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Greg: guy who drinks. Also Greg: thanks for coming to my TED talk regarding ancient Mediterranean mythology and religious beliefs. Thank you, Greg, for containing multitudes and sharing them with us.
If you want more check out Overly Sarcastic Productions videos on Dionysius, Hermes/Pan (yes, that’s a thing) and also their video on Persephone. Needless to say the modern idea of the green pantheon is HIGHLY flattened by history.
its a shame he didn't go far enough in the game to see the other drinks that are offered to Zagreus.... because kiss of Styx is definitely the drink version of his titans blood.
Hey Greg! Just so you know, the game Bastion by Supergiant, which you mentioned, is a game FULL of cocktails The main “skill” mechanic of the game involves slotting different cocktails with buffs onto your character They all have fun names, a line or two of background lore, and each of them has a unique bottle/colour If you’re ever looking for ideas, bastion is a quick game with LOTS of drinks Cheers
Pretty sure the codex was also just given to zag by Achilles in the cannon, I feel like I remember that from the intro. plus the Achilles entry is written in first person and Patroclus' entry has achilles written aaaaaall over it
@@ThePeaceluffer Yep. It's already got all the info in it, but being ~magical~ it only reveals the info to Zagreus when he earns it. It's all Achilles.
And Yet the Aztec Gods has some insane Gods as well, but The Crawling Chaos being related to Dionysus. I get it because madness but Dionysus has more of return to nature type of madness and not rip your eyes out madness. We could have Hermes be in that same boat too. Given if we take the idea of the crawling chaos being the old gods version massager of the gods. Insanity is truly unique.
@@gangrenousgandalf2102 fear of the unknown specifically, which is what his gods represent: unknowable horrors that appear as horrors to us humans because most can't fully comprehend them. It's a forbidden knowledge theme that goes back before Egypt, Babylon or even Sumer. The Mysteries, Hermeticism and Western Esotericism in general is a fun, albeit DEEP rabbit hole to go down.
"...Crushed on a mouse in welder's goggles." Looks over at the Gadget pins and other items acquired on trips to Disney World... Ouch I did not know this was a call out post. Take my like.
Mildly surprised you didn't do some sort of pomagranate-y drink, the ones you did make seem awesome tho, had forgotten the liquidy nature of titans blood tbh
I had the same thought, given pomegranates being heavily related to Hades. I also thought a little cherry might be really good given he mentioned it was kinda BBQ-y.
Greg: "I'm pretty sure Zagreus is just trying to get out of the place because he's bored of it..." Hades: "Stupid boy..." Me: "... Nice work, editor. Two birds with one Hades-sized stone."
Greg! My city just opened its first bar in over 20 years and I have the absolutely rad chance to be lead bartender and help create the menu/train the staff. Your videos are one of my main sources of inspiration and I'm so grateful for all of the passion you put into making this show.
On titans and ichor, it depends on the titan. Ichor is the result of ingesting ambrosia/nectar, indeed it may in fact be the same exact thing. Not all titans ingest such divine nourishment, so there are titans that bleed blood and some that bleed ichor. I'm impressed you actually said Nyarlathotep right. I only found out about it recently.
@@gluttonousgoddess Just google the pronunciation or look it up in any dictionary; the only part in question is whether to pronounce it -or or -er. (You could also play Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars.)
Love it! May try these drinks eventually if I can get my hands on the stuff to make them. Just one correction, at 8:04 you say "Zagreus describes nectar …" but the in-game codex is actually written from the perspective of Achilles, which explains why he mentions he's only had a few chances to try it, as Zagreus is a god who could probably easily get his hands on it to drink it, Achilles is 'just' a shade who wouldn't typically be allowed it. EDIT: spelling mistakes
Every time i watch one of these pop culture recreation videos im really impressed by how well Greg is able to capture the essence of what makes these drinks good rather than trying to recreate every single ingredient. It really helps make the techniques and recipes feel approachable.
Also, just an FYI, Tonka beans contain a fair amount of coumarin (an anticoagulant a similar to another compound, warfarin, is used to treat humans who have potential deep vein thrombosis/pulmonary embolism issues and is NOT helpful for rats where it has been used used as a rodenticide) which can cause internal bleeding. I'm sure that is not the reason that it is illegal but just a fun fact...
@@David-tx1ig That is basically the stated reason, but quite a few people have pointed out that to suffer any serious effects you'd have to eat the beans by the shovelful, and they're a _spice_ that's used rather sparingly.
As these videos keep going longer and longer I keep saying to myself "I don't have time for a 30 minute video." Then when I finally get around to watching it I'm like "What, it's over already?" Keep up the fantastic work sir, all three of these look amazing.
I picked up Hades on a whim when it came to Steam and now over 300 hours later it has become not only my favorite RougeLite but one of my favorite games of all time. Thanks for the cool video!
The Romans used lead acetate or "sugar of lead" which is a white crystalline powder that tastes lightly sweet. They did not use lead shavings, sorry Greg.
Your beautifully informed and manic deep dive into Dionysus was more hilarious! He was the first God I filled out Zag's relationship with and (SPOILERS)... I just got the scene where those two prank Orpheus with the myth of how Zagyreus is supposedly the proto-version of Dionysus!
I hit that part fairly recently, and listening to Orpheus sing that song while Hades grouses in the background has been quite amusing (mine was Ares, I still have a lock on Dionysus that I haven't managed to clear...)
whenever I think hades, my mind just goes to the hadestown musical ngl. if you haven't listened to it, it is amazing! probably the best musical hard stop
1:09 "My generation grew up crushing on a cartoon mouse with welding goggles." I mean. You're not wrong. Of all the cartoon crushes I had as a kid, Gadget was one of them.
To explain the difference between Rogue-like and Rogue-lite, it has nothing to do with turn based vs real time. A Rogue-lite game has progressive upgrades the carry between runs eg the mirror of darkness in Hades. Rogue-like games have you start from scratch each time you start a run, for example The Binding of Isaac falls under this category.
@@lundylow The term comes from the 1980 video game Rogue, which pioneered many of the core mechanics of the genre. Rogue had no progressive upgrades, hence the “like/lite” differentiation.
I know 6 months old post but more for people who are responding later. Greg is referring to the original definition of roguelike where it does require it to be turn based. (Rogue, nethack, ADoM, DCSS, ToMe, etc..). Everything in the game updates at the same time. If you move, every enemy moves/attacks/etc... Things were broken down by time/turn. So if you move and that action takes 5 turns and an enemy can attack every 1 turn then you would get hit 5 times every time you moved. The idea is you should be able to sit back and take as much time as you need to figure out how to get out of the situation you're in. Most ARE permadeath but it's not a requirement (Elona for example does not have permadeath). Of course most people don't know this anymore and that's fine words change. The issue I have is if you look up roguelikes you're going to get only games of the modern definition. There's no way to lookup games that follow the old definition and there are no other words we have for it. So unless you know the game exist you won't find it. This is a huge issue because it's a genre that is still very much played and new games are coming out every year or being updated that no one will hear about it because there's no way to look up games in the genre.
The Binding of Isaac doesn't really count as a roguelike. You unlock permanent upgrades. Not just new items that appear, but starting items for the characters.
Man, I love your channel for how clean, well-produced and entertaining it is. The host is charismatic, the content is widely varied, and it's clear that you put a lot of effort into your production. Which is why, after a few months of watching you, it's starting to really drain on me how you guys practically never change your background music. You can be using music to set the mood of your drinks so much, and it seems like instead of putting any effort into your sound production you just copy-paste Savoy Special and drag it across a half-hour or whatever time. I get that it's a staple piece of yours but personally I think that at least the slightest bit of variety would do your show well. Again, this is only coming from a place of a fan who loves your content, and I hope you don't think I'm coming off as antagonistic.
How I understand the main difference between Rogue Like vs Rogue Lite: Rogue Like = When you die/lose/game over, you start over COMPLETELY. AKA, Permadeath. You don't keep any items or money or XP etc. Think FTL or Binding of Isaac. Rogue Lite = You generally keep some things when you fail. In Hades, you keep your darkness, gems, diamonds, ambrosia etc, while losing gold and boons.
Rogue-likes are games like the original 1980 Rogue game. the original dungeon crawler style game. Such as Hack and Moria from the same era, and more recently, titles like Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup. Rogue-Lites are pretty much anything else that spawned off the permadeath, normally randomised layout mechanic, and then later expanded into semi-permadeath like Hades shows, or Sunless Sea/Skies, to even management like games such as Cultist Simulator. It's like how early FPS games were called Doom-Clones until it became a semi obsolete term now somewhat replaced recently by the term "boomer shooter", which is looser than the original, but still helps describe the general feel that's expected. Most of the Like vs Lite argument is really over how similar the title is to the the 1980 Rogue title it should be for the "Like" suffix to apply. And it doesn't help that they're barely distinguishable between each other when spoken in my accent.
FTL and BoI are rogueLITEs too, not roguelikes. The distinction is much easier to underatand if you think of one distinction- roguelites have meta progression. It might be with metacurrency like in Hades, it might be with progress unlocks like BoI. Roguelikes are ALWAYS the same. You could start a fresh copy of a game or one with 1000hrs game time and the game balance and chances will be exactly the same, only thing that affects gameplay is likes is skill and experience.
Not to be that guy, but in Isaac you unlock new floors, bosses, characters, items and character starting items. So Isaac is like a Rogue-Like-Lite awkward middle point
I'd say FTL and Binding of Isaac kinda skirt the line though, as you unlock more items and levels/content permanently even after losing a run. You don't start the run with better items, sure, but in the case of isaac you have greater potential for stronger runs and unlock stronger characters the more you play, and even permanently get a D6 for Isaac at a point. For FTL you get different starting ships and potential events, which is harder to say is a straight upgrade, but still muddies it a bit from being a pure rogue like.
Being a HUGE Supergiant fan, its nice to see people doing things like this. The attention they and their older games are getting is really great. Fun watch, the attention to visual detail is incredible, definitely check out Bastion for some more drink ideas.
Well, nothing will jolt you awake from a micro-nap quite like hearing someone say, "Thank you for falling asleep watching me..." But seriously, I just shut my eyes for a second during the calls to action and woke up to that. Kind of creepy, Greg.
RogueLIKES are about the individual runs and generally don't have an overarching progression, RogueLITES are focused on overall progression rather than the individual runs. The definition of either is not dependent on whether or not it is turn-based. Hope that clears up any confusion!
I'm glad you've used tonka in a rum drink now because after I picked some up I realized I REALLY like a drink with tonka and honey and a nice dark rum, I liked it better than scotch and tonka
GREG! I have a request! I have a friend with chrohn's disease, but he is finally getting surgery and I promised to make him his first ever proper drink once he recovers from his surgery, do you have any suggestions for a fancy/cool but low percentage cocktail I could make?
Bumbu Rum has a creme version that is basically like rumchata mixed with irish cream liquor. Just that over ice is pretty great. It's got some great vanilla flavors and a bit of muted spice notes hiding amongst the cream. The disturbing thing is that the alcohol presence doesn't really change much if you add in almost an equal part of a proofier rum. Anyway, Bumbu Creme with a coffee liquor, some chocolate bitters, and a twist of orange would be great. Not exactly low-proof, but you don't need to drink a whole lot of it to experience the flavors. I think that's actually more important than finding drinks that border on mocktails. An alternative would be to get a nut-milk bag and make a milk clarified punch of some description. There's plenty of recipes on youtube for making various milk clarified punches, along with tips and tricks for tuning the milk clarification process.
When I saw the bottle sneak peak on instagram, I screamed HAAAADES and sent it to my husband and he was confused and didn't know what I was so excited for. Sigh. I am also loving these longer format videos with all the history and such things.
I found that interesting actually. Cause about 5:30 into the video, he talks about honey being available to ancient people and sugar being non-existent. So simple syrup would be a rare or even impossible ingredient. Or... Something only available to the gods. 😮
Having seen your past videos I was Shocked that you didn't open with one of the many amazing songs on the Hades OST! And then you revealed you haven't beaten Meg yet. Keep playing, you won't regret it!
Mythology is convoluted and counter-intuitive throughout each one, coming from another person that studies mythology, i dont know if you do but you know your stuff and it brings me joy
The research going into this episode was incredible. Some behind-the-scenes praise where it's due, my dude. Also, holy crap referencing Nyarlathothep?? deep lore right there
man when you had "titan's blood" as one of them I for a second thought "there's no way he's going to try to make a cocktail with actual blood in it right?" cause like, you can go to a butcher and get coagulated blood. this is a thing you could have done. and it would have been a challenge to make it palatable to say the least.
So, before going to bed, I had the choice to either read a doctrinal article about administrative law or to watch this video. I'm gonna be a terrible teacher, but a pretty great host.
Pretty sure as long as you review the doctoral thesis tomorrow and reward yourself with a lovely drink the students not going to know or care the difference. As long as they pass XD
I was looking at the pretty bows on those bottles, wondering who tied them, or if they were pre-tied when you bought them. And then you surprised me by talking about all the time and effort you put into making them. I'm impressed and proud of you! No, for real, I'm not kidding. I can't tie a nice bow to save my life, so I can only imagine how much time and frustration it would have taken me to make those. Just wanted to say, your work on the little details does not go unnoticed or unappreciated. Thank you.
Fun fact, there is mead liquor that they make in several different countries, the ones i have had are from Lithuania, and it was 50% and had all kinds of wonderful spices, berries and stuff added to it. I feel like that is a nectar like drink as is.
I remember seeing a tumblr post about bees that ended up making green and purple honey because they were collecting sugar from a nearby Skittles factory
Using actual nectar (possibly from a pomegranate, passion fruit, or apple for origin sake, although apricot, lemon, strawberry, or other sources would likely work wonders as well?) to add a soft sweet fruity glow to the nectar may be an idea
I highly respect the amount of effort greg puts into changing subjcets, I had no clue where the diablo comparison thing was going and then boom, in-game drinks.
It's ridiculous. The amount of tonka bean a person would have to eat to reach toxic levels is roughly the same as for many other spices, like nutmeg, and vastly exceeds the amount one would actually have in a dish. It's not just tonka bean, either. There are other culinary delights that have to be swapped out for less-delightful alternatives because, like tonka beans, they also contain coumarin.
@@HayTatsuko I'm a chef and American food makes me sad when I hear about what's banned. I get that it contains coumarin but whoever makes the decisions needs some assistance. Fake flavours, sugar replacements and e-colours in kid's cereal that have been proven to cause accelerated diabetes: 😀 A literal bean that you'd need to eat kilos of: 😡
The liver doesn't clear coumarin, so there's sort of a lifetime limit before the liver gives out. Problem is we don't do real math on these in the US, and it likely errs greatly to the cautious side. Nevermind cinnamon, which has a tiny tiny amount of coumarin, but is a lifetime staple for many Americans, included in so many of our favorite foods. So many. It would be interesting to know the real numbers and the real thresholds and the lifetime risk across the various sources like Tonka beans.
@@monkeybench Our list of banned food is more about lobbying groups than safety for human consumption. I'm not sure which industry was competing with spice beans, but I guess they shelled out. Edit: he said it in the video. DOW Chemical. Not surprised, they're a big one.
@@ScotHarkins Up tp 0,1 Micrograms cumarin/Kilogram bodyweight is considered harmless. Daily intake! As one Tonka-bean has about 1,5g and roughly contains 3% Cumarin, you get about 50mg, if you have one bean per day. So even for most females, that is considered harmless. And who eats a whole tonka-bean daily in some drink or dessert? 500mg/kg bodyweight is immediately dangerous. Which means, a healthy 80kg-man hits instant problems, if he consumes about... 800 beans? Sort of silly...
I want to thank you for suggesting Plantation rum in your past videos. Its absolutely the best and reasonably priced as well. Keep these great videos coming.
What the actual fuck, I was playing Hades yesterday and thought, damn I hope HowtoDrink makes a cocktail based of nectar Thank you for fulfilling this dream
I like all the extra info you gave on Greek mythology. Usually people just talk about what they're told in high school and stuff, but it's much more complex
12:41 “red honey” triggered a core memory for me. You should play Sunless Sea. Cocktails based on it would be awesome, but even if we don’t get that video, you should play it.
Hey Greg, red wine doesn't go with fish because it is generally higher in tannins and fish is high in oil. Consequently these two components react with each other and will create a metallic taste. That being said if the red wine doesn't seem to be high in tannins (the level of drying out and gritty mouthfeel in red wine is a good indicator, if it's very high tannin you can even feel it on your teeth!) and it's a less oily fish you should be fine :)
Its weird, when you really look at it, how Gadget is simultaneously more humanlike and more mouselike than a certain other disney mouse and she is much more attractive to us. Nothing wrong with it, remembering back to my childhood...Gadget, April O'Neil, Jessica Rabbit, need i continue the list? Lol
@@davidmathieson8661 lol not at all, i get it being an 80s kid, all those toons were probably more sexualized than they needed to be, but that's part of why they stuck with us.
I just found this channel yesterday and Ive gotta say that the production, content, and Greg are topnotch. So much research and preperation goes into every video and it makes watching a real treat. Great job, Greg and all those behind the cameras making this thing work.
Finally got the tonka beans I ordered. I can conclusively say that using them to make the Ambrosia cocktail is incomparable to using the spices Greg mentioned to try and approximate the flavor. 10/10 would recommend getting the beans.
Diablo 1 was initially heavily inspired by Rogue and a lot of the genre's classics, like Nethack and Angband. It was initially turn based. Took 'em a few months to switch over to a real time engine. You can still see the Rogue influences though - random item modifiers, the need to identify items, random level generation, hardcore mode, and just how flexible build-wise the classes were in the original game. It was basically a roguelite before that was a common term.
Honestly, if you did a series of videos where all you did was leisurely drink a cocktail and quietly talk about how it tastes, I bet a lot of people would happily fall asleep to them.
One of the many reasons I absolutely enjoy watching your videos is the massive amount of very well researched facts about the history of either the drinks themselves or where the drinks came from. Factual or fictional it's always great to learn something new and history! Awesome videos man 💪
i really really appreciate you trying to add nuance to the videogame discussion even if it's not the focus of the show. i think you're wrong but i honestly think that's irrelevant, just introducing the concepts is more important that fully explaining them, i think i think that's really important not only in regards to videogames, but also to whatever else you talk about, gives me some appreciation for whatever little comment you might make about history or what else
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Please do the cocktails that appear in the Dr Stone manga!
Good luck on completing it! You've got 10 more playthroughs to go for the true ending!
All these drinks sound delicious. Anyway please do a cocktail using ROMANA SAMBVCA liquore classica.
Tell me I didn’t miss the episode where you used that Ancho Reyes......
greg:
> doesn't understand why people are crushing on zagreus
> calls a bottle sexy
He says this over the clip of Zag emerging from the Styx. The one clip that made a million voices cry out “oh no, he’s hot!”
Duh, Zagreus ain’t a bottle.
Yet.
timestamp? for both
Greg is bottle-sexual.
@@biancabrooks280 *pint-sexual*
Greg: guy who drinks.
Also Greg: thanks for coming to my TED talk regarding ancient Mediterranean mythology and religious beliefs.
Thank you, Greg, for containing multitudes and sharing them with us.
If you want more check out Overly Sarcastic Productions videos on Dionysius, Hermes/Pan (yes, that’s a thing) and also their video on Persephone.
Needless to say the modern idea of the green pantheon is HIGHLY flattened by history.
Ted talk about how dionysius is actually nyarlathotep
No no, he has "layers"
Honestly it's half the fun
He’s a gem. Multifaceted. 💎
In the name of Hades, I accept these drinks!
Would have been a good line!
Plot Twist: Dionysus is actually Greg in disguise.
@@ArchArturo I could see it
@@ArchArturo headcannon accepted
In the name of Hades, we accept Gadget!
... also Dusa is best girl.
its a shame he didn't go far enough in the game to see the other drinks that are offered to Zagreus.... because kiss of Styx is definitely the drink version of his titans blood.
HydraLite also qualifies as a drink. And of course, the versions of both offered by Patroclus.
I wish he knew about Eurydice’s treats, I think the refreshing nectar could make a fun non-alcoholic drink
Wait, when do you get Kiss of Styx? I don't remember it. I'm literally playing Hades as we speak lol.
@@TheNo1pencil you get it when you meet Achillies lover
How do we get this thread pinned or noticed so he makes a Part 2?
Hey Greg!
Just so you know, the game Bastion by Supergiant, which you mentioned, is a game FULL of cocktails
The main “skill” mechanic of the game involves slotting different cocktails with buffs onto your character
They all have fun names, a line or two of background lore, and each of them has a unique bottle/colour
If you’re ever looking for ideas, bastion is a quick game with LOTS of drinks
Cheers
Id love a bastion ep
Well now I have to check out Bastion
That's a really good point!....Also, Bastion is just an awesome game, with many of the same amazing voice actors. Totally worth playing!
Greg talking about bevs like the narrator while Darren Korb's music plays in the background would be perfect
Absolutely, it is a treasure trove!
"I think, in some mythologies consuming gods' blood is a thing?"
Christianity would like a word with you!
Well Christianity is just plagiarized mythology.
@@BushBumperBaker not exactly but whatever
@@BushBumperBaker Every mythology is just plagiarized other mythology.
@@i.cs.z Including Christianity of course
@@i.cs.z I like to think of it as a campfire story that suddenly became ridiculously popular and telephoned.
Achilles is the voice of the Codex. As a Hades addict, this is important to me
Yep, the characterisation is super different. Zag’d be much more dismissive of everything.
Pretty sure the codex was also just given to zag by Achilles in the cannon, I feel like I remember that from the intro. plus the Achilles entry is written in first person and Patroclus' entry has achilles written aaaaaall over it
@@ThePeaceluffer Yep. It's already got all the info in it, but being ~magical~ it only reveals the info to Zagreus when he earns it. It's all Achilles.
@@Virginiafox21 Of course, Achilles would do that. Hades may have been Zag's father, but he wasn't his daddy!
I'm glad someone said it because I didn't want do be that "um actually" person
The editor choosing a smokey "come hither" look for Gadget was priceless.
I really wish Greg isint the editor but I feel like he is.
I'm pretty sure greg edits his own videos. He's said something about it before
@@isaacshefton5835 Greg is 100% the editor
@@Graemyr shocking
I was TODAY old, before I realized the clear through line between the Mysteries of Dionysus and Lovecraftian Old Ones...
And Yet the Aztec Gods has some insane Gods as well, but The Crawling Chaos being related to Dionysus. I get it because madness but Dionysus has more of return to nature type of madness and not rip your eyes out madness. We could have Hermes be in that same boat too. Given if we take the idea of the crawling chaos being the old gods version massager of the gods. Insanity is truly unique.
@@thegreenmessor3809 Insanity is the divine awesomeness. This is known.
No, Lovecraft's works were inspired by his fear of almost everything and his tremendous racism.
@@gangrenousgandalf2102 THANK you
@@gangrenousgandalf2102 fear of the unknown specifically, which is what his gods represent: unknowable horrors that appear as horrors to us humans because most can't fully comprehend them.
It's a forbidden knowledge theme that goes back before Egypt, Babylon or even Sumer. The Mysteries, Hermeticism and Western Esotericism in general is a fun, albeit DEEP rabbit hole to go down.
"...Crushed on a mouse in welder's goggles." Looks over at the Gadget pins and other items acquired on trips to Disney World... Ouch I did not know this was a call out post. Take my like.
EVERYONE's furry for Gadget.
"I'm ashamed how long I took to fix the bow" I mean, gonna respect your dedication to presentation. Love it
Mildly surprised you didn't do some sort of pomagranate-y drink, the ones you did make seem awesome tho, had forgotten the liquidy nature of titans blood tbh
I had the same thought, given pomegranates being heavily related to Hades. I also thought a little cherry might be really good given he mentioned it was kinda BBQ-y.
True, but look, if Greg is going to go off about the Persephone myth (and he totally would) that deserves it's own episode.
Greg: "I'm pretty sure Zagreus is just trying to get out of the place because he's bored of it..."
Hades: "Stupid boy..."
Me: "... Nice work, editor. Two birds with one Hades-sized stone."
*two birds with one Bouldy
Greg! My city just opened its first bar in over 20 years and I have the absolutely rad chance to be lead bartender and help create the menu/train the staff. Your videos are one of my main sources of inspiration and I'm so grateful for all of the passion you put into making this show.
Good luck! I hope you’re still doing well!
On titans and ichor, it depends on the titan. Ichor is the result of ingesting ambrosia/nectar, indeed it may in fact be the same exact thing. Not all titans ingest such divine nourishment, so there are titans that bleed blood and some that bleed ichor.
I'm impressed you actually said Nyarlathotep right. I only found out about it recently.
Talos was full of Ichor too, and dude was straight up an automaton.
So, why didn't you note that it's pronounced "eye-kor"?
@@delcox8165 NGL personally dunno if it's ih-kor or iy-kor
@@gluttonousgoddess Just google the pronunciation or look it up in any dictionary; the only part in question is whether to pronounce it -or or -er. (You could also play Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars.)
@@delcox8165 the problem is, we don't know if that's the original pronunciation or a newer transcription.
Love it! May try these drinks eventually if I can get my hands on the stuff to make them. Just one correction, at 8:04 you say "Zagreus describes nectar …" but the in-game codex is actually written from the perspective of Achilles, which explains why he mentions he's only had a few chances to try it, as Zagreus is a god who could probably easily get his hands on it to drink it, Achilles is 'just' a shade who wouldn't typically be allowed it.
EDIT: spelling mistakes
"Crushing on a cartoon mouse in welding goggles"
I clapped. Three times. Involuntarily.
I am just glad I'm not alone
🔘I’m In This Video and I Don’t Like It
At least it wasn't 3 snaps in Z formation!
@@Gassy555 definitely not, she was attractive af, i mean you take away the mouse features and put the rest of that on a woman, yeowza!
Gadget!
Every time i watch one of these pop culture recreation videos im really impressed by how well Greg is able to capture the essence of what makes these drinks good rather than trying to recreate every single ingredient. It really helps make the techniques and recipes feel approachable.
"Why is X illegal?" "Because a competing company straight up had the power to to criminalize its competitors."
America in a nutshell
Yeah sums up capitalism
Another reason I want to leave burger country
GobbyGuardian Sometimes I wanna move upward to maple syrup country
Also, just an FYI, Tonka beans contain a fair amount of coumarin (an anticoagulant a similar to another compound, warfarin, is used to treat humans who have potential deep vein thrombosis/pulmonary embolism issues and is NOT helpful for rats where it has been used used as a rodenticide) which can cause internal bleeding. I'm sure that is not the reason that it is illegal but just a fun fact...
@@David-tx1ig That is basically the stated reason, but quite a few people have pointed out that to suffer any serious effects you'd have to eat the beans by the shovelful, and they're a _spice_ that's used rather sparingly.
Ahh Dionysius, or as my college professor called him, "The God of Hooch and Smooch."
Dionysius is like If Dan Avidan was a god
@@chef9830 miiiiiiight wanna chose a better person
@@catharticgemini he didn't really do anything besides sleep with a fan and ghost her. Seems pretty in character for dionysus
@@googleaccount2288 which 1, not everyone is a saint, and 2 EXACTLY!
To be fair, if I was famous, I'd also bang my fans and ghost them
As an avid reader of Lovecraft, I cannot believe I never made that connection between Dionysus and Nyarlathotep. HOW DID I MISS THAT SHIT
Because Dionysus wasn't a torturing fethwit?
As these videos keep going longer and longer I keep saying to myself "I don't have time for a 30 minute video." Then when I finally get around to watching it I'm like "What, it's over already?" Keep up the fantastic work sir, all three of these look amazing.
If you've never played Bastion, you really should. That game has a ton of cool thematic spirits that I'd love to see your take on.
I picked up Hades on a whim when it came to Steam and now over 300 hours later it has become not only my favorite RougeLite but one of my favorite games of all time. Thanks for the cool video!
18:25 - not even Appleton 12y Rare Casks is safe from a Greg spill 🙈
"I can't describe it", "is indescribable", "I'm not able to describe it"... Greg, it was a Hades episode, not Lovecraft's :p
Lovecraft episode when?
@@cinderheart2720 soon, hopefully. Anyway it should be something over average to honour it (like Harry Potter potions episode level)
You know, everything's fine, until next episode when he starts whispering "They're calling to me" inbetween sentences.
The Romans used lead acetate or "sugar of lead" which is a white crystalline powder that tastes lightly sweet. They did not use lead shavings, sorry Greg.
Lead sugar, aka lead(II) acetate, is in fact a lead compound and is toxic.
@@xdarkeagle17x I think he meant they didn't just grate pure lead into stuff, even if it was still toxic and made of lead. There's a difference.
"I can't believe they used to put poison sprinkles in their liver-scarification juice!"
Your beautifully informed and manic deep dive into Dionysus was more hilarious! He was the first God I filled out Zag's relationship with and (SPOILERS)...
I just got the scene where those two prank Orpheus with the myth of how Zagyreus is supposedly the proto-version of Dionysus!
I hit that part fairly recently, and listening to Orpheus sing that song while Hades grouses in the background has been quite amusing (mine was Ares, I still have a lock on Dionysus that I haven't managed to clear...)
"An offering, for me? Indeed! How gracious that you keep me in your thoughts. Know that I likewise keep you in mine." -Ares
whenever I think hades, my mind just goes to the hadestown musical ngl. if you haven't listened to it, it is amazing! probably the best musical hard stop
This Hellenic myth tangent is proof that Greg is both a scholar and a gentleman!
Willing to bet he usually doesn't fall when he tries to stand
@@magicrainbowkitties1023 did he lose a bet to a guy in a chiffon skirt?
@@madiwright9888 Idk but he makes those high heels WORK
As someone who got into Hades late, and is completely obsessed and addicted now, I’m so glad this HTD episode exists.
I love the dedication to visual accuracy
1:09
"My generation grew up crushing on a cartoon mouse with welding goggles."
I mean. You're not wrong. Of all the cartoon crushes I had as a kid, Gadget was one of them.
Jessica Rabbit...😎
Yup. Right there with you...
I mean same lol...Jessica Rabbit, Gadget, April O'Neil, the list is long and mildly embarrassing
My mom and I both had a crush on the OG Optimus Prime
@@IvyLupusXKariCatta The Original Truck-kun
To explain the difference between Rogue-like and Rogue-lite, it has nothing to do with turn based vs real time. A Rogue-lite game has progressive upgrades the carry between runs eg the mirror of darkness in Hades. Rogue-like games have you start from scratch each time you start a run, for example The Binding of Isaac falls under this category.
I've always been confused by the terminology. Is there a "Rogue" gameplay style, and like and lite are variations of it?
I'd honestly never heard of either term until Hades started blowing up.
@@lundylow The term comes from the 1980 video game Rogue, which pioneered many of the core mechanics of the genre. Rogue had no progressive upgrades, hence the “like/lite” differentiation.
I know 6 months old post but more for people who are responding later.
Greg is referring to the original definition of roguelike where it does require it to be turn based. (Rogue, nethack, ADoM, DCSS, ToMe, etc..). Everything in the game updates at the same time. If you move, every enemy moves/attacks/etc... Things were broken down by time/turn. So if you move and that action takes 5 turns and an enemy can attack every 1 turn then you would get hit 5 times every time you moved. The idea is you should be able to sit back and take as much time as you need to figure out how to get out of the situation you're in.
Most ARE permadeath but it's not a requirement (Elona for example does not have permadeath).
Of course most people don't know this anymore and that's fine words change. The issue I have is if you look up roguelikes you're going to get only games of the modern definition. There's no way to lookup games that follow the old definition and there are no other words we have for it. So unless you know the game exist you won't find it.
This is a huge issue because it's a genre that is still very much played and new games are coming out every year or being updated that no one will hear about it because there's no way to look up games in the genre.
The Binding of Isaac doesn't really count as a roguelike. You unlock permanent upgrades. Not just new items that appear, but starting items for the characters.
I just woke up and Greg was whispering at me...must've been a good episode
I would totally listen to a collection of books narrated by you, what an amazing voice!
Man, I love your channel for how clean, well-produced and entertaining it is. The host is charismatic, the content is widely varied, and it's clear that you put a lot of effort into your production.
Which is why, after a few months of watching you, it's starting to really drain on me how you guys practically never change your background music. You can be using music to set the mood of your drinks so much, and it seems like instead of putting any effort into your sound production you just copy-paste Savoy Special and drag it across a half-hour or whatever time.
I get that it's a staple piece of yours but personally I think that at least the slightest bit of variety would do your show well. Again, this is only coming from a place of a fan who loves your content, and I hope you don't think I'm coming off as antagonistic.
Username checks out.
There's a different track in this exact video?
@@hammeroftyr lmao
How I understand the main difference between Rogue Like vs Rogue Lite:
Rogue Like = When you die/lose/game over, you start over COMPLETELY. AKA, Permadeath. You don't keep any items or money or XP etc. Think FTL or Binding of Isaac.
Rogue Lite = You generally keep some things when you fail. In Hades, you keep your darkness, gems, diamonds, ambrosia etc, while losing gold and boons.
Rogue-likes are games like the original 1980 Rogue game. the original dungeon crawler style game. Such as Hack and Moria from the same era, and more recently, titles like Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup.
Rogue-Lites are pretty much anything else that spawned off the permadeath, normally randomised layout mechanic, and then later expanded into semi-permadeath like Hades shows, or Sunless Sea/Skies, to even management like games such as Cultist Simulator.
It's like how early FPS games were called Doom-Clones until it became a semi obsolete term now somewhat replaced recently by the term "boomer shooter", which is looser than the original, but still helps describe the general feel that's expected.
Most of the Like vs Lite argument is really over how similar the title is to the the 1980 Rogue title it should be for the "Like" suffix to apply.
And it doesn't help that they're barely distinguishable between each other when spoken in my accent.
FTL and BoI are rogueLITEs too, not roguelikes.
The distinction is much easier to underatand if you think of one distinction- roguelites have meta progression. It might be with metacurrency like in Hades, it might be with progress unlocks like BoI.
Roguelikes are ALWAYS the same. You could start a fresh copy of a game or one with 1000hrs game time and the game balance and chances will be exactly the same, only thing that affects gameplay is likes is skill and experience.
Spot on. Spelunky is a good example of a Rogue-like.
Not to be that guy, but in Isaac you unlock new floors, bosses, characters, items and character starting items. So Isaac is like a Rogue-Like-Lite awkward middle point
I'd say FTL and Binding of Isaac kinda skirt the line though, as you unlock more items and levels/content permanently even after losing a run. You don't start the run with better items, sure, but in the case of isaac you have greater potential for stronger runs and unlock stronger characters the more you play, and even permanently get a D6 for Isaac at a point. For FTL you get different starting ships and potential events, which is harder to say is a straight upgrade, but still muddies it a bit from being a pure rogue like.
Being a HUGE Supergiant fan, its nice to see people doing things like this. The attention they and their older games are getting is really great. Fun watch, the attention to visual detail is incredible, definitely check out Bastion for some more drink ideas.
Well, nothing will jolt you awake from a micro-nap quite like hearing someone say, "Thank you for falling asleep watching me..."
But seriously, I just shut my eyes for a second during the calls to action and woke up to that. Kind of creepy, Greg.
May I recommend playing Bastion. Not only does it have a gorgeous soundtrack, it also has a fair share of drinks in it. They're power ups. 😁
They aren't really mixed drinks in Bastion though...
I'm replaying and was just wondering earlier what werewhiskey would taste like
RogueLIKES are about the individual runs and generally don't have an overarching progression, RogueLITES are focused on overall progression rather than the individual runs. The definition of either is not dependent on whether or not it is turn-based. Hope that clears up any confusion!
Missing the cosplay from the last episode. Greg would make a great dionysus.
You should do a “Neptune’s Wrath”! Such a cool drink with a very fashionable color
Yer Overly Sarcastic Productions explains gods so well as well. Dionysus is nuts yo 😂
Great video 🙂👏🏻👏🏻
His groupies (Maenads) are also nuts yo.
That's why it's FUUUNN~
I'm glad you've used tonka in a rum drink now because after I picked some up I realized I REALLY like a drink with tonka and honey and a nice dark rum, I liked it better than scotch and tonka
Funny I just grew an absolute addiction to this game and this pops up outta nowhere
That’s great because I just grew a massive addiction to achohol great for both of us
Just so you know it’s a joke
ITS SO GOOD.
That's a common experience. Supergiant is the only company I will ever preorder from.
Bastion has a ton of drinks! I’d love to see how you make the bastion bourbon
GREG! I have a request! I have a friend with chrohn's disease, but he is finally getting surgery and I promised to make him his first ever proper drink once he recovers from his surgery, do you have any suggestions for a fancy/cool but low percentage cocktail I could make?
I hope he sees this
@@TheBones1188 thanks, ive only got a few ideas, and hoping to get someone who knows more's input
Commenting to boost!
A snowball, 2 oz advokat 1 oz rum, half oz lime juice.
Stir with lemonade
Bumbu Rum has a creme version that is basically like rumchata mixed with irish cream liquor. Just that over ice is pretty great. It's got some great vanilla flavors and a bit of muted spice notes hiding amongst the cream. The disturbing thing is that the alcohol presence doesn't really change much if you add in almost an equal part of a proofier rum. Anyway, Bumbu Creme with a coffee liquor, some chocolate bitters, and a twist of orange would be great. Not exactly low-proof, but you don't need to drink a whole lot of it to experience the flavors. I think that's actually more important than finding drinks that border on mocktails. An alternative would be to get a nut-milk bag and make a milk clarified punch of some description. There's plenty of recipes on youtube for making various milk clarified punches, along with tips and tricks for tuning the milk clarification process.
When I saw the bottle sneak peak on instagram, I screamed HAAAADES and sent it to my husband and he was confused and didn't know what I was so excited for. Sigh.
I am also loving these longer format videos with all the history and such things.
"Comprised of rare ingredients:
1 ounce of simple syrup-"
I found that interesting actually. Cause about 5:30 into the video, he talks about honey being available to ancient people and sugar being non-existent. So simple syrup would be a rare or even impossible ingredient. Or... Something only available to the gods. 😮
Having seen your past videos I was Shocked that you didn't open with one of the many amazing songs on the Hades OST! And then you revealed you haven't beaten Meg yet. Keep playing, you won't regret it!
I mean, I don't have the rights to those songs either though
@@howtodrink I meant you singing them yourself. You'll see...
Hell-errrrrrrr! Love Bénédictine D.O.M. Liqueur in gin sours for that good herbal kick.
Mythology is convoluted and counter-intuitive throughout each one, coming from another person that studies mythology, i dont know if you do but you know your stuff and it brings me joy
The research going into this episode was incredible. Some behind-the-scenes praise where it's due, my dude. Also, holy crap referencing Nyarlathothep?? deep lore right there
Benedictine sounds very interesting. It’s like a blend of many different herbs, roots, and spices.
man when you had "titan's blood" as one of them I for a second thought "there's no way he's going to try to make a cocktail with actual blood in it right?" cause like, you can go to a butcher and get coagulated blood. this is a thing you could have done. and it would have been a challenge to make it palatable to say the least.
not really, finding a little bit of cooked blood in steak is really tasty and a bit of a treat if you get any.
Besides, blood is fucking delicious.
I never knew vampires were real
@@gorg6151 Oi'm not a feckin' leech ya reprobate!
Have any of y’all actually had straight blood, or are you thinking of myoglobin?
I am so happy about this episode
Supergiant's Bastion would be perfect for an episode, the game is full of drinks that you use as power-ups!
I know nothing about drinks, but your vibes are immaculate, and I love how you clearly do your research on the topics! 😄
So, before going to bed, I had the choice to either read a doctrinal article about administrative law or to watch this video.
I'm gonna be a terrible teacher, but a pretty great host.
Pretty sure as long as you review the doctoral thesis tomorrow and reward yourself with a lovely drink the students not going to know or care the difference. As long as they pass XD
@@angelwhispers2060 Well, I'm actually only a student aiming to become a teacher. So as long as I pass I guess haha
I'm in the same boat. I have two lesson plans I need to turn in for grading, but.... here I am! 😅
I was looking at the pretty bows on those bottles, wondering who tied them, or if they were pre-tied when you bought them. And then you surprised me by talking about all the time and effort you put into making them. I'm impressed and proud of you! No, for real, I'm not kidding. I can't tie a nice bow to save my life, so I can only imagine how much time and frustration it would have taken me to make those. Just wanted to say, your work on the little details does not go unnoticed or unappreciated. Thank you.
I like how his hair got just a little messier every time he “looked into the void”
Fun fact, there is mead liquor that they make in several different countries, the ones i have had are from Lithuania, and it was 50% and had all kinds of wonderful spices, berries and stuff added to it. I feel like that is a nectar like drink as is.
Great choice of subject Greg! Hades Rules!
Dude i fell in love with those last few seconds. You're great, man. Lovable dude who knows how to truly enjoy a drink.
I remember seeing a tumblr post about bees that ended up making green and purple honey because they were collecting sugar from a nearby Skittles factory
Using actual nectar (possibly from a pomegranate, passion fruit, or apple for origin sake, although apricot, lemon, strawberry, or other sources would likely work wonders as well?) to add a soft sweet fruity glow to the nectar may be an idea
I finally get Hades as a gift and he makes a drink for it on the same week.
I highly respect the amount of effort greg puts into changing subjcets, I had no clue where the diablo comparison thing was going and then boom, in-game drinks.
"Tonka beans are illegal"
Me, in Europe: Oh you mean haute cuisine. Gotcha.
It's ridiculous. The amount of tonka bean a person would have to eat to reach toxic levels is roughly the same as for many other spices, like nutmeg, and vastly exceeds the amount one would actually have in a dish. It's not just tonka bean, either. There are other culinary delights that have to be swapped out for less-delightful alternatives because, like tonka beans, they also contain coumarin.
@@HayTatsuko I'm a chef and American food makes me sad when I hear about what's banned. I get that it contains coumarin but whoever makes the decisions needs some assistance.
Fake flavours, sugar replacements and e-colours in kid's cereal that have been proven to cause accelerated diabetes: 😀
A literal bean that you'd need to eat kilos of: 😡
The liver doesn't clear coumarin, so there's sort of a lifetime limit before the liver gives out.
Problem is we don't do real math on these in the US, and it likely errs greatly to the cautious side. Nevermind cinnamon, which has a tiny tiny amount of coumarin, but is a lifetime staple for many Americans, included in so many of our favorite foods. So many.
It would be interesting to know the real numbers and the real thresholds and the lifetime risk across the various sources like Tonka beans.
@@monkeybench Our list of banned food is more about lobbying groups than safety for human consumption. I'm not sure which industry was competing with spice beans, but I guess they shelled out.
Edit: he said it in the video. DOW Chemical. Not surprised, they're a big one.
@@ScotHarkins Up tp 0,1 Micrograms cumarin/Kilogram bodyweight is considered harmless. Daily intake! As one Tonka-bean has about 1,5g and roughly contains 3% Cumarin, you get about 50mg, if you have one bean per day. So even for most females, that is considered harmless. And who eats a whole tonka-bean daily in some drink or dessert? 500mg/kg bodyweight is immediately dangerous. Which means, a healthy 80kg-man hits instant problems, if he consumes about... 800 beans? Sort of silly...
I want to thank you for suggesting Plantation rum in your past videos. Its absolutely the best and reasonably priced as well. Keep these great videos coming.
I'm getting my hades tattoo on Friday so this is the greatest timing ever
A+ presentation; the ambrosia in particular looks spot-on.
I thought you were finally going to reveal you’ve been Lord of the Underworld the whole time
Turns out we're all cultist of Nyalathotep, I guess...
He's saving that for 2M subs.
Beginning a greek mythology inspired D&D campaign soon, and just made the nectar here in preparation. LOVE this one.
What the actual fuck, I was playing Hades yesterday and thought,
damn I hope HowtoDrink makes a cocktail based of nectar
Thank you for fulfilling this dream
I like all the extra info you gave on Greek mythology. Usually people just talk about what they're told in high school and stuff, but it's much more complex
oh so he's talking about one of my favorite games and it's a deeply cursed set of edits, love to see it
12:41 “red honey” triggered a core memory for me. You should play Sunless Sea. Cocktails based on it would be awesome, but even if we don’t get that video, you should play it.
You had me at "Cartoon mouse in welding goggles."
Hey Greg, red wine doesn't go with fish because it is generally higher in tannins and fish is high in oil. Consequently these two components react with each other and will create a metallic taste. That being said if the red wine doesn't seem to be high in tannins (the level of drying out and gritty mouthfeel in red wine is a good indicator, if it's very high tannin you can even feel it on your teeth!) and it's a less oily fish you should be fine :)
In which Greg tells us he watches Overly Sarcastic Productions without telling us he watches Overly Sarcastic Productions
Honestly no, this is the first I’ve heard of them, I’ll check them out
I love how much detail you put into your videos. The history, your prior experience with the drink, everything. You’re so damn entertaining!
Don't worry my man, Gadget affected *alot* of people at an impressionable age.
(Yes, me included)
yup, she was a tomboy but her figure brought on the crushes, cause she had a solid figure.
Its weird, when you really look at it, how Gadget is simultaneously more humanlike and more mouselike than a certain other disney mouse and she is much more attractive to us. Nothing wrong with it, remembering back to my childhood...Gadget, April O'Neil, Jessica Rabbit, need i continue the list? Lol
@@davidmathieson8661 lol not at all, i get it being an 80s kid, all those toons were probably more sexualized than they needed to be, but that's part of why they stuck with us.
I just found this channel yesterday and Ive gotta say that the production, content, and Greg are topnotch. So much research and preperation goes into every video and it makes watching a real treat. Great job, Greg and all those behind the cameras making this thing work.
Speaking of Hades, most underrated Disney villain change my mind. Man what a good villain, has it in the bag as far as Disney villains go.
Perfect casting and writing
Finally got the tonka beans I ordered. I can conclusively say that using them to make the Ambrosia cocktail is incomparable to using the spices Greg mentioned to try and approximate the flavor. 10/10 would recommend getting the beans.
Diablo is an Action RPG. Source: Am Diablo expert.
Diablo 1 was initially heavily inspired by Rogue and a lot of the genre's classics, like Nethack and Angband. It was initially turn based. Took 'em a few months to switch over to a real time engine. You can still see the Rogue influences though - random item modifiers, the need to identify items, random level generation, hardcore mode, and just how flexible build-wise the classes were in the original game.
It was basically a roguelite before that was a common term.
Folklorist here...thanks for brining attention to the nuances of "Greek mythology." A+
Honestly, if you did a series of videos where all you did was leisurely drink a cocktail and quietly talk about how it tastes, I bet a lot of people would happily fall asleep to them.
One of the many reasons I absolutely enjoy watching your videos is the massive amount of very well researched facts about the history of either the drinks themselves or where the drinks came from. Factual or fictional it's always great to learn something new and history! Awesome videos man 💪
Greg, yer like a wolf man jack that respects women and serves bevvies
I love how much mythology facts you dropped. I honestly forgot the video was supposed to be about drinks I was so invested
part of me thinks the Titan's blood should've had some grenadine in it, to represent the pomegranate seeds that Hades gives to Persephone
Or even just the Pom of Power
that part isn't in the game also I don't see a connection between titans blood and the poms
@@robinlaszlo
Good point. Just would've been a creative nod to the myths.
Or some actual pomegranate juice - it'd solve the "maybe too sweet" part with a bitter, tart kick.
The time you spent on those bows was well worth it. They were honestly the first thing i noticed! The bottles are perfect and i love it.
definitely was not expecting the swift descent into shock and cosmic horror 😅 you ok Greg?
i really really appreciate you trying to add nuance to the videogame discussion even if it's not the focus of the show. i think you're wrong but i honestly think that's irrelevant, just introducing the concepts is more important that fully explaining them, i think
i think that's really important not only in regards to videogames, but also to whatever else you talk about, gives me some appreciation for whatever little comment you might make about history or what else