Great interview and Mr. Amitav Gosh really opened my eyes a bit more. Thank you Mr. Shekhar Gupta, this is the first time I am thanking you but in my heart I must have thanked you so many times ... it took time for gratitude to travel from heart to lips, simply because I fear that "thank you " in a TH-cam comment is considered to nothing. An ugly remark carries weight though. Dear Mr. Shekhar Gupta I am too old to imagine you or any other human to be an angel, but I know that grace must be honoured.
I must say that there's something meditative and healing about how these two gentlemen speak. I was down with a pounding headache and picked up this video to listen to with eyes closed. Voila! My headache came under control by the time it finished.
Please don't try to compare India and China. Chana government can do what they want. Here, even if you try to bring something with good intentions, the politics will kill it.
Shekhar Gupta ji is the most vocal supporter of (mostly indiscriminate) infrastructure projects such as Mumbai's coastal road, citing crumbling infrastructure in our cities. While the latter is true, the approach towards it CANNOT be indiscriminate, cannot be ONLY car-focused. There are ways to do it that are both ecologically and economically sound. People with voice such as Shekhar ji must think more critically about these things, not be burdened with old pre-conceived notions.
*@PRINT* One of the best desi English authors - became a massive fan after reading Calcutta Chromosome many years ago. I still get haunting shivers when I re-read parts of the book, every few years... Good to know his interest areas are topical as well.
I think the speaker is being too critical of India. When India is the only major country to reach it's 2° goals, how is it doing worse than china or canada? Regarding EV, we are building the largest EV factory for 2 wheelers and the race for EV 4 wheelers is picking up in India too. As usual, we are behind China by about a decade, why be so negative about the Indian scenario? I think this is nothing short of fear mongering. Even if sea level rises by 2 meters in 2050, the coastal areas of mumbai is so valuable that they would build some protection like the dutch did, in coming years.
There needs to be some answerability for people who predict cities will submirge and so on. Because when I was young people were sure.. fossil fuel will be finished by year 2000. I am not denying climate change but denying the predictions based on it .. I feel since no one really knows what climate change affects will be and to what extent this effects will be, people keep making predictions with no reckoning.
Who was saying that? Scientists? Link please? General people would've meant that all of the current reserves will be depleted. But new reserves of oil are found all the time, and technology to extract more is evolving too. Also, people do know what effects of climate change will be. Your solution of wait and watch till earthquake to come to see what damage it does isn't very helpful.
@@gomezmilkin340 that is my point, new technologies were found not only new sites to extract oil. Also no one is sure how much exactly how much the crude oil is inside earth. Now about climate change. People are certainly not sure what effects will be of climate change or how sivior it will be. For example we keep hearing sea level will rise. But how much ? Predictions range from few inches to few feets. Also predictions of how much economy will be effected or how much ecology will be effected are very arbitrary. I am not saying wait for the earthquake. I am saying the best way to cope with uncertain future might not be what many climate activist say. That we must stop all carbon emissions and other drastic measures. I feel maybe investing in people is far better bet to make. Because once you reach certain economic level you yourself start taking interest in making air clean and ecology in general. But if you force people before they have reached the stage you will have difference of interest. So instead of doing virtue signalling, govts( wealthy nations) should make sure that human life expierence get better rapidly in poorer countries. Life expireance is not only education, but in general life expireance. If that happens there will be willingness as well as innovation I am betting on human ingenuity as well as goodness. I bet mumbai will not be under water by 2050 or even 2070 You know why ?
@@Rajan112358 you don't have 50 years to "find a solution" my friend. You have 29 years to both find it and apply it (read about 2050, 1.5° goal) It's like a T20 game - 10 overs might seem like a lot for chasing 80 runs, but if you keep run rate slow and need 20 runs in last over, even if you have Dhoni and Jadeja at the crease, the match can be lost. In this case, losing isn't even an option - there isn't a next match to play.
Don’t want to nitpick, but so many things that are factually incorrect on his comments about Mongol invasions. They completely decimated very advanced cities like Baghdad to the point of no recovery and had profound effects on advanced civilizations like China, Persia and even Kievan Rus. And they weren’t Buddhist, they were Shamanists mainly practicing Tengri (but were known to be religiously tolerant). There are even theories as to what would have happened if Genghis’ army would have crossed the Urals to reach Europe (much like predecessors Huns). However, he’s right that they weren’t extractive like later colonial powers. But this is because they existed in a pre-industrial society where agricultural revenue was more valuable. They didn’t need any raw materials en masse to mass produce products or have trade monopolies. That concept just didn’t exist.
On his point of Colonization: Thailand being more advanced because they “innovated” is actually factually incorrect. Thailand was a pseudo vassal state situated between the British and French Empires. They just struck successful treaties with these powers. Nepal did the same and wasn’t technically colonized but they aren’t developed. Also, Hong Kong and Singapore were colonized but emerged as one of the most developed regions in all of Asia. Taiwan was also colonized by Japan which had a similar result. Japan, on the other hand, industrialized itself based on Western model during the Meiji Restoration because they were forced to open up. Before US’ Perry Expedition knowledge exchange was limited to a small pocket, ie. Nagasaki and the country was highly feudal with not much technological advancement. Colonization in general has been highly destructive and extractive to most countries, but beneficial to few because of the industrial knowledge and structural reform they left behind. Depends on case to case and how the rule was. For eg. on the same island- French colonized Haiti was a disaster whereas Spanish colonized Dominic Republic is way wealthier.
@@sreenii5445 Hahahaha, anyone can write a book. Doesn’t mean he’s correct on everything. These foolish arguments only give credence to such completely wrong statements and shut down any or all counterarguments. These are facts. You can yourself Google every single thing i have mentioned above, read books on the subjects and research primary sources by yourself and try again to counter me with FACTS, instead of taking the easy way out and attacking someone personally. If even in this information age you need to be spoon fed, then god help you. The highest selling book series in the world is Harry Potter. Means whatever she wrote is real and JK Rowling is the know-it-all on everything? Please. Try to respond with factual arguments next time instead of embarrassing yourself on the public forum.
This is something different. I also believe in degroth not in financial sence but being forced in getting unnecessary things in my home.since 2018 I haven't seen TELEVISION at my home.
What about excessive consumption? It is one of the biggest problem especially the developed countries but also developing world. As a citizen every single being has a role to play if we need better environment.
Most Parsi Businessmen are ethical and operate with principles Indian Politicians in last 70 years run country without values ethics and principles only one aspect in mind Power - Corruption - Money - Power No town planning no people's convenience first instead Indian politics and Democracy is politics of convenience and by hook or crook they want to stay in power. It doesn't matter if people die due to respiratory disorders
Shekhar jee..... Qatar can afford to do anything.... they have a population of just 28.8 lakhs..... that's Karnal and Panipat put together.... India on the other hand is a behemoth when it comes to population.... we can't compare ourselves with Qatar
It's not the low population, it's the Money that's why Qatar can do anything. Why everyone is so obsessed with Indian population, Think of China's influence over the world, Population is not the curse, if trained properly, it's the best resource any nation can have. Maybe you should read some books before commenting about a topic, in which you don't have any knowledge in.
@@Ramkrishna-2023 Aap dekhiye Old Delhi Motorcycle on you tube.... in the first three minutes of the video an old Sikh Bullet mechanic from Delhi will answer your question...... sirf bachche hi paida kittey hai.... hor kuch ni kitta.... And keep your whataboutary in your.... you know what.... Happy Diwali and a Happy new year with clear mind ahead.... ✨ ☺ 😊 💕
In one book on climate change Amitav Ghosh wonders, whether nature is driving humans to change it self. I am still pondering over it since last 4 years.
Shipping is the most efficient modes of transportation. I don't understand why is trans-national shipping a problem?! I suspect this is why activism without any expertise can be counter productive.
Daniel Quinn said it first ..long back..but he was an outlier then..Mr Amitav ..im an absolute fanboy ..read all of your work..(Gun island}has tried to bring it back into discourse by almost a fairytale narrative dovetailed into present day reality..Have just ordered The Nutmegs Curse..looking forward..but i do see a marked watering down of your language to make the message more accessible..Though fable and absolute love for the characters were inherent in all your books,they were fairly introsective..All your recent work (ibis triology too)is is far more a movie format ..not that i loved it less..would want to see more of the pieces of yours..Hey..you are amazing always
I have read most of his essays, books and novels...however I don't really agree they way he said about de-growth. We as civilisation have to go much ahead...explore options to reduce calamities, improve life...we can't go back to forests or caves...we have to find ways and means of being with nature and utilise renewable energy, plant more trees...be self sufficient as much as possible
A very pleasant conversation by pleasing (Sg, too) personalities. Knowledgeable talk. But I have a different take on this climate change debated. This discussion on climate change effects and carbon emissions should have started soon after the II world war. All the “energy” spent towards nuclear weapons should have been used for energy generation. All the money spent on ICBMs etc. should have been used for research on generation of clean energy. And so on.. and so forth… Tail piece: Discussion on panels and TV by “experts” now will yield little result. People have to cut down on their wants. Governments, now do not have magic wands for creating solutions in a jiffy. Every citizen of this world will need to sacrifice and contribute towards the efforts. As they say in Hindi, “Abhi, Kutch paane ke liye kutch khon padega” ( to gain something something else has to be lost).
Centuries of incessant rural violence (for the past many decades glossed over as "political"), communal massacres and a religious partition. Glorification of motivated missionary charity..The nost horrific treatment of persecuted own - ethnic refugees culminating in Marichjhappi. How does the intellectual Bengali avoid being pontifical?
Shekar ji - Amitav is depressing same as Ravish Kumar of NDTV. Amitav definitely has knowledge, maybe facts too but his toxic way of depressing people will make humans zombies before climate takes us away lol. His utter ridiculous of correlating things and giving no explanation why! He’s giving data dump like any modern AI or algorithm. Please post some detoxifying video ;)
I just liked you talked of Ravish being depressing. I had respect for him, but he has cynical approach about everything, even some subject matter experts don't feel like him about those issues
That's people you don't have habit of listening to writers and thinkers, better continue with the blabbering and noise on Republic TV and Times Now kind of stuff which is specially made for people like you.
@@vrishalisonar453 ya I can listen calmly to anyone. Expect for people who shout or depress. For one Shekhar Gupta is the best person to listen for an early morning podcast on print with coffee.
Truly a fall from grace... If journalists stop being opinion makers, and confine themselves to being reporters of news, this negative charachterization will not stop. In real life we had Rajdeep Sardesai giving wrong news on live TV.. Barkha Dutt, Karan Thapar and Rajdeep were busy in building a negative image of Modi ji,... That led to them falling from public's eye and grace... So if journalists remain true to their profession their image too will be positive in the publics eye... Truly time has come to ponder over their acts and behavior.
These are the kind of embittered people who talk and write a lot but do not have solutions to anything - bhaav purush instead of karam purush - activists, journalists, artists, environmentalists and economists. Urge today's generation to avoid these professions even if you are unemployed
The position of the inferior nations is similar to that of our freeloading farmers who want to be paid for not polluting. Not a dime should be given to third world countries who pollute. Instead, their access to western markets should be restricted to get them to lower their carbon production
The western world got rich by polluting the most. How fair is it for them to ask the third world to switch to green energy which is going to cost them money that could instead be used for infrastructure & health care?
@@tron8421 The western world got rich through inventions and technology which they made available to the rest of us and saved mankind. They gave us electricity, healthcare, law and Oder, banking, seeds and fertilzers,,,,,,the list is endless. So while there activities did pollute the planet, mankind is better off for it. It is not at all fair of them to ask us to use green energy. We should act in our self interest and use whatever kind of energy that suits us. What is truly shameful is our demanding to be paid for lowering our carbon emissions. As for money to be used for infrastructure etc, whatever money that is given to the inferior nations will be squandered on freeloading farmers , vast armies of government employees and defence personnel and PSU employees.
You seem to be very impressed with the Western nations, rightly so, but one should not be an andhbakth.... Our per capita emission is still very less than these "developed" Countries....
@@sanjaysaksena619 What's there to feel shame about? Did the western world feel any shame when doing colonization, racism, slavery & buring coal to make themselves industrialized? The British for example feel no regret or shame about their imperial empire. Most of the wealth that west got is exploited from Africa and India. Yes, they made innovations, but the raw materials to process were looted or procured at a cheap price from the now third world. What's there to be ashamed to ask for assistance in shifting to a greener economy? Maybe India can afford to make that transition on its own. But what about the African & South American nations?
@@sanjaysaksena619 India's govt. expenditure on Defense/PSUs/subsidies is a fraction of what the western world spends. They spend billions of dollars on gender studies and other useless timepasses. Why can't they spend a fraction of it as assistance to the third world?
Great interview and Mr. Amitav Gosh really opened my eyes a bit more.
Thank you Mr. Shekhar Gupta, this is the first time I am thanking you but in my heart I must have thanked you so many times ... it took time for gratitude to travel from heart to lips, simply because I fear that "thank you " in a TH-cam comment is considered to nothing. An ugly remark carries weight though.
Dear Mr. Shekhar Gupta I am too old to imagine you or any other human to be an angel, but I know that grace must be honoured.
I must say that there's something meditative and healing about how these two gentlemen speak. I was down with a pounding headache and picked up this video to listen to with eyes closed. Voila! My headache came under control by the time it finished.
Please don't try to compare India and China. Chana government can do what they want. Here, even if you try to bring something with good intentions, the politics will kill it.
Little correction
Coal powered electricity is now 54% and not 70%. Renewable energy is now 23%
What about base load? Coal seems to dominate there...
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To non experts like me..
.amitav seems as much a history scholar as a novelist!😊
What a provocative talk ! Excellent to hear so many topics dissected in such a short span of time ..
*Very very interesting and controversial conversation!*
Since childhood I've been an avid reader of Mr Ghosh's books. He is indeed one of the finest minds of India 😍😍
Thank you Print for getting AG. Much appreciated!
Shekhar Gupta ji is the most vocal supporter of (mostly indiscriminate) infrastructure projects such as Mumbai's coastal road, citing crumbling infrastructure in our cities. While the latter is true, the approach towards it CANNOT be indiscriminate, cannot be ONLY car-focused. There are ways to do it that are both ecologically and economically sound. People with voice such as Shekhar ji must think more critically about these things, not be burdened with old pre-conceived notions.
So many of the presented ideas were like a breath of fresh air. Informative and inspiring. Thanks.
*@PRINT* One of the best desi English authors - became a massive fan after reading Calcutta Chromosome many years ago. I still get haunting shivers when I re-read parts of the book, every few years... Good to know his interest areas are topical as well.
God bless u shekhar n amitav fhosh
I think the speaker is being too critical of India.
When India is the only major country to reach it's 2° goals, how is it doing worse than china or canada? Regarding EV, we are building the largest EV factory for 2 wheelers and the race for EV 4 wheelers is picking up in India too. As usual, we are behind China by about a decade, why be so negative about the Indian scenario? I think this is nothing short of fear mongering.
Even if sea level rises by 2 meters in 2050, the coastal areas of mumbai is so valuable that they would build some protection like the dutch did, in coming years.
I think He meant India is in the toughest situation, future wise.
I think he is too much critical of Delhi. Delhi metro connects all of Delhi now and public transport is also good
Hkc
Superb! We can change India only by translating and discussing it in Hindi and other Indian languages!
Much appreciate that OTC is presented in Chapters on TH-cam 👍🏽👌🏽
There needs to be some answerability for people who predict cities will submirge and so on.
Because when I was young people were sure.. fossil fuel will be finished by year 2000.
I am not denying climate change but denying the predictions based on it ..
I feel since no one really knows what climate change affects will be and to what extent this effects will be, people keep making predictions with no reckoning.
Who was saying that? Scientists? Link please?
General people would've meant that all of the current reserves will be depleted. But new reserves of oil are found all the time, and technology to extract more is evolving too.
Also, people do know what effects of climate change will be. Your solution of wait and watch till earthquake to come to see what damage it does isn't very helpful.
@@gomezmilkin340 that is my point, new technologies were found not only new sites to extract oil.
Also no one is sure how much exactly how much the crude oil is inside earth.
Now about climate change.
People are certainly not sure what effects will be of climate change or how sivior it will be.
For example we keep hearing sea level will rise.
But how much ?
Predictions range from few inches to few feets.
Also predictions of how much economy will be effected or how much ecology will be effected are very arbitrary.
I am not saying wait for the earthquake.
I am saying the best way to cope with uncertain future might not be what many climate activist say.
That we must stop all carbon emissions and other drastic measures.
I feel maybe investing in people is far better bet to make.
Because once you reach certain economic level you yourself start taking interest in making air clean and ecology in general.
But if you force people before they have reached the stage you will have difference of interest.
So instead of doing virtue signalling, govts( wealthy nations) should make sure that human life expierence get better rapidly in poorer countries.
Life expireance is not only education, but in general life expireance.
If that happens there will be willingness as well as innovation
I am betting on human ingenuity as well as goodness.
I bet mumbai will not be under water by 2050 or even 2070
You know why ?
th-cam.com/video/jdGjgmyFP9M/w-d-xo.html
You really think in 50 years we won't be able to make even better solution than this ??
@@Rajan112358 you don't have 50 years to "find a solution" my friend. You have 29 years to both find it and apply it (read about 2050, 1.5° goal)
It's like a T20 game - 10 overs might seem like a lot for chasing 80 runs, but if you keep run rate slow and need 20 runs in last over, even if you have Dhoni and Jadeja at the crease, the match can be lost.
In this case, losing isn't even an option - there isn't a next match to play.
@shekherji if you could have a chat with Sunita Narian of Down to Earth.. on COP26.. many of us will appreciate it.. thnks
Don’t want to nitpick, but so many things that are factually incorrect on his comments about Mongol invasions. They completely decimated very advanced cities like Baghdad to the point of no recovery and had profound effects on advanced civilizations like China, Persia and even Kievan Rus. And they weren’t Buddhist, they were Shamanists mainly practicing Tengri (but were known to be religiously tolerant).
There are even theories as to what would have happened if Genghis’ army would have crossed the Urals to reach Europe (much like predecessors Huns).
However, he’s right that they weren’t extractive like later colonial powers. But this is because they existed in a pre-industrial society where agricultural revenue was more valuable. They didn’t need any raw materials en masse to mass produce products or have trade monopolies. That concept just didn’t exist.
On his point of Colonization:
Thailand being more advanced because they “innovated” is actually factually incorrect. Thailand was a pseudo vassal state situated between the British and French Empires. They just struck successful treaties with these powers. Nepal did the same and wasn’t technically colonized but they aren’t developed.
Also, Hong Kong and Singapore were colonized but emerged as one of the most developed regions in all of Asia.
Taiwan was also colonized by Japan which had a similar result.
Japan, on the other hand, industrialized itself based on Western model during the Meiji Restoration because they were forced to open up. Before US’ Perry Expedition knowledge exchange was limited to a small pocket, ie. Nagasaki and the country was highly feudal with not much technological advancement.
Colonization in general has been highly destructive and extractive to most countries, but beneficial to few because of the industrial knowledge and structural reform they left behind. Depends on case to case and how the rule was.
For eg. on the same island- French colonized Haiti was a disaster whereas Spanish colonized Dominic Republic is way wealthier.
Which is the book you have written on the above, kindly share the name, let us get informed by your erudition, Amitav has proven himself.
@@sreenii5445 Hahahaha, anyone can write a book. Doesn’t mean he’s correct on everything. These foolish arguments only give credence to such completely wrong statements and shut down any or all counterarguments.
These are facts.
You can yourself Google every single thing i have mentioned above, read books on the subjects and research primary sources by yourself and try again to counter me with FACTS, instead of taking the easy way out and attacking someone personally. If even in this information age you need to be spoon fed, then god help you.
The highest selling book series in the world is Harry Potter. Means whatever she wrote is real and JK Rowling is the know-it-all on everything? Please.
Try to respond with factual arguments next time instead of embarrassing yourself on the public forum.
Great conversation on climate change to being a writer. 👍
This is something different. I also believe in degroth not in financial sence but being forced in getting unnecessary things in my home.since 2018 I haven't seen TELEVISION at my home.
Only China is saving environment and ecology. World should learn from China on environmental conservation.
This is the summary of this interview.
Very thought provoking....at times he reminds me of the scientist who predicted the earth would freeze in a few years!
Brilliant conversation
Don't worry about Bangladesh. In all muslim majority areas no other faiths can live happily. It's history of 1400 years.
Very enlightening 👏👏👏
The expert besides using jargon doesn’t have a solution!
To understand the writer you must be well read and sensible, for quick fix solutions watch republic TV
If you have not read him, you won’t understand
I believe climate change is real! But radical thoughts of Mr. Ghosh without adhering to the facts makes me want to believe otherwise
What about excessive consumption? It is one of the biggest problem especially the developed countries but also developing world. As a citizen every single being has a role to play if we need better environment.
Loved it.....thank you
SG and AG, my two favourites..
Most Parsi Businessmen are ethical and operate with principles
Indian Politicians in last 70 years run country without values ethics and principles only one aspect in mind
Power - Corruption - Money - Power
No town planning no people's convenience first instead
Indian politics and Democracy is politics of convenience and by hook or crook they want to stay in power.
It doesn't matter if people die due to respiratory disorders
Where from 70% coal generation number came. Be responsible before using numbers - journalism is responsible profession.
Can you give what the current figure is ?
mumbai needs costal highway
we can build sea carrages like Amsterdam
In Delhi we need more rapid transit (metro) and also Deep connection with ncr
Shekhar jee..... Qatar can afford to do anything.... they have a population of just 28.8 lakhs..... that's Karnal and Panipat put together.... India on the other hand is a behemoth when it comes to population.... we can't compare ourselves with Qatar
It's not the low population, it's the Money that's why Qatar can do anything.
Why everyone is so obsessed with Indian population,
Think of China's influence over the world,
Population is not the curse, if trained properly, it's the best resource any nation can have.
Maybe you should read some books before commenting about a topic, in which you don't have any knowledge in.
@@Ramkrishna-2023 Aap dekhiye Old Delhi Motorcycle on you tube.... in the first three minutes of the video an old Sikh Bullet mechanic from Delhi will answer your question...... sirf bachche hi paida kittey hai.... hor kuch ni kitta....
And keep your whataboutary in your.... you know what.... Happy Diwali and a Happy new year with clear mind ahead.... ✨ ☺ 😊 💕
In one book on climate change Amitav Ghosh wonders, whether nature is driving humans to change it self.
I am still pondering over it since last 4 years.
Its the same rona dhona, there is a world wide acknowledgement tht we have already past the point of no return.
Shipping is the most efficient modes of transportation. I don't understand why is trans-national shipping a problem?! I suspect this is why activism without any expertise can be counter productive.
Daniel Quinn said it first ..long back..but he was an outlier then..Mr Amitav ..im an absolute fanboy ..read all of your work..(Gun island}has tried to bring it back into discourse by almost a fairytale narrative dovetailed into present day reality..Have just ordered The Nutmegs Curse..looking forward..but i do see a marked watering down of your language to make the message more accessible..Though fable and absolute love for the characters were inherent in all your books,they were fairly introsective..All your recent work (ibis triology too)is is far more a movie format ..not that i loved it less..would want to see more of the pieces of yours..Hey..you are amazing always
Whoever is playing with climate and nature, they just wait for the payback time. They have to pay a heavy price when nature will reciprocate
Why doesn't the print get j sai dipak
Expected some in depth analysis , but the speaker just adding some adverbs to what shekar ji's points. Waste of time
I have read most of his essays, books and novels...however I don't really agree they way he said about de-growth. We as civilisation have to go much ahead...explore options to reduce calamities, improve life...we can't go back to forests or caves...we have to find ways and means of being with nature and utilise renewable energy, plant more trees...be self sufficient as much as possible
A very pleasant conversation by pleasing (Sg, too) personalities. Knowledgeable talk.
But I have a different take on this climate change debated.
This discussion on climate change effects and carbon emissions should have started soon after the II world war. All the “energy” spent towards nuclear weapons should have been used for energy generation. All the money spent on ICBMs etc. should have been used for research on generation of clean energy. And so on.. and so forth…
Tail piece: Discussion on panels and TV by “experts” now will yield little result. People have to cut down on their wants. Governments, now do not have magic wands for creating solutions in a jiffy. Every citizen of this world will need to sacrifice and contribute towards the efforts. As they say in Hindi, “Abhi, Kutch paane ke liye kutch khon padega” ( to gain something something else has to be lost).
If sg has an opinion he will put it out even if the other one is making an important point 😂😂😂
Pataka forenge jonab 🙏
You forget Stubble burning of Punjab and Haryana
😊🙏
Centuries of incessant rural violence (for the past many decades glossed over as "political"), communal massacres and a religious partition. Glorification of motivated missionary charity..The nost horrific treatment of persecuted own - ethnic refugees culminating in Marichjhappi. How does the intellectual Bengali avoid being pontifical?
They can't - many of them take this easy route of pontificating, other practical ones join the modern life
Over and conspicuous consumption is the key culprit 😒
What hope we have when we can't stop using polythene bags, how will we make bigger changes.
He looks so obsessed with China 😒
One more book to read 👍👍
I love the oil and america comment. Reminds me of the oil and America meme.
All countries connected with Allah are blessed with OIL - the black gold !
Lol except the country that shouts Allah Allah everyday and takes pride in ''doing namaz in front of Hindus.''
Indians acted like colonists not only in Burma but also in Kenia, Uganda, South Africa etc.
Why the f**k do you talk over him? Let him speak man!
Shekar ji - Amitav is depressing same as Ravish Kumar of NDTV. Amitav definitely has knowledge, maybe facts too but his toxic way of depressing people will make humans zombies before climate takes us away lol. His utter ridiculous of correlating things and giving no explanation why! He’s giving data dump like any modern AI or algorithm. Please post some detoxifying video ;)
I just liked you talked of Ravish being depressing. I had respect for him, but he has cynical approach about everything, even some subject matter experts don't feel like him about those issues
That's people you don't have habit of listening to writers and thinkers, better continue with the blabbering and noise on Republic TV and Times Now kind of stuff which is specially made for people like you.
@@sreenii5445
I sort of felt sorry for ur argument making. It is immature actually. :) Anyway, enjoy!
@@sreenii5445 lol thanks for your preconceived judgement and analysis that I like republic tv. Just laughing out loud at your level of ignorance
@@vrishalisonar453 ya I can listen calmly to anyone. Expect for people who shout or depress. For one Shekhar Gupta is the best person to listen for an early morning podcast on print with coffee.
Truly a fall from grace... If journalists stop being opinion makers, and confine themselves to being reporters of news, this negative charachterization will not stop. In real life we had Rajdeep Sardesai giving wrong news on live TV.. Barkha Dutt, Karan Thapar and Rajdeep were busy in building a negative image of Modi ji,... That led to them falling from public's eye and grace... So if journalists remain true to their profession their image too will be positive in the publics eye... Truly time has come to ponder over their acts and behavior.
Amitav Ghosh is basically dishing out his own theories with absolutely no points to lend credence to his position. I
Amitav ghost 👻 dint like India and USA didn't like Amitav ghost 👻
These are the kind of embittered people who talk and write a lot but do not have solutions to anything - bhaav purush instead of karam purush - activists, journalists, artists, environmentalists and economists. Urge today's generation to avoid these professions even if you are unemployed
The position of the inferior nations is similar to that of our freeloading farmers who want to be paid for not polluting. Not a dime should be given to third world countries who pollute. Instead, their access to western markets should be restricted to get them to lower their carbon production
The western world got rich by polluting the most. How fair is it for them to ask the third world to switch to green energy which is going to cost them money that could instead be used for infrastructure & health care?
@@tron8421 The western world got rich through inventions and technology which they made available to the rest of us and saved mankind. They gave us electricity, healthcare, law and Oder, banking, seeds and fertilzers,,,,,,the list is endless. So while there activities did pollute the planet, mankind is better off for it.
It is not at all fair of them to ask us to use green energy. We should act in our self interest and use whatever kind of energy that suits us.
What is truly shameful is our demanding to be paid for lowering our carbon emissions.
As for money to be used for infrastructure etc, whatever money that is given to the inferior nations will be squandered on freeloading farmers , vast armies of government employees and defence personnel and PSU employees.
You seem to be very impressed with the Western nations, rightly so, but one should not be an andhbakth.... Our per capita emission is still very less than these "developed" Countries....
@@sanjaysaksena619 What's there to feel shame about? Did the western world feel any shame when doing colonization, racism, slavery & buring coal to make themselves industrialized? The British for example feel no regret or shame about their imperial empire.
Most of the wealth that west got is exploited from Africa and India. Yes, they made innovations, but the raw materials to process were looted or procured at a cheap price from the now third world.
What's there to be ashamed to ask for assistance in shifting to a greener economy? Maybe India can afford to make that transition on its own. But what about the African & South American nations?
@@sanjaysaksena619 India's govt. expenditure on Defense/PSUs/subsidies is a fraction of what the western world spends.
They spend billions of dollars on gender studies and other useless timepasses. Why can't they spend a fraction of it as assistance to the third world?