@@damonbackmann1053 seems like we get all the answers to what reddington was doing now. I guess they´ll explain everything now and next season will be kinda the final battle against whoever they´re up to
0:37 "Katarina Rostova was never framed, or killed." So either the woman he killed in the park wasn't Katarina, or they faked it. I always thought it was off that they switched actors. I think 'mom' was an imposter. Otherwise why hate Red so much and try to kill him? It's a stretch to think that whole arc was part of their 'plan.'
For Gene. Katarina cooperating with Red since childhood. End of 6season and start 7.season was a briliant Reddinkton's and Katarína's plan revenge to Dom and Ilja Kozlov which betrayed her in the Belgrade! Etc... Elyzabeth heard message by Katarina on her phone. At the end of the conversatoin between Katarina and Reddinkton we heard a two shots. But what we didn't see was that in the phone was another message by Katarina which she send her after "death" from the car. After this time Elyzabeth cooperating with Red! Poor her team (Skip and other's). They must died and Elizabeth knew about this. All most 8 season is Reddinkton's and Elyzabet's theatre for FBI.
Whats funny? That FBI has been no idea about this, but Cooper did help Reddinkton keep to save Elizabeth! (Elizabeth was along in the box. No agent's to protect her!). Aram put a malwere on the Resler'phone (of my mine). Why? Besause croissant. (Elyzabeth asked him to do it.). And Resler did find Jennifer! (Elizabeth asked him do it.) Because Jennifer is probably alive. Etc...
I can speculate one thing.. she is still holding that tracker through which Townsend is tracking them. I think he will show up in the so called epicenter courtesy LIZ mam.
As unfortunate this sounds, Elizabeth is equally important on this show. The Blacklist is about her and Reddington. Believe me, I want Elizabeth gone because she does get on my nerves as well, but that will not happen. One of the things I don't appreciate about this show is how it gets rid of a lot of kick ass women like Meera Malak, Samar Navabi and Kate Kaplan. Hopefully, Agent Park stays and we see more of her and Reddington taking on missions in the future.
@@faustman1000 and that's just the first building... I bet he's got way cooler ones ... going to be a gas ... "part of a machine" "facilities all over the world"
She seems alive, tho I dont understand why when Raymond saw the other woman he addressed her as Katarina. Maybe it is her and somehow she forget her memories?
One of my theories is that Katrina Restova not only had someone else become Reddington after the original’s death but also had a woman take her place as well. It’s been established that memories can be repressed and new ones can be implanted. Even the spin-off show established a conspiracy of people being replaced with double-agents to look like them to infiltrate governments or corporations. So, I ask, what if Katrina had someone take her place, believing to be the real Katrina, while she went into hiding?
I'm thinking the other woman is not Katarina but posed as Kat to get info on Red from Keen (or something) and that the real Katarina is the original actress playing young Katarina aged to the current year. Mr. Kaplan probably survived her fall into the river as well.
I was really hoping it was Townsend that got Liz when they broke into the black site since they keep thinking they could do better every time red warned them she wouldn't be safe with them
I wonder if this 'Machine' has any ties to the Machine in Person of Interest. I'd fall on my ass if Harold Finch is in there and Reddington is the new primary asset :D
Liz is Raymond Reddington, whose brain was implanted in the adult body of the child, who was Liz until the child became comatose due to the trauma of the fire. Given the brain of the child was useless for the rest of the female body's life, the brain of Raymond Reddington was saved from death after being shot and implanted in the growing female body. A dissociate personality disorder was deliberately instilled (like the 2nd season episode: "Lord Baltimore") wherein Raymond is slumbering and the dominant personality is a false personality that believes she is Elizabeth Keen. Upon learning the truth on the 16th of June, Raymond Reddington in the body of their daughter will re-emerge and take over operations with Katarina Rosotova. The man we call Reddington is in fact Raymond's brother, James (named after the actor), who oversaw all things since before the pilot episode. In a nutshell, Elizabeth Keen does not actually exist, but is an invented persona.
They need to do more than this! I get why RR saved Liz again but why go through so many lies and constantly back and forth about being her father only to now give her the keys to the kingdom!? And we all know that Townsend is asymmetrical just like RR so he will be on his way to Latvia and stop THE TRUTH being released once again because Liz has that tracker! I was hyped when he RR said about the secrets and the answers but it's like they're playing jenga and each time they pull a piece of the story they replace it with a weaker "piece" and eventually this show will just collapse!... "I need the fulcrum it will save my life" sounding like real RR, now he's at a place where he basically has a turbo charged version of the fulcrum? Sorry but I just get the feeling regardless of what we find out there will be a plot hole and it will leave with no armour! This show hasn't been as exciting as it once was since season 1-3 and then end of season 6!... Which brings me to this, if KR isn't dead then why would RR say she was and why would dembe say "did you mean to kill KR in front of Liz?" So many plot holes and I'm shocked to learn there's gonna be a season 9? 😑😂😂😂😂
For the hype. That's it. You writing more than 20 lines just speculating hahah. I think it's true there are plot holes but you have to embrace this revelation and enjoy it :). We are bound to see a fucking 10/10 episode next week!!
I don't see Townsend showing up. The next two episodes will be backstory pushing to the present. He may make an appearance in the last few seconds of S8E22, but just enough to hang everyone over until S9. Just my take based on how things have gone over the season and a recent interview I heard with Jon Bokenkamp.
So liz mom is still alive. Im Waiting to see liz begging for forgiveness after trying to kill red. Knowing what red is trying to do is to protect her. A fsthers love. 😣
That was really her mom, what Red meant is when everyone thought she had disappeared and everyone thought she was dead until Liz and Don started snooping around and asking questions
When Red said she wasn’t “Frame and and murder” that was the time period when she was died nothing but a ghost story to the world until her daughter started to ask questions about her
@@zhivadascott4235 the only problem I have with that now is if she just stayed away let red do his thing she could have stayed hidden red ends up making liz stop and everything ends but with last season it sounded like she had to prove her innocence and that liz could do that here but now all of this conflicts with what we've been told
Tom Keen returning won't happen, unless Ryan Eggold has the time to at least appear in one episode. Eggold has his own show (thanks to the success of The Blacklist). And the way I see it...the show is probably going to make Liz and Ressler a couple.
Guys I need help with the plot ... they tested Red's blood and realised that he's Liz's father and if Red didn't alter the test, then who did? Or did they test it against old /Real Reddington from 30 years ago
@@giberish9 It is def renewed months ago..here are some links regarding it from earlier this year www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/blacklist-renewed-season-9-nbc-4122073/ www.thewrap.com/the-blacklist-renewed-season-9-nbc/ www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a36000895/the-blacklist-season-9-release-date/ www.looper.com/399187/the-blacklist-season-9-release-date-cast-plot/
Nah, he didn’t mean the people who were on the Blacklist, but rather something else that helps make the Blacklist possible, like a supercomputer or a secret organization that hunts down potential Blacklisters.
Who's ready to watch Liz beg for Red's forgiveness?
I am.
Yep
She won't , another reason to hate her. The arrogance.
I am. It’s about 8 seasons overdue
Me.
You know what's funny? Whenever Red says to Liz "Elizabeth, listen to me"
When he said ...this is the blacklist ... my heart just broke up in million peaces because this sound like "this is the end of the show"😭😭😭nooooo
It’s far from over
Next season is announced
It is odd because it feels like the end but it is renewed for a ninth season
@@damonbackmann1053 seems like we get all the answers to what reddington was doing now.
I guess they´ll explain everything now and next season will be kinda the final battle against whoever they´re up to
NBC renewed it for season 9. Pay attention and youll know its not the end.
I'm impressed with how long they've dragged this show out lol
I’m at the point that I want it to be over already.
@@mariorivera6292 same but this season hasn’t been so one more season can’t hurt as long as it’s one more season
You are not real fans , you are just idiots 👌🏼
Get lost, Karen!
@@cobzarucristian6818 true
0:37 "Katarina Rostova was never framed, or killed." So either the woman he killed in the park wasn't Katarina, or they faked it. I always thought it was off that they switched actors. I think 'mom' was an imposter. Otherwise why hate Red so much and try to kill him? It's a stretch to think that whole arc was part of their 'plan.'
I think it was cyranoid.
It was to hide Katarina again.
She was a real Katarina and she is alive and Elizabeth know it very well. She cooperating with Red for now! It is theatre for FBI!
For Gene. Katarina cooperating with Red since childhood. End of 6season and start 7.season was a briliant Reddinkton's and Katarína's plan revenge to Dom and Ilja Kozlov which betrayed her in the Belgrade! Etc... Elyzabeth heard message by Katarina on her phone. At the end of the conversatoin between Katarina and Reddinkton we heard a two shots. But what we didn't see was that in the phone was another message by Katarina which she send her after "death" from the car. After this time Elyzabeth cooperating with Red! Poor her team (Skip and other's). They must died and Elizabeth knew about this. All most 8 season is Reddinkton's and Elyzabet's theatre for FBI.
Whats funny? That FBI has been no idea about this, but Cooper did help Reddinkton keep to save Elizabeth! (Elizabeth was along in the box. No agent's to protect her!). Aram put a malwere on the Resler'phone (of my mine). Why? Besause croissant. (Elyzabeth asked him to do it.). And Resler did find Jennifer! (Elizabeth asked him do it.) Because Jennifer is probably alive. Etc...
Season 8 has been great so far. I can't wait for last episodes!
So behind this door, there is a giant computer with the brain of Lizz‘s mother and calculating every possibly scenario of every human being.
person of interest 2.0
So much like Psycho-Pass XD
@@250hero Please don’t disrespect my boys finch and Ingram
@@eliaska6819 dude i love that show
@@250hero exactely my thought! I saw parralels from the start! And I loved this show so it was clear, I would fall for "THE bLACKLIST´"
TOO
I bet maybe inside could be a powerful machine that could track and identify any blacklisters all over the world.
Person of interest kinda vibe
@@somethingsomething6243 I was thinking that
That would be incredibly dumb
When He tells her the truth at that moment Townsend will arrive there
I said that cause she ain’t turn the tracker off .
I think Townsend is done by the finale.
🤣😂😂
@@jbrewerman2 hope not he is fun to watch
I rather doubt that, but one never knows.
Mystery of the century....Liz gonna get a shock of her life.. Awesome show.
I can speculate one thing.. she is still holding that tracker through which Townsend is tracking them. I think he will show up in the so called epicenter courtesy LIZ mam.
Elizabeth is really getting on my nerves!!! Is either they let her find out the truth or get rid of her, she putting too much lives at risk!!’
get rid of the female character better tho..
As unfortunate this sounds, Elizabeth is equally important on this show. The Blacklist is about her and Reddington. Believe me, I want Elizabeth gone because she does get on my nerves as well, but that will not happen. One of the things I don't appreciate about this show is how it gets rid of a lot of kick ass women like Meera Malak, Samar Navabi and Kate Kaplan. Hopefully, Agent Park stays and we see more of her and Reddington taking on missions in the future.
@@tiffaniealice3062 i didn't mind mr kaplan gone,but i to agreed with you(malik n navabi)they're bad ass!
@@tiffaniealice3062 where is Gina Z. ?
@@warhero99 I didn’t include Gina because she wasn’t part of the main cast. But yes, she was also bad ass!
IMO they should go with season 2 music (start of lord Baltimore) for the commando scene
Sure, cuz I remember that like it was yesterday...
All secrets lead back to one person and we don't see her near enough on the show every week! CYNTHIA PANABAKER!
So she is Liz's real mother?
I am beginning to buy your idea
@@roberterlandson8234 I honestly believe she could be
Panabaker is a member of the Cabal.
@@jameswilliamson6260That’s the dumbest theory ever man.
Okay but the way they introduced Anne, killed her off, and then proceeded with the show like she wasn't important to Red at all 💀 bit rude imo
I think she is not dead, she is there, in the bunker
No evidence that she’s dead. She might have been saved and hidden by Red.
The archive is the blacklist, Red says it was a gift
yeah we watched mate
The archive was a SEED. What's INSIDE the building it what it get into:The Blacklist.
@@faustman1000 and that's just the first building... I bet he's got way cooler ones ... going to be a gas ... "part of a machine" "facilities all over the world"
If that all the information we learn, it isnt enough.
Catarina pulled an Orochimaru on all of us !!!
So I’m confused was Katerina really her mom or is her mom somewhere else? It sounds like her real mother still alive based on what he is saying
It doesn't matter. At this point, there are too many plot holes. It's a soap opera. Enjoy the show!
She seems alive, tho I dont understand why when Raymond saw the other woman he addressed her as Katarina. Maybe it is her and somehow she forget her memories?
@@shopax3851 he never addressed her as Katarina
One of my theories is that Katrina Restova not only had someone else become Reddington after the original’s death but also had a woman take her place as well. It’s been established that memories can be repressed and new ones can be implanted. Even the spin-off show established a conspiracy of people being replaced with double-agents to look like them to infiltrate governments or corporations. So, I ask, what if Katrina had someone take her place, believing to be the real Katrina, while she went into hiding?
I'm thinking the other woman is not Katarina but posed as Kat to get info on Red from Keen (or something) and that the real Katarina is the original actress playing young Katarina aged to the current year. Mr. Kaplan probably survived her fall into the river as well.
I was really hoping it was Townsend that got Liz when they broke into the black site since they keep thinking they could do better every time red warned them she wouldn't be safe with them
I wonder if this 'Machine' has any ties to the Machine in Person of Interest. I'd fall on my ass if Harold Finch is in there and Reddington is the new primary asset :D
Bro that would be the craziest shit ever
is it wrong that i would love that? i miss that show...
@@seltin1988 lets do it... get it done
Harold Finch, or whoever plays him is on a show called EVIL and he is! Pat
Please where can i look at this ?
As long as Liz stops whisper talking in plain sight with noone in the near vicinity, i’ll be happier than ever before.
Yes! I’m so excited to find out if my theory is right!
Whats your theory? :)
What is your theory??
@@natalijanikolic5553 What is yours? LOL
@@samuelbiswas1232 What is yours? LOL
I feel totally stupid i have been lost with the scenario.
This is the blacklist
🤗😍😘😘😘
Liz is a super I.A going crazy RR her creator and all the show takes pkace in her supercomputer
Liz is Raymond Reddington, whose brain was implanted in the adult body of the child, who was Liz until the child became comatose due to the trauma of the fire. Given the brain of the child was useless for the rest of the female body's life, the brain of Raymond Reddington was saved from death after being shot and implanted in the growing female body. A dissociate personality disorder was deliberately instilled (like the 2nd season episode: "Lord Baltimore") wherein Raymond is slumbering and the dominant personality is a false personality that believes she is Elizabeth Keen. Upon learning the truth on the 16th of June, Raymond Reddington in the body of their daughter will re-emerge and take over operations with Katarina Rosotova. The man we call Reddington is in fact Raymond's brother, James (named after the actor), who oversaw all things since before the pilot episode. In a nutshell, Elizabeth Keen does not actually exist, but is an invented persona.
They need to do more than this! I get why RR saved Liz again but why go through so many lies and constantly back and forth about being her father only to now give her the keys to the kingdom!? And we all know that Townsend is asymmetrical just like RR so he will be on his way to Latvia and stop THE TRUTH being released once again because Liz has that tracker! I was hyped when he RR said about the secrets and the answers but it's like they're playing jenga and each time they pull a piece of the story they replace it with a weaker "piece" and eventually this show will just collapse!... "I need the fulcrum it will save my life" sounding like real RR, now he's at a place where he basically has a turbo charged version of the fulcrum? Sorry but I just get the feeling regardless of what we find out there will be a plot hole and it will leave with no armour! This show hasn't been as exciting as it once was since season 1-3 and then end of season 6!...
Which brings me to this, if KR isn't dead then why would RR say she was and why would dembe say "did you mean to kill KR in front of Liz?" So many plot holes and I'm shocked to learn there's gonna be a season 9? 😑😂😂😂😂
For the hype. That's it. You writing more than 20 lines just speculating hahah. I think it's true there are plot holes but you have to embrace this revelation and enjoy it :). We are bound to see a fucking 10/10 episode next week!!
I don't see Townsend showing up. The next two episodes will be backstory pushing to the present. He may make an appearance in the last few seconds of S8E22, but just enough to hang everyone over until S9. Just my take based on how things have gone over the season and a recent interview I heard with Jon Bokenkamp.
It`s Riga baby!
So liz mom is still alive. Im Waiting to see liz begging for forgiveness after trying to kill red. Knowing what red is trying to do is to protect her. A fsthers love. 😣
Raymond is Katrina...
my guess is Red is gonna die at the End of the season moving Elizabeth into his new role as head of his organization
No way!! Red may die but at the very end, he is the essence of the show!
If Red dies, the show ends. He’s carrying the entire franchise.
No. Liz has a burn notice on her from the US Government. Unless there's a blacklister inside she can persuade to let it go, she's done.
Been reported megan boone is leaving the show after season 8.
So did they just say that liz's mom never really died when we thought we saw her get shot because that's how I hear it
That woman he shot was not katarina
That was really her mom, what Red meant is when everyone thought she had disappeared and everyone thought she was dead until Liz and Don started snooping around and asking questions
When Red said she wasn’t “Frame and and murder” that was the time period when she was died nothing but a ghost story to the world until her daughter started to ask questions about her
@@zhivadascott4235 the only problem I have with that now is if she just stayed away let red do his thing she could have stayed hidden red ends up making liz stop and everything ends but with last season it sounded like she had to prove her innocence and that liz could do that here but now all of this conflicts with what we've been told
For Hani. You wrong. The woman was real Katarina. Her death was a illusion!
Everything going good so is there a way they can bring back Tom Keen?
Tom Keen returning won't happen, unless Ryan Eggold has the time to at least appear in one episode. Eggold has his own show (thanks to the success of The Blacklist). And the way I see it...the show is probably going to make Liz and Ressler a couple.
Tom keen was the best and smart boy
Ryan has a job. A GREAT job in a GREAT show.
Besides, poor dear Tom is dead. Just dead.
Bokenkamp confirmed Tom is dead, and Anne
They should have kept the show Redemption on!
This better not have a GOT ending.
To be honest, Blacklist season 6-8 up until these recent episodes have felt like GOT season 8.
with season 9 coming its far too soon to say
This should at least have a Queen of the South ending! Way better than GOT’s stupid ending!
Guys I need help with the plot ... they tested Red's blood and realised that he's Liz's father and if Red didn't alter the test, then who did? Or did they test it against old /Real Reddington from 30 years ago
Copper’s test was from real Red’s blood stained from the 1980’s when they worked together on militia missions.
Whatttt......No turning backkk....
Ilya give sircosky arhive to red
So, that's Northern Lights o Samaritan?
YES Mr Reece incoming
Katerina is not dead
I think the odds of season 9 just went up
Season 9 was already green lit months ago
@@v2btrthnu24 heard nothing about that. Hope your right.
@@giberish9 It is def renewed months ago..here are some links regarding it from earlier this year
www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/blacklist-renewed-season-9-nbc-4122073/
www.thewrap.com/the-blacklist-renewed-season-9-nbc/
www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a36000895/the-blacklist-season-9-release-date/
www.looper.com/399187/the-blacklist-season-9-release-date-cast-plot/
She is leaving the show at the end of the season.
"with her knowledge and blessing" Didn't Raymond Reddington from the flashback take information from Katarina in secret?
What's inside? Any guess?
A machine that spits out names and to run Red's business
Liz's mom
Arnim Zola from winter Soldier
An Alien spaceship that crash landed in Russia a long time ago.
@@Sarasdad91 Funny. That would mean the blacklist is almost the X-files .
I think someone else would have acted Elizabeth's role better
Yes I also think so
Yep agree megan is lousy actress
from the first season it can be seen that she's a bad actress.
@@olaula1653 yea .. but she should learn .. it's been almost 8 year since 2012 right?
@@nanigusnaeni3954 I think she's a little better since then.but still nothing special
In the end he said "The Blacklist" does this mean that everyone that is supposed to be dead is still alive ????
Nah, he didn’t mean the people who were on the Blacklist, but rather something else that helps make the Blacklist possible, like a supercomputer or a secret organization that hunts down potential Blacklisters.
Fuck no. How in the Jesus would they bring back the Stewmaker?
wait,is there season 8?
Yes, waiting on season 9 now.
This is Season 8
man where have u been these past year?
When it is on Netflix
@@raajasimman4454 ahahaha.. That total 20 episodes is a whole alot of popcorn. 😂
This is getting annoyingly bonkers!
Great fan of spader n the show but its beyond stupid now
Raymond reddington is her mother!!!!!
100%
I’m going to miss Megan