Editing photos on a HUGE macOS touchscreen (Alogic Clarity 32")
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- Lo and behold, a macOS compatible desktop touchscreen! In this video, I review the new 32" 4K Alogic Clarity Max Touch display, which includes an integrated webcam and macOS/Windows compatible touchscreen, plus the Alogic Clarity Fold Stand and Stylus. I also put the display through a series of color accuracy and uniformity tests.
Disclaimer: Alogic provided me with a screen, stand and stylus to create this review. They have not paid for this review, nor have they had any editorial involvement. All opinions are my own.
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📕 CHAPTERS
0:00 Specifications
2:07 More specs
2:44 Models
2:58 Stand
3:10 Speakers
3:23 Webcam
4:01 Finish
4:11 HDR
4:45 Bit depth
5:48 Gamut coverage
8:17 Uniformity
8:55 Color accuracy
9:26 Touchscreen and stylus
10:26 Experience
12:01 Fold stand
13:04 Final thoughts
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Very good review Todd
Great review Todd, I like it.
Being able to pull my 32" HDR monitor down towards me and use the screen as a touch-screen / tablet -- that would be great! But alas, I note here that pixel-accurate navigation doesn't cut it. And it's a glossy screen - and worse, 8-bit only! What a pity. Thanks for the detailed review Todd!
I have been using an xp-pen artist pro 24" ... been one of my best tools, as an architect, work on Archicad in 3D and draw in Photoshop ... saved me tons of paper :D
Thanks for the great review! If this had come out earlier, I definitely would have purchased the 27" instead of the 32". 32" is HUGE and with the advantage of 10-bit color on the 27", makes it a great option. BTW - It seems that Alogic sent you the Clarity Active Stylus Pen? They have a new "Clarity Active Stylus Pen 2" listed on their website that is apparently designed to go with the monitor, pairs automatically, has more pressure sensitivity, has tilt sensitivity and a built in eraser function. Bummer that the pen wasn't available when I bought my pen and monitor a month ago!
Wow! I want to like this monitor so bad but i agree that 8-bit is disappointing. Maybe this is the first of many displays of this kind to come. Great review!
Thanks for the review. Did I understand correctly that you cannot have different pen pressures with the Clarity like you have with Wacom?
Great video, and right when I’m in the market. One BIG QUESTION I have..
When the monitor is in the lowered position, and you were using the stylus, you always in the video appeared to be hovering over the screen touching ONLY with the stylus. Does the touch monitor not have the capability to ignore your palm?
When I use my iPad with pencil, or my Wacom with my desktop, I can freely rest my whole hand on the screen/wacom and it allows me to use the stylus much like I would a pen/pencil on real paper.
I can’t imagine using this screen for long if it doesn’t have this capability and I always had to hover and only touch it with their stylus.
Can you clarify on this please?
Thank you in advance!!
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re control, I suppose you can still use the mouse as well? or macos does not support that?
and yes, i'd keep a large wooden box for that height issue.
Hi, thanks for this test. But I didn't quite understand whether the stylus was pressure-sensitive (like the ipad stylus with procreate).
My problem with all of these monitors, is that when you used a 144Hz display, it's almost impossible to go back to 60Hz. Same goes for IPS vs OLED displays. So here I am waiting for a decent 144Hz display for color editing in Lightroom (preferabele OLED with the pixels issue fixed completely).
agreed - I have a 60hz 4k monitor at home - just bought a laptop with 165hz and now my 4k just seems horrible. Once you go up in hertz the slower screens just look terrible.
At the very first sight of your video, even before I hit play, I was like, “Shut up and take my money!!”
But after the review: 8bit, glossy, not pressure sensitive, non-extendable stand… it breaks my heart to put my wallet away. Our workflow already incorporates an iPad pro (and Procreate) which we’ve come to depend on for our animation work. This does not convince us to leap toward Alogics hardware… yet. But we’ll be keeping an eye for the next iteration.
Thx for the review!
Clarity Max Touch is pressure sensitive and offers palm rejection support. The screen is compatible with Microsoft Pen Protocol (MPP) 2.0 Styluses (most Microsoft Surface styluses use this technology) for both Mac and Windows . If the stylus is pressure sensitive, Clarity Touch monitors support up to 4096 levels of pressure sensitivity, but not tilt-sensitivity. When not using a stylus, Clarity Touch can track up to 10 points of touch at once (all your fingers), delivering an intuitive touch experience with all the gestures you’re used to from your phone or tablet.
Alogic Fold stand is an additional SKU one can buy separately. Having said that, Clarity Screen comes with a solid and sturdy metal stand that allows easy height, tilt, pivot, swivel adjustments. You can also look at buying Alogic Glide Arms, if free movement of the screen in any angle is of prime requirement.
I still prefer normal non-touch 4K screens together with a separate tablet like an Intuos etc. Why? Although it will take some time to get used to the hand/pen being "remote" that is not being in the visual path, my hand is not blocking the image.
Cintiq Pro is still the king. I'm still using 24-inch model, which is a bit old in 2024. But I reckon all new models Wacom introduced recently may be the best for professional work. 10 bit Pantone validated screen, 120Hz, Pro Pen 3 and other bells & whistles. Touch always been a gimmick IMHO, but you cant beat Wacom's pens, they are that good.
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Nice & Thanks :)
@15:10 - you mention needing a display for museums, kiosks, etc. - there is such a monitor that already exists. Look up the company “Ideum Touch Tables”. Also a computer type large touch screen. I asked the company if it could be used for “Drafting” and they do show it and market it for that use, but I only saw it being used as a drawing display with zoom in/out capabilities. Not what I wanted to use it really for actually drafting on a digital medium. I wish they could have made it for that purpose, but it’s just a large display monitor. Sad.
I wish - like you stated - that apple make a 17”, 24”, 27” iPad (no cables to use connected to another machine - like the Wacom or even this monitor). Now that size iPad I WOULD BUY !!
I've been using the Surface Studio 2 for the last 4 years (8 bit display) , I wonder how this compares because while that computer is fantastic, it's getting a bit long in the tooth.
What pen are you using
Todd, are you sure that this stylus doesn't have pressure sensitivity? On Alogic website there is a info that this monitor and 27" version is compatible with their stylus that supports pressure sensitivity. Actually 4096 levels of pressure this stylus has, according to the information on Alogic website. Also, as i see, based on specs on their website, there is a huge difference in colors between 32" and 27" versions of Clarity Touch. 32" is 16 million colours, but 27" version is over billion colors. As i understand, it is huge difference.
To be honest i'm really interested in Clarity Touch 27 version, but there is almost no reviews of these monitors, especially from art perspective. There is a ton of questions from me about the work with stylus:
- how is delay between tip of a pen and drawn line?
- how thin the glass of a screen is? Is there "parallax" effect while drawing?
- Is there jitters of a line when drawing?
All of these questions are pretty important, but there is no information about this things in reviews.
But thank you for this review, Todd!
Hey! I just got my monitor but still waiting on my pen, once I have it I could share my personal experience with it if you want.
@@tazmota6503 Cool!! Yes, please, share your experience. I really want to buy this monitor :-)
@@tazmota6503 I´m very interested in the drawing experience as well - parallax, jitter/wobble, etc. Someone else wrote it supports MPP 2.0, so I´m guessing it doesn´t even reach MPP 2.5 level (which is supported by MS Surface Pro/Laptop Studio). But still, I´d like to know....
Hi I use AutoCAD, is this screen any good displaying linework?
8 Bit colour, glossy screen on a 32 is a no. As for HDR is a no at the moment as as far as I am aware, there are no HDR printers, we cannot print HDR. This screen also needs a greater integration in OS operating system. I am not very tall but I think that the height if the screen is also got to be a no. It is a good start, OS intergration on a matt screen. Wow.
Lag/latency when drawing with the pen looks bad? Is it?
This monitor is not good. I owned it and it had severe latency issues, delayed touch response, poor menu and it's not actually designed with Mac in mind. To top that all off the customer service is really not the best.
Only plus, is that the build looks sleek!
Do those problems disappear when used with windows? 🤔
@@flyingaviator8158 possibly, since you don’t need drivers to run it on windows.
I think it should be promoted as the windows alternative to a Mac display… if it works any better on windows.
@@flyingaviator8158 no I have the same monitor, the company doesn't want to give me my money back
Would be great for a DAW.
How did you connect your Mac to this display? Just USB-C or HDMI or either?
I would use usb-c.
You can use either.
@@soniakochhar4964 yep
This are just rebranded Innocn displays, it looks exactly like the innocn 27p1u pro, they Use MPP 2.6 I believe(which is microsoft pen protocol)
Interesting - where did you get this information from? The latest iteration of MPP is 2.5, as far as I know, and it´s being used on MS Surface Pro 8-10 and Laptop Studio 1 +2. There´s a video from Shogmaster with the Innocn 27P1U 4K 20pt multitouch Pen Display, and he´s showing how the pen behaves. Looks actually pretty damn good! I´ll look into that!
I don't need it, but I want it! NOW! 😂
i think you should highpass your voice and remove some of the room resonance with an eq or acoustic treatment. otherwise super good video
2:24 It’s either “Eh~ Logic” or “Allergic”
Interesting
this is Genius.... apple refusing to put touch support is a joke that's been going on for too long! after my windows touchscreen, I was like dude... never going back. I'm not saying to stay touch all the times, but ! would be amazing if you had the option to pick....
Certainly Apple making touchscreens that are as responsive as iPads at this size would be a digital artists dream come true
Glossy is a deal breaker for me, along with that piano gloss black border. If they'd change those two things I'd definitely order one!
Surface studio: Look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power
I think to wish for a none glossy finish totally misses the point of this display.
Absolutely agree. There is a huge section of users who prefer Glossy monitors as they offer next level of visual experience.
@@soniakochhar4964 totally is for me. I have the LG 24” for Mac specifically because it’s glossy and was $700.
Didn't Microsoft already do this?
With the Surface Studio, a 27 inch 3:2 All-in-One PC. This is a standalone monitor. So, no, they did not already do this, unfortunately. Wish they'd decouple the monitor from the laptop-grade internals.
Yes for $4400.
Great review, but it’s a hard pass. With photo colour grading, the small changes and accuracy matters. Shame.
If you're a photographer or videographer, you'd be better off buying a BenQ monitor at half the price.
I have this and I don't like the glossy and just not 100% happy. Which is the BEST BenQ to get 32" matt for Photo Editing??
Just a little more and. Macs will be able to do something similar to surface studios, which is about 10 years old😂
32" is good for video editing. Photos, not so much.
The goverment must ask Apple and every “all in one” computer company to include a “video in” port in every iMac or all in one computer. Dont you think?
"A"logic. Having no logic. Interesting name wouldn't you say? Thanks for sharing about this.
what a waste of money