Turns Out Undertale is actually a horror game..Fun...
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- Wow. Just one more episode after this. I can't believe this first musical let's play is almost done. What a finale it will be. Also this part is jacked up. lmao.
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Oh, here's some fun (aka very sad) Alphys lore for you! After hanging out with Undyne, you can call her and Papyrus in any area of the game to get their commentary on the room. If you call them in the garbage dump, Undyne talks about how she first met Alphys there while Alphys was standing and staring off the edge of the waterfall.
It's heavily implied that Alphys was considering committing suicide here, and Undyne saved her life.
But... if you kill Mettaton or Undyne and reach a neutral ending, Alphys mysteriously goes missing.
Oh fuck...
I hadn't noticed that detail (T_T)
Wow.....thats dark.
ooh shit I forgot about that...
man, toby really wasn't afraid to explore some pretty dark themes
@@spootot Yeah, imo Alphys is one of the most tragic characters in the game... makes me sad that a lot of players hate her :(
@@Violet111 How can people possibly hate her... I don't get that.
I like to believe Marco only went on the date with Alphys purely to hear the dating! music and, as a result, was incredibly annoyed at the lack of such.
"I'm Marco!"
The game didn't ask you to 'name player character,' it asked you to 'name the fallen human.'
Second best plot twist of the game!
I'm not sure theorists have figured out why and how we can name Chara (the actual character with a backstory) instead of Frisk (the character we control)
Not being able to name Frisk makes sense, being able to name Chara doesn't
@@laytonjr6601Because Chara is the fallen human the game asks you to name at the start. So you can input Chara. You can't input Frisk's name because the game isn't asking for Frisk's name
@@KodasGarden but why can you name the fallen human? What does it mean for the story that Chara's name is given by the player?
@@laytonjr6601 Because Chara is the in-universe manifestation of the player's decisions. If we are peaceful, then they were peaceful, if a bit out there in their idea to free the monsters. If we are evil, then they were evil and wished for the destruction of everything.
I love seeing your reaction to the TRUE LAB. When I first played, it gave me such a feeling of dread and pain. Also! I wasn't sure if you noticed, but the gifts Alphy's was going to give you were actually for Undyne! (Metal Polish for her armor, Cleansing Cream for Scales, and the Spear Repair Kit for well.. Spears!)
Alphys' date is always very funny to me, but it's always difficult to talk about it in depth normally cause of what follows, and with good reason. The True Lab is one of Undertale's darkest moments, reading how an experiment searching for a way to achieve freedom turned so horribly wrong, slowly realizing the amalgamates are multiple dead monsters fused together, understanding how Alphys' psyche worsened so badly, and even having some sweet or really sad moments, So Cold especially hits for me, cause if you pay attention, you realize that's the dead mother of the kid who tells bad jokes in snowdin, his father in the hotel mentioning how she passed away and he ran away from home ever since, it's some really good stuff. Loved seeing you react to all this crazy stuff, it can go from some really goofy stuff to serious out of nowhere and I love that!!
You may have missed it, but there was a vending machine near the large door in True Lab that you could acquire some healing items from.
Fun fact: Telling Undyne "anime is not real" produces an equally epic reaction.
The interesting thing is that even after you end the True Pacifist ending you will be missing one or two very, VERY important plot details. It's kind of genius, but getting those details (and quite possibly the two best soundtracks) would demand you to do things you most likely don't want to.
You can also learn some of them by taking the long walk after the final battle, all the way back to the very beginning that you came from. Asriel waits there, and will tell you some of the last pieces of lore.
@Chaosstripe I had forgotten about that. Not sure Mr Meatball will do that, and I don't see him doing THAT route.
*But nobody came. . .
@@chaosstripe9446 seems like a bit of a spoiler
@@birdflox1337 yeah, i dont see why mentioning asriel was necessary
This is going to sound critical, though I don’t mean it that way, but… it’s interesting how, in some cases, your takes on the music were actually deeper when you didn’t have the context. Like, I thought it was super-interesting how you described the lab theme as feeling like aimless, curious wandering, and how you described the amalgamate battle theme as something that sounds almost playful and not malicious (as far as I remember your words). The former is just plain accurate, while the latter is so valid it’s downright incredible!
It’s almost like being in the actual situation made you more constrained to the obvious way the scene makes you feel, like you were (understandably) too freaked out during the battles to feel anything but freaked out and stressed. (Which, again: Not criticism, just an interesting observation on how context or the lack thereof can change your perspective. A meta-observation, if you will!)
That’s why the original intention of the channel was to completely remove all context and speak on why things feel how they feel. I got a lot of pushback for it over time.
@@MarcoMeatball I think both are important. Video game music is meant to be listened to in context, but sometimes the context can mislead you. This is, of course, done on purpose. The True Lab is meant to be a scary place, and you're not meant to realize until after the fact that the amalgamates aren't trying to hurt you. If you sleep in the bed for long enough, one will even appear and, after hovering menacingly over you for a moment, will tuck you in. Listening to the music out of context allows you to analyze it without bias, but video games are also gestalt pieces of art meant to be taken as a whole. As with many works of art, gaining new insight can give a new perspective on the same work.
Basically, it's the difference between looking at a specific tree vs. the whole forest. The forest washes out the details of that one tree, while the tree gains new meaning by being a part of the larger forest. Both are worthy of consideration, and only by looking at both can you get a complete picture.
Music in video games is often only a supporting element, meant to add emotional color to whatever the player is already experiencing. As such, most players don't notice the fine details and only remember how they felt, and their enjoyment of a song is more linked to how they felt during that part of the game. Breaking down the music as standalone works of art can reveal how much effort went into crafting a song to enhance or produce that emotion, and how they're often deliberately downplayed so they don't draw attention away from the larger experience the game is trying to convey. That's not an easy task, and it often goes unnoticed and unappreciated, despite how crucial of a role it plays.
@@Greywander87 That... is one of the smartest things I've ever read on this whole platform.
@@Greywander87 That's such a brilliant breakdown of the medium.
This contrast you are describing is probably the intention of the developer, or part of it at least.
That vocal sound in the True Lab's area theme and battle theme (heard at 15:35 and 17:21 for example) is a sample from Earthbound's "Cave of the Past" theme. And the Cave of the Past's sound itself is actually sampled from the first couple seconds of Deirdre by the Beach Boys.
Funny how just isolating and repeating a sound can change its tone so much.
THIS BLOWS ME BECAUSE IT’S BEEN SO FAMILIAR FOR YEARS AND THIS EXPLAINS IT THANK YOU
On that note about wanting the music to change because of what you experienced:
Remember, you went back. As far as the world is concerned, all you've done is go and talk with Asgore a bit. You didn't battle him, he didn't die, and Flowey didn't go god-mode.
Isn't it even further back than that, though? You're LOADing back to before you ever met him. In this timeline, it hasn't happened yet; you backtracked to do other stuff.
@@MastaDRD Nah he saved before the Barrier room. He's (in world) already talked to Asgore and seen the Mr. Dad Guy he is.
34:21 This encounter is so powerfull. After fights with all Amalgamates you expected just another creepy, but still basic monster. And then you hear the music, you see Crystal (that's the monster's name) can't attack you that she is basically dying in front you. Not to mention your Acts become so disturbing and ruthless for this fight. It really makes you think how big of a tragedy Amalgamates have to suffer.
They aren't disturbing I don't think. Your options are 'heckle', 'joke', and 'laugh'. The amalgam's husband in life was a comedian. Those acts remind her of him, that's why they 'calm her down'. Also, if you continue playing through, you'll find out that her ending isn't quite what it seems to be here. I don't want to spoil that though.
@@BlueProphet7 Check what happens after you use Heckle and Laugh for the first time. That's the disturbing part
@@PrivateDaisy the bad things end with "what? You didn't say that?" so they don't actually happen
@@BlueProphet7 Dude, it doesn't matter, it's disturbing either way, cause it's unexpected.
@@PrivateDaisy no need to be upset, just pointing out that the character isn't as sad as it initially appears
The game only seems more difficult now because you accidentally equipped the manly bandana instead of the locket, lowering your defense SIGNIFICANTLY.
For me, the scene when you meet Snowdrake’s refrigerated mother is the most musically unsettling moment in the whole game. You never know when the song’s pitch will change, and that weird tremolo effect makes everything sound wobbly. Very cool, but very creepy too. 34:17
It’s really sad
Random Fun fact:
That "theme" isn't its own theme.
Its just snowdins theme with an disturbing effect filter over it, meaning you could get that music effect on any song in the game if you replace it in the code.
I can't believe the genshin impact NPCs are now gaming youtubers
What
Good one
_wheeze_
People wanting NPCs more because they’re so cool from Sumeru:
The IRL NPC:
Fontaine npcs do be gaming 😎
the story of the true lab is a very...weird one. mostly because theres a puzzle peice that was intentionally left missing, and still hasnt been fed to us to this very day. lol. ill spoil some of his backstory, mostly because he's sorta a "side dish" its stuff you don't NEED to know to enjoy the game, and you can go the entire game without any sort of knowledge of him and doesn't really influence much in the actual story, except maybe piecing ONE peice of dialog that hints to gaster's existance in the genocide route, if you decide to tackle that(which i recommend you do or at least watch a playthrough, as its got a LOT of lore you will miss out on and puts some things into context).
you don't really spot it, but its hinted heavily in the game that there is a "missing link" connected to the true lab. theres a bunch of theories, but the "facts" we have of this, is there was once ANOTHER royal scientist, his name was W.D. Gaster, wd stands for wing dings, and he speaks in such a font just like sans and papyrus, which are both linked to gaster in one way or another as they "just appeared out of nowhere" in snowdin and made themselves at home and the obvious font similarities, especially since sans' alternate font where you dont hear his goofy "ehehehehehe" is the font "Aster". gaster eventually died, falling into "his own creation"(that giant mechanical machine you see in the background of the CORE? yeah, thats one of his creations, idk if its the one that he fell into though), which somehow caused the entire storyline to warp around, completely erasing himself from existance in the story entirely regardless on resets. he MAYBE actually has a chance to appear in the game, its a rare event in the waterfalls, but we aren't fully sure if thats gaster or not, but the community has basically canonicalized him as the face of gaster.
the rest is spoiler territory so ill hold off on that. but yeah, this all happens and its stuff you would NEVER find unless you fiddle through the code or get lucky.
(also congrats on your role in genshin, i just started watching you recently, and to hear you are now voicing a character in a game i play is crazy lol)
THIS
Yeah that last fight always gets me too, the context surrounding it, the way that her attacks are sparse and errant, the use of heavily distorting the snowdin track. It’s a tear-jerker
Undertale is such a good experience, glad to see you playing through it. Love the content marco
Glad you enjoy it!
I love how 50% of new UT players will pronnounce Flowey with the word "flow" and everyone else says "Flowery"
About Amalgam, it's actually an Amalgam of Earthbound SFX
I think in the case of Marco, it happens because English is not his first language. In most languages the letter or O is pronounced as "oh" rather than "ow". So at first sight Flowey feels more natural as "floh-wee" than "flowery".
I mean, presumably it'd have the same sound as the word 'flower'. though no r, of course.
@@ocean037 what's his first language? Doesn't sound like Italian is it, from his pronunciation ^-^;
True Lab is easier but more terrifying if you realize that each monster there shows what it is made of, or rather WHO it is made of. Like Lemon Bread is the older sister of the opera singer monter in waterfall, and the refrigerator one is Snowdrake's mother. Endogeny is the most obvious as the parents of literally every dog monster. Tragic but at least you know the Act combos then.
* Song timestamps (we're almost done)!!!
* 15:35 - Here We Are (Uses the "Alphys" leitmotif)
* 17:21 - Amalgam (Uses the "Enemy" and "Alphys" leitmotifs)
I've been enjoying this playthrough more than I can describe. In some ways, experiencing the game with you has reminded me of playing the game for the first time, and it's been quite some time since a let's play has engrossed me so much. So, thanks Marco! Can't wait for the conclusion!!!
Glad you enjoy it!
I love this and how scared and emotional this game can make you with it's music alone even! Also yea that amalgamate that looks like a snowdrake monster was the dead mother of the teen comedian in snowdin and she missed her son's and husband's jokes :c And there's a cool secret when you keep lying on that one bed a creepy creature reaches out to you... and tugs you in with the sheets and gives you a pat on the head! ^o^ love it XD I'm so hyped for the final part and your reaction to some of my favorite songs then! ^^
The music on all of the three hangouts/dates you did kind of display the stuff that happens in the occasions. Papyrus' date is totally filled with a happy tune indicating the playful friendly interaction you have with him, sprinkled with some tense and hard-hitting tunes to show Papyrus' hyperactive nature.
Undyne's hangout follows the same "Dating start" theme to indicate the friendliness, however you get some "memory " in there to help you understand how good Undyne really is at heart outside of her battling persona. Then, of course you get spear of justice in there at the cooking course and following that, because she also is now hyperactive and overexcited to cook and fight with you.
Alphys, as you said, is totally awkward. Her own theme is awkward-sounding, "dating tense" drops in to amplify the tension during the Undyne section, "Confession" is brought in to emotionally heighten Alphys' confession, "Spear of Justice" of course shows Undyne's straightforward nature , and the tempo modifications are to indicate confusion and insanity.
And then, there's an interaction you will face in the next episode.
Also congrats on your role for Genshin voice acting, it was great hearing your voice in game during the lantern rite!
Yay, thank you!
"We're in a, science lab, that... is bad."
Amazed how right you got that from like 5 seconds of music lol (even if there were some terminal entries before it)
There’s so many theories about the True Lab.
Oh man.
Like most entries are Alphys’ but one can appear randomly and it’ll have an entirely different font.
It's getting soo close! Actually it is a great experience watching someone new to undertale complete it. Like, on my first playthrough I didn't understand much from those recordings (where your name was used. There's no "Marco" in undertale, it's just whatever a player types), and when I was playing the game again, I probably didnt even interact there (like, I've been there before, there's nothing new etc). But now that I have a clear picture of what happened, those recordings make so much sence.. Of course, no spoiling! Can't wait for the end of your beautiful journey!
I don't know if you've already finished the game, but at the very end you should go back to the very beginning of the game (where you first fell in the ruins) for extra lore
I finished it a month ago
@@MarcoMeatball I hope you enjoyed your play-though. Watching you play made me want to replay the game. :)
15:55 the vending machine with food was right there lol
The true horror is seeing Undyne ask *"Anime is real, right?"*
I mean, imagine you get isekai'd into a fantasy world only to find out that "dwarves" are just short humans. No elaborate beards, no compulsive drinking, no living underground, no master smiths, no Scottish accents, and so on. You'd feel at least a little lied to, right? And when you consider (a) what the monsters can do, and (b) how a single human is stronger than all monsters put together, it really isn't a stretch to think that humans would actually be capable of doing the stuff you see in anime.
That part where he rolled his eyes at anime was hilarious, I personally don't like anime but it's neat that others can enjoy it.
Tbh I don't understand how can one don't like an entire country's animation, like dang what did the country do to you
Tho if you're from a country that got invaded by Japan in ww2 then fair enough
It's unfortunate, not because I care about anime or what people think about it, but because in my experience most people who hate anime tend to have another trait that I happen to feel really threatened by. I'm not gonna say what it is, though. I'll just mentally put you and Marco down as exceptions. :)
@@myboatforacar thank
@@mariotheundying japan is a relatively small country compared to the US, and for people who do not live in its culture, the tropes common in anime can quickly become annoying, and the artstyle as well. Same could go for people looking at hollywood films and getting annoyed at superhero flicks. Although the flicks are different in several ways, they are certaintly similar, and prevailing tropes could push someone to stop watching hollywood
@MARIO THE UNDYING while I believe that most anime is plagued by very serious issues inherent to Japanese/Asian culture, I can totally concede that there's gems to be found there as well.
Despite the horror shift, it certainly is an intriguing and intense situation.
Oh man this playthrough is just so nice to relax to!
Your reaction to when she asked if you liked anime killed me
The Snowdrake you fight in Snowdin is the son of the Snowdrake comedian at MTT resort and the Deformed snowdrake in the true lab. Since his father is so critical of his sons comedy after he lost his mother, he runs away. As explained by the Father at MTT resort... Brutal...
33:56 It’s so interesting how gaster is realising how bad this was, even though gaster is probably one of the most mysterious characters in the game we get to know many things on him
Amalgamates:
17:20 Memoryheads - no one knows which monsters fused together to make THIS.
20:55 Lemon Bread - a mix between all the Waterfall enemies (Aaron, Shyren, Woshua, Moldbygg)
22:25 Reaper Bird - a mix between several monsters from the Ruins and the Core
25:38 Endogeny - a mix between all the dog families in Snowdin
34:18 Snowdrake's Mother - several monsters that fused together with a Snowdrake, specifically the Snowdrake who is the parent of the Snowdrake enemy you can encounter in Snowdin. They're the ones that look like ice dragons and make ice puns.
The penultimate continuation of my story...it all comes to a close soon.
So the interaction and date with Alphys are adorakable. I absolutely loved this entire interaction, and it made me feel a lot closer to her and appreciate her character more than the limited interactions in the Core. The fact that all the items are for Undyne make this scene even better when combined with her clear social awkwardness.
The situation in the garbage dump just makes things so much funnier, especially as you see that both Undyne and Alphys have no idea how to do this sort of thing. One has been too obsessed with science, the other too obsessed with being a royal guard. And then Alphys dumps the heavy thoughts about low self-image on me, which was pretty heavy for me, too, since I had low self-image when I first played this game. My friends understood how I was feeling, even if this interaction is supposed to be a little silly.
And as the roleplay on how to tell Undyne the truth goes out of hand, I'm giggling at the music and Alphys, and of course my comical voice for her is wavering along with the text in the box. Yes, I was still doing my comical voices. But then Undyne; my reaction was "oh, shit."
Then Alphys admits all her lies, Undyne gets a three-pointer in the trash can, and Undyne gives the biggest "reasons why you rock" speech to Alphys. Hit home for me, too. Undyne then goes further, says she'll help Alphys like herself, and I'm rocking on to Spear of Justice...and Papyrus shows. I know you seem to have a - let's say contentious relationship? - with Papyrus, but I love the guy. So I get to say my best voice (Papyrus and Asgore were my two best voices according to my friends) and watch as he and Alphys go to train...and then Undyne starts melting down. By the way, I told her anime wasn't real, keeping up with the whole tell Undyne the truth shtick.
I get told to go back to the lab by the precious cinnabone boi, then read that note that felt very much like the types of notes people who seek a permanent end to temporary problems write. I panicked; I thought Alphys was going to do something way too drastic, so I immediately headed into the door. Then I read the entries, and entry 5...when she called it the will to live and the power to change fate, the sinking feeling in my stomach got heavy...and I said "Determination" before even moving onto that line. The realization that the save points function because the player soul has so much determination, and that's why even resets work, was a fucking explosion in my head.
And then the encounters with the various Amalgamates created from injecting determination into monsters that are comatose and dying occurred, along with Alphys' hopeful journals as these monsters started waking up...before bad things happened again. That was...hard, because many of them are extremely poignant references when you know the backstories of other monsters in the underground. Like the Amalgamate that was a combination of a few different people and is Shyren's sister, the Amalgamate made up of dogs that are related to Dogamy, Dogaressa, and the rest of the dogs from Snowdin, or the Amalgamate that is outright called Snowdrake's Mother. It shows that monsters can't handle determination...at least...not normal monsters.
Stumbling upon the VHS tapes was even worse. Home videos from Tori and Gorey...of course, I knew this was Toriel and Asgore when they were about to have their child. It hit worse because I knew he was already dead from the story in New Home. They only get more creepy when some unknown monster in the videos refers to my name in the VHS. And the implication of the videos only gets worse; the human child from the story for some reason has my name, and intentionally got themselves sick with buttercup flowers, in an attempt go through the barrier and get souls to free the monsters...along with Asriel.
Finally, that weird machine? Looks familiar, doesn't it? I had figured it out; that determination extraction machine is part of the body of Photoshop Flowey. And things were starting to make a lot more sense. A sense I didn't like.
The TRUE LAB is such a spooky but magnetic experience. I love its contrast with everything that Undertale has been up until this moment in every aspect of the game, from the music to the visuals to the dialogues. Also it feels kinda nostalgic? Maybe because it reminds me of old RPGMaker horror games. Anyway your reactions to the Amalgamations were 👌 top material lmao
Can't wait for the next part!
I love the Alphys/Undyne relationship, it's so wholesome.
petition for Marco to start a horror game let's play series
I remember the lab
I remember feeling confused at the tapes
I also remember the reveal in the finale destroying me, so good luck
True Lab is not a happy place, and the music plays off it well by using battle music with strange, frantic, distorted sounds, and exploration music that is discordant and eerie, but driven. You're here to find a missing friend, and you're pushing through the terrors.
Also glad you picked up on the fact that many of the Amalgamates are combinations of some of the other monsters! Some people miss that.
Ah, the True Lab. Not where things get real in the game - I think everyone plays New Home first - but certainly when everything gets... Body horror...
I didnt notice this myself until rewatching it here, but the big "abandoned machine" in the room with the teeth-fight/amalgamate is very similar to flowey's form during the ending fight
Oh wait
Watching your gameplay of this game makes me feel like i'm playing it again for the first time despite having been a fan of it since it's release 8 years ago. I hope you will also play the other routes as Toby's use of dialogue and music only gets better.
"that looks like an...*amalgamation* of lemon bread!"
see, this guy gets it
The True Lab music (Here We Are) is very interesting! It’s in a very wonky time signature with 10 beats per measure, and if you pay close attention and compare the two, the melody is identical to the melodies in Alphys’s bouncy, awkward theme from before, just in a MUCH darker tone.
I remember playing through this... I didn't sign up for a game from the "Mother" series!! ... oh yeah... right...
I agree, I don't like scary stuff either Marco. Though it's kind of a strange dynamic, I don't like horror that makes me feel squeamish but I like anything that falls under the categories of eerie and weird.
Yeah same I'm not the biggest fan of pure horror either, mostly because it usually leaves me feeling uncomfortable and lonely. Love stuff like Over The Garden Wall or Coraline though
@@xxyzxxyz690 Coraline is a masterpiece.
Horror is one of my FAVORITE genres. I like almost all kinds of horror with one exception. I hate pointless gore. If there is gore in a scene once in a while that's okay, but I can't stand movies like Texas chainsaw massacre or hellraiser. That being said, movies like Hereditary and The Conjuring are right up my alley.
True Lab. A great lore dump, with more to come. The entries? Horrifying. The tapes? Also horrifying once you realize the full context. And just sad, seeing a brief glimpse of happiness before everything went so, so wrong.
The amalgamations....it really made me look at Alphys' character differently. Like, not liking the real you, and questioning if an unhappy truth is better than a happy lie is way too relatable. But her secrets go beyond nerdy insecurities as we've now found out.
Notice the golden flowers in the lab AND that the determination extraction machine looks a bit like the flowey boss fight from earlier.
And why is YOUR name on the tapes?? It really alarmed me the first time. I had no idea what it meant. Who was my character?
Excited to see the rest of True Lab and beyond next episode. 🙏
when you realize that the "game over" screen is actually Asgore trying to revive the first kid💀
the snowdrake amalgam fight is soo surprising and sad
like here you in this creepy place fighting creepy enemies. and then blam here she comes with slowed and distorted snowdin theme repeating the same phrase and trying her best to attack you. and the text you get from actions. it just feels so wrong
As someone of a similar age, it makes me so happy to hear the MacOS KWEK sound as your censor haha
One thing to note about both Alphys' theme and Here We Are (the song that plays in True Lab):
First of all Alphys' switches between a 5/4 and 3/4 time signature throughout the song. The feel with the chords is to give that "i'm an anime nerd" vibe and the melody is supposed to be "but i'm also kinda really dang smart too."
Here We Are is a slowed down, darker version of Alphys and also switches back and forth between 5/4 and 3/4 further proving this. The song placement in the story isn't just spooky atmosphere. It represents the guilt Alphys feels from the creations she's made inside True Lab with the experiments with determination.
TL;DR: Toby is a musical genius and uses funny time signatures to show character personality as well as lore connections.
I like to watch other people playing Undertale,especially if they love it's music.
I played it once. Most of it anyway. I couldn't bring myself to play... you know which part. However, I could watch others play it forever.
legit was about to wind down for bed, saw this, and said 'lets gooooooo' out loud and decided another 40 mins was worth it the end is the best for live reacts
actively laughing out loud at the alphys date but legit alphys' journey from genuine self loathing to relying on friends is so nice. the true lab story is a little hard to decipher from context without fandom knowledge or multiple playthroughs but you got close. congrats on being the first person I've ever seen to get the Lorem Ipsum joke
*minor spoilers below but nothing big. avoid if operating on 'safe than sorry'*
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Youre totally right in the assessment of how Undyne's theme is being used here in the date, and undyne's theme is often said to describe "determination" which is the in universe power that lets you reload save files (i e being 'determined' to continue because the game breaks the 4th wall and recognizes the player so like literally if you the player are not 'determined' the pc will not come back, p cool imo, and the save/load system are canonical timeline shifts) she's the only monster who resists insta death through being determined which you would see if you killed her in a Neutral run of the game (i think you said you did that? yeah she doesnt insta dissolve), so yeah that song playing when shes accepting alphys isnt just 'oh its her character theme' its the determination, the faith and belief undyne has that alphys is good. aww.
And yeah the True Lab is freakin Creepy.
There’s several story elements that appear here that are hard to understand without several plays or external elements, it’s up to you if ya want them fully explained or not
But that’ll probably be after the *end* end
SPOIL AGAIN (tho if you opened the comments I feel like u agreed to it)
I also love so much that at this point it’s basically impossible to lose undertale. Actually it’s basically impossible to lose undertale once you get to the omega flowey/photoshop flowey fight. Toby is a master at designing fights specifically so that they don’t feel easy but also so that you can’t really lose them either so long as you give it a good try. I mean the flowey fight saves every time you beat one of the segments so as long as you beat one every few tries you can beat the whole thing in a couple dozen attempts. You can beat the normal or pacifist route of undertale with not that much effort as long as you don’t really suck at games and even if you do you still could eventually.
So, essentially, anyone can finish this game in the neutral or pacifist run, even with the least game skill so long as they have the ‘determination’
As a person who is bad at games this is important to me
Holy crap i never realized you were only this far, i thought you played a while ago, i just finished my first pacifist route.
you gotta get to the end its AMAZING
I believe he finished a while back and is just spacing out the uploads. It's kind of a shame, because there's something about being able to participate in something as it's happening that just isn't the same when you're only coming in after the fact. But it was probably the smart play here, as there would have been no way to avoid spoilers or unsolicited "advice".
@@Greywander87 definitely
i do hope you had tissues ready during the final episode
As many tissues as you can find Marco.
Maybe a bucket
Thank you for the video, I love watching people experience Undertale :)
that bite attack in the lab is the hardest one in the entire game by far. I don't know how many times I had to redo that one... but it really adds to the horror aspect of the true lab
Would really like to see a Deltarune playthrough if you got chance, love your vibe 👍
2:44 I absolutely agree with you here. I think each character's themes matches them perfectly.
Something cool about the music at 34:18 is that it’s randomized in it’s speeds, really shows the idea of her breaking down
Not even Marco has the heart to tell Undyne that anime isn’t real.
Fun facts:
- Once you go down the lab elevator, you’re locked into the pacifist route (the monsters at the lab are inmune to attacks).
- There is a vending machine in the lab that sells you food for healing
- Just like in any other dog battle, throwing the stick wins the battle against the weird doggo instantly, but you lose the stick.
21:18
Marco: "This is actually not too bad... "
Me: "Actually it's terrible."
Marco: "Oh yeah it's terrible actually."
Hahahahaha, that made laugh so much.
The sad part about amalgamates is that all of them have some kind of lore or backstory. My personnal worst is the last with the cold drake. She's actually the mother of that one snow drake at snowdin that makes cold-based pun so that's why making snow pun calm her down, reminding her of her child. Her husband is a comedian at mtt ressort, we can even talk to him.
It's interesting how that simple details about random npc's make the game a lot more immersive and a big experience
Oooo boy it's almost time, I hope the next video a hour long
Well, on the bed where you take a nap, I suggest you stay napped to see what happens when you wait. And once you see something happening, I STRONGLY suggest you not move at all, not do anything and see to the end what happens. Oh, don't you worry; it's not a trap.
i think its fascinating to see how you approach this environment
it succeeds to make you so uncomfortable that you do not check out the chips machine (free food ;D) or really engage with the enemies (yes some are hard but all the fights are about understanding the personality of the monster)
and checking the spare option every single turn just in case someone lets you out early for some reason
Since five years I knew about the game, I actually never saw this place in game before.
Really creepy and surprising.
I didn't know Alphys was that complex.
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5 years and you missed the most important route in the game? I'm gonna guess you just didn't see enough content from it
@@mariotheundying I think time passed and I forgot about it.
Welcome to the dark secret of Alphys!
By the way, I noticed that you didn't understand what happened on the VHS, and no wonder, this is still a theory hole for the fandom, if you remember the story of how Asriel died and caused Asgore to started to collect human souls, it is more easy to unravel, but if you don't get it I will explain it here:
(WARNING: ALL THIS IS NOT SPOILER BUT YOU CAN GET HERE THEORIZING, IN CASE YOU LOVE FIGURING IT OUT FOR YOURSELF I WARN YOU... IF NOT, KEEP READING TO KNOW "WHAT REALLY HAPPENED BETWEEN ASRIEL AND "MARCO"")
Do you remember that the first human that fell was rescued and adopted by Asriel's family?
Well, they has the same name as you!
Why? I'm sorry, but that's a spoiler, I already told you that on this route they explain the complete secret story to you; ).
But what I can tell you is that by accident Asriel and "Marco" poisoned Asgore by making him a cake that had buttercup flowers (Ranunculus (All those yellow flowers at the beginning of the game and Flowey (They're poisonous))) by confusing them with buttercup cake lol, luckily Asgore recovered but for some reason that interested "Marco".
"Marco" proposes a plan to Asriel to save all the monsters, but Asriel is horrified and cries, and "Marco" convinces him by calling him crybaby and that if they succeed they will save everyone.
...
"Marco" becomes horribly ill, and while Asgore and Toriel plead with "Marco" to hang on and survive, Asriel tries to convince "Marco" to stop this plan, but "Marco" reminds him to stick to the plan, and not to forget collect the "other six".
...(Do you remember this?)
"The sick human had only one request."
"To see the flowers from their village."
"But there was nothing we could do."
"The next day..."
...
"The human died"
"ASRIEL, wracked with grief, absorbed the human´s SOUL."
"He transformed into a being with incredible power."
"With the human SOUL, ASRIEL crossed through the barrier."
...
I admit I've left out details, but because it's more fun to find out for yourself, if you're curious about the other details, I can tell you, but I'll just leave like this.
And yep, UNDERTALE has a secret super dark side.
Enjoy the game ; ) ; ) ; )
Man, I can't miss any episodes of your let's play, that's so fun to see you feel those songs and what happens
The True Lab is the most emote you ever been
About those videos: Marco is that kid who's soul Asriel consumed to get out of the underworld. It's name is similar to yours because it is you in fact, you became one with that kid's soul when you fell in those flowers in the beginning of the game.
Basically, you were possessed lol
Actually, I think Marco (aka Chara) is one person, and Frisk is another. One representing the genocide route and the other the pacifist route.
Sleep in one of the beds. It won't start a fight, but a cool thing happens.
Musician, audibly upset: "Where's the music!?"
29:08 yeah, those were Toriel and Asgore
Marco dying inside saying yes to liking anime. Gods, you made me chortle with that reaction.
Also, that Aries comment went for my throat, Marco. So rude. Jk, but still, called me out hard
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Oh my god. I just realised it must be Snowdrakes mother...
Bingo.
Alphys: Do you like anime.
*Marco's eye goes triggered on some hard twitching*
😂
Marco's reaction at the anime question (3:44) had me laughing so hard
I'm glad someone pays attention to the music, normally TH-camrs pay attention to the game more than the music. And your reaction is so, intense? I love your videos
P.S You kinda look like my gym coach lol
I enjoyed this comment
The reaper bird disturbs me so much. Not sure why, but the facts that heis head get devoured by butterflies like it they were a bunch of locusts just creeps me out
Please, next episode should be the last :') don't do this to us Marco
35:30 that's the kid from the comedian in the hotel... my heart is broken.
Oh boy here we go we learned about the past and now we're approaching the end of the pacifist route I would say the next part is probably the last one get ready I'm super excited
"I wish all the music changed" oh you sweet, sweet summer child... you weren't ready for what would soon come...
The lab music feels very much like music from Parasite Eve on the PSX.
Honestly I would love to see your reactions to stuff clearly (i assume?) cut from the recordings, like seeing your reaction to the scene in Undyne's house. Have you considered a VOD channel for your streams recordings for full playthroughs?
Not currently but I’m open to it
@@MarcoMeatball A lot of streamers have a second channel to throw up long-playthrough vids on, they don't even need to be edited at all! Way to possibly make a bit of extra money AND let peeps see all your reactions! I understand not ever doing so either, of course. I've loved this series, it's great, finishing up the last ep now :D
At 11:45 I just noticed that papyrus is talking so weird because Flowey is telling him to say that to direct you to the true lab so that everyone gathers at the Asgore fight so he can take the souls, he even starts the call with "Howdy"
Yeah this bit caught EVERYONE by surprise. Turns out Alphys did some HORRIFIC things to monsters in the past. It's kinda why she is the way she is really.
14:31 Pay close attention to these. These will explain A LOT of Alphys and why she acts the way she acts.
17:21 This..horrific mishmash of misshapen monstrosities is what happens when a monster is injected with determination. They aren't alive but they aren't dead either.
18:06 You...might want to rectify this.
19:31 You got up too fast...
20:51 That machine in the background. Does it's shape not seem...familiar?
21:41 They are. Now where else have you seen flowers like this?
25:30 Best amalgamation! Best boy/girl!
28:48 You can tell Tori is very excited about being a mom can't you?
29:39 I know this is confusing right now but you'l understand soon enough. And if not I'm sure someone will explain.
30:39 YES! You got it, that is indeed Asriel. As for who the person he's talking to is, well...Later.
Your next episode should be the last one. And if so...be ready for a tough time. Also make sure to re equip the locket you accidentally unequipped today.
You can buy chips to use as a healing item in the initial room of the true lab
You've yet to face the greatest being in the underground, but if you stay determined all *hopes and dreams* of monsters will become a reality.
And maybe they will save the world :D
Always saw True Lab as an extension of the Neutral Flowey Battle.
3:45 You sounded so frustrated when you were asked that.
I mean, fair enough, though akin to your reactions to music in games and being pleasantly surprised, I feel something similar would be in store for you with anime.
Though, obviously I would say that. I got a blasted Anime Profile Picture for pete sake.
I’m being silly
Things you didn't pick up on:
1. The chords from the lab theme's A section follow the melody of Alphys's theme, all minor chords moving in parallel along the melody with all notes being regularised to the same duration
2. The lab logs talk about extracting determination from the human souls and injecting it on the one hand in dead monsters, to make their souls durable, and on the other in a soulless vessel to absorb them and accumulate their power. It isn't explicitly said, but the chosen vessel was a golden flower, in honor of the king's love for them. Flowey is a golden flower, and he seems to lack empathy - a "soul". That would mean he was the vessel created by alphys. The king's son had died on a bed of golden flowers in the throne room of the palace, spreading his dust on them...
3. Alphys's prepared dating items were for a scaly person in armor who has a spear, hinting that she was preparing for the hope of going on a date with undyne
4. The amalgams were, indeed, amalgamations of different monsters you met in your journey. You were supposed to recognise which they were and pick appropriate ACTions that fit each monster they had taken parts from
Muffet’s boss battle : I love the music! What a fun time!
Flowey’s boss battle : dang, this fight is intense but it’s exciting!
Elevator losing power: 👀
😂
man the editing on this absolutely slaps
"I no can see, imma blind-... awwww!" ❤ awesome reaction. Awesome Awesome.