No matter one China or two China and thrre China because China is China and Taiwan is Taiwan .China also must obey all United Nations ' Resolutions including UN ' s South China Sea Resolution . Right !
@@vietnguyen4312The 2016 Hague ruled in favor of the Philippines 200 miles EEZ but never ruled who owns the islands in the South China Seas. An EEZ is only sovereign rights but not sovereignty. An EEZ is considered international waters. 12 miles territorial waters is sovereignty.
But everybody has a diplomatic relationship with China agrees that Taiwan is a part of China. Taiwan is constitutionally a part of ROC, the China that has been driven to the island in the unfinished Civil War.
@@Dept246 In simple terms regarding the EEZ, the UNCLOS tribunal ruled that the Philippines had a right of claim but did not definitely specified that the extent of EEZ claim was right. An unfortunate part of the MSM coverage is that it gives the impression that UNCLOS has granted all of the Philippines' claims. Furthermore, the MSM has also downplayed that the Philippines and Vietnam have overlapping claims.
@@dan-bz7dzIrrespective of whether Taiwan is considered a country or not does not automatically cede the island to China. There are no internationally recognized treaties, policies. agreements or even UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China. “UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled in 1971, that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN”. It is true that UN recognition was handed to the CPC as they were the ruling government of China not the ROC . The UN resolution does not state that Taiwan is part of China. Document below: Resolution 2758 (XXVI) THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. Recalling the principles of the Charter of the United Nations. Considering the restoration of the lawful rights of the People's Republic of China is essential both for the protection of the Charter of the United Nations and for the cause that the United Nations must serve under the Charter. Recognizing that the representatives of the Government of the People's Republic of China are the only lawful representatives of China to the United Nations and that the People's Republic of China is one of the five permanent members of the Security Council. Decides to restore all its rights to the People's Republic of China and to recognize the representatives of its Government as the only legitimate representatives of China to the United Nations, and to expel forthwith the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek from the place which they unlawfully occupy at the United Nations and in all the organizations related to it.
Taiwan has never declared independence or held a referendum on independence. The ROC during the Chiang Kai Shek era claimed to be the legitimate of mainland China.
Taiwan not mentioned at all in Resolution 2758 in 1971. and Taiwan reback to China 1945. PRC was not exist when UN was established.why it did named re-solution? because there was no country called Taiwan it is a part of ROC. 2758 shows that ROC was replaced by PRC.
Taiwan have thier own Arm Forces and police and constitution.. judicial system etchtera.. only a sovereign country have a totally automous.. Taiwan is a country.. china let go of Taiwan wen china give them a total autonomy..now china like Russia they also want to reclaim wat they think they loss😂
In the resolution drafted in the UN China doesn't represents the totality of what it meant by China Sovereignty over Taiwan. Taiwan is an independent self governed island so to speak at the time.
The UN recognized Taiwan as part of China. Just as the UN continues to recognize Crimea as part of Ukraine. If Russia did not formally annex Crimea, should Crimea be recognized as an independent self governed island?🙄🙄 The resolution is based on Taiwan being part of China. Taiwan still considers itself as part of China. I understand it can be confusing due to neo-con propaganda misleading people. As recent as 2000-2008, the concept of Taiwan being part of China was well understood in the West.
@@bernardbalquin7641 The ROC during the Chiang Kai Shek era claimed to be the legitimate government of mainland China. Chiang Kai Shek wasn’t interested in Taiwan independence, he only wanted to overthrow the communists and return to power on the mainland.
Circumstances have changed. The two Chinas got two drastically different governance models which are not compatible. Furthermore Taiwan has shown to be the more responsible and mature side in relationship with the world. PRC has shown to be a dangerous, revisionist power that break rules with impunity using theft, coercion and human rights violations. In that sense Taiwan has to be recognized as a distinct country in all world bodies.
The Blues actually tried to return to the UN via the ROC route but it did not get far. In addition to opposition by the Reds, the Blues and Greens were disunited on this issue. The Greens wanted ROT, something which nations that still recognized the ROC did not support.
The UN resolution 2758 treated the Chiang Kai-Shek government as a government in exile. This resolution has no bearing at all with Taiwan and the Taiwanese People. The current government on Taiwan is no longer a Chiang Kai Shek government, so again it’s status is irrelevant to this resolution.
At the ROC National Day celebrations, the current ROC President mentions the ROC as 113 years old. The current government continues to maintain itself as the continuation of the Chiang government. These includes the administrative structure, the flag, the anthem and even the Presidential installation ceremony. The ROC-on-TW also celebrated the 100th anniversary of the Whampoa Academy which was founded on the mainland. The resolution has no bearing on Taiwan because Taiwan being a part of China is not disputed at the UN. Taiwan is represented at the UN by China, in the same way Hokkaido is represented by Japan and Alaska represented by the US.
@@tkm238-d4r That's because if they used the Taiwan flag big bad China would have a temper tantrum. No choice but to cling to ROC, which differentiates Taiwan from PRC. Neither Mao nor Chiang Kai Shek represented the vision of Sun Yat Sen - they only reduced the warring states to 2 main contestants. But as the professor said, times change and laws needs to be revised. Today only Taiwan embodies the principles of government 'for the people by the people', which was the vision of Sun Yat Sen. This is the biggest problem today - China is basically governed by a gang that dragged China through some terrible times that have nothing to do with Taiwan. Time to update old laws to match reality.
@@TPELaoY The DPP Greens who are very good in temper tantrums for the past 30 years never really have a viable idea of what it should be. They hate anything that is related to ROC, including Sun, although they do not mention Sun that much. When the Greens used to moan about the ROC Tricolor Flag, it was suggested perhaps the ROC-on-TW should re-used the earlier 5 color flag. The Greens, seeing that the mood was not in their favor, quickly shut up. Regarding the change in times, the so-called friends of Taiwan do not want to change. The globalist establishment still has not got over 1950. 1950, not 1949, because 200K++ CCP troops crossed the Amrok. They continued to moan about Hong Kong, Tibet & Xinjiang. The Japanese revisionists still claimed anything bad about wartime Japan were so-called CCP Propaganda. Why sort out the Taiwan problem when the problem itself can be used as a battering ram against the CCP? 🙄🙄
So based in my own understanding, Taiwan did not mention in the Chinese resolution in the UN and no Taiwanese representative was present when the resolution was made, along with the fact that it was solely about CCP approval, this indicates that Taiwan is an independent nation. In the short term Resolution 2758 does not include the Formosa island or today's Taiwan.
First of all, it's not called Taiwan. The official name is the Republic of China. Secondly, the US officially does not recognize the ROC as a country. Nobody does.
Wrong many nations trade with taiwan. We recognise the government. We sign agreements with the government of Taiwan. Taiwan has its own currency, which is traded on the international financial markets. Now let's look at the gutless ccp who DOES NOT RESPECT INTERNATIONAL TREATIES EVEN IF THEY SIGN THEM, UNCLOS IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE. THE CCP SETS UP ILLEGAL POLICE STATIONS IN OTHER COUNTRIES DURISTICTION WITHOUT PERMISSION from that COUNTRY. The ccp has ordered the unofficial invasion of countries such as the Philippines, bhutan, Vietnam and even India. China's behaviour as a UN peacekeeping force was a complete embarrassment in South Sudan where they failed to protect innocent refugees by abandoning their posts and running for their own lives against Sudanese war lords. They embassed themselves, their country, and the UN!! Given the wording of the UN charter, i fully support the introduction of the nation of Taiwan into the United Nations. I'm proud that my nation of Australia is looking into the absolute legality of the UN in regards to this matter!! @dan-bz7dz
R.O.C claims one China, which is Taiwan island + P.R.C land. P.R.C claims the otherwise, and the U.N. accepted this. What else to interpret? If Taiwan insisted that she's the sole boss of one China as P.R.C also claim like wise, it's only logical that they both wage a war to decide the winner as it was in the past
Taiwan is an island originally part of China approved by more than 180 countries in the United Nations and cannot be deny! Do the past Chinese brothers have to disown their mother/motherland when they are fighting?🇨🇳🇹🇼
There was ROC, then mainland China seperated itself from ROC by creating PRC, leaving Taiwan as ROC. PRC never had control over Taiwan. The last conqueror of Taiwan was Japan. Taiwan is operating as a independent souvereign country. Chinese people need a visa to enter.
“UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled in 1971, that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN”. It is true that UN recognition was handed to the CPC as they were the ruling government of China not the ROC . The officially written UN resolution does not state that Taiwan is part of China. FACT Therefore as clearly demonstrated above, Taiwan is not part of China.
The original and legal government of mainland China moved to Formosa (Taiwan). The CCP never possessed Formosa/Taiwan. Thus, it can be a legitimate claim that the mainland belongs to Taiwan and not vice versa. Because the original government was certainly in possession of the mainland and Formosa.
@@naekosl3059That logic didn’t stop the PRC from taking back Tibet in 1951, Hong Kong in 1997 and Macau in 1999. The PRC considers themselves as successor government to the ROC and the Qing Dynasty.
What about them? Hawai'i and Texas are fully integrated parts of the United States. They have a strong sense of cultural autonomy. Hawai'i, especially, is in a bit of a quandary because the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawai'i in 1893 was illegal, and the Treaty of Annexation of 1899 is illegitimate because it was made with the illegitimate government of the Republic of Hawai'i. The 1959 statehood referendum was a bit dodgy as well as it only allowed for statehood or continued status as a territory, but not independence. At the same time, the US allows for a robust debate in Hawai'i itself about what exactly its future should be. People openly advocate for independence without facing imprisonment. Most in Hawai'i do not support this option, although there is a fair amount of support for some form of status as a domestic dependent nation for native Hawai'ians. Okinawa is a recognised part of Japan and few want independence. We're not dealing with a territory that has been ruled by its own government, with its own constitution, its own parliament, its own courts, its own currency and its own laws for 75 years and had, previously, been a Japanese colony.
@@Bunnyroo7 By your reasoning, would you recognize Crimea as outside of Ukraine and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus?😊😊 Good point that you mention a TERRITORY. That's right, a territory, not an independent sovereign nation-state. Taiwan is a territory. The equivalent of the nation is the ROC. Many Westerners have been propagandized by the neo-cons and are unaware of the existence of the ROC.
In 1971, many countries were in favor of 2 Chinas - communist and nationalist - but Chiang Kai-shek wanted no part of this. He didn't want to dilute his claim to ALL of China, even though he had lost the civil war on the mainland at that point.
What a silly woman. Hong Kong is also not mentioned in it. Shanghai is also not mentioned in it. Actually even Beijing is not mentioned in it. So her point has a logic problem. More importantly, she is either ignorant or misleading to the fact there were several US backed amendments or corrections defeated before the Pass of 2758. They include Two China Seats (Like North &* South Korea and East & West Germany) , One China and One Taiwan. There was also a failed effort by Saudi Arabia (clearly with US at its back) for Taiwan self-determination. This is the WHOLE Picture of this 2758.
The final draft speaks for itself. There are no internationally recognized treaties, policies. agreements or even UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China.
@@vietnguyen4312 This is simply not true! The international documents about the end of WW II explicitly stated Japan has to return all its colonial gains to their original owners. So Taiwan has to return to China. Japan can only keep its own main islands. These are the foundation of post WW II orders. I am pretty sure Taiwan could not change that. Even US could not change that against PRC. That is why ROC is still outside the UN system.
@@Bunnyroo7 Your Assertion without any evidence and/or argument is the Real Silly One. Because no one here cares what you think. They only cares what it right. So you better prove your assertion!
Members of civil society from around the world engage every day in activities at the UN. Still, Taiwan province’s scientists, technical experts, business persons, artists, educators, students, human rights advocates, and others are blocked from entry and participating in these activities simply because of the ROC passports they hold.
All the bullshit, why they said “restore” means it should be taken by People’s Republic of China rather than Republic of China. When the end of WWII when Japan ceased the occupation in Taiwan, so where is Taiwan should return? It should return to the original before the WWII where the ROC or the Qing Dynasty which ceased to ROC. First principle, Taiwan is part of China whether is PRC or ROC. Second principle, Is the civil war ended? Is there any document between PRC and ROC signed saying PRC ceased the sovereignty of Taiwan to ROC. Or ROC ceased the sovereignty of the mainland to PRC? Therefore, the sovereignty of Taiwan or the mainland still in dispute. The Western has no right to talk about freedom and democracy or human rights. Where is the human rights for Palestine? Where is freedom for Syria? Where is the democracy in Vietnam where you signed a strategic partnership? You have no right to lecture us.
I wish that UN pushes Taiwan to enter the UN. Because this will trigger the national sovereignty law of the PRC and legitimately mainland can use force for national reunification.
A Taiwanese student at Fudan University in Shanghai was recorded punching a teacher on stage at their graduation ceremony on 19 June, 2024, Wednesday. The alleged assailant, surnamed Hsia (夏), was shortlisted as a candidate for the Peking University Health Science Center (BJMU) master’s degree program in April 2024. On 20 June, 2024, Thursday, the university emphasized that it focuses on cultivating students with moral integrity, therefore candidates with criminal convictions and improper statements would not be considered for enrollment. The police apprehended Hsia shortly after, taking him in for questioning. The professor was taken to the hospital where he was reported to have sustained minor injuries. While the motivation behind the attack has not been clearly confirmed, Hsia had posted on social media in January 2024, criticizing the university and expressing that his parents forced him to study in Shanghai against his will. Through Hsia’s statements it is speculated that the dean was the intended target of the attack. Reference: “Taiwanese student punches professor in Shanghai”
Well the way I see it Resolution 2758 verbatim says that the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek are expelled from the United Nations. It does not say that representatives of the Republic of China (Taiwan) are expelled. It only expelled the representatives of Chiang Kai-sheks government. And Chiang Kai-shek has been dead for 49 years. So representatives of the government of the Republic of China (Taiwan) should have seats in the U.N. since they are no representatives of Chiang Kai-shek because he is no longer part of the governement of the Republic of China (Taiwan).
After Chiang Sr's death, his successors including the current President maintain themselves as the continuation of the Chiang gov. Government in this case is not based on 1 person. By your reasoning, when there is a change of POTUS every 4 or 8 years, the US will have re-enter the UN every 4 or 8 years.😊😊
@@tkm238-d4r Thank you for bringing up the US it's great example. The US representatives at the UN are representatives of the USA. They are for example not representative of Abraham Lincoln or Richard Nixon. Ambassadors send by the current government of Taiwan would be representatives of the Republic of China on Taiwan and not representatives of Chiang Kai-shek. The representatives of the Republic of China (Taiwan) from 1971 were representatives of the ROC aswell as representatives of Chiang Kai-shek since he was the head of government at that time. Resolution 2758 explicitly states that the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek are expelled from the UN and not representatives of the Republic of China (Taiwan) which implies that a government of the Republic of China (Taiwan) has a right to send representatives to the UN as long as this government is not run by Chiang Kai-shek.
@@status_quo_post Your argument sounds like nit-picking. An interesting point was that the ROC Blues did try to get back to the UN after 1971. Not sure what argument they used but to the best of my knowledge, not based on ROC gov v Chiang Kai-shek.😁😁 As for the Greens, they were never that concerned about 2758 because they historically rejected the ROC. The Greens only grudgingly recognized the ROC around 1998 so that Chen Shui-bian could run for the ROC Presidency. Since then the Greens tried to get into the UN via some form of indirect ROT route but the UN was seldom a big concern for them. If the Greens maintained the ROC-1st position, they might stood a bit of a chance from Y2K onwards but their ideological hatred for the ROC caused them to squander another 24 years. They probably spent more time dismantling Chiang statues than trying to sort out the diplomatic issues.😊😊 With 50+ years gone, the wider world is not that interested in such nit-picking. Reviving the question of 2758 is a recent issue because the Greens have reluctantly realized there is little international support for ROT. The Greens are good for fighting at the ROC legislature, not for fighting a real war.
I am surprised this US Law Professor does not understand when interpreted a law you not only need to read the text, but also the debates when the law was passed for the Real Intent. In tis sense the defeats of other amendments of 2758, like Two China, One China and One Taiwan, clearly show the PRC's One China Principle is Correct!
Law is as written. That is why so much time is taken to draft it. The PRC legally know they have no sovereignty and are trying to meddle with written international law my friend. There are no internationally recognized treaties, policies. agreements or even UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China. “UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled in 1971, that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN”. It is true that UN recognition was handed to the CPC as they were the ruling government of China not the ROC . The UN resolution does not state that Taiwan is part of China. Document below: Resolution 2758 (XXVI) THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. Recalling the principles of the Charter of the United Nations. Considering the restoration of the lawful rights of the People's Republic of China is essential both for the protection of the Charter of the United Nations and for the cause that the United Nations must serve under the Charter. Recognizing that the representatives of the Government of the People's Republic of China are the only lawful representatives of China to the United Nations and that the People's Republic of China is one of the five permanent members of the Security Council. Decides to restore all its rights to the People's Republic of China and to recognize the representatives of its Government as the only legitimate representatives of China to the United Nations, and to expel forthwith the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek from the place which they unlawfully occupy at the United Nations and in all the organizations related to it.
@@vietnguyen4312 Like I said before any one who knows Law knows that in order to really understand the Real intentions of the Law, they need to learn the debates about the passing of the Law. You do not even know this basic Fact. It just shows how silly your argument is. The position you took already been disproved by this resolution’s voting record. They included the defeat of Two China, one China one Taiwan amendments. This means if you try these again you will be defeated too because PRC is much stronger and well-supported in UN today than 1971. You can deny these facts to yourself. But you could not impact the real world, UN in this case.
@@qingzhou9983 Good day, you can rebut @vietnguyen4312 but do not waste too much time on it. This person is putting the cart before the horse. I have heard such opinions before. They conveniently leave out the part regarding the surrender of Taiwan to ROC, thus presenting a distorted impression that Taiwan has been ruled separately, similar to an external colony. In fact, since 1945, Taiwan is simply a province of China.
@@qingzhou9983 You are clutching at straws my friend. lol The fact is that there are no internationally recognized treaties, policies or UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China. In fact, Taiwan was not even included into the PRC constitution until 1978.
Taiwan is not a country. Taiwan is a province of China. Same as Fujian is a province of China. In history, Taiwan was part of Fujian for more than 200 years. Resolution 2758 is for who represents of China. It's no need to mention Taiwan or Fujian or any provinces of China.
@@user-ausabc2024 I know taiwanese locals and I'm pretty sure one country two system is valid in Taiwan. For that to work the people have to accept it first.
@@adlerzwei Thanks for mentioning 1 Country 2 Systems. Currently it is 1 Country 2 Systems. Either ROC or PRC but not both at the same time. That is what 1 China policy with reference to Taiwan is about.
The Qing who were Manchurian not Chinese had minimal control of Taiwan in fact the Qing only managed to rule less than 20% of the island while the aborigines ruled and controlled over 80% of the island. The Qing created a border in 1750 with rocks which was called the Tu Niu Red Line. The Japanese were the first country to colonise Formosa and create roads and infrastructure.. It was not until 1885 that the island of Formosa first become a province of the Qing Empire. The reason the Qing declared Formosa a Province of the Qing was due to the Japanese encroaching on the island although they had minimal control. This demonstrates that the island of Formosa was a province of China for only 10 years as Japan occupied the island by 1895. The Japanese were the first country to colonise Formosa and create roads and infrastructure..
No matter one China or two China and thrre China because China is China and Taiwan is Taiwan .China also must obey all United Nations ' Resolutions including UN ' s South China Sea Resolution . Right !
And UNCLOS ruling on the Taiwan Strait
@@vietnguyen4312The 2016 Hague ruled in favor of the Philippines 200 miles EEZ but never ruled who owns the islands in the South China Seas. An EEZ is only sovereign rights but not sovereignty. An EEZ is considered international waters. 12 miles territorial waters is sovereignty.
But everybody has a diplomatic relationship with China agrees that Taiwan is a part of China.
Taiwan is constitutionally a part of ROC, the China that has been driven to the island in the unfinished Civil War.
Talking nonsense, Taiwan is call the Republic of China. They have the same clam to South China Sea the 9 dash line.
@@Dept246 In simple terms regarding the EEZ, the UNCLOS tribunal ruled that the Philippines had a right of claim but did not definitely specified that the extent of EEZ claim was right.
An unfortunate part of the MSM coverage is that it gives the impression that UNCLOS has granted all of the Philippines' claims.
Furthermore, the MSM has also downplayed that the Philippines and Vietnam have overlapping claims.
Keep Taiwan free! #freewesttaiwan
Free of US military- great idea
we stand with taiwan country
"country". lol
@@dan-bz7dzIrrespective of whether Taiwan is considered a country or not does not automatically cede the island to China.
There are no internationally recognized treaties, policies. agreements or even UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China.
“UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled in 1971, that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN”. It is true that UN recognition was handed to the CPC as they were the ruling government of China not the ROC . The UN resolution does not state that Taiwan is part of China.
Document below:
Resolution 2758 (XXVI)
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
Recalling the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
Considering the restoration of the lawful rights of the People's Republic of China is essential both for the protection of the Charter of the United Nations and for the cause that the United Nations must serve under the Charter.
Recognizing that the representatives of the Government of the People's Republic of China are the only lawful representatives of China to the United Nations and that the People's Republic of China is one of the five permanent members of the Security Council.
Decides to restore all its rights to the People's Republic of China and to recognize the representatives of its Government as the only legitimate representatives of China to the United Nations, and to expel forthwith the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek from the place which they unlawfully occupy at the United Nations and in all the organizations related to it.
Taiwan has never declared independence or held a referendum on independence. The ROC during the Chiang Kai Shek era claimed to be the legitimate of mainland China.
Good just ask them to declare independence. Chinese cant wait to take taiwan back. But even US has no ⚽⚽
I stand with Taiwan, Province of China
Taiwan not mentioned at all in Resolution 2758 in 1971. and Taiwan reback to China 1945. PRC was not exist when UN was established.why it did named re-solution?
because there was no country called Taiwan it is a part of ROC. 2758 shows that ROC was replaced by PRC.
China Civil War 1.0,,,, PRC (Beijing) is the Winner and RoC (Taipei) is the Losser
Taiwan have thier own Arm Forces and police and constitution.. judicial system etchtera.. only a sovereign country have a totally automous.. Taiwan is a country.. china let go of Taiwan wen china give them a total autonomy..now china like Russia they also want to reclaim wat they think they loss😂
Taiwan is a country!
U.N. should give them a seat as well as the Philippines.
When did they declare independence? The ROC during the Chiang Kai Shek era claimed to be the legitimate government of mainland China.
In the resolution drafted in the UN China doesn't represents the totality of what it meant by China Sovereignty over Taiwan. Taiwan is an independent self governed island so to speak at the time.
The UN recognized Taiwan as part of China. Just as the UN continues to recognize Crimea as part of Ukraine.
If Russia did not formally annex Crimea, should Crimea be recognized as an independent self governed island?🙄🙄
The resolution is based on Taiwan being part of China. Taiwan still considers itself as part of China.
I understand it can be confusing due to neo-con propaganda misleading people. As recent as 2000-2008, the concept of Taiwan being part of China was well understood in the West.
@@bernardbalquin7641 The ROC during the Chiang Kai Shek era claimed to be the legitimate government of mainland China. Chiang Kai Shek wasn’t interested in Taiwan independence, he only wanted to overthrow the communists and return to power on the mainland.
Circumstances have changed. The two Chinas got two drastically different governance models which are not compatible. Furthermore Taiwan has shown to be the more responsible and mature side in relationship with the world. PRC has shown to be a dangerous, revisionist power that break rules with impunity using theft, coercion and human rights violations. In that sense Taiwan has to be recognized as a distinct country in all world bodies.
Taiwan should file a resolution to the UN to become a official country in this world.
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Taiwan has never held a referendum on independence. Some want independence, some want reunification and the majority want to maintain the status quo.
The Blues actually tried to return to the UN via the ROC route but it did not get far. In addition to opposition by the Reds, the Blues and Greens were disunited on this issue.
The Greens wanted ROT, something which nations that still recognized the ROC did not support.
Taiwan island is not a country but a province of China.
The UN resolution 2758 treated the Chiang Kai-Shek government as a government in exile. This resolution has no bearing at all with Taiwan and the Taiwanese People. The current government on Taiwan is no longer a Chiang Kai Shek government, so again it’s status is irrelevant to this resolution.
At the ROC National Day celebrations, the current ROC President mentions the ROC as 113 years old. The current government continues to maintain itself as the continuation of the Chiang government.
These includes the administrative structure, the flag, the anthem and even the Presidential installation ceremony.
The ROC-on-TW also celebrated the 100th anniversary of the Whampoa Academy which was founded on the mainland.
The resolution has no bearing on Taiwan because Taiwan being a part of China is not disputed at the UN. Taiwan is represented at the UN by China, in the same way Hokkaido is represented by Japan and Alaska represented by the US.
@@tkm238-d4r That's because if they used the Taiwan flag big bad China would have a temper tantrum. No choice but to cling to ROC, which differentiates Taiwan from PRC. Neither Mao nor Chiang Kai Shek represented the vision of Sun Yat Sen - they only reduced the warring states to 2 main contestants. But as the professor said, times change and laws needs to be revised. Today only Taiwan embodies the principles of government 'for the people by the people', which was the vision of Sun Yat Sen. This is the biggest problem today - China is basically governed by a gang that dragged China through some terrible times that have nothing to do with Taiwan. Time to update old laws to match reality.
@@TPELaoY The DPP Greens who are very good in temper tantrums for the past 30 years never really have a viable idea of what it should be.
They hate anything that is related to ROC, including Sun, although they do not mention Sun that much.
When the Greens used to moan about the ROC Tricolor Flag, it was suggested perhaps the ROC-on-TW should re-used the earlier 5 color flag. The Greens, seeing that the mood was not in their favor, quickly shut up.
Regarding the change in times, the so-called friends of Taiwan do not want to change.
The globalist establishment still has not got over 1950. 1950, not 1949, because 200K++ CCP troops crossed the Amrok.
They continued to moan about Hong Kong, Tibet & Xinjiang. The Japanese revisionists still claimed anything bad about wartime Japan were so-called CCP Propaganda.
Why sort out the Taiwan problem when the problem itself can be used as a battering ram against the CCP? 🙄🙄
Why not? SHOULD Have been a long time ago!
So based in my own understanding, Taiwan did not mention in the Chinese resolution in the UN and no Taiwanese representative was present when the resolution was made, along with the fact that it was solely about CCP approval, this indicates that Taiwan is an independent nation. In the short term Resolution 2758 does not include the Formosa island or today's Taiwan.
First of all, it's not called Taiwan. The official name is the Republic of China. Secondly, the US officially does not recognize the ROC as a country. Nobody does.
Wrong many nations trade with taiwan. We recognise the government. We sign agreements with the government of Taiwan. Taiwan has its own currency, which is traded on the international financial markets.
Now let's look at the gutless ccp who DOES NOT RESPECT INTERNATIONAL TREATIES EVEN IF THEY SIGN THEM, UNCLOS IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE. THE CCP SETS UP ILLEGAL POLICE STATIONS IN OTHER COUNTRIES DURISTICTION WITHOUT PERMISSION from that COUNTRY. The ccp has ordered the unofficial invasion of countries such as the Philippines, bhutan, Vietnam and even India. China's behaviour as a UN peacekeeping force was a complete embarrassment in South Sudan where they failed to protect innocent refugees by abandoning their posts and running for their own lives against Sudanese war lords. They embassed themselves, their country, and the UN!!
Given the wording of the UN charter, i fully support the introduction of the nation of Taiwan into the United Nations. I'm proud that my nation of Australia is looking into the absolute legality of the UN in regards to this matter!! @dan-bz7dz
@@dan-bz7dz It's not because the US thinks Taiwan should be under communism. The US wants a peaceful resolution without one side attacking the other.
@@dan-bz7dz
No one does?
Vatican begs to differ.
The ROC also claims to be the legitimate government of mainland China. Taiwan has never declared independence or held a referendum on independence.
Support😊😊 Taiwan a seat in UN.
While Xi Jinping is crying.
R.O.C claims one China, which is Taiwan island + P.R.C land. P.R.C claims the otherwise, and the U.N. accepted this. What else to interpret? If Taiwan insisted that she's the sole boss of one China as P.R.C also claim like wise, it's only logical that they both wage a war to decide the winner as it was in the past
Taiwan is an island originally part of China approved by more than 180 countries in the United Nations and cannot be deny! Do the past Chinese brothers have to disown their mother/motherland when they are fighting?🇨🇳🇹🇼
The u.n mean .
there are no two China on the planet Earth .
One China PROC, one Taiwan ROC , two different countries
@@moonshinesun9282Only your opinion or interpretation. Others see things differently and they hold a gun.
@@moonshinesun9282Naawww
At least the island saves membership fees
There was ROC, then mainland China seperated itself from ROC by creating PRC, leaving Taiwan as ROC. PRC never had control over Taiwan. The last conqueror of Taiwan was Japan. Taiwan is operating as a independent souvereign country. Chinese people need a visa to enter.
Just as the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus？ 😊😊
UN officials always say that Taiwan is a provence of PRC based on 2758 Resolution and that USA proposal defeated.
“UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled in 1971, that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN”. It is true that UN recognition was handed to the CPC as they were the ruling government of China not the ROC .
The officially written UN resolution does not state that Taiwan is part of China. FACT Therefore as clearly demonstrated above, Taiwan is not part of China.
By the same token, can Shanghai or the state of California have their seats in UN?
Stop talking and claim independent already.
The original and legal government of mainland China moved to Formosa (Taiwan). The CCP never possessed Formosa/Taiwan. Thus, it can be a legitimate claim that the mainland belongs to Taiwan and not vice versa. Because the original government was certainly in possession of the mainland and Formosa.
@@naekosl3059That logic didn’t stop the PRC from taking back Tibet in 1951, Hong Kong in 1997 and Macau in 1999. The PRC considers themselves as successor government to the ROC and the Qing Dynasty.
@@Dept246 Agree. Furthermore the wider world recognized PRC as the successor.
How about Hawaii? Texas? Okinawa?
What about them? Hawai'i and Texas are fully integrated parts of the United States. They have a strong sense of cultural autonomy. Hawai'i, especially, is in a bit of a quandary because the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawai'i in 1893 was illegal, and the Treaty of Annexation of 1899 is illegitimate because it was made with the illegitimate government of the Republic of Hawai'i. The 1959 statehood referendum was a bit dodgy as well as it only allowed for statehood or continued status as a territory, but not independence. At the same time, the US allows for a robust debate in Hawai'i itself about what exactly its future should be. People openly advocate for independence without facing imprisonment. Most in Hawai'i do not support this option, although there is a fair amount of support for some form of status as a domestic dependent nation for native Hawai'ians. Okinawa is a recognised part of Japan and few want independence. We're not dealing with a territory that has been ruled by its own government, with its own constitution, its own parliament, its own courts, its own currency and its own laws for 75 years and had, previously, been a Japanese colony.
@@Bunnyroo7 By your reasoning, would you recognize Crimea as outside of Ukraine and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus?😊😊
Good point that you mention a TERRITORY. That's right, a territory, not an independent sovereign nation-state.
Taiwan is a territory. The equivalent of the nation is the ROC.
Many Westerners have been propagandized by the neo-cons and are unaware of the existence of the ROC.
In 1971, many countries were in favor of 2 Chinas - communist and nationalist - but Chiang Kai-shek wanted no part of this. He didn't want to dilute his claim to ALL of China, even though he had lost the civil war on the mainland at that point.
Republic of south vientma and Taiwan are United ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
There is no point to be regret now-----
What a silly woman. Hong Kong is also not mentioned in it. Shanghai is also not mentioned in it. Actually even Beijing is not mentioned in it. So her point has a logic problem.
More importantly, she is either ignorant or misleading to the fact there were several US backed amendments or corrections defeated before the Pass of 2758. They include Two China Seats (Like North &* South Korea and East & West Germany) , One China and One Taiwan. There was also a failed effort by Saudi Arabia (clearly with US at its back) for Taiwan self-determination.
This is the WHOLE Picture of this 2758.
What a silly troll you are.
The final draft speaks for itself.
There are no internationally recognized treaties, policies. agreements or even UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China.
@@vietnguyen4312
This is simply not true! The international documents about the end of WW II explicitly stated Japan has to return all its colonial gains to their original owners. So Taiwan has to return to China. Japan can only keep its own main islands. These are the foundation of post WW II orders. I am pretty sure Taiwan could not change that. Even US could not change that against PRC. That is why ROC is still outside the UN system.
@@Bunnyroo7
Your Assertion without any evidence and/or argument is the Real Silly One. Because no one here cares what you think. They only cares what it right. So you better prove your assertion!
@@qingzhou9983 ROC was founded in 1911, WWII ended in 1944, and the PRC was established in 1949. Please don't get confused.
I think states use taiwan to talk about usa federal government and state government who represent the Americans people
Two westerner try to justified 1 China policy in UN🤭🤔either letting them both dealing it out.😂
Members of civil society from around the world engage every day in activities at the UN. Still, Taiwan province’s scientists, technical experts, business persons, artists, educators, students, human rights advocates, and others are blocked from entry and participating in these activities simply because of the ROC passports they hold.
It is unquestionable.
All the bullshit, why they said “restore” means it should be taken by People’s Republic of China rather than Republic of China. When the end of WWII when Japan ceased the occupation in Taiwan, so where is Taiwan should return? It should return to the original before the WWII where the ROC or the Qing Dynasty which ceased to ROC.
First principle, Taiwan is part of China whether is PRC or ROC.
Second principle, Is the civil war ended? Is there any document between PRC and ROC signed saying PRC ceased the sovereignty of Taiwan to ROC. Or ROC ceased the sovereignty of the mainland to PRC?
Therefore, the sovereignty of Taiwan or the mainland still in dispute.
The Western has no right to talk about freedom and democracy or human rights. Where is the human rights for Palestine? Where is freedom for Syria? Where is the democracy in Vietnam where you signed a strategic partnership? You have no right to lecture us.
I wish that UN pushes Taiwan to enter the UN. Because this will trigger the national sovereignty law of the PRC and legitimately mainland can use force for national reunification.
A Taiwanese student at Fudan University in Shanghai was recorded punching a teacher on stage at their graduation ceremony on 19 June, 2024, Wednesday.
The alleged assailant, surnamed Hsia (夏), was shortlisted as a candidate for the Peking University Health Science Center (BJMU) master’s degree program in April 2024. On 20 June, 2024, Thursday, the university emphasized that it focuses on cultivating students with moral integrity, therefore candidates with criminal convictions and improper statements would not be considered for enrollment.
The police apprehended Hsia shortly after, taking him in for questioning. The professor was taken to the hospital where he was reported to have sustained minor injuries.
While the motivation behind the attack has not been clearly confirmed, Hsia had posted on social media in January 2024, criticizing the university and expressing that his parents forced him to study in Shanghai against his will. Through Hsia’s statements it is speculated that the dean was the intended target of the attack.
Reference: “Taiwanese student punches professor in Shanghai”
Well the way I see it Resolution 2758 verbatim says that the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek are expelled from the United Nations. It does not say that representatives of the Republic of China (Taiwan) are expelled. It only expelled the representatives of Chiang Kai-sheks government. And Chiang Kai-shek has been dead for 49 years. So representatives of the government of the Republic of China (Taiwan) should have seats in the U.N. since they are no representatives of Chiang Kai-shek because he is no longer part of the governement of the Republic of China (Taiwan).
After Chiang Sr's death, his successors including the current President maintain themselves as the continuation of the Chiang gov.
Government in this case is not based on 1 person.
By your reasoning, when there is a change of POTUS every 4 or 8 years, the US will have re-enter the UN every 4 or 8 years.😊😊
@@tkm238-d4r Thank you for bringing up the US it's great example. The US representatives at the UN are representatives of the USA. They are for example not representative of Abraham Lincoln or Richard Nixon. Ambassadors send by the current government of Taiwan would be representatives of the Republic of China on Taiwan and not representatives of Chiang Kai-shek. The representatives of the Republic of China (Taiwan) from 1971 were representatives of the ROC aswell as representatives of Chiang Kai-shek since he was the head of government at that time. Resolution 2758 explicitly states that the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek are expelled from the UN and not representatives of the Republic of China (Taiwan) which implies that a government of the Republic of China (Taiwan) has a right to send representatives to the UN as long as this government is not run by Chiang Kai-shek.
@@status_quo_post Your argument sounds like nit-picking.
An interesting point was that the ROC Blues did try to get back to the UN after 1971. Not sure what argument they used but to the best of my knowledge, not based on ROC gov v Chiang Kai-shek.😁😁
As for the Greens, they were never that concerned about 2758 because they historically rejected the ROC.
The Greens only grudgingly recognized the ROC around 1998 so that Chen Shui-bian could run for the ROC Presidency.
Since then the Greens tried to get into the UN via some form of indirect ROT route but the UN was seldom a big concern for them.
If the Greens maintained the ROC-1st position, they might stood a bit of a chance from Y2K onwards but their ideological hatred for the ROC caused them to squander another 24 years.
They probably spent more time dismantling Chiang statues than trying to sort out the diplomatic issues.😊😊
With 50+ years gone, the wider world is not that interested in such nit-picking.
Reviving the question of 2758 is a recent issue because the Greens have reluctantly realized there is little international support for ROT.
The Greens are good for fighting at the ROC legislature, not for fighting a real war.
@@status_quo_postWhat a spin 😂. You are better than the lady professor.
I am surprised this US Law Professor does not understand when interpreted a law you not only need to read the text, but also the debates when the law was passed for the Real Intent. In tis sense the defeats of other amendments of 2758, like Two China, One China and One Taiwan, clearly show the PRC's One China Principle is Correct!
Law is as written. That is why so much time is taken to draft it.
The PRC legally know they have no sovereignty and are trying to meddle with written international law my friend.
There are no internationally recognized treaties, policies. agreements or even UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China.
“UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled in 1971, that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN”. It is true that UN recognition was handed to the CPC as they were the ruling government of China not the ROC . The UN resolution does not state that Taiwan is part of China.
Document below:
Resolution 2758 (XXVI)
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
Recalling the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
Considering the restoration of the lawful rights of the People's Republic of China is essential both for the protection of the Charter of the United Nations and for the cause that the United Nations must serve under the Charter.
Recognizing that the representatives of the Government of the People's Republic of China are the only lawful representatives of China to the United Nations and that the People's Republic of China is one of the five permanent members of the Security Council.
Decides to restore all its rights to the People's Republic of China and to recognize the representatives of its Government as the only legitimate representatives of China to the United Nations, and to expel forthwith the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek from the place which they unlawfully occupy at the United Nations and in all the organizations related to it.
@@vietnguyen4312
Like I said before any one who knows Law knows that in order to really understand the Real intentions of the Law, they need to learn the debates about the passing of the Law.
You do not even know this basic Fact. It just shows how silly your argument is.
The position you took already been disproved by this resolution’s voting record. They included the defeat of Two China, one China one Taiwan amendments. This means if you try these again you will be defeated too because PRC is much stronger and well-supported in UN today than 1971.
You can deny these facts to yourself. But you could not impact the real world, UN in this case.
@@qingzhou9983 Good day, you can rebut @vietnguyen4312 but do not waste too much time on it. This person is putting the cart before the horse.
I have heard such opinions before. They conveniently leave out the part regarding the surrender of Taiwan to ROC, thus presenting a distorted impression that Taiwan has been ruled separately, similar to an external colony.
In fact, since 1945, Taiwan is simply a province of China.
@@tkm238-d4r
Thanks.
I know.
I just rebuttal them one point at a time.
@@qingzhou9983 You are clutching at straws my friend. lol
The fact is that there are no internationally recognized treaties, policies or UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China. In fact, Taiwan was not even included into the PRC constitution until 1978.
Taiwan is not a country. Taiwan is a province of China. Same as Fujian is a province of China. In history, Taiwan was part of Fujian for more than 200 years. Resolution 2758 is for who represents of China. It's no need to mention Taiwan or Fujian or any provinces of China.
Should I go to the PRC embassy and ask for a Visa to go to Taiwan? 🤔
@@adlerzwei Currently, One China two systems. You'll get visa from ROC system to visit Taiwan and some islands.
@@user-ausabc2024 I know taiwanese locals and I'm pretty sure one country two system is valid in Taiwan. For that to work the people have to accept it first.
@@adlerzwei Thanks for mentioning 1 Country 2 Systems. Currently it is 1 Country 2 Systems. Either ROC or PRC but not both at the same time. That is what 1 China policy with reference to Taiwan is about.
The Qing who were Manchurian not Chinese had minimal control of Taiwan in fact the Qing only managed to rule less than 20% of the island while the aborigines ruled and controlled over 80% of the island. The Qing created a border in 1750 with rocks which was called the Tu Niu Red Line. The Japanese were the first country to colonise Formosa and create roads and infrastructure..
It was not until 1885 that the island of Formosa first become a province of the Qing Empire. The reason the Qing declared Formosa a Province of the Qing was due to the Japanese encroaching on the island although they had minimal control.
This demonstrates that the island of Formosa was a province of China for only 10 years as Japan occupied the island by 1895.
The Japanese were the first country to colonise Formosa and create roads and infrastructure..
One china policy is a HUGE MESS to the world.....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Beijing shanghai also not be mentioned 😂