dont know about the guy in the turrent
I did "familiarisation training" with satchel charges during my time in the infantry, and accurate fuses were basically 2/3 of the manual. For those wondering, familiarisation is a way to spend a rainy day inside, with coffee and heating, playing with a couple of training mockups and reading through the army manual. Edit also, great episode. This short fuse thing the russians are doing is bonkers!
We were doing that in bf1942, son. (although the expl-sives in that game didnt stick to things and would often clip right out of the vehicle en route to the target)
It's probably completely coincidental that Finnish hand grenade fuses fit perfectly into AT-mines. As well as anti personnel mine fuses and claymore detonators 😇
Recall seeing a Ukrainian vid speaking this type of mine cut into 1/4s and then used as “tossers”. They spoke of using a bandsaw on the defused items….
A satchel charge is an assembly of plastic explosives, det cord, detonators and time fuse...all secured (usually) with gun tape. There is (usually) no real fragmenting components. A grenade has a great deal of fragmentation where a satchel charge is pure destruction based on its push/blast capacity.
Comparing safari and real war. Hey you was fighting shepherds in sandals. And brits nazi who there is now , looks like no balls and brain for that. When it is birds with explosive above your head😂😂😂😂
Really love your videos! It’s really interesting to learn about these improvised and makeshift weapons used in actual combat. Love that “it might look crude but hey, it just works, and it’ll get the job done” vibe
If not already stated, the use of AT-mines as satchel charges can highlight logistical deficiencies, but "just as good" can also be a major factor when the effort to acquire pre-fab satchel charges or components is cumbersome.
I have no idea on specifics, but tbh in trench and urban fighting I'm sure soldiers would rather have makeshift sachels than none just so they can carelessly toss them when they feel like it, rather than only having enough to finish a specific task
@@y0h0p38 I have to say, your disrespectful use of "carelessly" and "when they feel like it" does seem to highlight your lack of real experience in this arena. Satchel charges (avg 10 x blocks of C4 + det cord + detonators + time fuse) and TM-62 AT mines (17lbs) aren't light, and the prepping and deployment of them isn't exactly easy work, nor for the weak hearted. That final run-down alone is a 50/50 chance that you're not coming back. So, feel free to convey some humility in your wording.
@@jay.t.foulds I'm not quite sure how I was disrespectful. Was I proper and technical? No, I used slang and jammed a sentence together, but never insulted anyone. If I offended you, I apologize. Yes, no one is "carelessly" throwing a half dozen KGs, but do you do anything carelessly when your life is at stake? My words were not meant to be taken literally, but rather figuratively. On the Ukrainian side, there's enough 112s that they are common enough to be seen with UZRG fuses. Russian Battalion tactical groups have enough as well, you see the same idea with blocks and VOG fuses. I don't have specific numbers, but a lot of charges appear to be donated, so I don't know if they have enough. Meanwhile, mines such as the 62s are literally everywhere. The way logistics works, at least for the Ukrainian side, is each unit is given what they need, extras are requested. Russian ground forces don't get enough supply that they even have enough charges most likely. I don't see a reason for why this wouldn't be popular, clearing a trench manually means that the point man is nearly 100% dead. Both sides already use improvised charges of all sorts, grenades aren't enough to level a dugout
Im pretty sure ive seen a video of a land-based drone (some weird little thing a bit smaller than one of those barbie car things) with an AT mine on it
A three-second fuse is needed so that the enemy does not have time to react and pull the fuse out of the mine. the video from the Ukrainian stronona shows that they use an engineering fuse, something like ZTP with a long delay and throw it where there is no one
The TM=63 has a "anti-tamper" (boobytrap) plug that can take a blasting cap or a grenade fuse. Or you can just put some C4 with a cap on slow fuse in the detonator well like the ones in the close up clips show.
@@BigMakBattleBlog Yes and yes. Most of my career has been as a combat engineer in the Canadian Armed Forces and in 2022 I had a stint with the ILDU. The punchline of that deployment is...don't back your pickup truck over AT-mines. Not only have I been way too close to my own satchel charges, breaching charges, grenades, etc...but I got partially disassembled in Ukr by two TM-62s. 1st/2nd/3rd degree burns, disintegrated left humerus, torn open scalp, blown both ear drums (resulting in tinnitus), broken neck, shrapnelized, etc (I always forget something)...but all scans (of which there were plenty) came up negative for TBI/CTE. Trust me, they can't explain it either. My Neurologist literally said, no joke, he said I was wolverine. I replied that I didn't think doctors were supposed to say such crap...lol. Yada, yada, yada...it was odd to smell my own flesh burning. Oh...I remembered...while I was crawling out of the vehicle as it was on fire...a 7.62 cooked off and ripped through my left side. Good times.
I don't know how similar the Soviet / Russian TM-62 and U.S. M15 anti-tank mines are, but I understand that the M15 has two secondary fuse wells at the bottom and side for anti-handling devices. Is it possible that the Ukrainians and Russians are using the TM-62's secondary fuse wells to convert them into improvised satchel charges?
the side works perfect for the US mines, but the M 21 you have to use the main fuse well since that mine has a secondary fuse on the bottom for the jumper fuse to push the mine up into the vehicle. Now the tm-62 do you have a 3/4 drill and you can make a side fuse well directly into the explosives. I have seen them with wood, plastic and a fiberglass resin for the outer casing.
I find it hard to believe that a military unit would settle into any location, including a building without guarding its access and placing look outs beyond. Not realistic.
This is not a new. In the German instructional (and propaganda) movie 'Männer gegen panzern' it is shown that their anti-tank mines can be fitted with time-delay fuses for the purpose of turning the mine into a satche charge. Using a 5 second grenade fuse however is something I haven't seen and you couldn't pay me enough money to do what these Russians are doing! Its too dangerous!
Just cut the safety fuse to whatever length you want = timed fuse, if you know the burn rate of the safety fuse. That's why you always time a test piece of safety fuse burning.
Thanks for watching guys, here's the accompanying article for this video: armourersbench.com/2024/07/14/anti-tank-mines-used-as-satchel-charges/ - Matt
*quietly crosses Combat Engineer off my dream job list
lmfto
You're not wrong. A sapper's life isn't for everyone.
LMAO
😂😂😂
Fantastic comment.
The competing pressures of "I don't want the enemy to be able to throw the charge back out" and "I don't want to explode" is a terrifying game of chicken that I am very glad I don't have to play.
Excellent video as always. I'm glad this channel is starting to get the viewer base it deserves.
Thanks for the kind words!
I think with that weight, you first have to lay away your rifle, because you can probably only throw the mine with two hands. So even throwing it back with a 10 seconds fuse seems ambitious, and since nobody knows the fuze timing, even the 20 second fuse seems like a safe practice. Even if thrown back, you can throw that like at max 10 meters, then your still not safe from shrapnell. but you can run out of the zone, barely. 3 seconds is definitely suicidal.
Man, the BALLS needed to pull the pin on an ANTI TANK MINE with a 3 second fuse!
Did it plenty of times on my Bf1 Amiens tour mate. Been there got the T shirt
🥱
Alternatively ignorance/stupidity.
@@0xCAFEF00D Alternatively massive balls of steel*
@@Tr4wnetIgnorance, there is a reason 20 second fuses are used by the army that want to persevere troops
3 seconds with nearly 20 pounds of HE in your hand is absolutely desperation and balls of steel
2:47 guy gets smacked by his buddy’s charge when he is driving away
Friendly fire isn’t
nah that was something else i've seen the footage its from earlier this year. That convoy made it out okay but i dont know about the guy in the turrent
@@arithmetikmilitantpoetry9548 the group had planted explosive and was driving away , preemptive set off but they were ok
I did "familiarisation training" with satchel charges during my time in the infantry, and accurate fuses were basically 2/3 of the manual.
For those wondering, familiarisation is a way to spend a rainy day inside, with coffee and heating, playing with a couple of training mockups and reading through the army manual.
Edit also, great episode. This short fuse thing the russians are doing is bonkers!
This is some serious Battlefield 3 C4 on jeeps type shit right here
And actual BF anti-tank mines? Not very demolishing, depending on the game.
beeeeeeeeeep
We were doing that in bf1942, son. (although the expl-sives in that game didnt stick to things and would often clip right out of the vehicle en route to the target)
4:10 VA: "Your TBI is not service related."
spicy roomba
It's probably completely coincidental that Finnish hand grenade fuses fit perfectly into AT-mines. As well as anti personnel mine fuses and claymore detonators 😇
Both sides are playing engineer in red orchestra 2
Recall seeing a Ukrainian vid speaking this type of mine cut into 1/4s and then used as “tossers”. They spoke of using a bandsaw on the defused items….
That rear Humvee def got slapped a bit by that driving away lol.
English please.
@@kiereluurs1243 That rear Humvee def got slapped a bit by that driving away lol.
@@kiereluurs1243rear Humvee got shrapnel damaged When it drove by the exploding house
@@samholdsworth420A little bit more than shrapnel damage for sure, that gunner is gone
@@gadielplays2419 yeah probably
at what point is it not a satchel charge and is just a big grenade?
Apparently there is A shortage of "Plastic".
@@AKloverthose damn turtles...
@@johnsmith-jq1uc when you take it out of the satchel, it's a grenade?
A satchel charge is an assembly of plastic explosives, det cord, detonators and time fuse...all secured (usually) with gun tape. There is (usually) no real fragmenting components. A grenade has a great deal of fragmentation where a satchel charge is pure destruction based on its push/blast capacity.
when you don’t have to sprint like hell after throwing it 😂
UK was using Bar Mines cut up as breaching charges in Afghanistan.
Comparing safari and real war. Hey you was fighting shepherds in sandals. And brits nazi who there is now , looks like no balls and brain for that. When it is birds with explosive above your head😂😂😂😂
Nobody gives a rats azz what UK used anywhere.
5:45 "... please do share the video with friends, colleagues and ENEMIES ..." 🤣👍
Thank you for the information on the origin and meaning of that phrase.
Oh you're very welcome!
For real! I always thought it was a nautical term.
@@TheArmourersBench brings a whole new meaning to the churchill AVRE petard
Really love your videos! It’s really interesting to learn about these improvised and makeshift weapons used in actual combat. Love that “it might look crude but hey, it just works, and it’ll get the job done” vibe
If not already stated, the use of AT-mines as satchel charges can highlight logistical deficiencies, but "just as good" can also be a major factor when the effort to acquire pre-fab satchel charges or components is cumbersome.
I have no idea on specifics, but tbh in trench and urban fighting I'm sure soldiers would rather have makeshift sachels than none just so they can carelessly toss them when they feel like it, rather than only having enough to finish a specific task
@@y0h0p38 I have to say, your disrespectful use of "carelessly" and "when they feel like it" does seem to highlight your lack of real experience in this arena. Satchel charges (avg 10 x blocks of C4 + det cord + detonators + time fuse) and TM-62 AT mines (17lbs) aren't light, and the prepping and deployment of them isn't exactly easy work, nor for the weak hearted. That final run-down alone is a 50/50 chance that you're not coming back. So, feel free to convey some humility in your wording.
@@jay.t.foulds I'm not quite sure how I was disrespectful. Was I proper and technical? No, I used slang and jammed a sentence together, but never insulted anyone. If I offended you, I apologize.
Yes, no one is "carelessly" throwing a half dozen KGs, but do you do anything carelessly when your life is at stake? My words were not meant to be taken literally, but rather figuratively. On the Ukrainian side, there's enough 112s that they are common enough to be seen with UZRG fuses. Russian Battalion tactical groups have enough as well, you see the same idea with blocks and VOG fuses. I don't have specific numbers, but a lot of charges appear to be donated, so I don't know if they have enough. Meanwhile, mines such as the 62s are literally everywhere.
The way logistics works, at least for the Ukrainian side, is each unit is given what they need, extras are requested. Russian ground forces don't get enough supply that they even have enough charges most likely. I don't see a reason for why this wouldn't be popular, clearing a trench manually means that the point man is nearly 100% dead. Both sides already use improvised charges of all sorts, grenades aren't enough to level a dugout
hi ChatGPT
@@QazwsEdx-c7p I'll take that as a complement...lol.
To give a little context; 7kg of HE is beyond modern MBT HE round explosive yield, and more like the explosive yield of 152mm and 155mm HE rounds
I read that the soldier who threw the satchel bomb into a house in New York was concussed by debris from the explosion.
I bet he was!
2:57 I don't know if he escaped the blast
I'm dubious.
Some posts were saying he survived with some injury, forgot the exact one but probably his brain got shook around a little
Он жив, получил контузию
На наших источниках пишут, живой
You call throwing dynamite a martial art? “Hey, if it works, it works”
The destrucive power of this mines is Astonishing.
Its very easy to convert mines into explosion discs so it makes a lot of sence to use them
Thank you
Hvala na informacijama sa terena, na sličan način mi smo lovili ribe na rijeki Savi u Hrvatskoj za vrijeme rata 1992. godine. Podrška iz Hrvatske...
ma to sinisa komentraj na hrvatskom koda ce iko razumit
@@pupiga_3096Slava Z! Pozdrav iz Hrvatske 🇭🇷❤️🇷🇺
Thank you for another excellent video!
“I was a Combat Engineer. Isn't that ridiculous? The two things I hate most in the world are combat and engineering.”
Right on. Thanks for sharing.
You make use of what you have on hand.
THEY.
🥱 No, they.
can you do video on AS VAL / VSS?
"is quiet gun"
If you want to to know history and operation there's one on Forgotten Weapons.
Nucking_futs_yuri has a mint video from 11 months ago of the disassembly and operation of the gun.
@@R.Sole88109 Thanks will chek it out
Waste not , want not.
That a big boom you got to get moving faster than that 😮
Dangerous work
Im pretty sure ive seen a video of a land-based drone (some weird little thing a bit smaller than one of those barbie car things) with an AT mine on it
Definitely!
1:20 the best part about the original video is he actually says "Surprise, blyat!" as he chucks it in.
Great video thank you for all the information provided by your good self keep smiling and be happy
Holding something thats capable of destroying a house in your hands, with only a 3 second fuse is really scary.
When life and death are a daily matter, innovation comes quick
Those are so powerful in enclosed spaces 😔 no way that Russian got away without injury😮
4: 13 fk that you do it sarge
an idea that's been used for decades
And continues to be. Thanks for watching.
Господи, помилуй нас, грешных...
A three-second fuse is needed so that the enemy does not have time to react and pull the fuse out of the mine. the video from the Ukrainian stronona shows that they use an engineering fuse, something like ZTP with a long delay and throw it where there is no one
These mines are against the Geneva convention!
It reminds me of the suicide tactic in BF1942 where you rush a tank and slap a mine on it, destroying the tank but also offing yourself
They are resourceful.
Awesome video ❤😂❤
Thanks for watching!
Does the fuse go to a cap or no? All I know about that stuff I learned from cartoons. It could have grasshoppers inside for all I know.
The TM=63 has a "anti-tamper" (boobytrap) plug that can take a blasting cap or a grenade fuse. Or you can just put some C4 with a cap on slow fuse in the detonator well like the ones in the close up clips show.
There is no way you walk away from that without a TBI
Oh yeah, not a chance.
Actually, while it is exceptionally rare, surviving without a TBI/CTE is possible.
@@jay.t.fouldschucked one have you ? Been anywhere near one thats gone off...?
@@TheArmourersBenchwnats worrying really is tjeyndo come with a ready made satchel strap, chucking it at Tanks etc, for the purpose off
@@BigMakBattleBlog Yes and yes. Most of my career has been as a combat engineer in the Canadian Armed Forces and in 2022 I had a stint with the ILDU. The punchline of that deployment is...don't back your pickup truck over AT-mines. Not only have I been way too close to my own satchel charges, breaching charges, grenades, etc...but I got partially disassembled in Ukr by two TM-62s. 1st/2nd/3rd degree burns, disintegrated left humerus, torn open scalp, blown both ear drums (resulting in tinnitus), broken neck, shrapnelized, etc (I always forget something)...but all scans (of which there were plenty) came up negative for TBI/CTE. Trust me, they can't explain it either. My Neurologist literally said, no joke, he said I was wolverine. I replied that I didn't think doctors were supposed to say such crap...lol. Yada, yada, yada...it was odd to smell my own flesh burning.
Oh...I remembered...while I was crawling out of the vehicle as it was on fire...a 7.62 cooked off and ripped through my left side. Good times.
I think we'd call that a hasty satchel charge in the states.
Waiting for them to add this to rust
I’ll subscribe to this.
3:56
素晴らしい攻撃。対戦車地雷の利用 !!!!
This happened in Yugoslavia also.
Best CQB is apparently a TM62
Tks.
Cda.
Nyali prajurit rusia jangan diragukan lagi mereka mengirim ranjai anti tank pada pasukan ukraina hanya dengan berlari
that is one bigass grenade
タイヤは回転するとかなり遠くまで直進する。
戦車用マインを小さなゴムタイヤの真ん中に入れて動力で回転させて狙えば新しい武器になる？（直感）
It could, but the use if time fuse would still be advised.
Does this hurt the buildings?
gladius in facie mortis lucet
How do soldiers fit into such small holes in the ground?😊
Жить захочешь залезешь 🤪
Dangerous way of droping a bomb .
i dunno.. i think the Scottish caber toss and this satchel mine were meant for each other. make it happen!
OMG just wow.
I don't know how similar the Soviet / Russian TM-62 and U.S. M15 anti-tank mines are, but I understand that the M15 has two secondary fuse wells at the bottom and side for anti-handling devices. Is it possible that the Ukrainians and Russians are using the TM-62's secondary fuse wells to convert them into improvised satchel charges?
the side works perfect for the US mines, but the M 21 you have to use the main fuse well since that mine has a secondary fuse on the bottom for the jumper fuse to push the mine up into the vehicle. Now the tm-62 do you have a 3/4 drill and you can make a side fuse well directly into the explosives. I have seen them with wood, plastic and a fiberglass resin for the outer casing.
I find it hard to believe that a military unit would settle into any location, including a building without guarding its access and placing look outs beyond. Not realistic.
War is horrible
Great one mate!! Slava Ukraini, HEROJON SLAVA!! 🇺🇦🇺🇸
Слава России 🇷🇺
@@BairGanzheev❤
2:47 did the second car make it?
Yeah it makes it through.
The fucking 3 second fuse... yeah I'm good
the forbidden tuna
I wonder how many TM-62s Russia had in storage before the war. I mean huge parts of Ukraine are mined and they are also using them for other missions.
Давно пора по американской схеме: всё сначала ракетами и бомбами, потом танками, а после пехота.
Use what you have is what I say.
Russians cosplaying japanese in the most slavic way possible
Balls of steel
🥱
*idiotism
And brains of shit
Титановые яйца
02:26 - WOOWOOWOOWOO!! _Nyuck nyuck nyuck!_
Muy S.r.s. mios, es una forma muy buena de como mínimo dejar a los orcos sin refugio. Olé por los Ucranianos . Ucrania Libre.
What happened to the guy @4:00
He had a major concussion, but after some time he recovered and went back to fighting
SWEDISH WORLD BEST TANKS HIDE IN UKRAINE.
20second ??? another British Military Expert 😂😂😂
20 second?
Это уже что-то на уровне Ирландцев с их ракетометом из банки печенья
"...share with friends, colleagues, and enemies..." Gotta luv that Brit humour!
Hahah. Thanks for watching Dan.
This is not a new. In the German instructional (and propaganda) movie 'Männer gegen panzern' it is shown that their anti-tank mines can be fitted with time-delay fuses for the purpose of turning the mine into a satche charge.
Using a 5 second grenade fuse however is something I haven't seen and you couldn't pay me enough money to do what these Russians are doing! Its too dangerous!
No, not new concept but the most recent use of the tactic.
I thought they made the ruskies use a shorter fuse but okay another form of incompetence?
Yes. They apparently aren't aware that you don't get to respawn iRL.
하나님이신 예수님 사랑하는 우크라이나를 도와 주셔서 러샤와 전쟁에서 대승하게 하옵소서~
예수님 이름으로 ~아멘~
Slawa Ukraine 🇺🇦💙💛👍❤️
Нет уже окраины
Hey, you use what you've got. Thanks to Russia Ukraine has lots of these mines.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
😂его уже нет
4:11 rip lol
Nah, he just had a major concussion, survived tho
Viva ukurania 🇺🇦🇹🇱🦾
الله يحفظكم يارب دايما تكونوا جميعا بحفظه يارب
catch not kill
Need a timer fuse
Just cut the safety fuse to whatever length you want = timed fuse, if you know the burn rate of the safety fuse. That's why you always time a test piece of safety fuse burning.
Its Truly Fun. Just a Game. Non-Lethal
....😅 really🎉!
Needs to be added in arma reforger modded
🥱