Fun fact: one of Barton's student was Jean Joseph Renaud , a highly regarded fencer(foil & épée)writer/playwright/journalist. His magnum opus is *Défense dans la Rue* _Defence in the Street_ where he explains a french counterpart to Bartitsu: the method is quasi similar except the cane guard is different(middle line) and he adds the knife & the revolver into the curriculum. He also wrote a treaty on fencing (foil/épée/sabre) & various article available in french at Wiki AMHE on his page I also have a physical copy of the DDLR book !
@Whammer79 I think I read somewhere that the Times newspaper in an article incorrectly referred to “Bartitsu” as “Baritsu” and this mispelling was presumably read and carried in error into the Sherlock Holmes book by the author Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
This is brill. All the best stuff. Some Juijitsu, Western boxing, good dose of Judo, Savate kicks, and a good dose of fencing! Even Bruce Lee would be impressed with that. Good stuff.
A guy I went to uni with who runs one of the London clubs he's also instructor level in Jeet Kune do and a krav maga black belt. picked up both of them really quickly due to his Bartitsu background.
Pretty awesome! I met a few Bartitsu practitioners at a gothic steampunk event in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania years ago. I wish I had more time to appreciate the art more.
Unbelievable research on the Art of Bartitsu, you tell very well and with a great source of information to support, I am practical of Ju-Jutsu and I would love to learn this Self-Defense System (Bartitsu), a question Do you know any web page or book that shows the techniques for beginners at the Bartitsu? “Greetings from Argentina 🥋✋ .
So many martial arts and variations and amalgamations of martial arts. In my time I have studied quite a few. Judo under many greats such as Jacques LeGrand, Karl Geis, Phil Porter, Anton Geesink, Sumiyuki Kotani Shihan who taught me Nage No Kata. Shotokan Karate under 5 time All Japan Champion Takayuki Mikami, Wado Ryu Karate under it's founder Hironori Otsuka, Tomiki Aikido under his student Karl Geis. Kuk Sool Won under it's founder, Grand Master Kuk Sa Nim (Suh, In Hyuck), as well as many others too numerous to name. Now in my 80s I am resigned to defending myself using what I call Hikigane Yubi Do, which I believe translates roughly to Trigger Finger Way. That's right. Now in my 80s I'm too old to take the chance of fighting off an aggressor when it's so much easier and more effective to rely on the handgun that I always carry. Here in Louisiana where I have a concealed handgun permit, it's not even needed because in Louisiana open carry is legal. Funny law - carry your gun where everybody can see you have it is legal but cover it up and you need a concealed handgun permit. Thanks, Chadi for introducing another interesting martial art to your fans.
Osu! Went on a training trip to Japan in '84, with Dan Ivan. It was an IMAF tour. We were instructed by various masters of Japanese martial arts. Some of the guys then, were in their 80's. A couple of the swordsmen, Batojustu, actually worked for the Imperial Family, as executioners. During that trip, we had Judo classes at the Embassy & I was lucky enough to go to Yamaguchi 'the cats' Dojo & also to Otska Sensei's. The Cat was in a wheelchair & his son was giving class. Sounds like you have great memories too 👍🏼 'Nana Arobi Ya Oki'
Nice to see some familiar techniques, in the demonstration a few minutes in (ancient japanese video) As a former Jiu jitsuka, i can do most of those techniques shown.
Yes one of my favorites I've studied this when I got back into martial arts at University, this and Shorinji Kan Jiu Jitsu(the jitsu foundation) are the closest Britain has come to having it's own Jujitsu.
This guys is way ahead of his time. Even now. It's like MMA + Equinox gym. It can all work. Fencing can work if you use an umbrellas or a cane. A cane with a curved handle, or an umbrella, can be a hooking weapon like a tonfa or a hook sword. It can be a gold mine if someone can execute it. All of the elements are already there separately. LA boxing + tae kwon do + kendo + judo + jujitsu + ballet + Equinox = New Bartitsu.
Hey Chadi, I'm doing a presentation in a few months about a pamphlet that fencing master Alfred Hutton wrote during his time at the Bartitsu Club about Yukio Tani's Jiu-Jitsu, and how it compares to modern BJJ and medieval European wrestling. I'm 99% sure I've interpreted the techniques in the pamphlet correctly, but I'm trying to find video examples from the time period to confirm my interpretations and see if there's any nuances I'm missing. Could you provide the sources for the videos in your video, so that I can see if there's any more content I can draw from?
For Savate(sources in french) : *La Boxe (La Savate) Pratique, Offensive et Defensive, Conseils Pour Le Combat Dans La Rue* - Julien Leclerc (For the more combative savate) *L'art de la boxe française et de la canne : nouveau traité pratique et théorique* - Joseph Charlemont (For the "academic" savate) ==> also include a part on the cane For the Jujitsu , i haven't the original japonese version but the french ones(close enough to the bartitsu's) : *Comment se défendre* - Georges Dubois *Les secrets du Jiu-Jitsu* - Ernest Regnier *Manuel de Jiu-Jitsu : Coups usuels à l'usage des sociétés de gymnastique, de l'armée et du public en général* & *Je me défends toute seule* - Armand Cherpillod *Jiu Jitsu Pratique* - Charles Péchard *Les Sports de Défense* - Emile Maitrot *L’art de se défendre dans la rue avec ou sans armes* - Emile André Hope this helps !!!
There is a french counterpart called *Defense dans la Rue*: it combines Cane fighting, Savate, Boxing and Jujitsu like Bartitsu and the book is quite complete on the method
As i said in another message, the closest thing we got is *Defense Dans la Rue* by Jean Joseph Renaud , a student of Wright & a formidable duelist (foil/épée/sabre & pistols) on his own. Renaud's method sligthly differs by his cane guard position & usage of the knife and the revolver.
Hello Chadi! Thank you for your informative videos. I did not know that Kano sent Tani to England. Can you give me the source of this information? It would be important for a book I am writing. Thank you.
The British Bruce. "Limey" Lee. Enter the Tea Kettle. I could do this all day. I like this guy though. He's like the first British Mixed Martial Artist. Thanks for the video.
@@Chadi thanks. To me the combination of Savate and Jujitsu in Defense Le Dans Rue means that the art is so close to Bartitsu that it is hard to differentiate the two arts. I am certainly not arguing that one art stole from the other. But that two groups came to same conclusion about self defense.
@@Chadi sure meaning no or sure meaning I don't give a f*** like just don't even bother responding if u not interested in the knowledge and seeing how judo compares to those traditional arts
I asked my father [who trained in Karate] if he would be afraid to fight a black belt, he looked at me and said " I'd be more afraid of fighting a man who has a yellow belt in 6 martial arts than an average black belt." , after seven martial arts [I took them till yellow or blue] I agree. Now that I'm older, I agree more and more and look to arts like Silat and Jujitsu to work on in my looming old age as as I'm 55 now and am getting slower but more tactical in my approach ...
日本の柔道、柔術の動画を多数出していただいて嬉しく思います。 日本では「ばちつ」ではなく「バリツ」、「バーティッツ」と呼ばれることが多いですね。 I am glad to see that you have put out a number of videos on Japanese Judo and Jiu-Jitsu. In Japan, it is often called "baritsu" or "bertitsu" instead of "bachitsu".
Hey Chadi! Off topic, but you should totally look into Nick Yonezuka's TH-cam page. He's been demonstrating some amazing No-Gi Judo and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it!
I think Bartitsu has a cross connection to Jkd. I could be totally wrong *(or Bruce was pretty familiar with the art himself)!!!!* Bruce Lee drew heavily from western (& eastern sources) sources between boxing and fencing when he created Jkd. And the moment the Tao of Jkd was release. He strip away the trapping components of Wing Chun (focus on the 4 corner parry from Wing Chun structure), and focus heavily on boxing & fencing instead. Either it's a coincidence or a fluke?
They both had a similar martial background:old school Boxing,Savate,Judo and Fencing. Bruce was even more eclectic,with Muay Thai,Karate,Arnis and so on,but they definetly share many core elements,to the point that they could flow well together.
Don't think the Sherlock Holmes connection is strictly accurate, though the founder Edward Barton Wright was an interesting character. Great video as always Chadi, thanks
@@Chadi Your right Chadi, my apologies, interesting system though with the boxing and wrestling influences and of course the jujitsu influence from Japan.
If it wasn't for the anime Kengan ashura. I probably would have never heard of this fighting style. Also, for some reason they change to origins of Bartitsu.
The only person with less credential that started their own marshal art was Jigoro Kano! Three years in japan is more than enough time to master all jujitsu and judo moves. but how can you become Swiss wrestling in that time. As a Black belt in Bartitsu I know its as useless as Maui Thai. Just save yourself some time and learn how to throw a green Chi ball. ( Hint green Chi seems to be the most powerful)
Fun fact: one of Barton's student was Jean Joseph Renaud , a highly regarded fencer(foil & épée)writer/playwright/journalist.
His magnum opus is *Défense dans la Rue* _Defence in the Street_ where he explains a french counterpart to Bartitsu: the method is quasi similar except the cane guard is different(middle line) and he adds the knife & the revolver into the curriculum.
He also wrote a treaty on fencing (foil/épée/sabre) & various article available in french at Wiki AMHE on his page
I also have a physical copy of the DDLR book !
Sherlock Holmes mentions Baritsu by name in 'The adventure of the empty house'
Great video and subject as usual!
Thank you
Unfortunately he called it "Baritsu" instead of "Bartitsu" so the name of the art changed
you do know that sherlock holmes isn't real?
@Whammer79 I think I read somewhere that the Times newspaper in an article incorrectly referred to “Bartitsu” as “Baritsu” and this mispelling was presumably read and carried in error into the Sherlock Holmes book by the author Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
@@johnboy2349 Does that mean if he mentions karate it wouldn't be real?
This is brill. All the best stuff. Some Juijitsu, Western boxing, good dose of Judo, Savate kicks, and a good dose of fencing! Even Bruce Lee would be impressed with that. Good stuff.
Thank you
A guy I went to uni with who runs one of the London clubs he's also instructor level in Jeet Kune do and a krav maga black belt. picked up both of them really quickly due to his Bartitsu background.
Pretty awesome! I met a few Bartitsu practitioners at a gothic steampunk event in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania years ago. I wish I had more time to appreciate the art more.
Fill me in
Unbelievable research on the Art of Bartitsu, you tell very well and with a great source of information to support, I am practical of Ju-Jutsu and I would love to learn this Self-Defense System (Bartitsu), a question Do you know any web page or book that shows the techniques for beginners at the Bartitsu? “Greetings from Argentina 🥋✋ .
Thank you
So many martial arts and variations and amalgamations of martial arts. In my time I have studied quite a few. Judo under many greats such as Jacques LeGrand, Karl Geis, Phil Porter, Anton Geesink, Sumiyuki Kotani Shihan who taught me Nage No Kata. Shotokan Karate under 5 time All Japan Champion Takayuki Mikami, Wado Ryu Karate under it's founder Hironori Otsuka, Tomiki Aikido under his student Karl Geis. Kuk Sool Won under it's founder, Grand Master Kuk Sa Nim (Suh, In Hyuck), as well as many others too numerous to name. Now in my 80s I am resigned to defending myself using what I call Hikigane Yubi Do, which I believe translates roughly to Trigger Finger Way. That's right. Now in my 80s I'm too old to take the chance of fighting off an aggressor when it's so much easier and more effective to rely on the handgun that I always carry. Here in Louisiana where I have a concealed handgun permit, it's not even needed because in Louisiana open carry is legal. Funny law - carry your gun where everybody can see you have it is legal but cover it up and you need a concealed handgun permit. Thanks, Chadi for introducing another interesting martial art to your fans.
Thank you very much for listening🙇🏻♂️
Those are some big names in your list! You are very fortunate to have trained with them! Glad you are having a great journey! Respect 💮
Osu! Went on a training trip to Japan in '84, with Dan Ivan. It was an IMAF tour. We were instructed by various masters of Japanese martial arts. Some of the guys then, were in their 80's. A couple of the swordsmen, Batojustu, actually worked for the Imperial Family, as executioners. During that trip, we had Judo classes at the Embassy & I was lucky enough to go to Yamaguchi 'the cats' Dojo & also to Otska Sensei's. The Cat was in a wheelchair & his son was giving class.
Sounds like you have great memories too 👍🏼
'Nana Arobi Ya Oki'
Mokichi Robinson from Kengan Ashura/Omega liked this video instantly
It's TH-cam so it's possible
However, Rian Kure put a stop to that. Lol
@@kepahanakahi yes he did 😅 also to Alan Wu
That’s right!
Facts
Nice to see some familiar techniques, in the demonstration a few minutes in (ancient japanese video) As a former Jiu jitsuka, i can do most of those techniques shown.
Man Chadi you posted a ton of great content in the last few weeks!
Brilliant video on the subject and great narrative Chadi.🤔💯👌👊👍🙏
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Yes one of my favorites I've studied this when I got back into martial arts at University, this and Shorinji Kan Jiu Jitsu(the jitsu foundation) are the closest Britain has come to having it's own Jujitsu.
Awesome Lewis! Thank you for sharing
Very informative vid. Thank you.
This guys is way ahead of his time. Even now.
It's like MMA + Equinox gym.
It can all work. Fencing can work if you use an umbrellas or a cane. A cane with a curved handle, or an umbrella, can be a hooking weapon like a tonfa or a hook sword.
It can be a gold mine if someone can execute it. All of the elements are already there separately.
LA boxing + tae kwon do + kendo + judo + jujitsu + ballet + Equinox = New Bartitsu.
One of the first European modern martial arts. Someone must revive this art. An art from Victorian area is so elegant
I believe its been revived.
@@SI-ln6tc there are several uk clubs
New York and UK has it today
What a fantastic world, the one of the martial arts. Everyday I find out about a new one! It is so fascinating! I love them all!
This was extremely educational. Thank you!
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Hey Chadi, I'm doing a presentation in a few months about a pamphlet that fencing master Alfred Hutton wrote during his time at the Bartitsu Club about Yukio Tani's Jiu-Jitsu, and how it compares to modern BJJ and medieval European wrestling. I'm 99% sure I've interpreted the techniques in the pamphlet correctly, but I'm trying to find video examples from the time period to confirm my interpretations and see if there's any nuances I'm missing. Could you provide the sources for the videos in your video, so that I can see if there's any more content I can draw from?
One of the first "complete" mixed martial arts system
Shinden fudo ryu!! Savate!! Way cool!! I’d love to learn more of this. Is there any books available?? Thanks for your show.👍
For Savate(sources in french) :
*La Boxe (La Savate) Pratique, Offensive et Defensive, Conseils Pour Le Combat Dans La Rue* - Julien Leclerc (For the more combative savate)
*L'art de la boxe française et de la canne : nouveau traité pratique et théorique* - Joseph Charlemont (For the "academic" savate) ==> also include a part on the cane
For the Jujitsu , i haven't the original japonese version but the french ones(close enough to the bartitsu's) :
*Comment se défendre* - Georges Dubois
*Les secrets du Jiu-Jitsu* - Ernest Regnier
*Manuel de Jiu-Jitsu : Coups usuels à l'usage des sociétés de gymnastique, de l'armée et du public en général* & *Je me défends toute seule* - Armand Cherpillod
*Jiu Jitsu Pratique* - Charles Péchard
*Les Sports de Défense* - Emile Maitrot
*L’art de se défendre dans la rue avec ou sans armes* - Emile André
Hope this helps !!!
The recent revival of bartitsu is very cool imo. If I had the time resources in my life I'd like to be part of the revival myself.
Same! Looks cool
There is a french counterpart called *Defense dans la Rue*: it combines Cane fighting, Savate, Boxing and Jujitsu like Bartitsu and the book is quite complete on the method
Loving this
We need more books on Bartitsu
As i said in another message, the closest thing we got is *Defense Dans la Rue* by Jean Joseph Renaud , a student of Wright & a formidable duelist (foil/épée/sabre & pistols) on his own.
Renaud's method sligthly differs by his cane guard position & usage of the knife and the revolver.
This is an awesome video.
Thank you Bryan
@@Chadi you're welcome
Hello Chadi! Thank you for your informative videos. I did not know that Kano sent Tani to England. Can you give me the source of this information? It would be important for a book I am writing. Thank you.
Love this
Thank you
The image @ 0:13 is actually a photo of an old Kyushin Ryu Master, Shihan Yazo Eguchi.
Thank you for the information
Another dope video, Chadi...
Thank you
Bro love the channel keep it up
Thank you Matthew.🙇🏻♂️
素晴らしい映像ですね。where did you find?
Bartitsu society
Very nice Chadi!
Thank you Kleydson
I now see part of Billy Robinson's style was Bartitsu inspired and even some of Sakuraba's actions were Bartitsu....
Достаточно было англичанам притянуть в страну новое единоборство, как сразу во франции рождается Сават
Very kewl video. Savate is next? 👍🏼
Yes it's on the list
Do you know where the documentary you are referring to can be found? Preferrably streaming.
The Bartitsu society, they sell it as a DVD
@@Chadi Thanks, but I don't even have a DVD player anymore. Or maybe I can dig up my old crashing laptop and convert it. 😀
@@henrikg1388 lol! Go on their site maybe they have something else
The British Bruce. "Limey" Lee. Enter the Tea Kettle. I could do this all day. I like this guy though. He's like the first British Mixed Martial Artist. Thanks for the video.
Thank you
You do a damn good job man.
Thank you
I wish i could find peeps in my area that would be interested in this as I have Bartitsu books
Where do you live?
Great work do you no where i can find the documentry on this?
Bartitsu society
Great video. we see another variant of mother art judo
Thank you
Chadi, do you believe there is much difference between Défense dans la Rue and Bartitsu?
Hello Cathy Anne! I believe there are subtle differences but the concept is somewhat similar, i could be wrong, will look more into it
@@Chadi thanks. To me the combination of Savate and Jujitsu in Defense Le Dans Rue means that the art is so close to Bartitsu that it is hard to differentiate the two arts. I am certainly not arguing that one art stole from the other. But that two groups came to same conclusion about self defense.
@@catherineannemccloskey-ros9500 100% I agree
@@Chadi I never thought being agreed with would be such an honor.
@@catherineannemccloskey-ros9500 the honour is mine
Truly the beginning of MMA.
Sherlock Holmes esto si que sería más interesante de ver que no dando bofetadas tipo wing Chung. Muy Interesante!!!!!! Gracias
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Chadi do video of mukna ancient wrestling style and malakhro ancient wrestling style plz ñd thanks
Sure
@@Chadi sure meaning no or sure meaning I don't give a f*** like just don't even bother responding if u not interested in the knowledge and seeing how judo compares to those traditional arts
Very interesting, did the most recent sherlock holmes movies, starring Robert Downey Jr, featured this martial art?
No. They used wing chun.
Asombroso no conocía ese arte marcial,para la defensa callejera lo mejor es la patada baja mas corta mas rápida.
Vai ter Judô vs bartitisu?
Sure
Creo que también tiene un poco de savate
I asked my father [who trained in Karate] if he would be afraid to fight a black belt, he looked at me and said " I'd be more afraid of fighting a man who has a yellow belt in 6 martial arts than an average black belt." , after seven martial arts [I took them till yellow or blue] I agree. Now that I'm older, I agree more and more and look to arts like Silat and Jujitsu to work on in my looming old age as as I'm 55 now and am getting slower but more tactical in my approach ...
日本の柔道、柔術の動画を多数出していただいて嬉しく思います。
日本では「ばちつ」ではなく「バリツ」、「バーティッツ」と呼ばれることが多いですね。
I am glad to see that you have put out a number of videos on Japanese Judo and Jiu-Jitsu.
In Japan, it is often called "baritsu" or "bertitsu" instead of "bachitsu".
Thank you so much for watching and sharing this information 🙇🏻♂️
This is awesome, should be a more common self defense.
lol iwas just looking into bartitsu again and then this vid pops up!
Lovely coincidence
Hey Chadi! Off topic, but you should totally look into Nick Yonezuka's TH-cam page. He's been demonstrating some amazing No-Gi Judo and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it!
I'll look into it
Chadi Remember that's what I was talking about when I said mixed boxing
Yes!
I think Bartitsu has a cross connection to Jkd. I could be totally wrong *(or Bruce was pretty familiar with the art himself)!!!!* Bruce Lee drew heavily from western (& eastern sources) sources between boxing and fencing when he created Jkd. And the moment the Tao of Jkd was release. He strip away the trapping components of Wing Chun (focus on the 4 corner parry from Wing Chun structure), and focus heavily on boxing & fencing instead. Either it's a coincidence or a fluke?
You have a point
They both had a similar martial background:old school Boxing,Savate,Judo and Fencing.
Bruce was even more eclectic,with Muay Thai,Karate,Arnis and so on,but they definetly share many core elements,to the point that they could flow well together.
Another one that should be at least presented to any club
🙇🏻♂️ thank you bro
Французский бокс?
Don't think the Sherlock Holmes connection is strictly accurate, though the founder Edward Barton Wright was an interesting character. Great video as always Chadi, thanks
I believe Arthur Conan Doyle, said Holmes trained it cause it was popular
@@Chadi Your right Chadi, my apologies, interesting system though with the boxing and wrestling influences and of course the jujitsu influence from Japan.
Good stuff
If it wasn't for the anime Kengan ashura. I probably would have never heard of this fighting style. Also, for some reason they change to origins of Bartitsu.
That one dislike is from Kure Raian.
And Mokichi Robinson is felling proud
It's TH-cam, it's possible
@@Chadi have you watched Kengan Ashura?
Probably because you knew Raian
@@cubingcubez6678 yes and Baki
@@Chadi noice
@@Chadi you should try
Kenichi history's strongest disciple
Teppuu
Holyland
Tough
Sherlock Holmes used it!))
Indeed
Вспомнил схватку Шерлока Холмса и Мортимера !
Five stars !! 🖐👺
Thank you 🙇🏻♂️
Bartitsu is great no nonsense martial art. Check out TH-cam channel Bartitsu Lab Moore, really great videos on there.
I'll check it out
This is just savate with different name ?
No
@@Eternalnight198 it jus looks like savate same thing same moves everything
@@raymundomartinez924 no
@@raymundomartinez924 unlike Savate, it incorporates Wrestling Judo and Jujitsu.
The real original mixed martial art.
Indeed
Call me stupid, but I think of "Bo' Rai Cho" from Mortal Kombat X when I c or hear of "Bartitsu!"
I always thought that the bartitsu was created by Bart Simpson...
Hahaha Ridiculous
🤔🤔🤔😒😒
Cool
🙇🏻♂️
Not to be confused with the more common pasttime of bartipsy.
📖👍☺👂 Good.
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"Bartitsu" or "Baritsu" ?
Please see above. Baritsu was a mispelling
it doesn't seem like a unified system at all, it looks like he just named it as a publicity gimmick utilising the popularity of jujitsu.
Possible! Given the time he lived in
Bartitsu was old MMA. Communist congratulations from North Korea.
A mixed of Asian martial arts and sawatte
Exactly
Min 1.30 es savate...
Yes a part of it
Ok, for a history enthusiast this works well, but as an introductory video of bartitsu this just goes way too much into trivialities
Ça ressemble beaucoup à la boxe française !!
C'est inspiré de la boxe française
The only person with less credential that started their own marshal art was Jigoro Kano! Three years in japan is more than enough time to master all jujitsu and judo moves. but how can you become Swiss wrestling in that time. As a Black belt in Bartitsu I know its as useless as Maui Thai. Just save yourself some time and learn how to throw a green Chi ball. ( Hint green Chi seems to be the most powerful)
I wonder how long it will take before this gets reported
Wow your weren't kidding you never stop
@farorin mostly crack but Meth is cool too.
#matrag
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Bien avant l' U F C , Kajukenbo , Jeet Kune Do
More like crap-itsu