Truly exceptional dialog. I've never understood a product more. I've been avoiding getting a bike stand due to having yet one more bulky item to store. But this, this is brilliant. I plan to get one and use it in my shop vise. When done working, I can simply store it neatly in a drawer!
Hi Josh, great video as always. Highly appreciate your in-depth engineering approach to bike tech. Just got my Hirobel clamp three weeks ago and love it since. Cheers, Peter
I’m hoping to put my Hirobel to work, but the moveable clamp won’t budge!!! No matter in which direction I engage or disengage the clamp , there is no movement. Very frustrating. BTW, a great overview of this tool!
Just lettin you know the Hirobel frame clamp is my go to for all of my bikes. No more clamping the the seat post and having al of the weight forward. This clamp is the cats a## for tandems by the way I can now hold my tandem on a work stand with both wheels off of the floor. The tandem market may be small but this clamp is a must have.
I really enjoy watching your videos - they are always packed with great information. Also - I hope you took your puppy out for walk after you completed the video - he looked a little bored with the proceedings!
FWIW: I own one of these and I use it on my vintage steel bicycle frames. It's much better than using a single clamp to hold your frame. Expensive but well worth it. Have fun :)
Thanks Pete! I use it on my vintage bikes too! Check out our Diamond Polished Chain video for a glimpse of the TVT92 I'm building if you're into that sort of thing!
Some of that ancient Columbus Record/SL, or Reynolds 531 SL stuff was incredibly, ridiculously thin-walled, and the top tubes of frames made with those tube sets seemed to be able to be dinged with a flick of your ring finger against them!! LOL So yeah, this device would be useful in those cases as well. 😉
Even modern round seatposts aren't always made to be clamped everywhere as the manufacturers go after ever more compliance and weight reduction. Beyond that, not all bikes have round posts, and those each require their own unique clamping forces. If we're talking old school bikes, then the seatpost is no problem, but if you look at modern ProTour bikes for instance, almost all of them have 'no clamp' indications for frame and seatpost.
Absolutely, the tool has much less pressure on painted surfaces than a traditional clamp, also, it allows you to clamp the Hirobel directly above the bicycle's center of gravity, which makes rotating it in the stand much easier, and also makes it much less 'bouncy' when doing things like bar tape installation.
@@SILCAVelo Thanks! The reason I am tempted to buy it is that I will no longer need to clamp my bike by the seat tube, which will effectively raise the height, making it easier to work with, as I will be able to stand up straight while doing so.
Hirobel works great on my road & gravel bikes but can’t figure out how to put it on my full suspension mountain bike where the rear shock is parallel to the top tube (Canyon Neuron CF8). Any ideas Josh?
I find it difficult to justify that price. I have made different clamps out of moldable plastic, to suit the different tube shapes and am also usng the age old type hanger: A hook made of a spoke on the end of a bike chain placed on a hook in the ceiling. Just put one hook under the handlebar and another under the saddle. I even use that system on my open tailgate, when away from home 🙂 To avoid the hook in the ceiling, you could place a tube or piece of wood in you repair stand clamp and put a hook on each end of the tube.
Actually a ski boot is just the shoe nobody wants, a rigid shoe that's clamped together. And it also shows why you don't want that, because unless the shoe fits perfectly you will have a miserable day. Now I have to order a Hirobel. :)
I saw you using that and thought why not just clamp the seat post but after that great justification and demonstration I’ll be ordering one. Also with that said I have a feedback stand I take to races when I’m supporting teams and clamp the seat posts but with frames and seat posts changing so much I’ll definitely be needing that. Also, off topic, I own the Silca Apron and would love to know what the press studded loop on the left chest strap is for
Ha!! We get that all the time! It's for race credentials (I despise having anything around my neck..) but also works well for keys and stuff like that (I also hate having things in my pockets!) - Josh
If only it was the $150 you mention in the video...it would be expensive...but the price is 20% higher than that. 🙄 😢 I have both the Park PRS-20 and the Feedback Sports Ultimate and, of course, you're 100% right, there are just jobs you can't do on the PRS-20. I do "clamp" the top tube but I make very sure it's the lightest possible pressure and I also tilt the stand so that weight distribution is even. But right I understand I'm taking a risk and it's with my own bikes. If I was running the shop I want to open...I'd have these for sure.
@@thedude1691 -- is this a burner account? I'll respond anyway. How much is a piece of metal, foam, and two rubber straps? I'll take the inconvenience of clamping the seatpost for now...
My Rohde Gear bike rack for my car had the same type of strap system 15 years ago. images.app.goo.gl/Z1zcw7qEAkQQb6fm7 Still going to buy this when I get my repair stand!
I have the Hirobel. Great product. It works perfectly with my older Park work stand.
Great to hear!
Truly exceptional dialog. I've never understood a product more. I've been avoiding getting a bike stand due to having yet one more bulky item to store. But this, this is brilliant. I plan to get one and use it in my shop vise. When done working, I can simply store it neatly in a drawer!
Hi Josh, great video as always. Highly appreciate your in-depth engineering approach to bike tech.
Just got my Hirobel clamp three weeks ago and love it since.
Cheers, Peter
Great to hear and thanks for watching! - Josh
I’m hoping to put my Hirobel to work, but the moveable clamp won’t budge!!! No matter in which direction I engage or disengage the clamp , there is no movement. Very frustrating. BTW, a great overview of this tool!
Just lettin you know the Hirobel frame clamp is my go to for all of my bikes. No more clamping the the seat post and having al of the weight forward. This clamp is the cats a## for tandems by the way I can now hold my tandem on a work stand with both wheels off of the floor. The tandem market may be small but this clamp is a must have.
Thanks Peter, yes, we hear this all the time about tandems.. please be sure to tell all of them you know!! - Josh
@@SILCAVelo Will do !
Just ordered a Hirobel!!
Thanks
I really enjoy watching your videos - they are always packed with great information. Also - I hope you took your puppy out for walk after you completed the video - he looked a little bored with the proceedings!
Not only is he a moron.. he won't walk on a leash, like at all, ever.. he will chase a ball though.. so not all is lost. Thanks!
FWIW: I own one of these and I use it on my vintage steel bicycle frames. It's much better than using a single clamp to hold your frame. Expensive but well worth it. Have fun :)
Thanks Pete! I use it on my vintage bikes too! Check out our Diamond Polished Chain video for a glimpse of the TVT92 I'm building if you're into that sort of thing!
Some of that ancient Columbus Record/SL, or Reynolds 531 SL stuff was incredibly, ridiculously thin-walled, and the top tubes of frames made with those tube sets seemed to be able to be dinged with a flick of your ring finger against them!! LOL
So yeah, this device would be useful in those cases as well. 😉
Hi Josh, Thanks for the video! I have a Pinarello. I will be ordering a Hirobel today. Ted
Thanks Ted!
Thanks for the video. It s expensive but I ordered one. I don t want to take the risk to damage my frames.
Josh;
Another great video! I learned a few things with this one! Cheers
Thanks!
Once you balance the bike properly, what would be the issue with clamping the seatpost which is made for being clamped?
Even modern round seatposts aren't always made to be clamped everywhere as the manufacturers go after ever more compliance and weight reduction. Beyond that, not all bikes have round posts, and those each require their own unique clamping forces. If we're talking old school bikes, then the seatpost is no problem, but if you look at modern ProTour bikes for instance, almost all of them have 'no clamp' indications for frame and seatpost.
How much weight can it support by itself?
Would this tool accessory have any use working with steel frames? Protecting the paint job perhaps? Ergonomics?
Absolutely, the tool has much less pressure on painted surfaces than a traditional clamp, also, it allows you to clamp the Hirobel directly above the bicycle's center of gravity, which makes rotating it in the stand much easier, and also makes it much less 'bouncy' when doing things like bar tape installation.
@@SILCAVelo Thanks! The reason I am tempted to buy it is that I will no longer need to clamp my bike by the seat tube, which will effectively raise the height, making it easier to work with, as I will be able to stand up straight while doing so.
Hirobel works great on my road & gravel bikes but can’t figure out how to put it on my full suspension mountain bike where the rear shock is parallel to the top tube (Canyon Neuron CF8). Any ideas Josh?
Often times you can put it under the nose of the saddle with good results, but yes, some suspension designs make it very tricky!
I find it difficult to justify that price. I have made different clamps out of moldable plastic, to suit the different tube shapes and am also usng the age old type hanger: A hook made of a spoke on the end of a bike chain placed on a hook in the ceiling. Just put one hook under the handlebar and another under the saddle. I even use that system on my open tailgate, when away from home 🙂
To avoid the hook in the ceiling, you could place a tube or piece of wood in you repair stand clamp and put a hook on each end of the tube.
For further validation of the fact of carbon wall thickness variation, check out Leuscher Teknik’s carbon bike ‘cut up’ videos on TH-cam.
His videos are really great. Have to love geeking out with the engineers!
Actually a ski boot is just the shoe nobody wants, a rigid shoe that's clamped together. And it also shows why you don't want that, because unless the shoe fits perfectly you will have a miserable day. Now I have to order a Hirobel. :)
I saw you using that and thought why not just clamp the seat post but after that great justification and demonstration I’ll be ordering one. Also with that said I have a feedback stand I take to races when I’m supporting teams and clamp the seat posts but with frames and seat posts changing so much I’ll definitely be needing that.
Also, off topic, I own the Silca Apron and would love to know what the press studded loop on the left chest strap is for
Ha!! We get that all the time! It's for race credentials (I despise having anything around my neck..) but also works well for keys and stuff like that (I also hate having things in my pockets!) - Josh
@@SILCAVelo Ha wicked, thanks Josh
I love this tool!
Thanks!
If only it was the $150 you mention in the video...it would be expensive...but the price is 20% higher than that. 🙄 😢
I have both the Park PRS-20 and the Feedback Sports Ultimate and, of course, you're 100% right, there are just jobs you can't do on the PRS-20. I do "clamp" the top tube but I make very sure it's the lightest possible pressure and I also tilt the stand so that weight distribution is even. But right I understand I'm taking a risk and it's with my own bikes. If I was running the shop I want to open...I'd have these for sure.
$185 for a bar with a strap. I'm sure it's good, but...
@@richcole3931 How much is a carbon frame repair?
@@thedude1691 -- is this a burner account? I'll respond anyway. How much is a piece of metal, foam, and two rubber straps? I'll take the inconvenience of clamping the seatpost for now...
My Rohde Gear bike rack for my car had the same type of strap system 15 years ago. images.app.goo.gl/Z1zcw7qEAkQQb6fm7 Still going to buy this when I get my repair stand!
avoid clamping the frame - kiss
Thanks Ming, yes, the best way to 'clamp' the frame is to NOT clamp the frame!!