not like this. while i HAVE experimented with the volca beats sync out into the juno 60 and it worked but there was no way to set the clock to anything but 16ths. (well there was , but it involved using the 707's clk out into the volca's sync in and then out to the juno, essentially using the volca's sync out as a sync thru, and then still limited to 8ths and 16ths taking the option of getting intertesting patterns away) but since the microkorg has midi thru and a built in "programable" arpeggiator you could clock the microkorg with an external clock and send the midi through into the volca. it'd be in sync, but thered have to be a master clock somewhere as the microkorg doesnt send midi clock out (that i know of, feel freee to correct me if im wrong)i'm not sure, but it's also very likely that the volca beats can be modded for midi clock out , in which case you'd just send the midi out into the microkorg. the microkorg can only be clocked externally by midi.
AIDS arrived on the scene in 1981, and Chernobyl blew up in 1986. The 1980s weren't all honey and sunshine. Our government (USA) tried to tell us that catchup was a vegetable, remember? Some lovely music was being made back then, however. "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" was released in 1983.
I don't have much in the way of analog gear, but these videos are still fascinating. Your tutorials are still quite educational, and the beats you demonstrate are sooooo juicy. Thanks for doing what you do :)
Hi. Caught this Video the other day and tried to emulate the same process with a TR-8 and Bass station 2 but to no avail. I used MIDI and programmed the RS to drive the Bass Station 2, which worked, but when using the other drums of the TR8 it changed the output of the BS2. This is of course because the MIDI output of the TR8 is global and not assigned strictly to the RS which does not have its own output. Does anyone have any workarounds for this?
Dear Sir - i've been mucking around with softsynths for so long, i had forgotten how amazing real analog sounds. But, since things like your Juno are so hard to acquire/expensive, have you ever found anything less expensive that has that sound? It's weird, but i can listen to softsynths and 'virtual analog' and all that, and they sound 'good'... but when i hear real analog, it gives that 'scrunch-up your face feeling' and takes me back to when music was so powerful.....
Been hearing some good things about and from Roland's little JU-06A. It's got the sounds (digitally simulated but quite good) and has the classic Juno controls layout, albeit scaled down to "boutique" size. I think I'd probably take that over an antique hardware Juno 60 or 106. Those beasts cost too much these days, they are more prone to crankiness and breakdown than a new one, and I don't have enough room in my studio for a classic 60 or 106. I can make room for a JU-06A though.
@@SynthManiaDotCom There is this elegance in the simplicity of this technique and technology and is so appealing to me. We have so many bells and whistles now with our DAWs but discovering this stuff through you, I kinda prefer the simple workflows. :)
Hello! SynthMania can I use my TR-808 and my Roland XP-80 with this same hookup? I see the 808 have a CB CP and AC trigger out. And the XP-80 just have a click out 1/4 inch hook up.
Hey Synthmania community! Amazing videos and so informative, would anybody know how to re create this effect using roland legendary vst series? the daw of choice is ableton, any help would be great!,, thanks Synthmania! Always amazing content and thank you for taking your time to share your knowledge across all of your videos! 🎹🎶
Pietro, grazie. Non sei il primo che mi chiede di scrivere un libro, e sto contemplando la possibilita' di farlo... un abbraccio altrettanto a te, e salutami la bella Milano!
Wicked video and love the channel. This actually inspired me to get a JU06a and TR-09. I’ve managed to setup them up so the TR-09 triggers the sequencer, but I can’t for the life of me work out how to get it to trigger the arpeggiator. Do you or anyone on this thread have any advise? Thanks!
A great video which gave the most important hint composing 80s synth songs. Triggering the bassline by the rimshot. So simple, but helps me to produce interesting basslines. Thanks for this SynthMania.
This is the kind of sound i will never get bored of... I'm less impressed by the sounds of the house/techno of the 90's. The only thing I liked back in the late nineties were the sounds of trip-hop music ;-) Please keep on posting tracks with the 80's style, italo-disco, new wave and so on ! ;-)
Question for you - on my MD-8, it doesn't isolate the MIDI channel. Any note sent over MIDI to the MD-8 is played on the Juno-60 regardless of what channel the MD-8 is set to or what channel the note is sent on. So, for instance, trying to use a Beatstep pro to control a TR-8, Juno-60 and a MoPho for the bass, the Juno plays all the notes meant for all 3 instead of just the lead line; I can't isolate a channel for triggering just the Juno. Does your MD-8 behave this way? Or is mine broken?
A quick question, can you achieve the same effect with modern synths so that it follows the rim shot or drum pattern and the keyboard will play the bass line?
It's interesting that the pattern at 3:51 reminds me of a song called 'Thinking About Your Love', by Skipworth and Turner, 1985, they used that drum pattern for their tune which had a soul/disco feel. Still intrigues me how a pattern can be used with such variety as it sounds totally different in the pop examples you showed.
Love this demo as much as your others, Paulo. Too bad this configuration can't be achieved using either of my Roland synthesizers (JX-8p and VR-09), neither of which has an arpeggiator or clock inputs. I do have a microKorg XL and a Yamaha RX5 (missing its power supply). Could they be used to emulate this configuration?
Hi there , i wish to trigger from my tr09 ( trigger out ) rim shot to my moog little phatty . But I do not have a input arpeggiator connectivity . Any advice if possible ? Many thanks . Great video as always
SynthMania Sorry, typo. I meant the original 1982 Juno-6. I've checked it out and it's the same deal as the 60 and synchs with the trig out from the 707. Thanks!
Lovely analog warmth and groove; thanks. I think I'll subscribe. Time to bring up the DW-8000 from the basement, and I look forward to your programming tutorial. Now to figure out how to get a similar pulse arpeggiation for a Juno DS, through MIDI... (And actually you were using a 909 on the previous video, but I'm splitting digital hairs. :)
It may be 80s style BUT I just love it still, and the technology shown here, fantastic tutorial/s and thank you so much for sharing. Now where's that synth?
I love your video’s . Wish you would do some John Foxx on an Ody with a CR78. 🙏 Sure I’ve read you love his work. I’m 57 and it was massive for me in my teens. Kind regards
Thank you! Yes, definitely will feature some Ultravox style in the near future - yes, big influence on me too - I do plan to get a CR-78 hopefully this year early next year.
I wonder why he narrows it down to the 1980s w/ the arppeggiators man Ive been using clocks and arps since the dawn of them and they don’t sound 80s only if I want them to, in fact they sound more futuristic . Now don’t get me wrong I happen to love the 80s
David - not narrowing down... it's just because the title of this video is "1980s Synth Bass Arpeggio Techniques" as the viewers very often ask me to post material about the '80s. Of course you can use arpeggiators for music of other styles / eras...
Excellent video! I wish I saw this video 2 years ago when you started me into synthesizers. :) That's ok though, you are always helpful in answering all my questions. Now that I've learned to program the MSQ-700 I hardly use the arppegiator for more than just noodling. :) Thanks for all your support over the years. Take care, Sam.
Hey Paolo, excellent arp tutorial, would you be interested in teaching a one on one workshop on italo disco? I've got a nice budget and would love to spend it on learning directly from you. Let me know?
Hi, Abel, regrettably right now I'm working on two other projects and don't have the bandwidth for a one one tutorial.. private message me in a couple of months or so and I should have more time available. In the meantime, if you have a specific (the more specific, the better) request, I'll be happy to try and make a video about it
I need to drag that 1974 Minimoog out of the closet. Also that Ensoniq ESQ-1 and my old DX7 and TX modules. But none of them sound as warm as my 1963 Hammond B3 and Leslie. I also have a Roland RD700GX which is a versatile stage unit, but weighs a ton and has awful piano samples. Who wants to buy it?
Hey... thanks for the explanation! (and for including my original question in the video) I have two Juno 60s and have since attempted a similar method using rimshots from other sources with mixed results. I ended up getting one of those Valpower MIDI-DCB units after watching your review. Thanks again:)
I just finished understanding how to run the arpeggiator of the DW8000 from my Roland R5, it is sooo much fun! It was your vid with the DW8000 and the dx7 that made me sit down and read my manuals.
Love this channel, learnt so much from here. Can this be done with a synth that does not have an arpeggio function? I have a Roland boutique TR-09 and an SE1X mono synth....
8:06 The TR-707 (rimshot trigger out) cabled to the Juno-60 (arpeggio clock in) allows for irregular patterns not just straight 1/8s 1/16s. The built-in arpeggiator plugins in Logic Pro X seem only to support regular patterns with a rate knob to specify the length of notes. It would be amazing if we could create a rimshot drum synth track with any step pattern and have an instrument track arpeggiator sync to that rimshot track as trigger. Some of the workflows on old gear are so intuitive and inspiring. edit: There is a way in LPX for Alchemy go to the ARP tab enable the ARP mode then change step/multi, or for other software instruments add an ARP midi FX and change from live to grid and enter the steps just like you would with rimshots on the TR-707 and choose a note order. Lots of mouse clicking isn't nearly as fun or easy as using pads on a drum machine but it can be done.
i love it ! i have a TR626, but unfortunately my synths don't have an arpegiator trigger IN ( D50 - DX7 - EMU II, MT32 - Kurzweil K1000 .. ) . is there another way to do just the same ?
I have to admit, I have an affinity towards '80's music, so I thoroughly enjoyed (both watching and listening to) this here tutorial. Sadly, I don't own a Roland Juno or a TR-707. I have a few iOS synths, plus an old Roland M-VS1 module and Arturia Keystep. I don't suppose you'd have any recommendations for equipment like that? Yeah, maybe I should save up more money and invest in something better (?).
At 2:09 you talk about the rim trigger out. Before watching closely, I had assumed that you were clocking the sequencer using the individual audio output for the rim shot. Now I'm guessing an audio signal wouldn't work, because Trigger implies something like a 5V level. Have I got that right? How many drum machines offer a trigger out for this purpose? Is this unique to a TR-707, or a handful of drum machine models, or is it a very common thing?
This is great. Nice trip down memory lane here. I had a similar technique that I used with my 106 and TR 505 back in 1988. I thought I was a genius when I figured it out.
I picked up a DW-8000 a while ago and I've been fiddling with it for a while, but I've never been able to program sounds as lush as your chord tones. Do have any tips or resources on how to properly program the 8000? Thanks for the sick video by the way, I love this channel!
Amazing Lesson. Now I know how they did it in the 80's. One question: The best arpeggios for me were the one from Hypnotic Tango (My mine) and the baseline from Koto (Visitors). Can you illuminate us with one lesson with one of them? Thank you very much.
I don't know if I came in to see this video before. I kept thinking you bring back that aura of the 80's every time I hear you play. It's so incredible what those instruments can do. It's like the music never stopped. I can remember what I enjoyed the most of the 80's was the synths and the sounds that they produced. When I hear it from your channel it's like stepping back in time. I get very nostalgic when I hear you play. I'm glad to listen to your tutorials. I do hope this type of music will make a come back. I miss it very much. Thank you so much for your tutorials. They are very informative and very educational.
THIS is one of the reasons i have 2 tr 707's people ask "why do you have 2 707's when you also have a drumtraks ? " because i have more than one synth with arpeggio clock in , and i'd like them to have differing rythm patterns. the clik out on the drumtracks only sends the trigger in what ever time the beat is in.. well i "guess" I COULD just run the arppegio with the rim out on the DT now that i think of it .. anyhow sweet sounding stuff, man. inspiring and informative.
Another great educational video demo'd & explained very well. It sure helps me out viewing your vids-understanding how it all fits/works together. Getting back to music after a brief 35 years away due to career & profession demands. :)
no, if you use more then one note (chords) then with midi it begins new with the first note. The new roland boutiques TR-09 TR08 have trigger outs, TB-03 and SH-01a have trigger ins....
1st thanks for all your great videos. Would a midi connection from my Boss DR880 machine to my Arturia Keystep control the clock in the same way as you control the Juno?
Brilliant, that riff at 5:19 sounds like your track 'perfect life' - one of my favourites :-) Modern synths just can't replicate that Juno 60/6 bass sound, thanks for sharing SM ;/) ps - I don't suppose you'd share the patch from the UltraNova lead sound on 'perfect life' would you ?
Thank *you very much for watching! The lead on the UltraNova was a stock patch from the factory, I forget the name of it at the moment, but if you download the original sysex you will find it in there
ive also wondered about if sophie and peter johnston more complex bass lines where done this way. like on the song torn open. maybe was just midi and syncing to the grid at that point though.
great videos. After watching the first 80's Arpeggio video, I tried doing it myself. I do own a Juno 60, but do NOT have any of the TR drums machine that have the sync. FYI, I just happen to also own a Novation Basstation rack that came out in late 90's which happens to have CV. I use my DAW which is Digital Performer (but this works with anyone of them). I found a patch on the Basstation that is VERY percussive with quick hit. I programmed the DAW to play the Basstation on the Midi. The Basstation has a audio out and I also used a 1/4 plug for CV out. I am able to first hear the Audio out and made it even more percussive, kinda like the RIM or cowbell on the TR707. I then muted the audio and the CV out of the Bass Station then played into the Arpeggio Clock In 1/4 on back of the Juno 60. This is how I am able to mimic that 80's arpeggio with my BELOVED Juno 60.
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This channel is bliss.
Way too kind, thank you very much !!
not like this. while i HAVE experimented with the volca beats sync out into the juno 60 and it worked but there was no way to set the clock to anything but 16ths. (well there was , but it involved using the 707's clk out into the volca's sync in and then out to the juno, essentially using the volca's sync out as a sync thru, and then still limited to 8ths and 16ths taking the option of getting intertesting patterns away) but since the microkorg has midi thru and a built in "programable" arpeggiator you could clock the microkorg with an external clock and send the midi through into the volca. it'd be in sync, but thered have to be a master clock somewhere as the microkorg doesnt send midi clock out (that i know of, feel freee to correct me if im wrong)i'm not sure, but it's also very likely that the volca beats can be modded for midi clock out , in which case you'd just send the midi out into the microkorg. the microkorg can only be clocked externally by midi.
People are getting weird in these comments...
Why 1980's is so beautiful and romantic? Thanks Paolo.
there was also AIDS and Chernobyl
Some shockin' hairstyles also........ha ha.
SERIOUSLY
AIDS arrived on the scene in 1981, and Chernobyl blew up in 1986. The 1980s weren't all honey and sunshine. Our government (USA) tried to tell us that catchup was a vegetable, remember? Some lovely music was being made back then, however. "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" was released in 1983.
OMFG... to recreate this sounds with DAW is much more complicated than
this connected synth and drum machine.... holy crap :D
I used to do this with a Roland 626 and an Akai S01. I'd write everything in drum patterns, including melodies. Really good fun.
Would love to see how you recommend all these 80s triggering, arp and stuttering techniques with VSTs, a DAW or modern gear that only has MIDI.
I don't have much in the way of analog gear, but these videos are still fascinating. Your tutorials are still quite educational, and the beats you demonstrate are sooooo juicy. Thanks for doing what you do :)
I just love your videos! I feel the need to create 80's disco Italo
07:17 This synth-wave style reminds me of "Lost Years 1984" 🤩
Why dose this sound remind me of Scarface lol
Just discovered my dr 220 has a Rim trig out. now looking which synth to hook up and test. :-)
Hi. Caught this Video the other day and tried to emulate the same process with a TR-8 and Bass station 2 but to no avail. I used MIDI and programmed the RS to drive the Bass Station 2, which worked, but when using the other drums of the TR8 it changed the output of the BS2. This is of course because the MIDI output of the TR8 is global and not assigned strictly to the RS which does not have its own output. Does anyone have any workarounds for this?
Do you use a compressor? What gear is used to record? The sound is really nice and dynamic.
I’m trying to figure out the equivalent of the trigger and the apergiator in .. on Morden midi or synth ...
Dear Sir - i've been mucking around with softsynths for so long, i had forgotten how amazing real analog sounds. But, since things like your Juno are so hard to acquire/expensive, have you ever found anything less expensive that has that sound? It's weird, but i can listen to softsynths and 'virtual analog' and all that, and they sound 'good'... but when i hear real analog, it gives that 'scrunch-up your face feeling' and takes me back to when music was so powerful.....
Simply pick a mono analog synth like the microbrute and some ambiant effect and you're all set for life.
Been hearing some good things about and from Roland's little JU-06A. It's got the sounds (digitally simulated but quite good) and has the classic Juno controls layout, albeit scaled down to "boutique" size. I think I'd probably take that over an antique hardware Juno 60 or 106. Those beasts cost too much these days, they are more prone to crankiness and breakdown than a new one, and I don't have enough room in my studio for a classic 60 or 106. I can make room for a JU-06A though.
What an AMAZING technique!! ❤ is this unique to the Juno 60? I don’t believe all synths have an arp clock trigger.
Several synths of the era had it - These days, you can accomplish the same thing with MIDI
@@SynthManiaDotCom There is this elegance in the simplicity of this technique and technology and is so appealing to me. We have so many bells and whistles now with our DAWs but discovering this stuff through you, I kinda prefer the simple workflows. :)
Thanks Paolo, as always, both interesting & extremely helpful for those of us (attempting!) to make 80s/90s synth music.
Dude you're a blessing to the synth music makers out there!
Hello! SynthMania can I use my TR-808 and my Roland XP-80 with this same hookup? I see the 808 have a CB CP and AC trigger out. And the XP-80 just have a click out 1/4 inch hook up.
Hey Synthmania community! Amazing videos and so informative, would anybody know how to re create this effect using roland legendary vst series? the daw of choice is ableton, any help would be great!,, thanks Synthmania! Always amazing content and thank you for taking your time to share your knowledge across all of your videos! 🎹🎶
Interessante come sempre: potresti scrivere un libro : "tecnologia e sintassi dei fraseggi techno/disco" un abbraccio da Milano
Pietro, grazie. Non sei il primo che mi chiede di scrivere un libro, e sto contemplando la possibilita' di farlo... un abbraccio altrettanto a te, e salutami la bella Milano!
Wicked video and love the channel. This actually inspired me to get a JU06a and TR-09. I’ve managed to setup them up so the TR-09 triggers the sequencer, but I can’t for the life of me work out how to get it to trigger the arpeggiator. Do you or anyone on this thread have any advise? Thanks!
A great video which gave the most important hint composing 80s synth songs. Triggering the bassline by the rimshot. So simple, but helps me to produce interesting basslines. Thanks for this SynthMania.
Hi. Could I do a tutorial on how to do the same with a roland tr8 and a modern synthesizer like the mininova novation?
Thank you
Sei un mito! Sarebbe bellissimo vederti "ricreare" pezzo per pezzo i vari dead or alive, yazoo, p.lion e chi più ne ha più ne metta!
Do you reckon you could do a video explaining the drum pattern for No Limit by 2 Unlimited?
This comment section got unexpectedly sexual for such a normal fucking video
Paolo, what is on your opinion the faithful Juno VST emulation you could suggest ?
This is the kind of sound i will never get bored of... I'm less impressed by the sounds of the house/techno of the 90's.
The only thing I liked back in the late nineties were the sounds of trip-hop music ;-)
Please keep on posting tracks with the 80's style, italo-disco, new wave and so on ! ;-)
Question for you - on my MD-8, it doesn't isolate the MIDI channel. Any note sent over MIDI to the MD-8 is played on the Juno-60 regardless of what channel the MD-8 is set to or what channel the note is sent on. So, for instance, trying to use a Beatstep pro to control a TR-8, Juno-60 and a MoPho for the bass, the Juno plays all the notes meant for all 3 instead of just the lead line; I can't isolate a channel for triggering just the Juno. Does your MD-8 behave this way? Or is mine broken?
A quick question, can you achieve the same effect with modern synths so that it follows the rim shot or drum pattern and the keyboard will play the bass line?
Can newer drum machines/keyboards do this via midi? Mine are both from 1999, not nearly as cool :/
jesus christ that end is amazing !!!!
Thank you! Yes, I like that arpeggiated line I came up with on the DW-8000 - I might have to turn it into a song ;)
Duke Lake - Do You (1983) same intro...wunderbar !!
It's interesting that the pattern at 3:51 reminds me of a song called 'Thinking About Your Love', by Skipworth and Turner, 1985, they used that drum pattern for their tune which had a soul/disco feel. Still intrigues me how a pattern can be used with such variety as it sounds totally different in the pop examples you showed.
Love this demo as much as your others, Paulo. Too bad this configuration can't be achieved using either of my Roland synthesizers (JX-8p and VR-09), neither of which has an arpeggiator or clock inputs.
I do have a microKorg XL and a Yamaha RX5 (missing its power supply). Could they be used to emulate this configuration?
How you do this on behringer rd9? 3 trigger outs and a trigger on the display that blank
Fantastic! Thanks for making this epic video.
Hi there , i wish to trigger from my tr09 ( trigger out ) rim shot to my moog little phatty . But I do not have a input arpeggiator connectivity . Any advice if possible ? Many thanks . Great video as always
Thank you, Paul.
You are a coooooool man. Thanks so much to have you, brother. Xx
Great video. Assume this works exactly the same with a Juno 06?
Lou Leo Thanks!
No, Juno 06 have no Arp. and no Trigger-in. The new roland boutiques TR-09 TR08 have trigger outs, TB-03 and SH-01a have trigger ins....
or do you mean Juno-6 or Juno-06 (Boutique)
Thank you! Yeah, same question that the other are asking ... do you mean Juno-6, or the new 06...
SynthMania Sorry, typo. I meant the original 1982 Juno-6. I've checked it out and it's the same deal as the 60 and synchs with the trig out from the 707.
Thanks!
Lovely analog warmth and groove; thanks. I think I'll subscribe. Time to bring up the DW-8000 from the basement, and I look forward to your programming tutorial. Now to figure out how to get a similar pulse arpeggiation for a Juno DS, through MIDI... (And actually you were using a 909 on the previous video, but I'm splitting digital hairs. :)
It may be 80s style BUT I just love it still, and the technology shown here, fantastic tutorial/s and thank you so much for sharing.
Now where's that synth?
I love your video’s .
Wish you would do some John Foxx on an Ody with a CR78. 🙏
Sure I’ve read you love his work.
I’m 57 and it was massive for me in my teens.
Kind regards
Thank you! Yes, definitely will feature some Ultravox style in the near future - yes, big influence on me too - I do plan to get a CR-78 hopefully this year early next year.
Big Hair, Mullets and shoulder pads!
TOP 80s feeling :-) Thank You
A joy to watch and of course hear. Thank you, sir :-)
I wonder why he narrows it down to the 1980s w/ the arppeggiators man Ive been using clocks and arps since the dawn of them and they don’t sound 80s only if I want them to, in fact they sound more futuristic . Now don’t get me wrong I happen to love the 80s
David - not narrowing down... it's just because the title of this video is "1980s Synth Bass Arpeggio Techniques" as the viewers very often ask me to post material about the '80s. Of course you can use arpeggiators for music of other styles / eras...
Excellent video! I wish I saw this video 2 years ago when you started me into synthesizers. :) That's ok though, you are always helpful in answering all my questions. Now that I've learned to program the MSQ-700 I hardly use the arppegiator for more than just noodling. :) Thanks for all your support over the years. Take care, Sam.
Hey Paolo, excellent arp tutorial, would you be interested in teaching a one on one workshop on italo disco? I've got a nice budget and would love to spend it on learning directly from you. Let me know?
Hi, Abel, regrettably right now I'm working on two other projects and don't have the bandwidth for a one one tutorial.. private message me in a couple of months or so and I should have more time available. In the meantime, if you have a specific (the more specific, the better) request, I'll be happy to try and make a video about it
I need to drag that 1974 Minimoog out of the closet. Also that Ensoniq ESQ-1 and my old DX7 and TX modules. But none of them sound as warm as my 1963 Hammond B3 and Leslie. I also have a Roland RD700GX which is a versatile stage unit, but weighs a ton and has awful piano samples. Who wants to buy it?
Hey... thanks for the explanation! (and for including my original question in the video) I have two Juno 60s and have since attempted a similar method using rimshots from other sources with mixed results. I ended up getting one of those Valpower MIDI-DCB units after watching your review. Thanks again:)
Sounds of the 80's and Italo Disco, the best!!
now lets see if i can replicate this beautiful but simple process using my standard VST :-(
Another great tutorial, Paolo! Grazie mile. ;-)... "look mom...no MIDI at all!" LOL
Haha - thank you, GUlly Foyle!
I just finished understanding how to run the arpeggiator of the DW8000 from my Roland R5, it is sooo much fun! It was your vid with the DW8000 and the dx7 that made me sit down and read my manuals.
Great video, i like the old style Arp. and Sequencer trigger techniques...!
The new roland boutiques TR-09 TR08 have trigger outs, TB-03 and SH-01a have trigger ins....
Love this channel, learnt so much from here. Can this be done with a synth that does not have an arpeggio function? I have a Roland boutique TR-09 and an SE1X mono synth....
8:06 The TR-707 (rimshot trigger out) cabled to the Juno-60 (arpeggio clock in) allows for irregular patterns not just straight 1/8s 1/16s. The built-in arpeggiator plugins in Logic Pro X seem only to support regular patterns with a rate knob to specify the length of notes. It would be amazing if we could create a rimshot drum synth track with any step pattern and have an instrument track arpeggiator sync to that rimshot track as trigger. Some of the workflows on old gear are so intuitive and inspiring.
edit: There is a way in LPX for Alchemy go to the ARP tab enable the ARP mode then change step/multi, or for other software instruments add an ARP midi FX and change from live to grid and enter the steps just like you would with rimshots on the TR-707 and choose a note order. Lots of mouse clicking isn't nearly as fun or easy as using pads on a drum machine but it can be done.
Very good sounding exsamples, what would you recomande for this times to use ?
nice. i have a 707 need to get some use out of it
i love it !
i have a TR626, but unfortunately my synths don't have an arpegiator trigger IN ( D50 - DX7 - EMU II, MT32 - Kurzweil K1000 .. ) . is there another way to do just the same ?
Damn you, Roland, for axing the arpeggiator on the Juno-106! :-(
xnonsuchx the 106 had MIDI, so no need for the arp.
I had both of these and never knee they could be linked like this. The wonder of the internet.
Awe-inspiring, thank you very much Paolo for sharing this knowledge to the world, much appreciated man !! Words don't come easy (aka F.R.David)
trying to re create this using iOS apps
I hope this man lives on forever.
I have to admit, I have an affinity towards '80's music, so I thoroughly enjoyed (both watching and listening to) this here tutorial. Sadly, I don't own a Roland Juno or a TR-707. I have a few iOS synths, plus an old Roland M-VS1 module and Arturia Keystep. I don't suppose you'd have any recommendations for equipment like that? Yeah, maybe I should save up more money and invest in something better (?).
Can you do the same with the korg dw8000?
At 2:09 you talk about the rim trigger out. Before watching closely, I had assumed that you were clocking the sequencer using the individual audio output for the rim shot. Now I'm guessing an audio signal wouldn't work, because Trigger implies something like a 5V level. Have I got that right?
How many drum machines offer a trigger out for this purpose? Is this unique to a TR-707, or a handful of drum machine models, or is it a very common thing?
This is great. Nice trip down memory lane here. I had a similar technique that I used with my 106 and TR 505 back in 1988. I thought I was a genius when I figured it out.
I picked up a DW-8000 a while ago and I've been fiddling with it for a while, but I've never been able to program sounds as lush as your chord tones. Do have any tips or resources on how to properly program the 8000? Thanks for the sick video by the way, I love this channel!
Brendan- thank you very much!! Sure, I'll do a video on programming the DW-8000
SynthMania Thank you so much! I look forward to the video.
Excelent tutorial!!!! Cheers!! from argentina!!
Glad it helped!
Amazing Lesson. Now I know how they did it in the 80's. One question:
The best arpeggios for me were the one from Hypnotic Tango (My mine) and the baseline from Koto (Visitors). Can you illuminate us with one lesson with one of them?
Thank you very much.
Thank you - will do - I plan to do walk-throughs for all the major Italo Disco songs of the era
Thanks. I just love your Videos.
Could you do an episode on how to sidechain (compress/gate) in a live situation with hardware?
anyone know which modern or still-in-production synths have an arp-in clock??
I just about lost my shit when I heard the very nice song at the end. Oh man I have chills, it was so good!!
Does anyone know how I can go about this with an Analog Rytm?
I don't know if I came in to see this video before. I kept thinking you bring back that aura of the 80's every time I hear you play. It's so incredible what those instruments can do. It's like the music never stopped. I can remember what I enjoyed the most of the 80's was the synths and the sounds that they produced. When I hear it from your channel it's like stepping back in time. I get very nostalgic when I hear you play. I'm glad to listen to your tutorials. I do hope this type of music will make a come back. I miss it very much. Thank you so much for your tutorials. They are very informative and very educational.
BADASS !
Haha- thank you :)
THIS is one of the reasons i have 2 tr 707's people ask "why do you have 2 707's when you also have a drumtraks ? " because i have more than one synth with arpeggio clock in , and i'd like them to have differing rythm patterns. the clik out on the drumtracks only sends the trigger in what ever time the beat is in.. well i "guess" I COULD just run the arppegio with the rim out on the DT now that i think of it .. anyhow sweet sounding stuff, man. inspiring and informative.
plus another reason i have 2 707s is because i havent met the person with 2 727s that wants to trade one for one of them which i'd do in a heartbeat.
PHAEDRIDER use MIDI.
i do.. to clock the 707, but i dont have a midi to dcb converter,
Another great educational video demo'd & explained very well. It sure helps me out viewing your vids-understanding how it all fits/works together. Getting back to music after a brief 35 years away due to career & profession demands. :)
if i connected via midi instead would the end result be the same
no, if you use more then one note (chords) then with midi it begins new with the first note. The new roland boutiques TR-09 TR08 have trigger outs, TB-03 and SH-01a have trigger ins....
Is it possibile to interface roland tr09 drum machine to the roland juno 6?
Very informative! I'm also amazed at all the awesome gear you have (Is that a leslie in the background?).
1st thanks for all your great videos. Would a midi connection from my Boss DR880 machine to my Arturia Keystep control the clock in the same way as you control the Juno?
incredible.... thanks pablo :)
Thanks, bitmeh!
THank you!!!! I have waited thirty years for someone to show this!
hi, what can you do with juno 106?
Brilliant, that riff at 5:19 sounds like your track 'perfect life' - one of my favourites :-) Modern synths just can't replicate that Juno 60/6 bass sound, thanks for sharing SM ;/) ps - I don't suppose you'd share the patch from the UltraNova lead sound on 'perfect life' would you ?
Thank *you very much for watching! The lead on the UltraNova was a stock patch from the factory, I forget the name of it at the moment, but if you download the original sysex you will find it in there
SynthMania That's great, much appreciated.
Best channel on youtube!!!
One day i will own one of these JUNO60 beasts!
No kidding man, they sound spectacular.
Fantastico!! Grazie!!
good demo! watching this you have exact 60.000 subscribers, congrats!
Thank you very much!!
These videos are great!
ive also wondered about if sophie and peter johnston more complex bass lines where done this way. like on the song torn open. maybe was just midi and syncing to the grid at that point though.
this guy is amazing!
great videos. After watching the first 80's Arpeggio video, I tried doing it myself. I do own a Juno 60, but do NOT have any of the TR drums machine that have the sync. FYI, I just happen to also own a Novation Basstation rack that came out in late 90's which happens to have CV. I use my DAW which is Digital Performer (but this works with anyone of them). I found a patch on the Basstation that is VERY percussive with quick hit. I programmed the DAW to play the Basstation on the Midi. The Basstation has a audio out and I also used a 1/4 plug for CV out. I am able to first hear the Audio out and made it even more percussive, kinda like the RIM or cowbell on the TR707. I then muted the audio and the CV out of the Bass Station then played into the Arpeggio Clock In 1/4 on back of the Juno 60. This is how I am able to mimic that 80's arpeggio with my BELOVED Juno 60.
Thank you. Good workaround.