I use the tire with straw stuffed around inside. I also use a soda bottle half filled with vodka. That leaves a good air pocket. It allows it it float on top of the water. If outside, The wind and chickens will keep the bottle moving to help delay the surface of the water freezing. If inside the chickens peck at the bottle ( because you know how nosey they are) and that helps keep the surface from freezing so quick. This is my first time to the channel. I will subscribe and watch. Enjoy and blessings to your homestead.
Back in the 50’s60’s they used to have food dishes for toddlers that were round & compartmentalized on top, were 2” thick and hollow inside. You could fill them with hot water to keep a toddlers food warm. i don’t know why but your water test made me think of that. Yes I am older than dirt. lol.
Thank you!!! I just moved off grid in September it's now start of November (Canada) and although I've got the coop winterized I've been trying to figure out how to keep their water from freezing! It's already -3°C so I'm already having issues with it. All the water warmers I'd been looking at required electricity so thank you so much for making and sharing this video!!♡
If you boil the water it changes the molecular structure and will freeze faster. Hot tap water doesn't freeze faster because the molecular structure is the same as the cold water. Hope this helps
@@cathy3392 that's not an argument lol you're hot pipes in the wall don't stay hot for long at all.... notice how you have to run the sink for a bit to get hot water...that's because theres a length of pipe sitting with water thats cooled down.....
I have done this experiment… water 80 degrees will definitely freeze before 212 degree water. Water 125 degrees will freeze before 212 water… the Mpemba effect is mostly bogus. It’s really hard to make it work just right.
Interesting, I will test this in my hen house. The floor gets to cold for a water bucket when the temperature goes down under negative 15-20 C/59-68 F and we often have down to negative 30-40 C on and off during a couple of month. So when I can lay my hands on a suitable tire I will try this out. Thank you for the tip!
We use a 5 gal bucket for our dog and stack 3 tires over it and it takes a while to freeze. A lot longer than by it self for sure. And this is without insulating the tires with foam. Easy and cheap!
What if you put a floating ball or something inside the water? So that when animals drink they will move it around and maybe keep it from freezing on top for a longer time. Also the wind could blow it around and keep it moving... could be an interesting experiment
Viktor -- Cattle ranchers put a rubber ball in the water tub to keep the water from freezing for a longer time. Just as you said, the animals moving the ball and the wind moving the ball keeps the water from freezing for a longer time. If a person gets serious, they use a solar panel with a water heater. I do not think that is needed here to provide water for chickens and goats, though. Al can just put out water in the morning and the evening.
This was a great experiment. Like you said, it’s not about keeping the water from freezing indefinitely but to keep it drinkable until your next feeding. If it makes it for 12+ hours, you are golden. I would add another parameter to the experiment, or rather two parameters, 1) try it with different volumes of water, 1/2 gal, 1 gal, 2 gal, 3 gal 2) try it with different opening diameters.
Thank you so much for this. I’m near Canada and winter is always a concern but I’m not good with electronic things. So the passive heating and something that’s easy to fill and will put up with ducks trying to tip it over is helpful.
I’m glad Olivia is doing her research on hedgehogs before getting one. My daughter had one. It’s like having the cutest little pet with all the most horrible habits and problems you could possibly pack into one animal. Be sure to find a vet who is familiar with them if you get one. Even for routine care. I don’t want to discourage or disappoint her, but tell her to pay close attention to their bedding needs and keeping them from, uhh, getting, uhh dirty. LOL. They need a special wheel, too. Olivia, good luck, and I know you’ll take good care of it if you get one!
install the electricity wherever you need ,plug in an air compressor for fish tank as little as you can find just a couple of watts and the water stay unfrosen.
Cold water freezes faster. Think about the fact that it takes some amount of time to bring the temperature of the hot water down to the starting temperature of the cold water. However long it takes for the cold water to freeze, it will take the hot water that amount of time plus the time it takes for the hot water to be brought down to the starting temperature of the cold water.
ive seen people use a pvc pipe filled with Christmas lights the old ones that get hot . you have to make sure the cord has a fuse in it just incase . how ever even if a fire happens inside the pipe for some reason the pipe is sealed and will put the fire out once the oxygen inside the pipe is burned up . people were using them as chicken warmers for the chickens to roost on . to keep them from freezing .
Yes do a test! The mystery of what freezes first, hot or cold water, is one of those age old questions like what came first the chicken or the egg! Looks like your waterers are working! Have a good weekend
to be fair, the video is exactly what you said. but I'd adjust your goals to get a better result. there's PLENTY of ways and I live in a frigid environment much colder than where that is. it won't be room temp as the lows here get in the single digits very often but certainly can keep it above 50 zero problems. different layers of varying insulation is key.
Good morning from Florida, a couple of things to think about, the black tire will hold the cold temps letting it get much colder. Also the plain bowl of water was sitting on the frozen ground, try doing it with straw under it. When I was a kid back in New Jersey we used to drain my parents hot water heater ( twice 50 gallons each time ) to fill a small ice skating rink in our back yard and also added hose water it was frozen by the next morning with temps in the mid twenties over night. Good luck with your project.
People put hot water in ice trays not because they will freeze faster, but because the ice will become clear. Boiling the water removes the air dissolved in it, producing clear ice as a result.
Oh! That'd be a fun addition to the farm, a hedgehog! lol Figaro would have a blast with it, I bet! Thanks for the idea for the chicken waterer using old tires- I'm definitely going to be doing that this weekend with an old oil pan I have lying around.
Interesting test, Al. We had -1 degrees F here in Maine, but I run a heat lamp over my chicken water when it is supposed to be 10 degrees or colder. Blessings to you all.
I split my firewood small last year..... Similar in size to yours & I went through it so fast. This year we have tree hunk pieces & im pleased it is lasting longer
Re: the last ingredient you added to the meat - Worcestershire sauce - it’s pronounced "Whoost a sheer"The 1sr and 2nd "rrs" are silent. As are the "c" and the 1st and 2nd "rrs". If you just remember those 3 syllables I gave you, the word will just roll off your tongue. - - and you won’t sound like a non New England native! BTW, Whoost a sheer tastes great with any red meat dishes ( by the tablespoon)! 👵🏻 Patricia from Alton Bay.
I need to find those rubber pans in smaller sizes for all my rabbits!! I have the plastic crocks from Tractor Supply. I fill them up 2, sometimes 3 times a day and they work really great, but I am afraid the plastic will be too brittle during the really cold temps. I used to fill up a 5 gallon water cooler jug with hot water from the tap in the house but today I picked up a 16 gallon heated horse watering bucket. That thing is nice!! It beats lugging 5 gallons from the house to the shop. Now its a 3 gallon jug walking 30 feet. As for the hot water vs cold water freezing test, I remember hearing that hot water freezes first. I think it has something to do with the minerals in the water. When we get goats and chickens I will definitely be using your waterer idea! Great job and thanks for sharing. Oh, watching your meal prep at midnight is no bueno...now I want to get out of bed and into the kitchen to cook something up! Ugh.
I’m always looking for new ways to keep my animal waterers thawed without buying heated waterers. I work at a hardware store and have lots of old tires saved. I see a new project in my future to try this idea. Thanks.
Would be interesting to see warm vs cold, would need to do them all at the same time under the same conditions. I am also glad to see Olivia finally found a good food combination, our boys love peanut butter and banana, well really peanut butter and anything else!
Good morning. Yes please do the cold/warm water freezing test. I have a nickel that says cold water freezes faster. Received my solar powered jar lights yesterday, really cool, really happy with them. Thanks for the tip
You could use geothermal heating by digging that tire in the ground and under that a 4 foot hole which allows the earth to warm up the water. Another suggestion you can put foam and a rubber top on with a 4-6 inch hole in the top which also helps with keeping the heat in. I don’t remember whos video I watch with this but it worked well.
Love to see the h/c water test. You could set up a saw horse and plywood off the sliding door. 1 it's on the north side so less sun on it. 2 you could set up time lapse camera in nice warm house.
I’m on my 3rd heated water setup for my chickens, they only last a year or two, I’ve never tried this method because I assumed it was based on the sun warming the black tire and bowl and my chickens water is in the covered run that’s enclosed on 3 sides so it don’t get the sun shining on it, I think I’ll have to pick up some spray foam and a rubber bowl from the farm store and try it for myself, I’m sure I’ve got a pile of junk tires around here somewhere.
Pond in Hebrew is reflection like seeing yourself in a pond and going away and forgetting what you look like n this is why we ponder on things n memorize n pray so that we don’t forget.
Of course the one that's sitting directly on the ice is going to cool down and freeze faster then the one that sitting off the ground and in the tire insulated
Robert, he knows the insulated water container will take longer to freeze. The experiment was to find out how much longer it will take to freeze to give him an idea how long the animals would have access to water.
@@scottprice8994 yes I know but where the animals are there's hay on the floor there's a difference that's why I mentioned it if you were going to do an experiment you would do it in the exact of environment as the animals
@@robertsantiago4329 -- This was mostly done to satisfy curiosity. If the water containers were in with the animals, the animals would be drinking the water. Again, that would change the results of the experiment. This is not a university science experiment. I thought it was a fun experiment.
My emergency water bottles sitting on the floor in the house froze solid. We went down to below 0 fahrenheit. Unusual this time of year for Kentucky. Diesn't usualky hapoen until mid-January.
Found you from Jeff at Bobblehead Homestead, he suggested this video for water freezing. It doesn't get that cold down here thank God, but our water for animals does freeze sometime thanks for the tip.
Wish i could see the snowy trees and sparkles in the snow...its another lovely side of nature's beauty..I admire the snow but couldn't stand those cold temperatures I get cold easily...Good dinner!🍲🍲🍲
Although it may seem counterintuitive (all other variables being equal), hot water does indeed freeze faster than cold water because warm water evaporates rapidly and since this is an endothermic process, it cools the water making it freeze more quickly.
I did some reading on hot water freezing before cold. Because the hot water is losing some of its volume to condensation in the air (steam) the volume becomes less and with less volume, it will freeze faster. I would imagine its just marginally faster though.
Hot water freezes faster because, it has fewer gases dissolved within in it. Purer water freezes faster. That's why, when you freeze distilled water, it not only freezes faster but, the resulting ice has no frozen gas bubbles suspended within it. If you conduct your experiment, I would suggest using distilled water, as a third comparison against your hot and cold tap water. The quantity of gas bubbles in suspension within each resulting set of ice cubes should prove the point, if I'm correct.
The good thing about having snow on the ground...the goats and chickens (if there out) can just take a nice bite of snow....19 degrees here in NC last night....chilly!!!
Hmmm wondering if the tire pocket rim is stuffed with dense manure, wil it work to insulate and release warmth to keep water liquid. I'm very curious about this tire hack. Thanks.
Great idea for the waters. We make our hamburger- salsbury steaks with mushrooms gravey. They are a staple on our farm table. I make them with fresh ground pork too.
Use a fish tank bubble filter thing, sorry no idea what it's called , it can run off a battery . Just insulate the battery pk , the moving water stops it from freezing
Are there solar heaters for feeders? I'm needing to get some for my hummingbirds. They hang around in winter and it snows here !! They LOVE my cattle panel that I bent into an arch in between my raised beds. They love sitting there staring at the feeders and fight off other hummingbirds, territorial little hummers.
Randomly came across your video today when searching for methods to keep water bowls for our garden hedgehogs unfrozen. Here in the UK we get wild garden hedgehogs visit our garden regularly although they are starting to hibernate now ready for the British Winter. Might try and see if I can adapt your tyre (or tire as you say) method on a smaller scale. Your cooking section was cool as well. It tickled me how you pronounce 'Worcestershire'... We Brits say it (phonetically) "Wuss-tar-sher" sauce and is named after county (bit like a US district) in England. Have fun in the snow and thanks for the water tips :)
You forgot to add a wider step to the goats hay feeder so she doesn't have to eat her hay sideways. Is the Hedgehog study a project for school or Olivia just likes to study them? Smart girl.
I don't think he forgot. He's probably not gonna do it till Spring. I imagine it would be hard to drill the new plank into the barn and the existing step and feeder (or however he's going to do it) when the wood and everything is frozen solid.
Lumnah Acres: What is that white pan made out of? The one you were cooking the burgers in. BTW, instead of the ketchup i would of used BBQ sauce. A BBQ sauce that doesn't taste sweet, or i would use Rotel mild. If i used Rotel mild i would strain it well so everything would not be so liquidy.
Definitely see if the hot or cold water freezing is a myth or fact. Good job with waterer Freeze test. The salsbury steaks looked delicious. Great video.
In the frozen north they chuck a glass of hot water into the frosty air to get the instant crystal effect . . . that's the reason I think hot water freezes quicker?
I wonder if you construct a plexiglass box around the tire/bowl with hole on the sides so the goats can drink. I think the plexiglass may create a green house affect and make the water a bit warmer . Just a thought.
Al, maybe a test without insulation inside a tyre and the other with the insulation. You already now the container freezes without protection. Love watching your videos, by the by. Merry Christmas to you all.
I love this idea! Also, I’d love to see you do a test to see if hot water freezes quicker. My Mother and I were JUST having this discussion about your video before you said it.
I keep my goats and chickens water thawed by throwing a 20 oz water bottle filled with a very salty water inside. put the lid on shake it and throw it n you will find the water in bucket will not freeze. i was skeptical as well but it works try it..
The hot versus cold water issue is REALLY complicated. If you try, you need to ensure both of them are the same amount of water (smaller amounts of water will freeze faster) and the same type of water (distilled will freeze faster than tap water), etc. And even under pretty strict controls, scientists have seen it go both ways; there's no hard and fast answer. Some times the hot water goes first, other times the cold water does. Evaporation, exact weight, air flow, salt content, all sorts of things can cause it to change.
In the forties a nd fifties, before frost free freezers on refrigerators, there would be a buildup of ice on the shelf where the ice tray sat. If you put hot water in hour ice tray, it would melt y the tray down into the ice on the shelf, bringing it more into contact t with cold surfaces all around. I have no research, just the thoughts of a 70 yr old gramma. Really enjoy your channel!
thermodynamics, it actually requires more energy to go from liquid to solid (over the point of just liquid to boiling). ∴ delaying the time helps refrain the crystallization. worth the insulation. if needed a little of dissolved mineral and ACV may help also, as will lower the freeze point
Try your test in Wyoming, where I am told, it gets down to 15 or 20 or more below zero and see if you still have water or if you, on the other hand, could actually “walk on water“without being divine!
After watching a few hours of farm vids l realize how much humor these hard working folks have. Thanks.
I use the tire with straw stuffed around inside. I also use a soda bottle half filled with vodka. That leaves a good air pocket. It allows it it float on top of the water.
If outside, The wind and chickens will keep the bottle moving to help delay the surface of the water freezing. If inside the chickens peck at the bottle ( because you know how nosey they are) and that helps keep the surface from freezing so quick.
This is my first time to the channel. I will subscribe and watch. Enjoy and blessings to your homestead.
That's a brilliant idea. Thanks for sharing. I'm gonna try that. 🙏 🤗
Back in the 50’s60’s they used to have food dishes for toddlers that were round & compartmentalized on top, were 2” thick and hollow inside. You could fill them with hot water to keep a toddlers food warm. i don’t know why but your water test made me think of that. Yes I am older than dirt. lol.
I had forgotten all about those. Thanks for the memory.
I remember those bowls in the 70's.
Thank you!!! I just moved off grid in September it's now start of November (Canada) and although I've got the coop winterized I've been trying to figure out how to keep their water from freezing! It's already -3°C so I'm already having issues with it. All the water warmers I'd been looking at required electricity so thank you so much for making and sharing this video!!♡
I LOOOOVE when the snow sparkles like that, it's like a field of tiny diamonds! My second-favorite thing about winter snow!
If you boil the water it changes the molecular structure and will freeze faster. Hot tap water doesn't freeze faster because the molecular structure is the same as the cold water. Hope this helps
Then why do your hot water pipes freeze before the cold water pipes
The greater the temperature differential, the faster the energy transfer.
That’s not how molecular work , I would have roast you so bad but I wont since your probably a boomer
@@cathy3392 that's not an argument lol you're hot pipes in the wall don't stay hot for long at all.... notice how you have to run the sink for a bit to get hot water...that's because theres a length of pipe sitting with water thats cooled down.....
I have done this experiment… water 80 degrees will definitely freeze before 212 degree water. Water 125 degrees will freeze before 212 water… the Mpemba effect is mostly bogus. It’s really hard to make it work just right.
Interesting, I will test this in my hen house. The floor gets to cold for a water bucket when the temperature goes down under negative 15-20 C/59-68 F and we often have down to negative 30-40 C on and off during a couple of month. So when I can lay my hands on a suitable tire I will try this out. Thank you for the tip!
We use a 5 gal bucket for our dog and stack 3 tires over it and it takes a while to freeze. A lot longer than by it self for sure. And this is without insulating the tires with foam. Easy and cheap!
Pack your tires with straw. It might prolong the freezing stage more. 😊
I have to say that a few hours after watching this video I made a supper very similar to yours. My family loved it!!! Thanks for the inspiration!
Oh, I'm so glad you came on. I was watching the live streams of the French protests, and now I need a detox of sane family life
yeah thats exactly what i was doing i come here to see sanity and kindness
Jadae16t AMEN! I am sick of bad news too!
What if you put a floating ball or something inside the water? So that when animals drink they will move it around and maybe keep it from freezing on top for a longer time. Also the wind could blow it around and keep it moving... could be an interesting experiment
Viktor -- Cattle ranchers put a rubber ball in the water tub to keep the water from freezing for a longer time. Just as you said, the animals moving the ball and the wind moving the ball keeps the water from freezing for a longer time. If a person gets serious, they use a solar panel with a water heater. I do not think that is needed here to provide water for chickens and goats, though. Al can just put out water in the morning and the evening.
Also, have you tried putting the salted water method 1/2 full in a water bottle to float around? Animals can move it as well.
This was a great experiment. Like you said, it’s not about keeping the water from freezing indefinitely but to keep it drinkable until your next feeding. If it makes it for 12+ hours, you are golden.
I would add another parameter to the experiment, or rather two parameters,
1) try it with different volumes of water, 1/2 gal, 1 gal, 2 gal, 3 gal
2) try it with different opening diameters.
Thank you so much for this. I’m near Canada and winter is always a concern but I’m not good with electronic things. So the passive heating and something that’s easy to fill and will put up with ducks trying to tip it over is helpful.
I’m glad Olivia is doing her research on hedgehogs before getting one. My daughter had one. It’s like having the cutest little pet with all the most horrible habits and problems you could possibly pack into one animal. Be sure to find a vet who is familiar with them if you get one. Even for routine care. I don’t want to discourage or disappoint her, but tell her to pay close attention to their bedding needs and keeping them from, uhh, getting, uhh dirty. LOL. They need a special wheel, too. Olivia, good luck, and I know you’ll take good care of it if you get one!
My friends hedgehog drowned in a couple mm of water cause it was to dumb to lift its head
Or teach her how to humanely put it down when the time comes. That’s what we do with our 5. It’s really life stuff, not Santa clause or tooth fairies.
install the electricity wherever you need ,plug in an air compressor for fish tank as little as you can find just a couple of watts and the water stay unfrosen.
Cold water freezes faster. Think about the fact that it takes some amount of time to bring the temperature of the hot water down to the starting temperature of the cold water. However long it takes for the cold water to freeze, it will take the hot water that amount of time plus the time it takes for the hot water to be brought down to the starting temperature of the cold water.
Logically it only makes sense. But High school science class taught hot water freezes faster. Hope someone can explain this.
YES Im the one saying the hot freezes faster! Do the test Al! Nice job on the tire things!
growing at home getting cards was a big thing it is lovely to see your family keeping up that tradition love the waterers experiment cheers
ive seen people use a pvc pipe filled with Christmas lights the old ones that get hot . you have to make sure the cord has a fuse in it just incase . how ever even if a fire happens inside the pipe for some reason the pipe is sealed and will put the fire out once the oxygen inside the pipe is burned up . people were using them as chicken warmers for the chickens to roost on . to keep them from freezing .
Yes do a test! The mystery of what freezes first, hot or cold water, is one of those age old questions like what came first the chicken or the egg! Looks like your waterers are working! Have a good weekend
chicken is first! If you look in the dictionary, C comes before E !!🤣
to be fair, the video is exactly what you said. but I'd adjust your goals to get a better result. there's PLENTY of ways and I live in a frigid environment much colder than where that is. it won't be room temp as the lows here get in the single digits very often but certainly can keep it above 50 zero problems. different layers of varying insulation is key.
Good morning from Florida, a couple of things to think about, the black tire will hold the cold temps letting it get much colder. Also the plain bowl of water was sitting on the frozen ground, try doing it with straw under it. When I was a kid back in New Jersey we used to drain my parents hot water heater ( twice 50 gallons each time ) to fill a small ice skating rink in our back yard and also added hose water it was frozen by the next morning with temps in the mid twenties over night. Good luck with your project.
People put hot water in ice trays not because they will freeze faster, but because the ice will become clear. Boiling the water removes the air dissolved in it, producing clear ice as a result.
Oh! That'd be a fun addition to the farm, a hedgehog! lol Figaro would have a blast with it, I bet!
Thanks for the idea for the chicken waterer using old tires- I'm definitely going to be doing that this weekend with an old oil pan I have lying around.
Sweet! I’m up in Bangor and I have lots of old tires so yeah, problem solved. Thanks Al!
Interesting test, Al. We had -1 degrees F here in Maine, but I run a heat lamp over my chicken water when it is supposed to be 10 degrees or colder.
Blessings to you all.
I split my firewood small last year..... Similar in size to yours & I went through it so fast. This year we have tree hunk pieces & im pleased it is lasting longer
Re: the last ingredient you added to the meat - Worcestershire sauce - it’s pronounced "Whoost a sheer"The 1sr and 2nd "rrs" are silent. As are the "c" and the 1st and 2nd "rrs". If you just remember those 3 syllables I gave you, the word will just roll off your tongue. - - and you won’t sound like a non New England native!
BTW, Whoost a sheer tastes great with any red meat dishes ( by the tablespoon)! 👵🏻 Patricia from Alton Bay.
Good Morning everyone!!
I need to find those rubber pans in smaller sizes for all my rabbits!! I have the plastic crocks from Tractor Supply. I fill them up 2, sometimes 3 times a day and they work really great, but I am afraid the plastic will be too brittle during the really cold temps. I used to fill up a 5 gallon water cooler jug with hot water from the tap in the house but today I picked up a 16 gallon heated horse watering bucket. That thing is nice!! It beats lugging 5 gallons from the house to the shop. Now its a 3 gallon jug walking 30 feet. As for the hot water vs cold water freezing test, I remember hearing that hot water freezes first. I think it has something to do with the minerals in the water. When we get goats and chickens I will definitely be using your waterer idea! Great job and thanks for sharing. Oh, watching your meal prep at midnight is no bueno...now I want to get out of bed and into the kitchen to cook something up! Ugh.
I’m always looking for new ways to keep my animal waterers thawed without buying heated waterers. I work at a hardware store and have lots of old tires saved. I see a new project in my future to try this idea. Thanks.
FYI with cold broth, just put the lid on the jar and shake it vigorously to mix in the flour, one less tool to clean.
Would be interesting to see warm vs cold, would need to do them all at the same time under the same conditions. I am also glad to see Olivia finally found a good food combination, our boys love peanut butter and banana, well really peanut butter and anything else!
Keeping the water on the S SE side of a building also helps. Loved your video, thanks
Hey Al, try a big Forstner bit in a drill to route out that foam next time. It works a treat.
Good morning. Yes please do the cold/warm water freezing test. I have a nickel that says cold water freezes faster. Received my solar powered jar lights yesterday, really cool, really happy with them. Thanks for the tip
Awesome test...and dinner looked awesome😀
Nice job glad it worked. Liv is really a good girl she looks like she has a lot of fun.
10F is -12C, cold but not unusually cold for winters in the North
It's not winter yet...
That’s regular for us here in Canada northern Manitoba
You could use geothermal heating by digging that tire in the ground and under that a 4 foot hole which allows the earth to warm up the water. Another suggestion you can put foam and a rubber top on with a 4-6 inch hole in the top which also helps with keeping the heat in. I don’t remember whos video I watch with this but it worked well.
Good job Al!
I’ll be looking for an old tire for my chickie girls and some foam stuff!!!
Love to see the h/c water test. You could set up a saw horse and plywood off the sliding door. 1 it's on the north side so less sun on it. 2 you could set up time lapse camera in nice warm house.
Yes do the test please..I would like to know too.
The snow was really sparkling. So beautiful. I assume the bowl of water sitting on the ice will freeze first. Have a Wonderful Day!
I’m on my 3rd heated water setup for my chickens, they only last a year or two, I’ve never tried this method because I assumed it was based on the sun warming the black tire and bowl and my chickens water is in the covered run that’s enclosed on 3 sides so it don’t get the sun shining on it, I think I’ll have to pick up some spray foam and a rubber bowl from the farm store and try it for myself, I’m sure I’ve got a pile of junk tires around here somewhere.
Great video, very informative. Yes let's see if hot or cold water freezes 1st!
Really fun to look back at projects you were working on and how everyone has grown up!
In Texas we call that hamburger steak. We seasoned with salt pepper and garlic salt and add grilled onions on the side.
keep the same amount of wate, but cover half the top surface to increase the time before freezing
Pond in Hebrew is reflection like seeing yourself in a pond and going away and forgetting what you look like n this is why we ponder on things n memorize n pray so that we don’t forget.
Of course the one that's sitting directly on the ice is going to cool down and freeze faster then the one that sitting off the ground and in the tire insulated
Robert, he knows the insulated water container will take longer to freeze. The experiment was to find out how much longer it will take to freeze to give him an idea how long the animals would have access to water.
@@scottprice8994 yes I know but where the animals are there's hay on the floor there's a difference that's why I mentioned it if you were going to do an experiment you would do it in the exact of environment as the animals
@@robertsantiago4329 -- This was mostly done to satisfy curiosity. If the water containers were in with the animals, the animals would be drinking the water. Again, that would change the results of the experiment. This is not a university science experiment. I thought it was a fun experiment.
My emergency water bottles sitting on the floor in the house froze solid. We went down to below 0 fahrenheit. Unusual this time of year for Kentucky. Diesn't usualky hapoen until mid-January.
What size are the tires you used for the water pans, and how many cans of insulating spray foam did you use per tire?
They are R15 two cans per tire
@@LumnahAcres Thank you so much for a really good way to recycle some old tires, and save me time with watering chores. Thanks for the "recipe".
Found you from Jeff at Bobblehead Homestead, he suggested this video for water freezing. It doesn't get that cold down here thank God, but our water for animals does freeze sometime thanks for the tip.
Yes try the test please. Be neat to see rather than read results. Hi from Florida!
Wish i could see the snowy trees and sparkles in the snow...its another lovely side of nature's beauty..I admire the snow but couldn't stand those cold temperatures I get cold easily...Good dinner!🍲🍲🍲
Yes! I would like to see your experiment with the hot and cold water.
Hope Andy and gang are enjoying their new roosting poles. Wish we could see them more often.
my husband did something like you made for our chickens and calves here in Montana. works great and doesn't freeze
Can you tell me how you did the foam insulation? Did you put something on bottom before you used the foam?
Although it may seem counterintuitive (all other variables being equal), hot water does indeed freeze faster than cold water because warm water evaporates rapidly and since this is an endothermic process, it cools the water making it freeze more quickly.
I did some reading on hot water freezing before cold. Because the hot water is losing some of its volume to condensation in the air (steam) the volume becomes less and with less volume, it will freeze faster. I would imagine its just marginally faster though.
Hot water freezes faster because, it has fewer gases dissolved within in it. Purer water freezes faster. That's why, when you freeze distilled water, it not only freezes faster but, the resulting ice has no frozen gas bubbles suspended within it. If you conduct your experiment, I would suggest using distilled water, as a third comparison against your hot and cold tap water. The quantity of gas bubbles in suspension within each resulting set of ice cubes should prove the point, if I'm correct.
Evaporation also causes more cooling. That's why you can freeze water in a bath of alcohol.
The good thing about having snow on the ground...the goats and chickens (if there out) can just take a nice bite of snow....19 degrees here in NC last night....chilly!!!
How much snow did you get from the storm?
Snow does not hydrate animals.
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Why doesn’t it? I’m definitely curious about this comment. 🧐😃
@@michelleblecha9697 yes it does ! Do a Google search before commenting something you don't know ...we are in 2021 smh
Hmmm wondering if the tire pocket rim is stuffed with dense manure, wil it work to insulate and release warmth to keep water liquid. I'm very curious about this tire hack. Thanks.
Great idea for the waters. We make our hamburger- salsbury steaks with mushrooms gravey. They are a staple on our farm table. I make them with fresh ground pork too.
Thank God For this channel & your updates!
What do you feed your chickens? I have watched many videos and hope to get a few hens.
Use a fish tank bubble filter thing, sorry no idea what it's called , it can run off a battery . Just insulate the battery pk , the moving water stops it from freezing
Yes, hot water and cold water freezing test would be great!
Are there solar heaters for feeders? I'm needing to get some for my hummingbirds. They hang around in winter and it snows here !! They LOVE my cattle panel that I bent into an arch in between my raised beds. They love sitting there staring at the feeders and fight off other hummingbirds, territorial little hummers.
Randomly came across your video today when searching for methods to keep water bowls for our garden hedgehogs unfrozen. Here in the UK we get wild garden hedgehogs visit our garden regularly although they are starting to hibernate now ready for the British Winter. Might try and see if I can adapt your tyre (or tire as you say) method on a smaller scale. Your cooking section was cool as well. It tickled me how you pronounce 'Worcestershire'... We Brits say it (phonetically) "Wuss-tar-sher" sauce and is named after county (bit like a US district) in England. Have fun in the snow and thanks for the water tips :)
This is a blast from the past! ❤
Link what lind of ceramic fry pan that was, if possible, please . Awesome ! Thanks ...
You forgot to add a wider step to the goats hay feeder so she doesn't have to eat her hay sideways. Is the Hedgehog study a project for school or Olivia just likes to study them? Smart girl.
I don't think he forgot. He's probably not gonna do it till Spring. I imagine it would be hard to drill the new plank into the barn and the existing step and feeder (or however he's going to do it) when the wood and everything is frozen solid.
Hedgehog for Christmas!! Would be a neat little addition to your videos..Have a great weekend Lumnah family and modern steaders!!
Sparkling snow ❄ is 👍 and freezing icy trees 🌳 are awesome too. Great testing how about heated
Dishes?
We do a Salisbury Steak in the crock pot and its super yummy. Your Steak look awesome.
‘Wustershir’ is the best way to explain how to say Worcestershire, but even in England people struggle!
Could you tell me where you bought the prepackaged meat?.
Lumnah Acres: What is that white pan made out of? The one you were cooking the burgers in. BTW, instead of the ketchup i would of used BBQ sauce. A BBQ sauce that doesn't taste sweet, or i would use Rotel mild. If i used Rotel mild i would strain it well so everything would not be so liquidy.
Definitely see if the hot or cold water freezing is a myth or fact. Good job with waterer Freeze test. The salsbury steaks looked delicious. Great video.
Due the water test Al! Thanks for sharing
In the frozen north they chuck a glass of hot water into the frosty air to get the instant crystal effect . . . that's the reason I think hot water freezes quicker?
Hey Al have you thought about using plumbing heated tape and run it off your solar panels
O admire all the things you do!! and the experiments too!!!!
I wonder if you construct a plexiglass box around the tire/bowl with hole on the sides so the goats can drink. I think the plexiglass may create a green house affect and make the water a bit warmer . Just a thought.
How many cords of wood do you use during the winters? Interesting test
Al, maybe a test without insulation inside a tyre and the other with the insulation. You already now the container freezes without protection. Love watching your videos, by the by. Merry Christmas to you all.
I love this idea! Also, I’d love to see you do a test to see if hot water freezes quicker. My Mother and I were JUST having this discussion about your video before you said it.
We are new to your channel and have enjoyed each video. We will be trying 3 of your recipes this week 👍🏼
Thanks. Hope you like the recipes
I keep my goats and chickens water thawed by throwing a 20 oz water bottle filled with a very salty water inside. put the lid on shake it and throw it n you will find the water in bucket will not freeze. i was skeptical as well but it works try it..
The hot versus cold water issue is REALLY complicated. If you try, you need to ensure both of them are the same amount of water (smaller amounts of water will freeze faster) and the same type of water (distilled will freeze faster than tap water), etc. And even under pretty strict controls, scientists have seen it go both ways; there's no hard and fast answer. Some times the hot water goes first, other times the cold water does. Evaporation, exact weight, air flow, salt content, all sorts of things can cause it to change.
Also altitude
The water bowl on the ground will drain the heat. What about testing it on top of a styrofoam piece?
In the forties a nd fifties, before frost free freezers on refrigerators, there would be a buildup of ice on the shelf where the ice tray sat. If you put hot water in hour ice tray, it would melt y the tray down into the ice on the shelf, bringing it more into contact t with cold surfaces all around. I have no research, just the thoughts of a 70 yr old gramma. Really enjoy your channel!
thermodynamics, it actually requires more energy to go from liquid to solid (over the point of just liquid to boiling). ∴ delaying the time helps refrain the crystallization. worth the insulation. if needed a little of dissolved mineral and ACV may help also, as will lower the freeze point
What instant thermometer are you using? Thanks for all your info & videos
My baby girl...so sweet.
Al, Yes test the hot and cold water would love to see the out come.
Hi, I would like to copy your 'bowl in the tire.' What size of tire and bowl works? Thanks! Liked and already subscribed.
If you use a metal bowl and hot water would that make it freeze faster or slower?
Try your test in Wyoming, where I am told, it gets down to 15 or 20 or more below zero and see if you still have water or if you, on the other hand, could actually “walk on water“without being divine!