Shoutout for putting it into perspective. Been waiting on the vid now I know what I must practice thanks. I wasn’t in wow about the buffs till this vid. I ironically want a fan of using his best low but now I see I gotta add it in my arsenal
“I SAW THAT” I saw you containing your smilie while reviewing the changes bro. T8 pain has been unbearable from its launch, it good that Namco is listening to its community and responding, fixes or buff, it is still a good day for Raven players even though there are more fixes needed!!!! Appreciate this vid pal, “Hell Fire”
The 4,1 into BT 2,1f combo is actually not bad. It’s the second best route after ff3 into qcf1,2 combos damage wise and has quite good carry. Ff3, ff3, ff4, 4,1, 2,1f, cd1,2 T!, SZN 1f, cd3 is like 81 damage IIRC. 82 or 83 with SZN 1+2, ff2 as ender. I think it’s a good staple to use if someone feels uncomfortable with ff3 into qcf1,2
Honestly i expected something more considering he was one of the characters they singled out for the changes togheter with Kazuya and Paul. He still has a shitton of bugs and inconsistent whifs, still has forced stances on backflip and b1 and his bb2 parry is still slow as hell compared to Maven's. Sure the crouching df3 from qcf is nice but then again, i expected something more considering the goldmine of changes Paul and Kazuya got.
honestly, im NOT appreciative to these "buffs". 3~4 LOOKS like a low crush and wasnt in t8. 4~3 3 was POOR and now it's "fixed" to make it work correctly. aqua spider is just okay, bt f4- he FINALLY has a valid low poke with frames. bt f3 is good. but everyone else is great. i expected something more. im hoping he gets something more valuable down the line cause fixing buggs isnt a blessing to me. we got bug fixes last time too.
Odd request, but I'd love to see a POV of your hitbox execution when playing in matches. Really trying to get down both KBD and crouch dashes, but struggling hard.
The character that was made to be played in BT is the only one that doesn't have grab mix and safe high crush low, is that on purpose or did they forget? Anyway, Thanks for the video man, few people analyze this character, many TH-camrs don't know the character and don't even want to know, they just know how to complain about his teleport
Couldn't have said it better. Some TH-camrs act like his parry isn't situational and could very well get you killed if you time it wrong. Doesn't launch and we take damage for doing it. Also, give us the BT throw mix back and let that command throw be a homing one. MakeBTGreatAgain 😎
I felt it was lackluster at first with the exception d,df2. But after playing, it's better than I thought. I was hoping they gave him better frames on block. But what we got isn't bad. Hopefully the devs do watch your videos because if they do, they'd understand how to buff him properly 😂. Yes, what we received isn't bad though.
piano 3,4 is is still bugged. if you do airborne 3,4 delay 1 the 1 will whiff with a off axis to the right by almost 45 degrees. which if you try to react with a jab ws 4 or 2 you will attack the air in the same direction. i think the answer is axis. compare to t7 input
Now that the patch is live, although it's a bit early, i still don't think Raven's BT is as scary as Hitman, AOP, or Lily's BT. He needed a little more than just small buffs to BT f,4, and BT f,3. I think plus frames should've been added to BT d,4 and BT b,3 as well.
My only issue with the update is my optimal low patty combo no longer works 😓 (LP • B3+4 ~BT • BT~B3 • BT~B2,3 •FF3 • DB2,1, 3+4 ~SZ4) can't get the BT 2,3 anynore.
Won what . This still doesn't change the fact that he is too focused around heat. He's like the only person in the game without a solid 3 hit string . I love all of your videos all of your tech much love downloaded your ghost all of that but I'm super salty with the character the buttons the frame info it's shenanigans
These "Buffs" suck azz compared to what they could have done. Hell I would've settled the BB+2 parry being switched to B+2+4 with guaranteed hit instead of them being able to block. How the hell is a ninja slow and so easy to punish. At least give us ALL our old moves back. SMH. Now we have to wait a year for anything else? Bout sick of this game. Good breakdown tho.
It doesn't have that many low crush frames (It seems like it's only in the very middle of the startup, not at the very beginning nor at the start of the active frames).
@@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV Using a character well and them being top tier are two separate things. Specialists can make a character work - Rangchu is a great example even though bears were bottom tier in 7!
They also fixed db21 in combos, so my LP bnb LP>Ff3>db21, 41, bt21f~szn 1,2 works again Also ez ff3 damage route works on everyone now - ff3, ff3, ff4, 41, bt21f~szn 1,2 !T
@@imortalXsoul i mean yeah but paul is just straight up one of the most honest character in the game its a pretty fair buff for him, we need more paul in tournaments tbh.
as someone who uses 3,4 to whiff punish a lot of stuff, this change is good. they essentially reverted it back to the previous patch where it was easy to combo, becz that last patch was weird having to do a new combo. usually i like to jab into knee. but yea, its good again
Let’s gooo I was bushin and right before the patch I got knocked down to raijin ranked has been tough lately! Ima try to implement these new changes to my game. Just hit kishin again the goal is tekken king. #ravengang
Hey ho - great stuff... started using raven a bit, but didn't quite get into him... will try again with this patch. On a different note... get more sleep el duderino ^^
@@imortalXsoul 😭 I just tested it, you’re right, nothing connects after the db 2,1. I saw someone connect the db2 in another video and just assumed the rest of the combination would work.
Raven won the update? *Paul enters the chat.*
🤣🤣🤣
True paul op now
Steve in the corner smirks
King leaves the room laughing uncontrollably
16:00 lmao I was gushing over the d,D/F+3 changes the same way
😭😭😭
Bro ima do EVERYTHING I can to get better at his back turn
it's essential
Appreciate the detailed breakdown as always man!
thanks for watching bro!
Shoutout for putting it into perspective. Been waiting on the vid now I know what I must practice thanks. I wasn’t in wow about the buffs till this vid. I ironically want a fan of using his best low but now I see I gotta add it in my arsenal
the low is definitely a great addition
“I SAW THAT” I saw you containing your smilie while reviewing the changes bro. T8 pain has been unbearable from its launch, it good that Namco is listening to its community and responding, fixes or buff, it is still a good day for Raven players even though there are more fixes needed!!!!
Appreciate this vid pal, “Hell Fire”
The 4,1 into BT 2,1f combo is actually not bad. It’s the second best route after ff3 into qcf1,2 combos damage wise and has quite good carry.
Ff3, ff3, ff4, 4,1, 2,1f, cd1,2 T!, SZN 1f, cd3 is like 81 damage IIRC. 82 or 83 with SZN 1+2, ff2 as ender.
I think it’s a good staple to use if someone feels uncomfortable with ff3 into qcf1,2
Right exactly!! Super valuable to have an easier but equally effective combo route
I WILL MAKE IT TO BLUE RANKS 😩🤞🏼
so bt got a bit more annoying? sounds good to me 🍽️ buff to the moon
LMAO
Honestly i expected something more considering he was one of the characters they singled out for the changes togheter with Kazuya and Paul.
He still has a shitton of bugs and inconsistent whifs, still has forced stances on backflip and b1 and his bb2 parry is still slow as hell compared to Maven's.
Sure the crouching df3 from qcf is nice but then again, i expected something more considering the goldmine of changes Paul and Kazuya got.
facts lol
This!! Feels like Raven got the left overs while others got the buffet.
Bro what a video 👌🏼🔥🫰🏼 thanks so much
ty for watching :D
You are my Tekken KING!!! These buffs man! I'm about to make tekken god just spamming instant FCdf3 haha!
lmfaooooooo
his back turn 3 also guarantees his 14-frame heat engager (1+2) on counter hit
If u mean back turn b3 he already mentioned that, otherwise back turn 3 is still neutral regardless of CH
bt f3?
@greedy4k693 bt f3 yeah my bad and ok I see
honestly, im NOT appreciative to these "buffs". 3~4 LOOKS like a low crush and wasnt in t8. 4~3 3 was POOR and now it's "fixed" to make it work correctly. aqua spider is just okay, bt f4- he FINALLY has a valid low poke with frames. bt f3 is good. but everyone else is great. i expected something more. im hoping he gets something more valuable down the line cause fixing buggs isnt a blessing to me. we got bug fixes last time too.
i hear you bro defo, he needs bt d4 and a safer power mid from CD
Odd request, but I'd love to see a POV of your hitbox execution when playing in matches. Really trying to get down both KBD and crouch dashes, but struggling hard.
oh yes i can do 💪🏽
YES I was hoping for a vid covering the patch for Raven
Catching up on Raven 101 rn, keep up the amazing work dude 🎉
ty!
The character that was made to be played in BT is the only one that doesn't have grab mix and safe high crush low, is that on purpose or did they forget? Anyway, Thanks for the video man, few people analyze this character, many TH-camrs don't know the character and don't even want to know, they just know how to complain about his teleport
lmao yeah he should have bt throw mix back tbh
Couldn't have said it better. Some TH-camrs act like his parry isn't situational and could very well get you killed if you time it wrong. Doesn't launch and we take damage for doing it.
Also, give us the BT throw mix back and let that command throw be a homing one. MakeBTGreatAgain 😎
Being able to cancel out of soul zone. YES. They now allow Steve to cancel out of lion heart. WHAT ABOUT US!!??!?!
I felt it was lackluster at first with the exception d,df2. But after playing, it's better than I thought. I was hoping they gave him better frames on block. But what we got isn't bad. Hopefully the devs do watch your videos because if they do, they'd understand how to buff him properly 😂. Yes, what we received isn't bad though.
Czy jest ktoś z Polski kto mógłby bardziej klarownie przetłumaczyć ten filmik ?
piano 3,4 is is still bugged. if you do airborne 3,4 delay 1 the 1 will whiff with a off axis to the right by almost 45 degrees. which if you try to react with a jab ws 4 or 2 you will attack the air in the same direction. i think the answer is axis. compare to t7 input
I’m happy they addressed the d/b2 issue. I gotta lab the fc df3 because I always used to press and whiff my next move on hit afterwards
they addressed both of those issues
@@imortalXsoul yup I’m saying now I need to see what works best when I get a hit on diff characters at diff distances
Thanks for the video!
Now that the patch is live, although it's a bit early, i still don't think Raven's BT is as scary as Hitman, AOP, or Lily's BT. He needed a little more than just small buffs to BT f,4, and BT f,3. I think plus frames should've been added to BT d,4 and BT b,3 as well.
i agree
My only issue with the update is my optimal low patty combo no longer works 😓 (LP • B3+4 ~BT • BT~B3 • BT~B2,3 •FF3 • DB2,1, 3+4 ~SZ4) can't get the BT 2,3 anynore.
Won what . This still doesn't change the fact that he is too focused around heat. He's like the only person in the game without a solid 3 hit string . I love all of your videos all of your tech much love downloaded your ghost all of that but I'm super salty with the character the buttons the frame info it's shenanigans
lmaoooooo naw i feel you bruh 😭
Few days in: d/b2,2 is unstable. Extension will miss or sometimes creates side switches
@5:53 this explains a lot of situations where I thought I just were too late to cancel bt. Never knew it was an actual bug!
yup! bug 😵💫
Hey man I appreciate your Kimberly tutorial, you still doing it?
Commencing mission 🏃
Great video ❤ How does system changes effect raven , I'm curious
I liked 4,3 and BT and BT fr 4 changes but i didn't like DF 3 change at all :/
defensive ravens are buffed - heat burst and throws not tracking is helpful. F1+2 heat dash b3 is no longer possible
I noticed more ppl throwing me after fc df3, we really going gambling lol
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I would say, "This ain't half bad"
A decent direction imo. Thanks for the coverage.
If i have etokki omni and get sanjuk v7 could i just put it on or would there be any extra things cables etc to buy before i can switch
you need a crown conversion harness so that you can wire the micro switches to the JLF 5 pin
These "Buffs" suck azz compared to what they could have done. Hell I would've settled the BB+2 parry being switched to B+2+4 with guaranteed hit instead of them being able to block. How the hell is a ninja slow and so easy to punish. At least give us ALL our old moves back. SMH. Now we have to wait a year for anything else? Bout sick of this game. Good breakdown tho.
facts
Atleast make it so in heat his parry maybe can have a plus extension so even if its blocked its ur turn
As much as i love the changes, i would've loved if they gave us a stance transition from soulzone
facts
Is it just me or is snake dashing also a little easier this patch too, maybe causebof the new input?
nah you could always crouch dash with d df, so that might just be placebo lmaooo
I'm struggling hard stuck kishin with Raven please coach me (I keep getting robbed my clones are still whiffing after the patch 😭)
😭😭😭 i’m on metafy
@@imortalXsoul I hit you up 🙏🏼
Might be coming back to Raven now (been playing Bryan). Good take on this 💪
24:35 True!!!
!!!
I'm still getting hit with lows when doing his 3,4 cartwheel. They must have taken the airborne properties away again.
it doesn’t start straight away, might be that
It doesn't have that many low crush frames (It seems like it's only in the very middle of the startup, not at the very beginning nor at the start of the active frames).
That’s why he’s the G.O.A.T THE GOAT
You make the best guides.
Nobody used backturn to they made sure they do haha. Still wish he had backturn hopkick back.
He needs BT D4 back :D
nice video bro, we can always count on u for raven info🖤
thanks for watching!!
What your forgetting is when the 4~3 is blocked but the last 3 hits you still get a combo.💯👍👍
What was the combo before? You could do db2,1,1 and that still existed in v1.04...
@@imortalXsoul you can do it twice, then end with f2,3
yeah our power crush need improvement by far
agreed
Lets gooooooo I have been WAITING for this. I'm already abusing the HELL out of Aqua Spider.
Thanks dude, great vid! many good changes as highlighted.
No other patch cover compares to I Imortal! Thanks!
I don't like the aqua spider low change, raven is punished with i13 moves in ws
the frames didn’t change. He was always -14 after the low if you turned back around lol
@@imortalXsoul it could be safer if you spaced it, now there almost no spacing you can do to save you from -14
Are you using an fps unlocker?
No, just added motion blur
With the increased bt 2 range i think i found a most damaging pre tornado route from ws 3 2 ssr bt b4
yeah additional consistent routes
Thank God they fixed BT2. I always used it for combos with a wall for easy 90 damage and it was so inconsistent.
Do you think Raven went from low to mid-tier with this patch?
maybe low mid-tier now
You look like L from Death note
first time i’ve heard that 💀
Was waiting on this I knew it’d come 🤧
maaaan i was at work at the office today! couldnt get it filmed quickly...
@@imortalXsoul it’s out now that’s all that matters gang I appreciate this
Make BT f+1 an actual throw if they wont give him the normal BT throw mix. Keep up the good vids.
hmmmmmmmm id rather a throw with a break 👀
he was strong before imo. But still its preety rare pick
he was garbage before lol
@@imortalXsoul i seen people who played him really good before patch but i think it was them main from 7
@@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV Using a character well and them being top tier are two separate things. Specialists can make a character work - Rangchu is a great example even though bears were bottom tier in 7!
@@imortalXsoul i know kuma is my main from 7
bros eyes are beautiful
Sassy gorilla 🤣🤣🤣
They also fixed db21 in combos, so my LP bnb LP>Ff3>db21, 41, bt21f~szn 1,2 works again
Also ez ff3 damage route works on everyone now - ff3, ff3, ff4, 41, bt21f~szn 1,2 !T
thats true
Thankyou so much for this ❤❤❤
Yeaaaa! The break down I was waiting for!
luv ya bruv and thanks for the vid
25:22 its a conspiracy
Wow been waiting gor this drop 😎
bryan won imo
bryan?? PAUL 👀
@@imortalXsoul i mean yeah but paul is just straight up one of the most honest character in the game its a pretty fair buff for him, we need more paul in tournaments tbh.
Thank you very much, great video as always
Thanks for this explanation. Haven't had a chance to play yet but I'm excited to try out everything soon.
Great video
ty!
good patch!
agreed overall!
Respect brother ❤
Man im bout to learn law or leo
why?
Both of those characters got more nerfs than they did buffs...
@@imortalXsoul idk im just working so hard with raven ima see how these changes go. I guess i just wanna play mindless like everyone else lol
@@TheFightingGentleman youre right.. law is still od though tbh
Bro man thank you
as someone who uses 3,4 to whiff punish a lot of stuff, this change is good. they essentially reverted it back to the previous patch where it was easy to combo, becz that last patch was weird having to do a new combo. usually i like to jab into knee. but yea, its good again
Yes sir ! Good vid G 💪🏾
thank you sir!
Nice
:D
Let’s gooo I was bushin and right before the patch I got knocked down to raijin ranked has been tough lately! Ima try to implement these new changes to my game. Just hit kishin again the goal is tekken king. #ravengang
niiiice that tekken king is coming 👀
Raven main stuck in ranger, am i cooked?😭🙏🏾
You got this bro, just keep playing.
@@nocapillary thanks bro, I only have like 10ish hours and was tempted to switch to king but imma thug out my ninja boi till the end
nope, you will get better!
@@XTRA_THICCKing's command grabs no longer track...you're better off steering the course you are on. We eating good now, fam
@@imortalXsoul will be heavily relying on ur raven guides, already made killer bee🔥
Hey ho - great stuff... started using raven a bit, but didn't quite get into him... will try again with this patch. On a different note... get more sleep el duderino ^^
😂😂😂 i work full time and play tekken. Sleep is not an option 😵💫
@@imortalXsoul hahaha i admit that's hard to balance ^^
Raven definitely got some good buffs that was needed lol that back turned f+3 is golden and that new/old low
So one thing I noticed for 4~3,3 .
Now if they block the first part and only get hit by the 3. You can combo off of that with db 2!
It's too off axis to launch. Nothing combos after db2 or db21. What's the combo lol
@@imortalXsoul 😭 I just tested it, you’re right, nothing connects after the db 2,1.
I saw someone connect the db2 in another video and just assumed the rest of the combination would work.
U can do it twice and finish the string its like 50 damage
@@finnz7786 oh! Thanks
thanks man
nps
👍
Hey my man, do you have a plan to a new Victor guide soon? cause there are so many new mixup potential coming form victor in this patch
nah, i dropped the character LMAO
I might be wrong but I think if you hold back after 2,4 then you won't go into crouch dash.
correct, but you can’t cancel crouch dash with up like you could in T7 after stuff that transitioned you into it
Best elaboration on the internet 👏.. thank you.
ty!
Let’s Phukin go!
LFGGGGG
The man of the hour has arrived 🥷🏾🔥!! Love your breakdown of the buffs Soul‼️
aaayyyyoooooo! thanks bro
@@imortalXsoul Of course 🥷🏾💪🏾!!