That was a very polite way to say to the interviewer "no buddy, you're part of the problem, stop doing exactly what you're doing". lol. This is why I love JP, the interviewer gave him a setup to grab his self righteous brownie points and claim victory and JP says no, and instead delivers a much needed message to people with exactly that mindset. The world definitely needs less people who want to win right now
I cringe every time I see a video entitled ('so and so) destroys or annihilates, (whoever), especially if it's had thousands of views, and quickly pass on. It makes me wonder what kind of ghouls are we, still? Intelligent rational beings, like Jordon Peterson, argue/debate, not to win, but to establish truth.
04:00 "A soft/gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger." ~ Prov. 15:1 What Jordan Peterson is basically saying is that by using minimal force and speaking to your "adversary" in a calm, non confrontational manner then you'll win the war and not the battle. In turn, you don't ever need to win another battle because you've already won the war which is far more significant in comparison. I'm forever grateful for Dr. Peterson and every word of wisdom that he has so generously shared with all of those who have been blessed to have listened to them and who are more than eager and willing to learn, grow, and utilize these invaluable life lessons that he's been compassionate enough to educate and enlighten us with. Be Blessed ~ Godspeed !!! #bearainbowinsomebodyscloud
@Bright Future There's nothing wrong with defending yourself if someone resorts to physical violence. But using minimal force will help to avoid a situation like that altogether. This quote from Theodore Roosevelt comes to mind: "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
This still might be the wrong way of phrasing this, because it's not good to win the "war" either, you don't want to win, you want to make peace, so that real diplomacy can take place. Winning the war as a metaphor for achieving ones goals through calm diplomacy, at least for me, is a an un-intuitive metaphor
"Vigorous let us be in attaining our ends, but mild in our methods on attainment." It's the first principle of power you should learn. It's the last you'll master. AND it shows something about the person. If they DON'T grasp this rule, they're NEW to power, OUT of practice, or SPIRALING. None are very good
I love to watch JP stay so wise, articulate and generous in his message even when it is NOT being received. He gives a clinic on powerful communication when the message makes the listeners uncomfortable because they made assumptions about your message or they simply misunderstood it. Absolutely priceless!!
If you stand back, be patient and kind, people will screw them selves over on their own. I have learned this myself through my own life. Some people thrive on conflict and sometimes you can never come to agreement with those people. But if you are kind and truthful some people will disagree with themselves right in front of you.
I have experienced this a lot in my life. I’m 44 and only just learning to not take responsibility for other people’s bad behaviours. It is tough. The way I do it is be reasonable and kind, because that is what I am. But if they don’t respond with the same then I have to force myself to let it go in the comforting knowledge that I at least did my best and was true to the values I hold dear about myself. Yes it hurts and it’s difficult and I feel a lot of anger at times. But I stop, remind myself that I’ve done my best and then move on. You WILL be stronger for it, it just won’t always feel that way.
Peace is truly an order to keep things arrange it is a succomb to be reunited and benevolence too.....God bless Professor Jordan Peterson and more power
Very hard in practice, especially when provoked to the extreme and undeniably wronged, and especially when you are “legitimately” right and you respond in a fury of speaking the truth very harshly and forcefully, crushing the other party. Your character has to be very strong to do that, and to even in the face of the worse offenses to speak the truth with love and self control. It really shows the self mastery and the power of character Christ had to endure what He did and constantly maintain the right attitude and respond to all things correctly.
This talk changed my marriage, vastly for the better. I heard exactly what I needed, at exactly the right moment for it to matter. Thank you, from both my wife and I.
He's Charlie Kirk, hes one of the founders of that "Turning Point USA" thing made up of young Conservatives who like picking battles with "leftists" and do those propaganda posters like "regardless of what liberals tell you..." that have become memes
The difference in their attitudes is how to correctly wield your intelligence through wisdom and not logic. Because wisdom is much more valuable than logic in the end.
"how articulate can you be?" Is what comes through my mind when I laugh with the audience... When JP was asked "do your remember when you became a serious person?" "Yes." He answered, in the most confident way. It's intriguing and refreshing, laugh worthy.
I bet you're a lot of fun at parties...Instead of hoping people don't laugh, why don't you hope for greater understanding.......Nazi's and religious nut jobs don't like laughter.
Love is as strong as death. As a woman who had 9 kids if love is a novelty? My mom could talk till she was in her last year and the acceptable demise. She lost interest in food too. At no time was she terrified, and some nursing staff showed a lot of affection. She is even more alive! Absent from the body, present with the Lord!
Kathy didnt know what a multi variant analysis is. When that happens the person turns to attack. And eventually an attack can turn violent. What I just said is education decreases violence.
Peterson is truly humble. The host seems like he’d be somewhat of a narcissist to me. Overly concerned with winning and being right. That kind of person is more characterized by their insecurities than their strengths. You can tell Peterson is strong and knows he is because of his self-control.
Is this the magical super Nazi I’ve been told so much about? Bruh most critics of JP would stfu within ten minutes if they took the time to skim through one of his online lectures (which are free).
Remember the sample in the first song of "8 Diagrams" by Wu-Tang? "Keep your temper... Never lose control of yourself... Keep... Control. Be patient... If you learn to do these things, you can master anything." th-cam.com/video/4lxE2nAjojw/w-d-xo.html
The Peace Meditation Die Friedensmeditation. Old Lyran written as: Salome gam nan ben Urda - gan njber asala Hesporona! pronounced as: Saalome gam naan ben uurda gan njjber asaala hesporoona! English: Peace be on the Earth, and among all created creations! Deutsch: Friede sei auf der Erde, und unter allen Geschöpfen!
Sadly .... I'm just in the middle of that kind of argument. There is this 17 years old girl that started to work at the local gym around the same time as I did and she is just ....... soo way up her own ass .... it's really hard to work with her and even have little conversations. Anyway, a little fight broke out between us just a day ago and it broke out because she didn't want to give me a simple information I needed for work, because she thinks I'm way up my ass because I'm older than her (21). Anyway, just before the argument would got out of hand I said "look, I didn't want to piss you off for god knows what reason... but trust me, you don't want this to go out of hand ... because we need to work together the next 3 years and it's going to be hell if we go down that path, so let's just try a new start, hallo I'm Dominik, who are you?". Guess what her choice was..... exactly, walk down the highway to hell. I literally said " here's my hand, why don't just take it for the sake of peace?" and her answer was literally "no thanks". I guess some people just want to see the world burn to the ground until they burn themselfs for the first time.
@@vincentlaw1415 What abraham says may make some sense if you think about it. Tones such as "but trust me, you don't want this to go out of hand" definitely carries a condescending attitude, and it could sound very provocative. I don't know the full story, but what I would do first is to hear her out. Why is she mad? Just because she is an awful person? I highly doubt it. From what you posted, you may actually know what you have said that might have triggered her. Think about what you said. If you actually said something mean, apologizing would help greatly. If you didn't say something mean, then hear out why she is angry. Remember, just like what JBP said, don't put too much of your emotion if somebody angers you. Don't let that "little fight" to break out. When you are trying to make up with anyone, you don't want to "lecture" the other person. This one is purely from my experience (nobody likes being lectured in the middle of argument). I hope things go well at your new work place soon. Peace out bro.
Arrogance about being smarter than someone else rarely serves you. I think he showed wisdom in knowing this. Because he at various points has been wrong.
I don’t like how the interviewer smiled at every shred of the mention of victory, obliteration and destruction. It seems as though he could be narcissistic and is deep into his idea that an argument is the destruction of one party and victory for the other.
The guy with the mic looks bored and seems to be only interested in Dr. Jordan to agree with him about "obliterating." When JP didn't agree with him, he looks bored af.
Much wisdom here. One quibble: Donald Trump is not Gerald Ford, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez isn't Jimmy Carter. We may be voting the same way we were in previous years, but the alternatives on both sides are far more extreme.
I think about the 30's when US had a lot of radicals saying blah, blah blah and a big ole baddie came up and swiped with a gargantuan hand. It'll be the same today.
Getting tired of the growing number of interviewers who feel the need to people please Jordan Peterson ; it was more fun when he was the new kid on the block .
Jide1000 Take this with a grain of salt, because I don’t know you. I’m only writing on the chance this feedback might be useful to you. When I read your comment, I had the thought ‘That sounds like the words of someone in love with being a revolutionary. Not someone in love with the revolution/cause.’ Hope this is helpful, somewhere, to someone. Have a good one, man.
@@crisshaunnelson-jackson9534 My dude ,that perfectly summarizes my opinion of this entire political political diatribe.People don't care about the cause ,they just want to partake in fighting the bad guys.I see it now among many right-wingers arguably just as much as i do among the more rabid left-wingers.And i'm confident in saying this because i was there myself, and i definitely understand the mentality.To an extent i might still have that kind of mindset.
Crisshaun Nelson-Jackson thanks dude ; I was just being a bit facetious there ; Its actually the opposite ; I take Peterson’s ideas very seriously and I’m a firm admirer of the man ; I don’t think I’ve seen such a potent cultural force for the good in a very long while ; I won’t say he is perfect of course ; I believe sometimes identity politics is pushed upon you by history itself ; no one can argue now for instance that Brown v Board of Education wasn’t necessary to desegregate US schools for the necessary benefit of one group ( blacks ) in 1950s America for example . On the whole though this wonderful fatherly guy is my man any day , any time . One love .
I definitely am not a fan of these obliteration and other politically polarizing remarks either and much prefer the psychological and spiritual aspects of these underlying problems. And then, with that understanding, to plan and action out as a practical manifestation in an improved, peacefully negotiated and stable manner, sustainable across time.
Why should that be a problem if you really believe that gender shouldn't matter when it comes to job performance and/or that gender is a social construct? Perhaps the moderator identifies as a successful 38-yr. old female entrepreneur. Don't be so sexist.
I've watched his talks carefully, having an issue with that, as well. Near as I can tell, his view is that one should live as if those stories are "true" (they teach useful precepts) whether you believe them literally or not. In fact, he does speak out against hidebound dogmatism on occasion. So, I think he uses the bible as you might make a movie or music reference; as a kind of shorthand.
That was a very polite way to say to the interviewer "no buddy, you're part of the problem, stop doing exactly what you're doing". lol. This is why I love JP, the interviewer gave him a setup to grab his self righteous brownie points and claim victory and JP says no, and instead delivers a much needed message to people with exactly that mindset. The world definitely needs less people who want to win right now
Jordan Peterson is brilliant, eloquent, and so full of wisdom.
''Negotiate your way to a sustainable peace''.
I wish I seen this yesterday. But it helped me fix today. Thank you Jordan
Jordan Peterson is one of the biggest blessings in my life. I love him so much. Because of Jordan I can face the dragon and get the damn gold. ❤❤❤
I cringe every time I see a video entitled ('so and so) destroys or annihilates, (whoever), especially if it's had thousands of views, and quickly pass on. It makes me wonder what kind of ghouls are we, still?
Intelligent rational beings, like Jordon Peterson, argue/debate, not to win, but to establish truth.
Lili Somers ghouls that want clicks. Lol
@Lili Somers oh my yes gets me going too. Especially when they all-caps the DESTROYS and ANNIHILATES like a bad tabloid newspaper
People are generally more interested in controversies
OBAMA DESTROYS REAGAN IN THIS VIRAL VIDEO
You're so right. More than that, saying so and so destroys or annihilates whatever is POSTMODERNIST!
04:00 "A soft/gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger." ~ Prov. 15:1
What Jordan Peterson is basically saying is that by using minimal force and speaking to your "adversary" in a calm, non confrontational manner then you'll win the war and not the battle. In turn, you don't ever need to win another battle because you've already won the war which is far more significant in comparison. I'm forever grateful for Dr. Peterson and every word of wisdom that he has so generously shared with all of those who have been blessed to have listened to them and who are more than eager and willing to learn, grow, and utilize these invaluable life lessons that he's been compassionate enough to educate and enlighten us with. Be Blessed ~ Godspeed !!!
#bearainbowinsomebodyscloud
@Bright Future There's nothing wrong with defending yourself if someone resorts to physical violence. But using minimal force will help to avoid a situation like that altogether. This quote from Theodore Roosevelt comes to mind: "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
This still might be the wrong way of phrasing this, because it's not good to win the "war" either, you don't want to win, you want to make peace, so that real diplomacy can take place. Winning the war as a metaphor for achieving ones goals through calm diplomacy, at least for me, is a an un-intuitive metaphor
"Vigorous let us be in attaining our ends, but mild in our methods on attainment."
It's the first principle of power you should learn. It's the last you'll master. AND it shows something about the person. If they DON'T grasp this rule, they're NEW to power, OUT of practice, or SPIRALING. None are very good
I've seen everything Jordan Peterson...how did I miss this?
Truth will always have the best answer. Jordan Peterson speaks truth with intelligence and much wisdom.
I love to watch JP stay so wise, articulate and generous in his message even when it is NOT being received. He gives a clinic on powerful communication when the message makes the listeners uncomfortable because they made assumptions about your message or they simply misunderstood it. Absolutely priceless!!
If you stand back, be patient and kind, people will screw them selves over on their own. I have learned this myself through my own life. Some people thrive on conflict and sometimes you can never come to agreement with those people. But if you are kind and truthful some people will disagree with themselves right in front of you.
Blimey! How very true are those words. Wisdom.
I have experienced this a lot in my life. I’m 44 and only just learning to not take responsibility for other people’s bad behaviours. It is tough. The way I do it is be reasonable and kind, because that is what I am. But if they don’t respond with the same then I have to force myself to let it go in the comforting knowledge that I at least did my best and was true to the values I hold dear about myself. Yes it hurts and it’s difficult and I feel a lot of anger at times. But I stop, remind myself that I’ve done my best and then move on. You WILL be stronger for it, it just won’t always feel that way.
The interviewer is trying to twist Peterson's words. Peterson is trying to be balanced - to look for a way to reconcile.
Wow ... tons of wisdom here
God bless you, JP!
Peace is truly an order to keep things arrange it is a succomb to be reunited and benevolence too.....God bless Professor Jordan Peterson and more power
Very hard in practice, especially when provoked to the extreme and undeniably wronged, and especially when you are “legitimately” right and you respond in a fury of speaking the truth very harshly and forcefully, crushing the other party. Your character has to be very strong to do that, and to even in the face of the worse offenses to speak the truth with love and self control. It really shows the self mastery and the power of character Christ had to endure what He did and constantly maintain the right attitude and respond to all things correctly.
Great Clip. I usually don't like videos but this one is perfect in a sense of purpose of the content.
Dr Peterson is not a slave to the left right paradigm!
“Negotiate your way to a sustainable peace”
"I don't think I obliterated her because obliteration requires force."
This talk changed my marriage, vastly for the better. I heard exactly what I needed, at exactly the right moment for it to matter. Thank you, from both my wife and I.
The guy with the mic has no clue.
doesnt really understand what jp stands for i dont think
He's Charlie Kirk, hes one of the founders of that "Turning Point USA" thing made up of young Conservatives who like picking battles with "leftists" and do those propaganda posters like "regardless of what liberals tell you..." that have become memes
Matt R totally .
The alt right figuring out, just like the far left, that JP is on neither of their sides
@@GooglyEyedJoe I knew he looked familiar. He and Candace Owens are ideological hucksters
This is really great advice. Peace
Not the answer that guy wanted hahah.
I love this guy.
Literally using minimum necessary force to teach Charlie Kirk to use minimum necessary force. Great video.
I wish my dad was like him
Excellent!!
Very practical advice!!
Well said!
Minimizing his Force to make her step forward with her weakness was very taoist.
brilliant
Dr. JP. When you talked about memes automatically made according to your temper, you hit a point
The difference in their attitudes is how to correctly wield your intelligence through wisdom and not logic. Because wisdom is much more valuable than logic in the end.
Terrible host. JP delivers nonetheless.
Terrible! He's definitely all about victory instead of peace.
In other words water finds the least path of resistance.
Alan Watts is that you?
Thankfully JP isn't the type to fall into that hack rhetoric the host tried to put out there
I actually felt SORRY for Kathy Newman! She’ll never live it down.
she should clean her room
Wish the audience would stop laughing, it just shows they don't yet understand what JP is trying to tell them.
"how articulate can you be?" Is what comes through my mind when I laugh with the audience...
When JP was asked "do your remember when you became a serious person?" "Yes." He answered, in the most confident way. It's intriguing and refreshing, laugh worthy.
I bet you're a lot of fun at parties...Instead of hoping people don't laugh, why don't you hope for greater understanding.......Nazi's and religious nut jobs don't like laughter.
7Earthsky that’s a little harsh. Peterson’s message was about using the least amount of force necessary and aiming for peace after all.
Love is as strong as death. As a woman who had 9 kids if love is a novelty? My mom could talk till she was in her last year and the acceptable demise. She lost interest in food too. At no time was she terrified, and some nursing staff showed a lot of affection. She is even more alive! Absent from the body, present with the Lord!
Kathy didnt know what a multi variant analysis is. When that happens the person turns to attack. And eventually an attack can turn violent. What I just said is education decreases violence.
Peterson is truly humble. The host seems like he’d be somewhat of a narcissist to me. Overly concerned with winning and being right. That kind of person is more characterized by their insecurities than their strengths. You can tell Peterson is strong and knows he is because of his self-control.
Peterson reminds me of Friedman. They both could cut through ones argument with a few words of wisdom.
Correction: If you have any sense, you seek peace AND victory!
peace is lie. throgh passion i gain strengh, through strengh i gain victory, through victory, my chains are broken!
Is this the magical super Nazi I’ve been told so much about? Bruh most critics of JP would stfu within ten minutes if they took the time to skim through one of his online lectures (which are free).
It is amazing, very similar concept with Matthew 26: 52-56 :
I seek to apologize for wasting someone’s time and paying them for me doing it.
Too late Professor Petersen. You've created a monster.
And we are water.mostly
I wish this had half the views that those videos with 'hostile' clickbait-y titles have
Depends who you're making Peace with.
Neville Chamberlain springs to mind.
Could ya blur out the annoyed host? :)
Remember the sample in the first song of "8 Diagrams" by Wu-Tang? "Keep your temper... Never lose control of yourself... Keep... Control. Be patient... If you learn to do these things, you can master anything." th-cam.com/video/4lxE2nAjojw/w-d-xo.html
The Peace Meditation Die Friedensmeditation. Old Lyran written as: Salome gam nan ben Urda - gan njber asala Hesporona! pronounced as: Saalome gam naan ben uurda gan njjber asaala hesporoona! English: Peace be on the Earth, and among all created creations! Deutsch: Friede sei auf der Erde, und unter allen Geschöpfen!
Hopefully this was a turning point for that host.
Sadly .... I'm just in the middle of that kind of argument. There is this 17 years old girl that started to work at the local gym around the same time as I did and she is just ....... soo way up her own ass .... it's really hard to work with her and even have little conversations. Anyway, a little fight broke out between us just a day ago and it broke out because she didn't want to give me a simple information I needed for work, because she thinks I'm way up my ass because I'm older than her (21). Anyway, just before the argument would got out of hand I said "look, I didn't want to piss you off for god knows what reason... but trust me, you don't want this to go out of hand ... because we need to work together the next 3 years and it's going to be hell if we go down that path, so let's just try a new start, hallo I'm Dominik, who are you?". Guess what her choice was..... exactly, walk down the highway to hell. I literally said " here's my hand, why don't just take it for the sake of peace?" and her answer was literally "no thanks". I guess some people just want to see the world burn to the ground until they burn themselfs for the first time.
It's true but at least you did the right thing you can only be responsible for your own actions.
@@gracie30ish thank you for those kind words
At work, I try to keep everyone smiling. It's a very simple goal, but the means can involve a lot of work! :o)
@@abrahamalexander4084 Of course, random shit post.
@@vincentlaw1415 What abraham says may make some sense if you think about it.
Tones such as "but trust me, you don't want this to go out of hand" definitely carries a condescending attitude, and it could sound very provocative.
I don't know the full story, but what I would do first is to hear her out. Why is she mad? Just because she is an awful person? I highly doubt it.
From what you posted, you may actually know what you have said that might have triggered her.
Think about what you said. If you actually said something mean, apologizing would help greatly. If you didn't say something mean, then hear out why she is angry.
Remember, just like what JBP said, don't put too much of your emotion if somebody angers you.
Don't let that "little fight" to break out.
When you are trying to make up with anyone, you don't want to "lecture" the other person. This one is purely from my experience (nobody likes being lectured in the middle of argument).
I hope things go well at your new work place soon. Peace out bro.
Arrogance about being smarter than someone else rarely serves you. I think he showed wisdom in knowing this. Because he at various points has been wrong.
I don’t like how the interviewer smiled at every shred of the mention of victory, obliteration and destruction. It seems as though he could be narcissistic and is deep into his idea that an argument is the destruction of one party and victory for the other.
❤JP
The guy with the mic looks bored and seems to be only interested in Dr. Jordan to agree with him about "obliterating." When JP didn't agree with him, he looks bored af.
“Give em hell” - Jordan Peterson
Much wisdom here. One quibble: Donald Trump is not Gerald Ford, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez isn't Jimmy Carter. We may be voting the same way we were in previous years, but the alternatives on both sides are far more extreme.
What is up with that camera angle 😳🤨 dafuq 2:50
The host obliterated his own ego!
I think about the 30's when US had a lot of radicals saying blah, blah blah and a big ole baddie came up and swiped with a gargantuan hand. It'll be the same today.
Getting tired of the growing number of interviewers who feel the need to people please Jordan Peterson ; it was more fun when he was the new kid on the block .
Jide1000 Take this with a grain of salt, because I don’t know you.
I’m only writing on the chance this feedback might be useful to you.
When I read your comment, I had the thought
‘That sounds like the words of someone in love with being a revolutionary. Not someone in love with the revolution/cause.’
Hope this is helpful, somewhere, to someone.
Have a good one, man.
@@crisshaunnelson-jackson9534
My dude ,that perfectly summarizes my opinion of this entire political political diatribe.People don't care about the cause ,they just want to partake in fighting the bad guys.I see it now among many right-wingers arguably just as much as i do among the more rabid left-wingers.And i'm confident in saying this because i was there myself, and i definitely understand the mentality.To an extent i might still have that kind of mindset.
Don't worry, he's still interviewing people who try to take him down.
Crisshaun Nelson-Jackson thanks dude ; I was just being a bit facetious there ; Its actually the opposite ; I take Peterson’s ideas very seriously and I’m a firm admirer of the man ; I don’t think I’ve seen such a potent cultural force for the good in a very long while ; I won’t say he is perfect of course ; I believe sometimes identity politics is pushed upon you by history itself ; no one can argue now for instance that Brown v Board of Education wasn’t necessary to desegregate US schools for the necessary benefit of one group ( blacks ) in 1950s America for example . On the whole though this wonderful fatherly guy is my man any day , any time . One love .
I definitely am not a fan of these obliteration and other politically polarizing remarks either and much prefer the psychological and spiritual aspects of these underlying problems. And then, with that understanding, to plan and action out as a practical manifestation in an improved, peacefully negotiated and stable manner, sustainable across time.
We dont want to hear anyone except Peterson, no reason for anyone else to talk.
...the host sitting there completely missing the point.
Then 90% of people have no sense.
Next time get an intelligent person to interview Dr Peterson please. Interviewer is embarrassingly out of his league
Sounds like Mandela.
Why is a guy the facilitator of a discussion at a young women's LEADERSHIP summit in Texas??
Why should that be a problem if you really believe that gender shouldn't matter when it comes to job performance and/or that gender is a social construct? Perhaps the moderator identifies as a successful 38-yr. old female entrepreneur. Don't be so sexist.
Just body language wise, Jordan Peterson doesn't look like he's healthy or well.
And he's uncomfortable? RE his body language, my reading of it was that he didn't feel comfortable with the "entertainer-style' host.
"-partner, or husband or wife..." Did he just NOT assume the genders of a relationship??
A weakness of his: biblism
I've watched his talks carefully, having an issue with that, as well. Near as I can tell, his view is that one should live as if those stories are "true" (they teach useful precepts) whether you believe them literally or not. In fact, he does speak out against hidebound dogmatism on occasion. So, I think he uses the bible as you might make a movie or music reference; as a kind of shorthand.
Is he the benzodiazepine addict? Oh how the mighty have fallen lol
He took medications when dealing with his wife's cancer. He since stopped and is much better now than when he stopped taking them