Well it makes Mirage Stallio better. It can now summon this to get an additional +1, which is pretty good. I wish this card would have been Level 3 though...
Something to note about this card, this is the only Salad that is a 1 card link 4 + relink to search. So in scenarios where you only open mining or circle as engine, I really like this card giving you the option to least end of a rage pop 4 or a roar + whatever non engine you drew into. Playing that card as a 1 of for those scenarios might be pretty decent fwiw.
The second effect also triggers fire phoenix @Ignister which is a nontarget destruction if you need any and since it's a fire it can be made easily. Also with the new support I've been testing hiita the fire channeler as that thing can search you for most of your deck and fill your grave with salads unlike small world but it also locks you to fires, you can even search the fire kaiju with her but I was always 50/50 about her as it also locked you to fires but now I think salad as a whole can be played purr without relying on accesscode and update. The advantages with this card is that it can also be searched with circle and it doesn't die to ghost ogre while debug does. This can also be summoned with will. Also don't forget the old link4 salad that can wipe boards on reincarnation.Also you can still otk with heatleo and violet chimera.
The first effect is to get rage phoenix out asap turn one. The second effect can be used in conjunction with sanctuary to gain lp in time OR if you need to run something over you atk with rage phoenix then use fire gy effect to pop phoenix to trigger its graveyard effect to special itself out big enough to run over a problem card or to just simply otk with phoenix. This cards really good for what the support wants to do. Cant have everything. (Keep in mind) you CAN summon whatever you regardless because this is a “For the REST of the turn” effect and not a “during the turn” effect. Only problem with this card is I don’t see gazelle going to 3 with this card being at 3
You can still get otk damage on board with this little guy, you can just search Will with New Phoenix, trigger its effect to special 4 bodies, make Powercode Talker if there is a monster on board, make some other card if not, then attack with Powercode for 4600, and attack with phoenix, trigger this little guy to pop it and bring back the other copy of phoenix at 5600. You do get a spin from Miragestallio which you get during the combo from this little guy. Maybe Accesscode gets banned? Who knows, if it does, then the card might become essential in salad as their best starter that also gives them a going second line just in case.
If the attack doesnt go through, it doesnt count as being battled. If the monster is removed during damage step, no replay occurs and therefore the monster never battled.
People forget that heatleo can spin like 2 backrow and reduce something to 0 atk or 500 atk, and then make the fusion to OTK like in TOSS format. You don't need accesscode to win duels.
actually you can make heatsoul if you sequence a bit differently and you like for example special another special summonable cyberse first and make like a linguriboh first then you summon this. the fire lock doesnh't spot heatsoul if the other attribute was already on the field!
People are thinking about this card as an starter, which while it is, you're not forced to use it like that. Salaman is not a deck that struggles with starting so you may summon this mid-combo instead, which lets you have a bit more freedom to choose your endboard.
The only way I see this being played is if they print more powerful fire attribute monsters in the extra deck. Accesscode, Bagooska, Dweller and Heatsoul are massive trade-ins for replacing probably Bufferlo with this.
It's clear they are steering Salamangreat towards having Pyro Phoenix as the end board and I think it's a lot better than summoning heatsoul or ending with wolf + bagooska. Their grind game is a lot better and they don't have to rely on using accesscode to quickly finish games.
Yeah seriously salamangreat now looks like a really solid rogue control/grind deck that can be really fun to play, just don't expect it to be the typical meta approach of cheating out a lot of oppresive interaction. You have the rotational meta if you really want to play for wins like that.
@@averagejoe9229 Best way to utilize Pyro’s effect, and it’s a Quick-Play Spell. And it deviates from the usual Salad end board. It’s not as good but nuking your opponent’s cards during their turn is satisfying, unless of course, it gets negated
@@TheUltimateCancerCell I thought you were being sarcastic in the first reply. It's normally not possible to summon both phoenix's in one turn and I don't see why you would play the old phoenix in the first place. Raging Phoenix adds rage which in turn pops 4 anyways.
This card is ALMOST crazy. That fire lock is brutal. Unless you’re doing this mid combo, you have no parallel, no Bagooska, no Heatsoul and on the crack back no splash, update or code talkers. Having a one card Link 4 with a trap do be very good but at this hefty of a cost is cringe
To end on wolf gooska & backrow you need 3 cards in hand, one of which isn't searchable. To end on wolf and 1 backrow we've needed minimum 2 cards. Now we have 1 card rage phoenix with backrow & 2 card rage phoenix with both backrow. Not saying the fire lock isn't ass but this is an improvement
@@Jhawk2711 unless you drew exceed your only making bagooska with 2 cards and no backrow in which case you're losing to imperm, dark ruler, forbidden droplet, and every kaiju (for the kaiju it messes up both end boards but you still only invested 1 card)
You still can summon heatsoul with mikrocoder in Hand 🥴 The second Effekt is ok, if you have Salemangreat Claw. You attack with the new link 4. destroy it with the new card. It came back with 5600 attack. Equip it with Claw and otk your opponent if he Control monsters . The Downside you have to play claw. Maybe in the side deck for going second 😄 Kinda slow but a funny option And maybe we will get more support in the future
Imagine giving up Accesscode, Bagooska, Dweller, Splash Mage, Transcode, Update Jammer and Flame Bufferlo for this. Lolno Konami. Put a lock on something that's actually good, not on a fucking Stratos.
The should have made a restriction on sprights so they can't be sed with other level/rank/link 2. Cyberse archetypes works best with eachother like sprights do with other level 2 archetypes.
"the lock is a show of good design", "also, it doesn't matter because the damage is already been done and no one will play with this card" idk, what's the point of "good design" if you end up making pack filler?
If all their cards were designed properly this card would be great. Too many cyberse decks are just climbing into accesscode or the other generic link monsters. Defeats the purpose of having other deck types
@@dragonmaster951753 sure, in an ideal world cyberse won't be as generic. So what? , We print bad support for old archetypes so they keep being bad? their new Link 4 is awful, why locking into him? This card is just a searcher not even an extender, it didn't need a lock on him, if it was like Circular who is both, yes. of course. But it isn't
a lot of people are dawging on this card but i think this card is great. it allows salamangreats to play a more compact engine and play a lot more non engine cards. one of my favorite versions of the deck right now is a control build where the deck uses salamangreat as the backbone for a powerful stun/control type build.
The 2nd effect I have a feeling there was a translation error or something, idk. It's so weird that you self destruct your monster like this during Battle Phase, especially in a deck like Salamangreat where there's no perk in doing so
I really don't like this card. Salads already have a ton of searchers & don't need anymore. This should also be a level 3 to work with miragestallio. I don't see why anyone would want to use this over flame buffalo.
One guarantees you see a Sallie body, one doesn't. That does matter, especially in terms of making the other cards work as cheaply as possible, since this is one-card Raging Phoenix. Also, 'a ton of searchers' matters very little when only one of them is reliable (Circle) and the others either require good RNG (Foxy) or you going -1 before an Ash even rears their ugly forehead (Mining).
It's the "Lady Debug VS Bufferlo" debate all over again, but now the new Debug is also a Salad/Fire. From the first look, with this card you just no longer play 3 Foxy/Spinny/Bufferlo and make room for this, along with 1 Teeger and 1/2 Wheesel.
This doesn't replace Bufferlo. There, I said it
playing this card basically makes sala more consistant but limits its ceiling
Well it makes Mirage Stallio better. It can now summon this to get an additional +1, which is pretty good. I wish this card would have been Level 3 though...
Spright salad tho? 🤔
Salamangreat players when the new salamangreat cards doesn't banish half of their opponent's deck and give them a happy ending 🥺🥺🥺🤬🤬🤬😔😔😔
Right, because salad had consistency issues, not ceiling issues. I’m always happy for more salad support but this isn’t at all what the deck needs
@@ezkhel man the card says after you use its effekt, that you can only summon fire monsters. You can't just add spright to any lv 2 🤦🏾♂️
Something to note about this card, this is the only Salad that is a 1 card link 4 + relink to search. So in scenarios where you only open mining or circle as engine, I really like this card giving you the option to least end of a rage pop 4 or a roar + whatever non engine you drew into. Playing that card as a 1 of for those scenarios might be pretty decent fwiw.
Now Salamangreat can join the ranks of 1 card combo Cyberse decks
The second effect also triggers fire phoenix @Ignister which is a nontarget destruction if you need any and since it's a fire it can be made easily. Also with the new support I've been testing hiita the fire channeler as that thing can search you for most of your deck and fill your grave with salads unlike small world but it also locks you to fires, you can even search the fire kaiju with her but I was always 50/50 about her as it also locked you to fires but now I think salad as a whole can be played purr without relying on accesscode and update.
The advantages with this card is that it can also be searched with circle and it doesn't die to ghost ogre while debug does. This can also be summoned with will.
Also don't forget the old link4 salad that can wipe boards on reincarnation.Also you can still otk with heatleo and violet chimera.
Heat Soul is possible with Microcoder / Code Generator etc.
Or just lead with Circular, who is a one card Heatsoul.
Huh! He said the one whose name shall not be mentioned.
The first effect is to get rage phoenix out asap turn one.
The second effect can be used in conjunction with sanctuary to gain lp in time OR if you need to run something over you atk with rage phoenix then use fire gy effect to pop phoenix to trigger its graveyard effect to special itself out big enough to run over a problem card or to just simply otk with phoenix.
This cards really good for what the support wants to do. Cant have everything.
(Keep in mind) you CAN summon whatever you regardless because this is a “For the REST of the turn” effect and not a “during the turn” effect.
Only problem with this card is I don’t see gazelle going to 3 with this card being at 3
"Too fair to be good" this is sad when you think of it.
You can still get otk damage on board with this little guy, you can just search Will with New Phoenix, trigger its effect to special 4 bodies, make Powercode Talker if there is a monster on board, make some other card if not, then attack with Powercode for 4600, and attack with phoenix, trigger this little guy to pop it and bring back the other copy of phoenix at 5600. You do get a spin from Miragestallio which you get during the combo from this little guy. Maybe Accesscode gets banned? Who knows, if it does, then the card might become essential in salad as their best starter that also gives them a going second line just in case.
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Konami really thought that having a Stratos in the year of *2023* was so good that it needed a Fire Lock. This sucks
the second effect is useful to avoid zeus from opponent
are you sure thats how it works? because if it happens in damage step shouldn’t it count as the xyz monster having battled
If the attack doesnt go through, it doesnt count as being battled. If the monster is removed during damage step, no replay occurs and therefore the monster never battled.
If cards are gonna be that restrictive then they might as well be a bit more pushed. Though this is mostly a lore card anyway.
well this is achichi @ignister as sala. same with the link 4 that is a fusion of the ignister and pryo phoenix.
and of course it triggers the new guy
People forget that heatleo can spin like 2 backrow and reduce something to 0 atk or 500 atk, and then make the fusion to OTK like in TOSS format. You don't need accesscode to win duels.
How do you make the fusion with consistency? The advantage of links Is that you don't need the fusion spell in hand.
tht's just plain worse than going accesscode, it takes more to do it and it's not consistent
No one has forgotten; it is just an inefficient, inconsistent and poor alternative strategy in comparison
The fusion line is bad.
@@Ragnarok540 You can use Proxy F Magician since it's a Fire Cyberse. Makes fusion summoning a lot easier
actually you can make heatsoul if you sequence a bit differently and you like for example special another special summonable cyberse first and make like a linguriboh first then you summon this. the fire lock doesnh't spot heatsoul if the other attribute was already on the field!
People are thinking about this card as an starter, which while it is, you're not forced to use it like that. Salaman is not a deck that struggles with starting so you may summon this mid-combo instead, which lets you have a bit more freedom to choose your endboard.
salamangreat achichi
The only way I see this being played is if they print more powerful fire attribute monsters in the extra deck.
Accesscode, Bagooska, Dweller and Heatsoul are massive trade-ins for replacing probably Bufferlo with this.
It's clear they are steering Salamangreat towards having Pyro Phoenix as the end board and I think it's a lot better than summoning heatsoul or ending with wolf + bagooska. Their grind game is a lot better and they don't have to rely on using accesscode to quickly finish games.
Yeah seriously salamangreat now looks like a really solid rogue control/grind deck that can be really fun to play, just don't expect it to be the typical meta approach of cheating out a lot of oppresive interaction. You have the rotational meta if you really want to play for wins like that.
Yeah Pyro Phoenix + Transcendence is a pog end board
@@TheUltimateCancerCell The fact that you would even play Transcendance in the first place speaks for itself.
@@averagejoe9229 Best way to utilize Pyro’s effect, and it’s a Quick-Play Spell. And it deviates from the usual Salad end board. It’s not as good but nuking your opponent’s cards during their turn is satisfying, unless of course, it gets negated
@@TheUltimateCancerCell I thought you were being sarcastic in the first reply. It's normally not possible to summon both phoenix's in one turn and I don't see why you would play the old phoenix in the first place. Raging Phoenix adds rage which in turn pops 4 anyways.
I think is fair, they are doing it bc marincess locks you in water so salad locks you at fire
The issue tho marincess is a lot more viable with out non water links Salad really isn’t
This card is ALMOST crazy. That fire lock is brutal. Unless you’re doing this mid combo, you have no parallel, no Bagooska, no Heatsoul and on the crack back no splash, update or code talkers.
Having a one card Link 4 with a trap do be very good but at this hefty of a cost is cringe
To end on wolf gooska & backrow you need 3 cards in hand, one of which isn't searchable. To end on wolf and 1 backrow we've needed minimum 2 cards. Now we have 1 card rage phoenix with backrow & 2 card rage phoenix with both backrow.
Not saying the fire lock isn't ass but this is an improvement
@@johnblunt6693 yeah the floor is better. But the lock takes away so much versatility just to lose to a fenrir lol
@@Jhawk2711 unless you drew exceed your only making bagooska with 2 cards and no backrow in which case you're losing to imperm, dark ruler, forbidden droplet, and every kaiju (for the kaiju it messes up both end boards but you still only invested 1 card)
@@johnblunt6693 never said it was some unbreakable board. It’s just the fact that the line of play is just non existent with this cards lock.
You still can summon heatsoul with mikrocoder in Hand 🥴
The second Effekt is ok, if you have Salemangreat Claw. You attack with the new link 4. destroy it with the new card.
It came back with 5600 attack. Equip it with Claw and otk your opponent if he Control monsters . The Downside you have to play claw. Maybe in the side deck for going second 😄
Kinda slow but a funny option
And maybe we will get more support in the future
Its just a one of that you special summon with will or stallio but it’s good
Imagine giving up Accesscode, Bagooska, Dweller, Splash Mage, Transcode, Update Jammer and Flame Bufferlo for this. Lolno Konami. Put a lock on something that's actually good, not on a fucking Stratos.
The destruction can be used to summon gazelle
The should have made a restriction on sprights so they can't be sed with other level/rank/link 2. Cyberse archetypes works best with eachother like sprights do with other level 2 archetypes.
achichi ignister but salad
You can make heatsoul by using microtalker
"the lock is a show of good design", "also, it doesn't matter because the damage is already been done and no one will play with this card"
idk, what's the point of "good design" if you end up making pack filler?
If all their cards were designed properly this card would be great. Too many cyberse decks are just climbing into accesscode or the other generic link monsters. Defeats the purpose of having other deck types
@@dragonmaster951753 sure, in an ideal world cyberse won't be as generic.
So what? , We print bad support for old archetypes so they keep being bad? their new Link 4 is awful, why locking into him?
This card is just a searcher not even an extender, it didn't need a lock on him, if it was like Circular who is both, yes. of course. But it isn't
@@Badbufon no, we ban accesscode talker and borrelsword.
@@Xenonfuji fair point but what does that do for Salamangreat being Fire locked?
@@Xenonfuji well that just makes salad bad with bad support
Micro coder disrespect is wild 😢
a lot of people are dawging on this card but i think this card is great. it allows salamangreats to play a more compact engine and play a lot more non engine cards. one of my favorite versions of the deck right now is a control build where the deck uses salamangreat as the backbone for a powerful stun/control type build.
The 2nd effect I have a feeling there was a translation error or something, idk.
It's so weird that you self destruct your monster like this during Battle Phase, especially in a deck like Salamangreat where there's no perk in doing so
it triggers your phoenix and because it's on the dmg step, replay doesn't happen for your opponent, which means you can stop zeus
Its because its litterally just Achichi @Ignister in a trenchcoat
@@ryukagefurishira4075 Hmm...yeah, that's fair enough
@@claudio6391 both can be true
You destroy your monster to revive the new link 4 with more attack. I'll play 1-2 copies and maybe reduce debug
I really don't like this card. Salads already have a ton of searchers & don't need anymore. This should also be a level 3 to work with miragestallio. I don't see why anyone would want to use this over flame buffalo.
One guarantees you see a Sallie body, one doesn't.
That does matter, especially in terms of making the other cards work as cheaply as possible, since this is one-card Raging Phoenix.
Also, 'a ton of searchers' matters very little when only one of them is reliable (Circle) and the others either require good RNG (Foxy) or you going -1 before an Ash even rears their ugly forehead (Mining).
It's the "Lady Debug VS Bufferlo" debate all over again, but now the new Debug is also a Salad/Fire. From the first look, with this card you just no longer play 3 Foxy/Spinny/Bufferlo and make room for this, along with 1 Teeger and 1/2 Wheesel.
unplayable card splash mage is a must
Worse Debug
good card, but definitely only a 1 of.
Every salad card reads so mid
Farewell Lady Debug. You are no longer necessary for this deck