How Westside Gunn And Conductor Williams Inspired Tyler, The Creator To Rap Again | The Formula S2E4
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- The growing discography made by the Griselda founder and the noir-inspired Kansas City producer reflect the way these two visionaries have aligned to create something singular.
Rodney Carmichael | November 19, 2021
Westside Gunn may be a connoisseur of many things - art, fashion, champagne, even pro wrestling - but picking beats is where the man truly earns his self-anointed nickname, the Flygod. Simply put, his ears are impeccable. And when he stumbled across video of a producer named Conductor Williams demo'ing beats on his IG page a couple of years back, he knew he'd struck gold. What Gunn heard struck him differently than the grimy sound he'd made synonymous with Griselda Records. This was symphonic but soulful. Gunn was sold.
"I spent the rest of the day trying to learn Conductor," Gunn remembers. "We reached out to each other and the rest is history."
Conductor has become integral to the sound Gunn has curated for the Buffalo-based, independently-owned Griselda in the two years since they first worked together. And that sound has become one of the most distinct and influential in hip-hop. Conductor's loop-heavy production, dissonant and often devoid of bass, has a way of elevating Gunn's high-pitched barrage. As one-third of The Heartbreakers - the name Gunn calls his supergroup of in-house producers, which also includes Camoflauge Monk and Denny LaFlare - Kansas City native Williams works his magic like a jazz-era sideman, his select tracks providing the perfect accompaniment on albums ranging from Gunn's "Pray For Paris" and Mach-Hommy's "Pray For Haiti" (executive produced by Gunn), to Gunn's recently released double-LP "Hitler Wears Hermes 8."
As two of the newest collaborators featured in this season of The Formula, where we dig deep into joint discographies between rappers and producers, Westside Gunn and Conductor Williams have already made a major impact. "Michael Irvin," only the second song they made together, served as the sonic inspiration for one of the biggest albums of 2021 when Tyler, the Creator rapped over the same beat on "SIR BAUDELAIRE," the opening song from his "Call Me When You Get Lost" LP. In this episode, we get them together in NYC to talk about how they inspire each other and what it feels like to know their music is moving the culture right now.
CREDITS
Host/Series Producer: Rodney Carmichael; Producers: Tsering Bista, Nickolai Hammar; Editor: Nickolai Hammar; Animators: Jackie Lay, Alicia Zheng; Director of Photography: Nickolai Hammar; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Annabel Edwards, Nickolai Hammar, Christopher Parks; Production Assistants: Amna Ijaz, Trisha Pickelhaupt; Art Director: CJ Riculan; Project Coordinator: Erin Register; Legal Adviser: Kimberly Sullivan; Consulting Editors: Jacob Ganz, Sidney Madden; Supervising Producer, Nick Michael; Senior Producer: Abby O'Neill; Managing Editor: Becky Lettenberger; Executive Producers: Anya Grundmann, Keith Jenkins
MUSIC
"Michael Irvin," Westside Gunn, Flygod Is An Awesome God 2 (2020); "Sir Baudelaire (feat. DJ Drama)," Tyler, The Creator, Call Me If You Get Lost (2021); "Rose Water" by DJ Face
#westsidegunn #conductorwilliams #theformula #nprmusic
We need a Westside Gunn tiny desk concert
BRO that would be wildddddddddddddddddddddd
Yoooo fr
Whole griselda needa too
@@jayrivss9859 Benny & Conway have one, but a group one would be great
brooooo that would be lit. Imagine the live adlibs boom boom boom boom!!!!
CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM !!!!!!!!
One of my favorite beat makers🙏🏼
This man is immortal with the beats 🔥🔥🔥
@@SHEABUDDHA no cap brother
One of the best Tags also
Facts!
@hoochiecoochie CONDUCTER WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!!
That Westside Gunn/MF DOOM chain goes hard
Was thinking that right as a I saw it
Factz!
" Look at the Vssssss in the WestsideDOOOOM "
@@munneyadvancefastmunneytod6200R.I.P DOOM 🗣️
Westside Gunn with a live orchestra would be an amazing performance, with Conducter as the conductor!
"Elizabeth" would be a great song for a live orchestra performance.
With a sprinkle of some Roc Marci verses.
@@romanogold82 That, Banana Yacht, and Jimmy Hart
@@REAL6AYO!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
His new track kitchen lights
conductor's production on HWH8 is undefeated, classics
Facts. Mariota's one of my favorite songs period.
Westside Gunn finally smiles and has no longer his psycho gaze. He seems to be chilling now. Good for the bro.
😂
No grill. A rarity
Gunn has a genius artistic vision. 100% advancing the culture at warp speed.
No lies 🎯🎯
We gotta give West his flowers man. Been a fan since Supreme Blientele. Forever my fav MC!🔥🔥
🗣 CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
CONSUCTER💯💯💯
"Ever cook half a brick in an air frier?"
He was in a rush 😂😂😂
Conductor Williams feels like the closest thing to Madlib of the new generation.. very excited to see how he evolves
Big facts!
Chill lol
Man ong i thought he was madlib because of the style and that "Conductor! We have a problem tag!"
You spelled dilla wrong
Nah bro Madlib is incomparable
I was introduced to Westside Gunn by Tyler because when I heard pray for Paris I loved the vibe
you done been sleeping good afternoon
None of us are gonna be able to hear that beat without T voice in our heads saying 'ayo'.
Right lol
i say gangsta grillz every time i hear it💀💀💀
I still hear Conductor more than anything
i hear gunns ayo
i cant listen to T without hearing gunn’s ayo
Conductor on Pray For Haiti was amazing. First beat I think of when I hear his name is Folie Á Deux
🙏one of the best beats oat n I will die on that hill
I love this duo. Gunn is nearly Kanye level for me and Conductor unique style is going to keep pushing him forward. Salute.
SYPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODA
@@guvnordoom1418 What’s good brother! 🙌🏿
I freestyle over your beats all day u got mad talent 💯
you be on this one day
I agree
I’d love to see Daringer on this, his beats are godly
and JLVSN
body bag type beats all day
Idk why daringer wasn't in this first.
Feel like Conway / Daringer is a good pairing, feel like my favorite Daringer beats are with him
Nah put some respect on Conductor’s name. He laces Mach with some fire as well.
i love how we never hear a question asked, but this still feels like a fluid conversation
I definitely think "RIGHT NOW" and "Frank Murphy" are my favorite conductor beats
Frank Murphy was the first time I ever paid attention to conductor. Cuz I HAD NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEAT before
With the exception of the unorthodox beats rza used to make way back in the day ..and madlib and a handful of cats like that
But yea.. FRANK MURPHY is literally a movie .. crazy eerie distorted sample...no drums...the tempo and crackles randomly go in and out ... . looped and chopped with the needle skip on the record .
Literally sounds the score to a horror movie scene. I love that ish
Tbh tho...I really wish they gave Daringer this look instead of conductor ... hes good.... but DARINGER is an integral part of why these guys ARE WHO THEY ARE TO THIS DAY.
Denny La Flare did the beat for right now, one of my favourites too !
Facts 💯 frank murphy got me paying attention to conductor that beat is crazy never heard anything like it
@@LAJP97 word? I thought it was conductor?
@@WelcomeToThe92503 yeaa man checked on genius
@@LAJP97 na...I did too. Lol...I had thought I sent another comment ... where I said I didnt know why I thought he did it
I think its cus I've always thought I heard the conducta tag on it lolll..🤷🏻♂️ .. but ya.. its dope tho
Conductor is a living legend. please give more credit to this guy. you'll sleep so bad.
Conductor may be a relatively new producer but he’s without a doubt one of my favorite producers out rn!
hes in no way new, just new to this scence. hes been making music for the longest
I hope they keep this segment goin; Need to shine a bigger light on producers 🙏🏾
I'm tryna see Mach and Tha God Fahim on this jawn
underrated comment
Hammony!!!!!!
Everything mach does is classic
Michael Irvin introduced me to Conducter and I'm excited to see his credits on any project ever since. 🔥
Conductor has quickly become one of my favourite producers. He just gets better & better every beat. So unique and out the box
Westsidegunn lyrical content is unreal. People cant sleep on his rhyme skeeem. Man. I was a instant fan. Back in 2015 i heard that apollo brown joint and was hooked
Conductor, Conductor, Conductor.
Atmosphere has a song w that sample its called lifter puller. Its a dope beat both versions.
THANK YOU, Ant did a much better job sampling this like a decade ago and now these clowns think they're being unique LOL
@@axioms22 Ha ha yeah Ant makes some fire beats classics.
Ant deserves his flowers
"You don't know me, you just love me"
salute!
I love Conductor's sound it's crisp & theatrical 🔥
Big ups for Kansas City MO and Conductor Williams!
Kc in tha house. I’m repping for the city.
C hec k m y c h annel ou T
NPR did the FLYGOD & Conductor serious justice on this one!
Conductor. He’s special man. His beats are something else.
Need an Apollo Brown one - collab master.
Their stylistically different but on beat head nods were all too perfect
Being that The Conductor is the Deniro to Gunns' Pesci in Goodfellas, lets all hope there's never a scene where Conductor is in a phone booth slammin a phone to pieces 🤣🤣🤣
This proves why Westside gunn is a great producer, his vision.
“We are the Culture we dont even have to talk about it we the ones who they talk about”- FlyGod
*takes a shot everytime Gunn says "You know what im saying"*
*on dialysis for eternity*
Yall are one of the best puzzle pieces in this culture.
Conductor....you crazy man!!!! 🔥🔥🔥
That Michael Irvin Is Fire 🔥 👍🔥
this is the episode i’ve been waiting for all season.
Glad to see npr getting this interview
A great duo. Agreed with the other people, they are underrated. Love them.
Westside is the very man - a hidden talent. Styles are unique. Keep them coming.
I wish you guys showed more songs by the two of them. This is a great exposé for fans that already know them but new fans really don’t have much to go off of besides the one song you play haha
They have plenty of songs together at this point.
Luxury Art Rap🔥🔥🔥
Everytime I come across a fellow South African on one these real hip hop comment sections, I feel less weird. Yizo gaz'lam 👊🏿👊🏿
I like that transition of speakers after writers block 🥶📈
When I first heard conductor I thought it was Madlib. He got a dope sound
Avante-Gangster - definitely using this description and acting like I came up with it
I personally called it esoteric gangsta but I like this a lot better
this might be my favourite duo so far from this series
i have to respect west side gunn's perspective of growing from his entire life experience without any cover ups... and then turning it into orchestra and art and expressive music. i cant even doubt how much i enjoy the music, and i cant doubt how many people here in Buffalo i know that feel the same way.
nothing but endless inspiration ✨️ i needed this in my life thank you FLYGOD and Mr CONDUCTOR
There’s something about Conductor William’s slight pitch shifting that separates him from other producers.
It’s always there. A sense of discord. Slight dissonance.
Beauty.
Thnx for sharing, RIP Villain
conductor and mach hommy too that combo goes crazy
I looove the WSG n Conductor combo ..fire 🔥🔥
Daringer needs to be on this with Conway or Benny
THAT DOOM CHAIN IS INSANE
The Flygod and Conductor, needed this
I finally placed this beat haha Tyler jacked it
Kansas City!! Conductor you on point with the cast iron skillet!!
I would Absolutely love to see a Griselda movie / documentary.
Enjoy !
That DOOM chain is goated
Everybody think they fly but aint nobody flyer u ever cooked a half a brick in the air fryer 😂😂
Real talk the perfect teams, Conductor/ West..Benny/DJ Shay...Conway/Daringer
Dope interview and it’s great to see my city of Kansas City get that shine salute Conductor Williams and WestSide 🔥🔥🔥🔥🙌🏽🙌🏽
This sample is also used on Lifter Puller by Atmosphere.
conductor one of the best producers of the last 2 years
CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
One of the dopest collabs in hip hop. period.
West is the best curator in the game. Including for the other Griselda dudes who he works with from what ive heard. Dude couldve been a fashion designer if the hood didnt make him hustle. But it came full circle and hes made his own aesthetic now basically with his people
I did not know what conductor Williams looked like until now. Feel like a lot of people bout to start hitting him for beats tho, because he really up there with imma go ahead and say Alc cause Conductor that nice to me
conductor the next biggest producer im calling it
Now Conducter has a song with Drake 😭🔥
I first heard the Micheal irving beat by atmosphere and it was called lift puller. But west & conductor killed it
This guys are such an inspiration
Westside Gunn & The Heartbreakers ❤🔥
Conductor is a humble dude. He’s going to go a very long way
When there's a problem, call The Conductor
1:12 I saw the pain in Williams' face and immediately felt how agonizing it is to make that many beats that go to waste.
Nah man, he’s paid af and made timeless classics with a living legend, he’s good lol
Conductor conductor conductor 🖤
Y’all should do one with Nas and hitboy
Pray For Paris is one of the best musical pieces I have ever heard in my life 😃
I always felt the producers is not shown off enough it's always the artist I always felt it should be just as much credit split cause they came together to make the magic of great music 🎶 just my 2¢
that old orchatrea is fire 7:15
Duos: 9th wonder x Rapsody, christo x Jid, hitboy x nas
Wow grateful 😊 for this interview
“We are the culture, we ain’t gotta talk about it, they talk about us.”
I have always said gun has the best beat selection. His ear for beats is amazing.
"CONDUCTOR CONDUCTOR!"
yo fav curator
“I’m just from east side buffalo” said one guy ever
Newest Collaborator? Gunn and Conductor been working for a hot min now
Michael Irvin is a MASTERPIECE
Big up Gunn an Conducta Williams 🙏🏼
Conductor is so humble lol
It’s crazy because every time i hear mike Irving beat i always think that it’s a film noir sound I’m glad that producer felt the same way wow
Conductor had me when I saw the SP606…🎰
Your old droog and edan beats are beautiful too
Over here trying wracking my brain trying to figure out how to make great beats while most of my favourite beats (like this one) are just slowed down loops of old songs
Conductors beats are amazing