as a girl who has been in katie's shoes - he is 100% the way he is because he knows his mother will always protect him. like the other commenter said, her smirk says everything. 100% their son is guilty. i truly feel for katie.
"Nick isn't here because I didn't want to over sensationalize it and put him through this." No, you didn't bring him and brought your lawyer, so you didn't accidentally incriminate yourselves.
So, Instead of holding your kid accountable you pacify and make him the victim? One day, He will choose the wrong person to bully and life will hold him accountable.
No wonder the boy acts the way he does with nasty parents like that. Threatening to kill someone is serious. That’s wild they went on national tv and acted like that. Wow.
The boys mother is sick the way she's acting. If this group was about her son, you can guarantee she wouldnt be acting like its nothing. She's wacked. I stand with Katie and her mom
I'm sure it was hard for the boy and his family, but a little accountability and contrition could have gone a long way, but they don't have the sense or decency to do that.
If Nick had any kind of decency he would have shown his face to apologize but he decided to hide behind mommy's skirt. I'm pretty sure we will reading more about Nick in the future, bullies usually end up being abusers.
With social media, bullying has taken another dimension, it’s a very serious matter, specially among teenagers it can lead to suicide and what not. And the worse is, often the law is not able to do anything about it.
We had a girl harassing continuously our daughter. School did nothing had meetings with girls we knew nothing about our kids aren't allowed social media but our daughter would find out this bully was posting stuff about her. We had meeting one meeting with the parents and I immediately got to see where the girl gets it from. The mother was yelling swearing at me with principle there and threatened my daughter. We had changed classes our daughters schedule and this girl continued to go into her classes "for help", following her harassing her. After that meeting we changed schools.
'We've been hurt too.' That made me angry. No, you have been caught you have a scummy son and equally scummy parent's. 'I belive God has haa me to step up to stop you' No you showed exactly who are are with that statement. A vile woman who is using excuses ans is disgusting.
Bullies are always the victims & there is nothing funny about threats being all a big joke. If poor boy Nick doesn't take responsibility then you can guarantee he'll do it again
the boys parents need to get a rude awakening. They have no clue what their son is doing and possibly should be charged also. The girls mom needs to take this to court and give them a lesson u need to rain in your boy.
I don't trust the mother of the boy. She says one thing about her son being innocent and not involved however I feel that she is not so innocent herself including the father
The boys Mom is a passive aggressive religious person, who bared her true self when she started laughing. It felt like the demon just couldn't hold back
I just left a comment asking if this was passive-aggressive behavior in her. I'm glad to see your comment because I wanted to make sure I was thinking of it correctly.
That mother is unbelievable. Claiming she is working for god and talking down to the girl and her family. That half-assed apology..."sorry, if..." Your son is a bully mom, deal with it, before he becomes a perpetrator of DV.
I would be interested in hearing from other classmates. People can jump to conclusions but often times things aren't what they appear to be at first glance.
The mother has an excuse for everything her child says or does. "He's sorry for the way it was interpreted" simply means he believes he was right to make the comment and it's not his fault how "Kill Katie Club" was interpreted. She claims he did nothing wrong, she was not their she only has her son's word for it. The mother has checked the son's phone records, aside from Katie is he the only other person in the school who owns a phone? could he have bought a burner phone? It feels exactly like it should when your son makes a stupid comment and then has to pay the price for it. If I'd have been nick and I was innocent, aside from a moment of stupidity, I'd have moved heaven and earth to have been on that program, if for no other reasons than to ensure that Katie knew that I deeply regretted putting Katie through all this, to apologise to her and to ensure her that I would make every effort to make things right, no matter what my coddling mother said.
I feel for Katie the victim in this case not the boy who started this from the beginning, it only takes one bad comment to start a downward spiral .. shame on you ! Parents of the boy should have done better by making him responsible !
I’m a teacher and we’ve had students post things like Nick did(death threats). They were expelled and faced criminal charges. I don’t understand why this school did not take action.
I can't believe the comments! Giselle is the real bully. She is hungry for fame. She took the story to the media after the police told her not to. That is not the actions of a mother trying to protect their daughter. A good mother would want it to die down. I think the further bullying by other students is a result of Giselle and Katie and the sensation they turned it into. I don't dismiss that the boy should never have made that post. What about the girl he was communicating with who put her own twist of nastiness into it? People need to get over themselves! When I was a kid we learned about "Sticks and stones." Before you all act as judges, why don't you remember your own mistakes? To Giselle: Let your daughter get over it! Before anybody snaps at me... I'm 68 years old, and I was molested as a child. I believe my adult opinion is valid.
Those parents need to get their son in check. Kids are bringing guns into school and with all the bullying going on this must be taken seriously. I believe their son did start that kill Katie club and he must be dealt with ..
That kid is a punk. In this day & age for him to utilize the word “kill” & identified the girl, who is a victim, is outrageous. And for him to call the family within an hour is in acceptable. These parents, the mother in particular, Michelle, Mother of the punk, her conduct is outrageous and how dare she say that her son “is the victim”. Now. The mom had the opportunity to open her heart and apologize but she made an excuse. Who cares what “Nick” is focused on and her “it’s likewise Katie” is disgraceful. “For 8 months we didn’t have to hear her name”.. what a disgrace. She is a revolting “mother”. That pig smirked on camera… she is lucky the father of this young woman doesn’t handle that pig mother in a different manner. (It’s ridiculous that I have to note that this comment is not an advocation of violence in any respect, if anything, that young single mother and her daughter deserve defending and assistance)
Yup - my 1st thought is they wouldn't be acting this way if the mom was married to a 6'4 man with a rifle slung over his shoulder. (For hunting, of course.) They're definitely picking on what they perceive as "weaker" pack members, a single mom with no defense system and her equally undefended 16 yo girl. Just like the bullies they are.
I honestly would have brought my Son on the Show and made him apologize for his role in this mess. If that’s all it takes to bury the Hatchet, then it seems like a relatively easy fix. However, after that, if Katie and her Mom continued to pull this Drama, then they’ve lost all sympathy with me
"For eight months WE didn't have to think about this"... Oh you poor pathetic non-victims! Such selfish attitudes and no real accountability here, the apologies from that pathetic excuse for a mother mean nothing, they are so insincere! 👎
Just because ur voice is confident doesn’t mean that what ur saying is right, that lady smiling right after the other started speaking is what gave her away immediately
I'm from Philadelphia our school district sucks when it comes to bullying too they will act like there's no big deal and act like there's nothing that can be done with about it That's why I sue and got my son into a private school outside my district I wasn't going for it
Bullying is a behaviour. One can not "become a bully". One can partake in bullying behaviour. EVERY person is capable of bullying and if honest, likely has been a bully, or picked sides, at some point in their lives. Ofcourse, most will not admit it due to their egos. Everyone wants to think THEY are in the right, and no one wants to admit when they are wrong.
This is a very old clip and I have to say that after a re-watch, Dr. Phil did not come out of this looking good. He interrupted Giselle when she was trying to tell HER side of the story, and didn't let her finish her speech by shooshing her. He also seemed to be trivialising what the boy had done. To me, he is clearly only doing this for views.
Nick needs to apologize. His parents need to take responsibility and stop making excuses. They are both wrong. But so are Katie and her mother. Katie was popular in junior high. She bullied Nick. Her calling him names is not the same as him coining the term about the club, but she is not totally innocent in this.
All of you attacking a kid for a stupid comment aren't thinking about the mom running to social media after police requested she didn't do that. You're ignoring the daughter was bullying him and other students. Once it came back at her, her bully mom will take care of it behind the keyboard. What a warrior. She isn't liked by other students for her own actions not what the boy said.
Maybe these people should block social media and then it be less of a problem?? Why grown people are arguing about being tweets and Facebook messages is beyond me
I have a question for anybody who might know the answer... Did Nick's mom come across as passive-aggressive? I don't know if that's the right way to describe her or not, but when she said "I apologize if..." and then something about "he's sorry for how you interpreted it.." and then the "I pray for you" part... It just felt insincere, condescending, and passive-aggressive. (if that's the right way to describe it..) I'm not sure if that's what passive-aggressive is or not, or maybe there's a different name for it?
as a girl who has been in katie's shoes - he is 100% the way he is because he knows his mother will always protect him. like the other commenter said, her smirk says everything. 100% their son is guilty. i truly feel for katie.
She will continue to protect him when he abuses his SO in the future too...
The parents should not protect Nick, he should face the consequences of his actions.
Unfortunately there is so much of this now and was always there,
"Nick isn't here because I didn't want to over sensationalize it and put him through this."
No, you didn't bring him and brought your lawyer, so you didn't accidentally incriminate yourselves.
And the daughter made them all look worse.
Exactly! I remember seeing this from Dr. Phil years ago and the mother of the boy is horrible.
So the son bullied another student and is now being bullied. Sounds like karma to me.
So, Instead of holding your kid accountable you pacify and make him the victim? One day, He will choose the wrong person to bully and life will hold him accountable.
Or, you could lose your grandchildren to an abusive husband and father.....a family annihilator.
If they won't teach their children the world WILL!!
@@freddielind5282then they'll say oh my child was a victim when they was the victimizer😢
@@freddielind5282exactly! Then they'll wish they had of.
Nothing pisses me off more than enabling parents!
Me too
They see themselves as protective parents UNTIL…their child turns on them. Then they can’t ignore the truth anymore.
Sounds like a death threat. They should absolutely take that seriously
That boys mother’s smirk showed it all!
She knew what her precious little boy did.
We see where Nick gets his horrible behavior from. His mom is awful
I completely see that too.
Oh my God, your son is a bully. And your bullies for the way you spoke to that poor girl on stage. Disgusting that your smirking too.
Disgusting parents
No wonder the boy acts the way he does with nasty parents like that. Threatening to kill someone is serious. That’s wild they went on national tv and acted like that. Wow.
Nick's parents are insane. the "Kill Katie Club" was a joke? this sociopath is going to kill women
Yeah exactly!! 'they blew it out of proportion'...
The fact that this boy’s parents won’t come out and have their attorney there speaks volumes.
Shame on the boys mother. She seems delusional to her son’s actions and hiding behind being a Christian.
The mother seems to think that her son can do no wrong.
She is a hypocrite, the second meaning in the dictionary "especially the false appearance of virtue or religion."
And father.
The boys mother is sick the way she's acting. If this group was about her son, you can guarantee she wouldnt be acting like its nothing. She's wacked. I stand with Katie and her mom
I'm sure it was hard for the boy and his family, but a little accountability and contrition could have gone a long way, but they don't have the sense or decency to do that.
both of that boy's parents keep smirking like, this is not funny at all.
Yep.
If Nick had any kind of decency he would have shown his face to apologize but he decided to hide behind mommy's skirt. I'm pretty sure we will reading more about Nick in the future, bullies usually end up being abusers.
That blonde monster in the audience is evil. She knows exactly what is happening.
Oh my... the boys parents are out of line. He needs to accept the consequences for his actions... online is forever.... what a mess....
They way she says she will pray for them as if she's better than them. Ridiculous! Stop using God as a way to hurt others
I literally have never been so mad at a parent like I was with that boys mother
Neither have I.
typical abusers mom defending him. wow. and dr phil just sits there and lets it haoppen
Exactly. They come with a lawyer, and hide in the hreenrrom
He is a bully
@grngooseputterThe girl she's a BULLY she's 💯💯💯%
With social media, bullying has taken another dimension, it’s a very serious matter, specially among teenagers it can lead to suicide and what not. And the worse is, often the law is not able to do anything about it.
Pure evil! I would totally go to the police too! You should never say you're going to kill someone!!!
Why would you immediately need to question your child. Unreal. That mother is an absolute monster
Bullying IS NOT LIKEWISE
They raised their son to be a bully.
You just respond hatefully to all posts.
@@lolacat2420 Ok, stalker.
The blonde mom is a piece of work.
We had a girl harassing continuously our daughter. School did nothing had meetings with girls we knew nothing about our kids aren't allowed social media but our daughter would find out this bully was posting stuff about her. We had meeting one meeting with the parents and I immediately got to see where the girl gets it from. The mother was yelling swearing at me with principle there and threatened my daughter. We had changed classes our daughters schedule and this girl continued to go into her classes "for help", following her harassing her. After that meeting we changed schools.
That mother seemed to think that her son can do no wrong, shame on her. She needs to open her eyes before he actually kills someone.
Good on that mother for doing whatever she needs in order to protect her child!!!!!!! That boys parents are ridiculous.
You can see clearly where Nick gets it from. .
That’s right. Parents like this that don’t discipline their children from the beginning of their lives create entitled monsters.
She prays but she doesn't repent 😮
'We've been hurt too.'
That made me angry. No, you have been caught you have a scummy son and equally scummy parent's.
'I belive God has haa me to step up to stop you' No you showed exactly who are are with that statement. A vile woman who is using excuses ans is disgusting.
Their behavior is disgusting, but they put a warning label on themselves. There's the silver lining.
@@daisiesorchidsholly True social media will destroy them we can take comfort in that. I've never seen a person who has made me so angry.
BOTH of Nick's parents sit there laughing!!! Shame on them!!!!!
this is why parents should take action when their child is getting bullied because at the end of the day it will effect them
Boys mom with a lot of heresay
Bullies are always the victims & there is nothing funny about threats being all a big joke. If poor boy Nick doesn't take responsibility then you can guarantee he'll do it again
I would NEVER have let that family continue to bully the victims. Shame on them. Shame on their son.
The boys parents are terrible no wonder their son is the way that he is
the fact that their lawyer is there, and not the son, tells me all I need to know.
the boys parents need to get a rude awakening. They have no clue what their son is doing and possibly should be charged also. The girls mom needs to take this to court and give them a lesson u need to rain in your boy.
The police need to handle this not the kids parents or anybody at school
I don't trust the mother of the boy. She says one thing about her son being innocent and not involved however I feel that she is not so innocent herself including the father
The boys Mom is a passive aggressive religious person, who bared her true self when she started laughing. It felt like the demon just couldn't hold back
I just left a comment asking if this was passive-aggressive behavior in her.
I'm glad to see your comment because I wanted to make sure I was thinking of it correctly.
That’s not just insane bullying, but that’s absolutely a threat and he should be looked by the police.
Idk,i remember when i was in school,cheerleaders can be real mean to the unpopular kids,i think idk,but i think its got blown way out control.
Parents that take part in the bullying are pure evil. Just admit your kid is a jerk and parent him correctly
11:21 so it's her fault your son can't take accountability and neither can you
He is the way he is because of his mother. 100%
I got the same feeling
That mother is unbelievable. Claiming she is working for god and talking down to the girl and her family. That half-assed apology..."sorry, if..." Your son is a bully mom, deal with it, before he becomes a perpetrator of DV.
The boy’s parents are raising two very dangerous narcissists the sister making a documentary says a lot about them
I would be interested in hearing from other classmates. People can jump to conclusions but often times things aren't what they appear to be at first glance.
This mother needs to be rebuked.
Ummm. Your child can't be interviewed without an adult. That mom is lying!.
Kinda cowardly to not show up
sure protect the bully
This show first aired 13 years ago, so these teens are about 29 years old now. I wonder whatever happened to them, now that they are grown up.
Wow I thought it was recently. Now I wonder the same
The mother has an excuse for everything her child says or does. "He's sorry for the way it was interpreted" simply means he believes he was right to make the comment and it's not his fault how "Kill Katie Club" was interpreted. She claims he did nothing wrong, she was not their she only has her son's word for it. The mother has checked the son's phone records, aside from Katie is he the only other person in the school who owns a phone? could he have bought a burner phone? It feels exactly like it should when your son makes a stupid comment and then has to pay the price for it. If I'd have been nick and I was innocent, aside from a moment of stupidity, I'd have moved heaven and earth to have been on that program, if for no other reasons than to ensure that Katie knew that I deeply regretted putting Katie through all this, to apologise to her and to ensure her that I would make every effort to make things right, no matter what my coddling mother said.
“He’s sorry for how they interpreted it”
Are you serious
Those parents. My god.
I feel for Katie the victim in this case not the boy who started this from the beginning, it only takes one bad comment to start a downward spiral .. shame on you ! Parents of the boy should have done better by making him responsible !
I’m a teacher and we’ve had students post things like Nick did(death threats). They were expelled and faced criminal charges. I don’t understand why this school did not take action.
So Nick is focusing on school right now is why he's not there. Poor Katie is having to watch her back and has to focus on staying live!!!
I can't believe the comments! Giselle is the real bully. She is hungry for fame. She took the story to the media after the police told her not to. That is not the actions of a mother trying to protect their daughter. A good mother would want it to die down. I think the further bullying by other students is a result of Giselle and Katie and the sensation they turned it into.
I don't dismiss that the boy should never have made that post. What about the girl he was communicating with who put her own twist of nastiness into it?
People need to get over themselves! When I was a kid we learned about "Sticks and stones."
Before you all act as judges, why don't you remember your own mistakes?
To Giselle: Let your daughter get over it!
Before anybody snaps at me... I'm 68 years old, and I was molested as a child. I believe my adult opinion is valid.
Those parents need to get their son in check. Kids are bringing guns into school and with all the bullying going on this must be taken seriously. I believe their son did start that kill Katie club and he must be dealt with ..
That kid is a punk. In this day & age for him to utilize the word “kill” & identified the girl, who is a victim, is outrageous. And for him to call the family within an hour is in acceptable. These parents, the mother in particular, Michelle,
Mother of the punk, her conduct is outrageous and how dare she say that her son “is the victim”. Now. The mom had the opportunity to open her heart and apologize but she made an excuse. Who cares what “Nick” is focused on and her “it’s likewise Katie” is disgraceful. “For 8 months we didn’t have to hear her name”.. what a disgrace. She is a revolting “mother”. That pig smirked on camera… she is lucky the father of this young woman doesn’t handle that pig mother in a different manner. (It’s ridiculous that I have to note that this comment is not an advocation of violence in any respect, if anything, that young single mother and her daughter deserve defending and assistance)
Yup - my 1st thought is they wouldn't be acting this way if the mom was married to a 6'4 man with a rifle slung over his shoulder. (For hunting, of course.) They're definitely picking on what they perceive as "weaker" pack members, a single mom with no defense system and her equally undefended 16 yo girl. Just like the bullies they are.
The boy’s parents are ridiculous!
I honestly would have brought my Son on the Show and made him apologize for his role in this mess. If that’s all it takes to bury the Hatchet, then it seems like a relatively easy fix. However, after that, if Katie and her Mom continued to pull this Drama, then they’ve lost all sympathy with me
You know who appears on Dr. Phil with an attorney? Guilty people!!
BE CAREFUL WHO PRAYS FOR YOU
I bet the mother was a bully, her behaviour is shocking!
If this was my daughter, and this was going on in the school, I would remove my child from the school to protect her
"For eight months WE didn't have to think about this"... Oh you poor pathetic non-victims! Such selfish attitudes and no real accountability here, the apologies from that pathetic excuse for a mother mean nothing, they are so insincere! 👎
Oh the power of gaslighting! What fun! Yee Haw!...that friggin' smirk made me sick! Creepy.😅
Nick's parents are ridiculous
He should have been expelled for saying that
Just because ur voice is confident doesn’t mean that what ur saying is right, that lady smiling right after the other started speaking is what gave her away immediately
The boy's mother's attitude, smirk, and comments say a lot about her. Whether or not the boy is a victim or a bully is irrelevant.
I never understand why they don’t block people and get off social media.
10:50 you son said she should die. 😂😂😂
I'm from Philadelphia our school district sucks when it comes to bullying too they will act like there's no big deal and act like there's nothing that can be done with about it That's why I sue and got my son into a private school outside my district I wasn't going for it
This is dumb. Let him say whatever he wants.
The blode mom is bullying Giselle live .
Bullying is a behaviour. One can not "become a bully". One can partake in bullying behaviour. EVERY person is capable of bullying and if honest, likely has been a bully, or picked sides, at some point in their lives. Ofcourse, most will not admit it due to their egos. Everyone wants to think THEY are in the right, and no one wants to admit when they are wrong.
This is a very old clip and I have to say that after a re-watch, Dr. Phil did not come out of this looking good. He interrupted Giselle when she was trying to tell HER side of the story, and didn't let her finish her speech by shooshing her. He also seemed to be trivialising what the boy had done. To me, he is clearly only doing this for views.
The mother of Nick needs to stop coddling his behavior
That evil mother smirking like that in the audience, ugh.
The father of the bully was on stage smiling and laughing. Those parents are as bad as the bully.
What the boys mum doesn't seem to get is they haven't gotten on tv to sensationallise it, they've gone on tv because it HASNT STOPPED.
"l pray for you"
"the hurt is likevise"
---- that's no good answer
The boys mom is still in denial.
I don’t think you should go to the media for high school drama.
Don’t bully ppl
Nick needs to apologize. His parents need to take responsibility and stop making excuses. They are both wrong. But so are Katie and her mother. Katie was popular in junior high. She bullied Nick. Her calling him names is not the same as him coining the term about the club, but she is not totally innocent in this.
He deserves to be in detention because of his HATE comment !!!
All of you attacking a kid for a stupid comment aren't thinking about the mom running to social media after police requested she didn't do that. You're ignoring the daughter was bullying him and other students. Once it came back at her, her bully mom will take care of it behind the keyboard. What a warrior. She isn't liked by other students for her own actions not what the boy said.
All these people are ridiculous
Maybe these people should block social media and then it be less of a problem?? Why grown people are arguing about being tweets and Facebook messages is beyond me
Enablers. Parents ignore the cruelty of their son, hope he learned. Parents didn’t
I have a question for anybody who might know the answer... Did Nick's mom come across as passive-aggressive? I don't know if that's the right way to describe her or not, but when she said "I apologize if..." and then something about "he's sorry for how you interpreted it.." and then the "I pray for you" part... It just felt insincere, condescending, and passive-aggressive. (if that's the right way to describe it..) I'm not sure if that's what passive-aggressive is or not, or maybe there's a different name for it?
Too bad this is old! We need to expose people like Nick!
2:22 did they really edit in a teardrop