What if Anakin KILLED Obi-Wan on Mustafar?
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how much would that cost in pounds? I'm British
Maybe 1p😂🤣
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@@aniakakel8140 ah so I might be able to
no i don't think i will
What if Grievous died on the Invisible Hand?
Obi wan wouldn’t of been sent to Utapau, so depending on where he was sent instead, it could have some serious impacts on the story
Yes please, this has never been done before.
@@crossfire34 I try my best to give original ideas haha
Yes!
Obi-Wan Kenobi: He wouldn't need to zip over to Utapau to square off with Grievous, right? So, he might have been sent on a whole different adventure, or maybe given a completely different task.
That switch-up could have had some major repercussions for Anakin Skywalker. Imagine if Obi-Wan was hanging out in Coruscant instead of being in Utapau? He might have been able to guide Anakin better, possibly even stopping him from turning into Darth Vader.
Order 66: This whole plan hinged on Grievous' downfall, so if Grievous exited the scene earlier, the order might have been rushed forward, shaking up the Jedi survival odds.
Palpatine's own scheming: Grievous was a key chess piece in his game, a crucial tool for stirring up trouble between the Republic and the Separatists. If he lost Grievous, his plans would've likely needed some serious tweaking, possibly shifting the direction of the Clone Wars and the rise of the Empire.
This is all just scratching the surface, though. The ripple effects from Grievous' early demise on the Invisible Hand could have changed countless other aspects of the Star Wars saga.
Pretty sure he just stays in the Temple
If Padme had lived, she would have definitely supported the rebellion behind Vaders back.
Probably not. She was selfish like Anakin in many ways. She will be absolutly on his side, she was accepted most of his bad things.
I don't believe so, since if Padmé lived, it would imply that Anakin didn't break her heart by force-strangling her. She would've convinced him to just run away with her out of sight and out of mind. That was actually the most likely outcome until Anakin saw Obi-Wan had come with Padmé. Don't forget that Anakin turned to the Dark Side for the sole purpose of saving Padmé. One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it.
Not behind his back, she would have done that in front of his face. But to be honest, if she lives through childbirth, Anakin would have killed Palpatine and turned back to the light side
@@Wizisongs I think you're right. After all, when she got to Mustafar she was like "Obi wan said you killed a bunch of kids" and like 30 seconds later was like "Come away with me, all I want is your love." Chick was majorly codependent and would've completely accepted anything Anakin did. I mean, she accepted his decimation of that clan of Tuskan Raiders by telling him "To be angry is to be human". Lol. Imagine that IRL... you tell some hot chick you're into that you killed a bunch of men, women, and children because you believe they had something to do with your mom's death. And then imagine that she responds with "Well, to be angry is to be human". 🤣🤣🤣
@@mmc0425ai mean irl i think the chick would understand if you killed your moms killers
Honestly, the fight scenes in these what ifs are better than anything from the sequels
Absolutely. Kathleen Kennedy even considers Rey as the most powerful Jedi of all time. Apparently she's not looked too much into the real Skywalker name. That's all Disney is good for is destroying what was once great legacies and replacing them with people that are supposedly more powerful than them, but we don't give a thought about because of the direction of the story with terrible directors.
@Daniel Keller wouldn't say thay much, disney is a very well rounded and strong Character. She worked hard for what she has and she suffered....
I had a hard time writing thay screw rey
To be honest, Obi-Wan didn't try all that hard to appeal to Anakin back in the movie. He already wrote Anakin off as a traitor and didn't even plead for him to tell him why he did it. All he could do was condemn Anakin and then say "Anakin my allegiance is to the Republic, to democracy!", knowing full well that the democracy that he and many of the Jedi tied themselves to showed itself to be corrupt because of Palpatine.
thats true, but it's also hard to have much faith in someone that just killed a bunch of children
@Dojindori Yes, but Anakin wasn't all that far gone just yet. All Obi-Wan did was push Anakin further into darkness. Not to mention that after finding out what Anakin did, Obi-Wan pleaded with Yoda to send him to fight Palpatine and said he can't kill Anakin. Notice he said, "Kill Anakin". He was already going to kill Anakin.
Also, with all that brother talk that kept on saying before, Obi-Wan was pretty quick to throw that out on Mustafar. Had it been Qui-Gon teaching Anakin and he was in this position, Qui-Gon would have tried to appeal to the Jedi he knew and trained, not the Sith Lord that he had yet to become. There is even an article by Star Wars confirming that Qui-Gon would have saved Anakin from the Dark Side. But in a way, that kind of thing happens in ROTJ, with Luke appealing to Anakin Skywalker, not Darth Vader.
Also noticed how obi wan activated his lightsaber first and didn’t even try to understand the lies the Jedi were telling… that palpatine used to manipulate anakin
@@kingtrentinius659 what was Obi Wan supposed to do Anakin had literally spat on everything that Obi wan had taught him and killed hundreds of children . Anakin had done something so horrible and unforgivable. Obi wan couldn’t continue to blindly a-quit Anakin of his selfishness and cruel deeds at the temple .
@@satinekenobi4ver855 he couldn’t a-quit Anakin of his cruel deeds…. Yet they were pissed with Anakin for killing Dooku who was responsible for multiple Jedi, soldier, and civilian deaths. They went to palpatine with the intentions of arresting him.
The council even goes over how bad it is to leave Anakin around Palp, but still do it. Palp tells anakin the Jedi want to take over. Mace and Yoda contemplate it then Mace tells palp they’re taking power from him (check).
Mace repeats the same thing as Palp “ he’s to dangerous to be kept alive.” Anakin suggests he be arrested after being punished for Dooku. Mace continues against the Jedi code that he just reprimanded anakin for days prior.
Wants anakin to get over attachments. Yet they use obi wans fake death to provoke his emotions that come with attachments. The council even tried to use his padawan as a scapegoat.
Then you get to Anakin vs Obi Wan. Padme tries to talk him down… obi wan ruins it causing Anakin to react out of fear and anger. They are having a conversation and Obi Wan ignites his lightsaber that anakin hadn’t even touched yet. On the lava they are talking “ I was told the Jedi are evil.” Obi wans reply “was you’re lost”…He didn’t even try to de-escalate the situation, which is the job of the Jedi.
Meanwhile the Jedi had been showing anakin they were corrupt. I mean no one’s perfect, but the shit they would do or say sometimes would make me question them too
Impossible. Anakin would stay at her side, too scared to lose her because of his vision, and even if he leave, he always sensed when danger is close to Padmé. He would have sense it coming. This Fan Theory did not respect Anakin's ability and way of acting, nothing of that would have happened. Also, how did Palpatine Knew the exact l'occasion ? I mean, he is powerful, he would have find out, but that was to quickly to be possible.
Yeah maybe anakin told him or he just assumed she was alive cause anakin was messing
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What If Ahsoka was at the Jedi Temple during Order 66
Yes!
He was slaughtering the younglings lol 😂 but in all seriousness the clones wouldn't have attacked him because palpatine specifically put on order 66 that Anakin would not be considered a jedi when activated so the clones would most likely still acknowledge there general while they purge the temple
I just realised you wrote Ahsoka not Anakin lol 😆 😂
@@MB_RandomEdits you done messed up
@@DarkLordSauronrocks true 💀💀🤣
I always wondered how Sidious planned on controlling Anakin before Mustafar. Anakin’s injuries made it so much easier. He had to have known that Anakin would eventually surpass him and try to overthrow him, such is the rules of the Sith.
He was planning on taking over his body, probably right when Anakin/Vader strikes the Emperor down.
I think Palpatine wanted Vader to take his position, as he said "Lord Vader will become more powerful than either of us". Obviously after Mustafar, Palpatine deemed Vader too weak
@@seyacosmoprowertheseedrian2757 But Sidious isn’t the type to give up power.
@@bigevil1001 He did, if you look up his fight against Yoda, just before he ignites his saber he says this. "Lord Vader will become more powerful than either of us"
@@bigevil1001 The canon seems to establish that he would have agreed with it. I think about Operation Cinder in Battlefront 2. Palpatine's orders were that, should he be killed, imperial planets would be destroyed because in his eyes, an Empire that didn't protect its ruler doesn't deserve to exist. The ONLY situation Operation Cinder wouldn't be activated is if his death was caused by Vader in an effort to take his place.
Great video and I’m not trying to put hate on you but Kenobi definitely didn’t let his morals and emotions take over after their duel by leaving him on the Lava Bank to “live” he believes he died as is known after these events. What he should have done was take him back to Padme’s ship before he was burnt and saved him and turn him back like Qui Gon would have instead he lets him suffer more.
Good story. However, I don't think Padme would've wanted to stay with Anakin, given that he just murdered Obi-wan, became a Sith, betrayed the republic, and slaughtered younglings.
Yup
I don't think she'd have a choice.
I Don't think padme would have known Anakin killed obi wan and for the younglings that's just something Obi wan has told her without any proof. After given birth none of that would even matter in the short term to padme all she would be thinking about is her babies.
He touched the childs ...
Those younglings had it coming!
These stories get better & better seriously keep it up man 🔥🔥🔥🔥
what if the vote of no confidence in valorum failed
you actually get the answer to this in the video game version of revenge of the sith. it is the ending of beating the game with anakin
It happened on the Star Wars ROTS Video Game
Alternative title- What if Obi-wan didn't have plot armour. The guy should have been dead/ crippled 3 times. 1. In EP 1 Maul had a clear view of Kenobi and had extremely fast reflexes so Kenobi jumping vertically( passing right in front of Maul) would leave the assassin enough time to chop him in half 2. In RoTS Count Dooku brought an entire platform on him after knocking him uncontious which should have crushed his legs. 3. In RoTS, during his duel with Vader, Kenobi was clearly the weaker figher and should have lost even before the lava bank. Even if we were to assume that he somehow got the high ground Anakin/ Vader totally would have made that jump. He had more space to work with than Kenobi in EP 1 and we have seen him jump much bigger heights. To me, this should have been the true ending.
EDIT: On another note, there is no way in hell that Vader would leave Padme alone in the medical facility. He would constantly be around her and brutally murder Cad after torturing him for information. Upon learning who sent him he would begin planning his revenge and hide his family. He would possibly go back to Sidious and pretend nothing had happened. Maybe learn under him for a bit and then kill him in an epic duel.
blud wrote an entire essay on fucking plot armour
@@junjunregaladobasketball1606 but it does have some good points and honestly as a big prequel fan I really like the version of the theory
@@JclMaverick yeah it does have great points
LOL YOU REALLY HATE HIM
Finally, it's refreshing to see someone with a rational take on this fight. Kenobi is most overrated plot shielded character in the entire series. He's always as strong as he needs to be. It's dumb.
Since I discovered your channel, your what ifs are really fun to watch. Love all of them
Agreed, though there is one that I don’t find all that realistic
He just steals videos from PPSW
He does make good content, but only by stealing ideas from other creators only weeks after the original creator published their video
These videos keep getting more detailed and better
Hi!
If it's possible, I would like to suggest an idea for a story.
So what if Padmé was a light force user but kept her abilities hidden until she was entered childbirth on Polis Massa. Feeling certain complications during the process and her own physical weakness, she start using the force to help the twins be born and strengthen herself physically; Obi-Wan and Yoda sensed this and immediately began hiding Padmé and the children in the Force from the Siths.
You can come up continuing with your own.
Thanks for your attention.
I loved this video, I would love for you to continue this video in a second part. I don't know if he would have approved the construction of the death star, perhaps if it had not passed as the emperor's fist and the risk of losing his role. Would there be a rebel alliance, and what would Yoda have done, hide on Dagobah?
Ok this story is very good and I do which it wus longer and I holp you mack a nuther part to this one and keep up the good work and my the force be with you
What if Grievous escaped Utapau for Mustafar and then Anakin tried to kill Grievous and the other separatists and then Grievous and Obi-wan team up to fight Anakin on Mustafar?
What if Anakin trained Grogu?
This one was amazing. I can see this playing out in an alternate Revenge of the Sith timeline
i feel like anakin would have reflected on his actions after palpatines demise, and turn to the light, and the dark, using both sides without letting them control him. and also he could have just revived padme like with ahsoka.
loved the video
Ahsoka wasn't revived. You can see her running down a tunnel leaving the Sith temple behind when she fought Vader. Ezra didn't know this happened and pulled her through the portal in the world between worlds. It's also loosely explained that Ezra was only able to pull her through the portal because her survival was a canon event.
I love how he just made the licmghtsaber red right away
this is so dope
imagine if there was like another star wars series made that’s like an alternate universe where anakin wins and reaches his full potential
these are all the what if ideas I have right now, some related to others
1. what if the Sith Empire returned during the High Republic era?
2. what if Jyn Erso survived Rogue one?
3. what if Padme was arranged to marry for the republic?
4. what if Avar Kriss and Elzar Mann had a child shortly after becoming knighted?
5. what if Anakin was born during the High Republic era?
6. what if Cal and Merrin got married?
7. (connected to 5) what if Cal and Merrin have a daughter?
8. (connected to 2) what if Luke Skywalker and Jyn Erso fell in love?
9. what if the Mortis gods survived?
10. (connected to 8) what if the Daughter became a jedi?
11. (connected to 8 and 2) what if Ray was Luke's daughter?
12. (probably does happen and connected to 6 and 5) what if Cal and Merrin joined Luke's new Jedi order?
13. what if the Clone wars happened during the High Republic era?
14. what if Star Light Beacon didn't fall?
15. what if the Yuuzhan vong invaded during the High Republic era?
16. what if the Yuuzhan vong invaded during the galactic civil war?
17. what if the Yuuzhan vong invaded during the clone wars?
18. what if Cal trained Luke?
19. what if Luke fell in love with Ahsoka?
20. what if Ezra joined Maul?
21. what if Ezra and Sabine had a child?
22. what if Sabine was force sensitive?
23. what if Sabine became ruler of Mandalour?
24. what if the empire didn't attack Mandalour during the night of a thousand tears?
25. what if Avar Kriss trained Luke Skywalker?
26. what if Avar Kriss trained Anakin Skywalker?
27. what if Luke Skywalker awoke Dagan Gera?
28. what if the Nihil returned during the original trilogy?
29. what if Luke Skywalker fell in love with Doctor Aphra?
30. what if Leia chose to become a Jedi after Endor?
31. what if Han checked for a tracking device before going to Yavin in A New Hope?
32. what if Luke arrived late to Jabba's palace during return of the Jedi?
33. what if Revin was put into stasis and was woken up during the original trilogy?
34. what if Kanan jarrus trained Luke Skywalker?
35. what if Ezra trained Luke Skywalker?
36. what if Nute Gunray was removed from leader of the trade federation after phantom menace?
37. what if the Rakattan infinite empire returned during the Original trilogy?
38. what if the Mandalorian wars never ended?
39. what if the Jedi-Sith war didn't end until 0ABY?
40. what if the Yuuzhan vong invaded during the First Order-resistance war?
41. what if the Combine from Half life invaded the star wars galaxy?
42. what if star wars and Star trek were in the same universe?
43. what if Padme was enslaved by Jabba?
44. what if all of Inferno Squad defected to the New Republic?
45. what if Gregor survived star wars rebels?
46. what if Avar Kriss was enslaved by the hutts during the High Republic era?
sorry if there are any that have already been done, but I think most of these are original
Nice ideas man👍. But how long took you to write this comment🤨?????
@@danilocvetanovic4962 well I can't remember how long it took me to write the original comment which was on another TH-cam channel that does what if's (it was only too forty one until I remembered the slave Padme what if) so I added that and two more, would have added a third but I couldn't think of an idea.
but this is just that comment but copied and pasted because there is no way I am writing that whole thing down again without forgetting some.
so basically I copied and pasted my original comment
@@reeceemms1643 ok thanks
@@danilocvetanovic4962 your welcome, all of those are ones that I want to see, some more than others, the ones I'm mostly into the most are 1 to 4, 6 to 12, 15 to 19, 21 to 24, 27, 29 to 35, 37 to 39 and 41 to 46
I like #41
According to the novelization, Anakin intended to kill Palpatine after he was done with Obi-Wan. Padme would've died from heartbreak. It's a toss up whether or not the children would die with her. Regardless, the Empire would've remained in power for a much longer time period.
What if mace windu didn’t go with the Jedi masters but Anakin went to yoda instead?
Shit
What if Darth Maul killed Obi Wan on Naboo
I think I've done this?
@@FantasyFolklore you did however it was what if Darth Maul killed Obi-wan and Qui-Gon
What if ahsoka tano turns to the dark side?
It’s like watching him waving action figures around to illustrate the battle
Cool video great what if
What if the republic had their own general grievous, a renowned jedi master who was badly injured during a mission or a renowned republic judiciary soldier becomes the template?
What is Emperor Palpetine Killed Yoda in Revenge of the Sith? Or what if count dooku never turned to the dark side?
It would probably turn out this way but tbh there’s no way that Yoda wouldn’t since Obi wans death and think things wouldn’t go horribly wrong because he’s still alive at this point.. Also because of that I think the story would change little bit. I think Yoda will sneak into the medical bay after Cad Bane left and take Luke and Leia sending Vader deeper into the dark side but I think he will end up taking Luke as his apprentice. As I think Luke will join him after Yoda telling Luke that he is his father, but Laia will end up as a Jedi because I think that was the fate, because in Empire strikes back Yoda says there is another and I think that has more meaning than we realize. So I think that is what would happen In this senario..
I also think Vader killing the Emperor would have him fight half of the empire, because the empire was behind the emperor and there no way and after fighting. I think Vader will change the new empire immediately instead of closer to the original trilogy idk that’s what what I think. Interesting what if though!
i got therory what if count dooku didn't turn to the dark side
I think that has been done by quite a few people, though it would be good to see another interpretation, and it was also done in an ark ok the clone wars even though it was a force illusion that was made to deceive Yoda
What time is this video coming Out I don't want to wait all damn day. I have shit to do.
What if anakin left obi wan on general grievous’s Star ship?
Hi again, I might do a reaction on this tomorrow
Ok cool
@Fantasy Folklore the reaction is in my reaction. Playlist
If Anakin was human, with that 1 mechanic hand, he would have been a strength to never control
What if The Force Itself Trained Anakin Skywalker
I think that is a bit too far
It is, but I think you could make it work, like...
*"What if Anakin was raised on Mortis?"*
i remember an ending like that in revenge of the sith game on my ps2
What if Maul and Savage were on dathomir during the attack on the nightsisters
Where is the clip of Kenobi carrying padme down the ramp at 3:20 from
What if Leia was raised on Tatooine? And Luke was raised on Aldreean?
Luke would hate vader for destroying alderaan
Well that took a dark turn
What is the song at 9:20 that plays throughout the fight of Anakin vs Palpatine?
What if Darth Sidious never existed and was just replaced with Darth Plagueis?
Plegueis will still be able to make Anakin his student, but he will be much better Sith teacher than Palpatine. Plagueis was not half bad as Palpatine, Palpatine was maniac, even on Sith code. Plagueis was on ether hand one of that "better" sith lorda.
Vader: I’m not going be father anymore and my children beat up with me.
next do what if anikan didnt cut off mace windus hand
Could you do a What if the clone army didn't have accelerated ageing and was created during The Naboo Crisis please?
one problem I have is that Anakin shouldn't have hated Obiwan in this timeline, the Iconic "I HATE YOU" line was only after Obiwan defeated Anakin after mutilating his legs so it's perfectly possible Anakin might have spared Obiwan if he was victorious, if Anakin would have killed Obiwan anyway he would have likely felt shame and guilt not triumph
I don’t see this as a possibility, because he already thought of Obi-wan as his enemy before the fight began
@@JustANervousWreck Obiwan was Anakins master for 20 years, by the late stages of the clone wars they had great relations and generally there was no bad blood between them, so if Anakin managed to disarm or heavily injure Obiwan why would Anakin kill him? Obiwan would have no threat to Anakin's final goal of saving Padme
What if obiwans and anikans duel ended in a stalemate
what do they use for the animation? is it from a game
What if a frogs had wings it wouldn't bump his ass every time it jumped
Yo! I was not expecting that animation at 2:12 ! Where did you get it from?
It's from The PlayStation 2 video game revenge of the Sith. It's a clip from the last level of the game called alternate ending. You get the chance to play as Anakin in the final fight, but your objective is to win.
What if the wampa killed luke on hoth
What if instead of anakin turning evil, obi wan was in anakin’s place?
Since people are suggesting WIs, here's one
*What if Kirak got Momin's mask?*
Why? Because they were the two big additions made to the Darth Vader comics a few years back and happened almost at the same time, with Vader meeting the ancient Sith Lord soon after getting the Jedi Master's lightsaber
What if Anakin never planted his Jedi seeds in Padme
I dont know how to react to this... There is no reaction meme to describe how this comment makes me feel emotionally.
I don't think that's possible. I mean she's Natalie Portman!
What if Obi-Wan was injured and had to have the suit or new limbs attached and Anakin was fine in all his power how would that story go
What if Merrin was found by the Jedi and was the sister of Asajj Ventress? Maybe she would be given up by Talzin to Mace Windu to not have Merrin become like Asajj, becoming his padawan. Yellow or purple lightsabers would be awesome in duel wielding. She could be 3 years younger than Asajj. When Asajj is betrayed by Dooku, she heads back to Talzin and is given the same type of necklace she gave to Savage, messaging Merrin to the Coruscant underworld, unkowingly tailed by Master Windu. Both sisters defend Dathomir after failing to assassinate Dooku in exchange for Asajj's freedom. Could both sisters kill Grievous? How would this news affect Sidious?
FINALLY!
What if asoka tano arrived to mustafar a few minutes after obi-wan kanobi does. Then mere seconds before anakin attacks obi-wan kanobi whose defending the high ground. Both asoka and padme decide to attempt to hold and stun anakin skywalker in mid jump hopefully they succed allowing for the fallen jedi turned sith to have a chance at redemption. Kind regards from Daniel Harman.
2:19 best childhood game ever
If Anakin had killed Obi-Wan on Mustafar, that would've been the greatest troll ever by George Lucas.
wicked twist killing Padme
I highly doubt Padme would want to stay with Anakin after the atrocities he just committed😂😂😂
huh i never noticed that within a couple seconds from1:08 obi wans saber changes
What if Padme went to the Temple during Order 66
Oh I seen this in the Revenge of the Sith game a what if scenario where Anakin dodges and kills Obi Wan then Palptine and took over
2:00 what is the name of the song?
What if Padme was assassinated in the movie attack of the clones?
What if Padme didn't fall out of the ship when Anakin and Obi Wan went to face count dooku? (think Anakin not being angry, and doesn't rush at dooku).
What if Obi Wan was sent to protect Padme on naboo instead of Anakin?
Naaaahhh. Sideous isn't direct like that, plus Bane would have left too many witnesses. Additionally, keeping Padme alive keeps Anakin in his pocket it justifies his earlier comments about the dark side being the way to save her - as killing his former master and taking her to Naboo in this manner would have done so.
Would have been more interesting to see Anakin eventually supplant Sideous when Sid goes too far in after trying to poison their marriage and then attempting to corrupt his children - which would have been the final straw. Sideous would be doing this because I agree with another poster that Padme would be working with the rebellion. Thus putting Anakin in a tug of war/double agent situation.
@FantasyFolklore what if Luke killed palpatine in return of the Jedi? Thank you
What if annakin opened up right away about his feeling for padme
What if kit fisto trained Anakin?
what song is it at 8:50?
Make one where qui gon Jin never died and fought Anakin
So how long did Vador rule the Galaxy and does he ever die in this theory?
Dang this is insane
Wait what happens to yoda on this timeline
11:32 what movie is that from?
He had his metal hand on his throat idc it was a wrap the second that happens🤣
How come your voice is different in some videos or is it two different people
padme amidalas heart was already broken on mustafar !
What if more jedi followed count dukoo against the republic
Was that a game? 2:25 if so what game was it?
"You should've gotten to somewhere higher"
What if Mother Talzin discovered Maul on Lotho Minor?
They wouldn't be sith they'd just be the most powerful force users to ever exist!
*Serious question*
What if Anakin gets the rank of Master?
What if Palpatine tripped and fell into the lava whilst rescuing vader
What if Anakin cut off Obi wans limbs and he burnt and had to go in a white Vader suit 😂
At 10:02 Anakin's lightsaber is red it should be blue
Right
I think anakin wouldve sensed that padme was in trouble. And save her.
What if Darth Maul was cut in half vertically intead of horizontally??
What if Dooku become Sith leader od Galaxy after clone wars. He kill Anakin and Obivan on Geonoses and after kill Sidious.
What if padme's ship engine hadn't break