Most overrated Sam: G wagon... Starts explaining his point of view Tony's head: oh the one who looks the same... and which Sam loves... Tony: I got one... The Defender... Sam: Oh... Why... Why Tony: because it's a f*** piece of sh*t... Ahahaha... That's why I hate listening only...I have to watch the podcast.
That tickled me because I saw one last week at some traffic lights. It's lights and parking sensors were going crazy, the guy was sat inside like it was just a normal thing for parking sensors to be beeping and the lights to be in disco mode when stationary in traffic 😅
The most overlooked factor in the rise of SUV’s is modern headlight technology. Given the retina melting LED’s these days driving a low car at night is a nightmare!
Not watched this yet but can we have another shoutout for Tony on being a FANTASTIC podcast host last week? Top tier stuff - inspiring for a lot of people to hear the things said by both Sam and Tony 😁 Excited for this more 'normal' podcast again...
Underrated SUV: SQ7 - the new one with the petrol V8 that is. Never gets talked about, (probably because most people still think it has a diesel), 507 hp, sounds better than the RSQ8 and looks arguably better than most "Coupe" SUVs. Great option, if you want an understated powerful daily, that doesnt scream "look at me and how much money i make".
It think it should have the RS4 V6, but I’ll give you that. Diesel would have been a good choice, because it’s a big heavy thing, but it’s Audi, part of the VW group and that Diesel SQ7 came around the time of Dieselgate, so when you put it all together, you can see why they went for petrol.
Underrated luxury SUV - Genesis GV80, only came to the UK this year and they really are Bentley quality and way above an Audi, after being in one. The 2.5L petrol and 3.0 Straight-six diesel aren't bad aswell!
Re the Stelvio Quadrifoglio 'Infotainment/Tech' doesn't worry me at all Sam. As long as the stereo has a great sound (they all do nowadays), I couldn't give a damn about all the other crap. Just more to go wrong anyway. You place a lot of weight on something that no one actually needs. Waze on your phone works very well. The Levante is pug ugly compared to the Stelvio. Slightly disagree with the first of the current SUV trend.....ML Mercedes-Benz- back in 98 this set a new standard in comfortable 4x4's....agreed 2 years later the X5 went one step further in sportiness as it didn't have a separate chassis, but it was shit off road and didn't have a low ration transfer box. So for those towing horseboxes or boats X5's didn't cut the mustard. They wouldn't go anywhere in the snow either (unlike the ML). The original ML is excellent off-road/snow by the way. I think the discussion about 'fruity cars' is actually pointless as in this country you are stuck in the same queue of traffic as the SUV's you list as boring. No one buys SUV's to use on track days do they? Wouldn't touch a Land Rover product despite your collective love of RR Sport.....don't want to get to know the recovery drivers thank you......or the LR dealer invoices.
Sam for you- when you swap that M40i, you’ll realise that it’s just brilliant and you’ll only miss it when it’s gone. Keep on plugging with it and eventually you’ll learn to love it
Two comments to add; 1/ good reason for SUVs - crappy pot hole covered roads. 2/ Do anything lifestyle SUV with massive load capacity - VW Transporter Kombi is hugely popular now.
I begged Audi for the RS6 and RSQ8 and thought they absolutely NAILED them both…and they’re both yawners and we all dumped them fairly quickly for cars with more theater. They’re not “a Urus on a budget.” They’re teddy bears and the Urus is Chucky.
Want to go off road? Get a Hi-lux. Want space? Get an estate. Want to carry a big family? Get a 7 seater. Want to go fast? Get a sports car. Want to show off, be antisocial, destroy the roads, belch out CO2, kill pedestrians and take up too much space? Get an SUV.
I think you've missed a point though. I am a car guy but I don't have the money to run a Macan or an SUV that's actually nice to drive. All, literally all, my mates have things like Sportage, Qashqai, XTrail, Ateca, Tuscan, CX3 some of which are just not that big. And none of them give a toss how good they are to drive and they just buy them cause its what people do. FYI I have two kids and a dog, So I just stick to a wagon, Mazda 6 at the moment
I'm sorry but 2 tonne cars, 2m wide struggling to park in Waitrose and clogging up South London are just utterly pointless. These cars are too big for UK roads. People by Range Rovers as they can't think of anything else to buy and have no imagination. Real landed gentry almost always drive Subaru's and Volvo's not gin palaces on wheels for the nouveau riche. You don't need something this big for 2 adults and 2 kids, a 3 series touring or Golf are probably better. The idea that a LWB RR is a great choice for a family is preposterous, how on earth would you park it anywhere, it would be a total nuisance and a real hassle. Its all status driven (people who want to be footballers or appear to be rich). People should at least be trying to save the planet they should be buying smaller, more compact less polluting cars made with fewer materials. A 15 year old Subaru Forester is narrower than a new VW Polo and weighs less than a Lotus Emira, how far things have gone wrong.
I think the RS6 is a great car but Tony is right about it's price. It's so expensive because of how complex the suspension and ECU system is which will also be expensive to service down the road.
Not convinced any farmers are buying defenders - I expect they've all moved into L200s, Hiluxes etc. surely it is only being bought by people have no need for any of its capability.
Just got a new Urus. Great car. Got to drive a DBX for a few days. It was complete garbage. Felt super cheap in the interior and the seats were very uncomfortable.
I think the boom with crossovers started with middle income earners looking to own a car that gave them more status. Before crossovers, mid to large SUVs such as the X3, Q5 or Range Rover were relatively unattainable for most people. Then car makers started launching good looking small SUVs that were often the same size as older x3's and everyone wanted that status vehicle. I think that's where it started. For a time a car like a modern Tiguan was a big car for a good price. Personally I think SUVs look good on the driveway and families like to look like they are doing well don't they? The funny thing is they have absolutely no boot space and you'd be better off in a Saloon car but try telling young families that.
Great epsiode, AMAZING guest! Had a great time listening but I am still an estate sort of guy lol. However, the current X5 M50i is so good and provides all the X5 M benefits with the luxuries of the X7
The DBX might not be the best car but has definitely saved Aston Martin. Autocar just released an article today about how the DBX has made up 50% of Aston sales in 2021 so far. The company have doubled their sales this year purely down to the DBX. I think it is just that as a large number of them are being bought outside Europe it looks to us like they are not selling many.
Every time I mention to anyone that I’m thinking of a Range Rover I’m met with get used to standing at the side of the road! This is from owners and car valet guys. Surely it’s not that bad these days?
I’ve always had hot hatches as a daily driver and switched to a Macan GTS last year, brilliant car, fast, reliable, luxurious and handles really well and you don’t drive it like a arse to enjoy it.
How are you only paying £450 per month ? Sounds a great deal , I’m paying £850 per month for a R Design XC90 on 15,000 miles p/a and need to replace it in February 2022. Love the last few shows on SUV’s as I need to make a decision on something that has the same space as what I have now to cater for, kids , dogs etc !
Love the show but isn’t Tony being a little bit double standards. He hates McLaren because even though the car is great. It’s isn’t reliable. Range Rover suffers from the same issue with over 30% of the cars needing to back to dealership for reliability and electric issues. X5/X7 Q7/Q8 and even the Merc equivalents offer a more reliable car with same capability. Why is Range Rover that has problems ok but a super car then not?
Tony is absolutely right about BMW run flat tires catching nails. I have had 6 tires replaced in 18 months on my 2020 X5 from picking up nails. All 4 were replaced 2 months ago free of charge. Thank god for the tire insurance plan I bought when I purchased the car.
i agree with the suv man. my dad wouldn’t be planning on getting an svr if he didn’t like cars and have a family. daily driver can carry the family and be fun to drive
How can the Bus driver in all honesty defend the G Wagon and Urus as not being overrated and then trash the Defender..for the dear old poseurs and bling merchants the Defender is way better value than the Gwagon..unless you want to be a Cardashian wannabe or just scream I’ve got loadsamoney and no taste…
Great discussion guys. I just leased a 2021 Levante and for 2021 Maserati does have the new U Connect 5 infotainment system. It’s fantastic! Mike Chahbandour
I will always have a Range Rover. Buy the big daddy. Avoid the RRS SVR, Tony’s right, if you get the supercharged or autobiography in the Sport, it’s the same 99.9% of the time and a lot more comfortable. When you get out of a sport and get into the big daddy you notice the giant step up. If you want nimbleness in an SUV you buy a Macan. The PDK is second to none.
My dad has had loads of Full size Range Rovers and recently we have had a couple of Sports including diesel to SVR, right now we have a Vogue great car but the sport is better for us due to the compact size and fact it drives like a sports car. I think a Sport with a medium sized engine E.g P400 HST is best car best of both.
Best SUV. GLC 300d. Looks great. Quick enough, good torque. 40mpg in town, 600 miles from a tank on a long distance run. Not too large; easy to fit roof box if you need more.
How comes Andrew isn't interested in Estates. RS6 and E63 has all the performance, occupancy and versatility (off road manors aside) of any SUV and dynamism in a different universe. I always thought that a car guy with 2 children would truly just buy an M3; because the kids and Mrs need to flex to car life, not the other way round. If we are talking people that can afford a daily (SUV) and a weekend weapon this conversation makes more sense.
bloody brilliant chat as always. this podcast is IMO the best automotive/“car TH-camr” podcast on YT. So focused and knowledgeable yet doesn’t take itself too seriously. Cheers Sam and Tony
I got out of E63 saloon to a Cayenne GTS because I needed a vehicle that could do everything whilst putting a smile on my face when I drive it. And I can go on ski trips and still tow up to 3200kgs
I had a 2017 Range Rover Sport SVR & it rode worse than my present Porsche 911 (992)….the SVR was way to jiggly at low speeds around town….but strangely it got better MPG🤷♂️ (all my miles are short town stuff though)…
It would be nice if you had dropped down to the small SUV bracket 30 to 40k for example, my wife and myself love your podcast and your TH-cam channel and now Tony has joined you it's the icing on the cake.Just remember not all your viewers are loaded with cash.Otherwise 10 out of 10👍👍🏁
The Q3 2021 results are out and these show Aston Martin delivered a total of 2,186 DBX SUVs between January and September. In this interval, the other products generated sales of 2,064 units.
Own many high end cars...but 90% of the miles last year were driven in our New Defender...just such a FANTASTIC car to live with every day. Whole family absolutely loves it.
SUV's, the most pointless type of vehicle on the planet. Yet, they have become an aspirational vehicle of choice for a large majority, who fancy themselves as small truck/bus drivers.
Totally agree With Sam on the G Wagon and Andrew on the RS6 - it’s just a car that people on the internet like, it looks good and it’s fast but it’s a big old heavy barge. Similar to a fast SUV.
Totally disagree on driving position. I feel like I’m sitting way to high in an suv, feels like I’m so disconnected to the drive, way less in control, wobbling about. Really really don’t like it :/
I think Aston doomed themselves the second they put Mercedes Engines in their cars. The biggest reason to buy an Aston and put up with poor infotainment, poor build quality and poor driving dynamics was to get those engines in your life. They put far too much stock into their looks and this is coming from the biggest Aston Martin fan, but I could care less about any of the new Aston’s.
I think SUVs' popularity, particularly crossovers (Qashqai, X1, Sportage, Tiguan, etc), could also be because beginner drivers feel more confident and comfortable sat up high and once you have that, it's difficult to let go of it. Then they start a family and realise SUVs' and crossover's versatility and ease at which you can load stuff into them. So for the remainder of their lives, they keep coming back to them. Also, because car prices have risen in recent years, some can no longer afford multiple cars for different purposes, they need a jack of all trades and SUVs fit the bill. So you can see why their market share is so big nowadays. The thing I struggle to understand is, why there is an ongoing uproar against manufacturers making SUVs amongst enthusiasts. "When is the SUV trend going to stop?", "These are pointless vehicles, "Please stop this SUV nonsense". Not every car on the road has to give hints of driving enjoyment and sportiness, as much as we would like them to be. Is it the Chris Harris effect? Is it the wagon craze? There's just something I'm not getting with regards to the SUV hate. It’s almost as if you can’t be a “petrol head” if you like SUVs. I don't love them with a passion, but I certainly don't hate them.
From best episode you’ve ever done last week to the worst. Really cannot abide by SUVs and their insecure drivers. By the way, was in the Range Rover dealership recently and it was full of travellers and permatanned Essex bods. That’s the types that drive them and the stigma they now have.
Tony is a genius. Funny how you mention run flat getting nails. Im having that very issue with my bmw! Pirelli p zeros too!!! Keep getting bloody nails stuck in them.
My Dad had 5 or 6 Range Rovers back in the 80s and 90s. However I’ve got a ‘16 BMW X5. 7 seats, best Nav, tow bar, based on rwd chassis so a good drive. BUT, the ‘Rangie’ just has something special about it.
Great Podcast as always, although nothing is better than the episode where Paul, Supercars of London, shows up an hour early. The banter between all three equates to my favorite episode of all time
I just don't understand the safety and space argument, SUVs are often more dangerous in things like the Moose Test and space wise they are usually smaller inside than a comparable estate
You guys are spending too much time in London. The Defender adds more off road capability and the intwrior is designed to clean up after off roading. That is why it isn't as good in the world of lux SUVs. If ballers modify them for the street that's their issue. Land Rover didn't design it that way.
Very good episode. Here usa jeep and now ford with new bronco taking over Outdoors and suv market. Also for cheap the f-phase is cool for money quite reliable and not to crazy here used. Theo huynida and Kia are on point with small suv lately.
Hi Sam, great podcast! I've noticed you have some STG keychains on the desk but they're not on the website for purchase? Will they be added to the website soon? Many thanks!
SUVs are 4/5 cars in one. Even if you have the money, some people can’t be arsed to run and maintain 3 cars to cater for each role. Personally, I’ve got just the regular X5 30d. Plenty fast enough
You like the defender because you agree with the fashion statement it provides. You dislike the G wagon because you disagree with the fashion statement it provides
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get the f-pace as replacement so 2 birds 1 stone with the f-type thing you want, then get a gt3 touring😆😂
Honestly yes, would rather see an f-face svr rather than an f-type which we already had plenty of content on
31:16 Tony’s F bomb caught me off guard haha
Most overrated
Sam: G wagon... Starts explaining his point of view
Tony's head: oh the one who looks the same... and which Sam loves...
Tony: I got one... The Defender...
Sam: Oh... Why... Why
Tony: because it's a f*** piece of sh*t...
Ahahaha... That's why I hate listening only...I have to watch the podcast.
"No he's deluded" 😆
That tickled me because I saw one last week at some traffic lights. It's lights and parking sensors were going crazy, the guy was sat inside like it was just a normal thing for parking sensors to be beeping and the lights to be in disco mode when stationary in traffic 😅
The most overlooked factor in the rise of SUV’s is modern headlight technology. Given the retina melting LED’s these days driving a low car at night is a nightmare!
Driving my 2001 BMW 330ci at night is a nightmare almost get a seizure when a car gets to close. Don’t even get me started on those audi lights 🙄
Spot on
The moment a "lighthouse' equipped SUV come up Infront or behind you at night. 😲
Agreed! If you drive a lower car you're gonna be blinded since most modern suvs have bright lights
Not watched this yet but can we have another shoutout for Tony on being a FANTASTIC podcast host last week? Top tier stuff - inspiring for a lot of people to hear the things said by both Sam and Tony 😁
Excited for this more 'normal' podcast again...
Crashy: widely used to describe a harsh ride. Tony right again in my opinion.
not so on our side of pond, so I am glad for clarification
@@TymaDem what side is that? Quite common in the UK to refer to the ride as crashy. Think clarkson did on on Top Gear a few times
@@mercury6765 I meant US, here we say stiff ride
@@TymaDem ahhh fair enough
@@TymaDem I thought stiff ride meant something else 😏
Underrated SUV: SQ7 - the new one with the petrol V8 that is. Never gets talked about, (probably because most people still think it has a diesel), 507 hp, sounds better than the RSQ8 and looks arguably better than most "Coupe" SUVs. Great option, if you want an understated powerful daily, that doesnt scream "look at me and how much money i make".
It think it should have the RS4 V6, but I’ll give you that. Diesel would have been a good choice, because it’s a big heavy thing, but it’s Audi, part of the VW group and that Diesel SQ7 came around the time of Dieselgate, so when you put it all together, you can see why they went for petrol.
Agree. I bought one instead of a Porsche Cayenne GTS. Same engine albeit the Audi has more Bhp (go figure) and 15k less fully loaded vorsprung!!!
Underrated luxury SUV - Genesis GV80, only came to the UK this year and they really are Bentley quality and way above an Audi, after being in one. The 2.5L petrol and 3.0 Straight-six diesel aren't bad aswell!
can't belive how few subs and views this podcast has, so underrated
I think part of it is there are a lot of audio-only listeners. The numbers you see here are a far cry from total numbers.
Andrew is a top bloke, awesome podcast guys, this was top jokes but also great content!
Re the Stelvio Quadrifoglio 'Infotainment/Tech' doesn't worry me at all Sam. As long as the stereo has a great sound (they all do nowadays), I couldn't give a damn about all the other crap. Just more to go wrong anyway. You place a lot of weight on something that no one actually needs. Waze on your phone works very well.
The Levante is pug ugly compared to the Stelvio.
Slightly disagree with the first of the current SUV trend.....ML Mercedes-Benz- back in 98 this set a new standard in comfortable 4x4's....agreed 2 years later the X5 went one step further in sportiness as it didn't have a separate chassis, but it was shit off road and didn't have a low ration transfer box. So for those towing horseboxes or boats X5's didn't cut the mustard. They wouldn't go anywhere in the snow either (unlike the ML).
The original ML is excellent off-road/snow by the way.
I think the discussion about 'fruity cars' is actually pointless as in this country you are stuck in the same queue of traffic as the SUV's you list as boring. No one buys SUV's to use on track days do they?
Wouldn't touch a Land Rover product despite your collective love of RR Sport.....don't want to get to know the recovery drivers thank you......or the LR dealer invoices.
Sam for you- when you swap that M40i, you’ll realise that it’s just brilliant and you’ll only miss it when it’s gone. Keep on plugging with it and eventually you’ll learn to love it
The thing I look forward to every week. Podcast is always a vibe 👌🏻🔥
Good point Tony. We’ve had 4 nails/screws in our X3 M40i. In 2 years. We’ll see now if that’s true, as we traded in for a X3M Competition
Great car!
Crashy is the right word.. I wish Sam would stop correcting Tony.. hes right more often than not!
Underrated: Volvo XC90 V8. Such a sleeper, sounds incredible
Unfortunately it's engine only in the old XC
@@BestCarSound yeah and that’s why the old one is way cooler
31:19 You didn't bleep it LOL
Two comments to add;
1/ good reason for SUVs - crappy pot hole covered roads.
2/ Do anything lifestyle SUV with massive load capacity - VW Transporter Kombi is hugely popular now.
I begged Audi for the RS6 and RSQ8 and thought they absolutely NAILED them both…and they’re both yawners and we all dumped them fairly quickly for cars with more theater. They’re not “a Urus on a budget.” They’re teddy bears and the Urus is Chucky.
Every episode should be called Tony plugging gravelwood for an hour🤣🤣
Long may he last,he brings a dealer mindset, and we get to hear him every week.
Want to go off road? Get a Hi-lux. Want space? Get an estate. Want to carry a big family? Get a 7 seater. Want to go fast? Get a sports car. Want to show off, be antisocial, destroy the roads, belch out CO2, kill pedestrians and take up too much space? Get an SUV.
9:00 I'm with Tony, Range Rover doesnt compete with Cullinan. They are not on the same level
To replace the BMW X3 M40i would be the AMG GLC43 as the interior has way better style and the engine has way better emotion
Thank you for getting Andrew down to give his experience and thoughts 👍
This smooth and successful northerner grates at me with his palpable aura of self-satisfaction
I think you've missed a point though. I am a car guy but I don't have the money to run a Macan or an SUV that's actually nice to drive. All, literally all, my mates have things like Sportage, Qashqai, XTrail, Ateca, Tuscan, CX3 some of which are just not that big. And none of them give a toss how good they are to drive and they just buy them cause its what people do. FYI I have two kids and a dog, So I just stick to a wagon, Mazda 6 at the moment
I'm sorry but 2 tonne cars, 2m wide struggling to park in Waitrose and clogging up South London are just utterly pointless. These cars are too big for UK roads. People by Range Rovers as they can't think of anything else to buy and have no imagination. Real landed gentry almost always drive Subaru's and Volvo's not gin palaces on wheels for the nouveau riche. You don't need something this big for 2 adults and 2 kids, a 3 series touring or Golf are probably better. The idea that a LWB RR is a great choice for a family is preposterous, how on earth would you park it anywhere, it would be a total nuisance and a real hassle. Its all status driven (people who want to be footballers or appear to be rich). People should at least be trying to save the planet they should be buying smaller, more compact less polluting cars made with fewer materials. A 15 year old Subaru Forester is narrower than a new VW Polo and weighs less than a Lotus Emira, how far things have gone wrong.
A little known fact is that the Porsche GT department helped Lamborghini with the tuning of the Urus.
These prices are killing me. Only 115.000 for an RS6 vorsprung? They cost 250.000 euros here that’s like 220.000 pounds bleh
Range Rover "they're the best" but they go wrong all the time... 😂 👍
Junk
I think the RS6 is a great car but Tony is right about it's price. It's so expensive because of how complex the suspension and ECU system is which will also be expensive to service down the road.
Really enjoyed Andrew's perspective this week, great show 👍
Not convinced any farmers are buying defenders - I expect they've all moved into L200s, Hiluxes etc. surely it is only being bought by people have no need for any of its capability.
Just got a new Urus. Great car.
Got to drive a DBX for a few days. It was complete garbage. Felt super cheap in the interior and the seats were very uncomfortable.
porsche 911 GT5 will be launched mid 2022
for dailying and usability, don't go X3M from M40i, yes it's faster but you're not gonna enjoy how much stiffer it is
The Range Rover Velar surely deserves a shout
On point again. The new X3MC is less crashy. And very fast.
I think the boom with crossovers started with middle income earners looking to own a car that gave them more status. Before crossovers, mid to large SUVs such as the X3, Q5 or Range Rover were relatively unattainable for most people. Then car makers started launching good looking small SUVs that were often the same size as older x3's and everyone wanted that status vehicle. I think that's where it started. For a time a car like a modern Tiguan was a big car for a good price. Personally I think SUVs look good on the driveway and families like to look like they are doing well don't they? The funny thing is they have absolutely no boot space and you'd be better off in a Saloon car but try telling young families that.
Best SUV in the world is GLE 53 AMG
Loved this. Keep up good work. Helps me with the constant traffic jams of the uk.
Knock knock
Who’s there?
Kwikfit, Savills and The Avon Lady…😂
Great epsiode, AMAZING guest! Had a great time listening but I am still an estate sort of guy lol. However, the current X5 M50i is so good and provides all the X5 M benefits with the luxuries of the X7
The DBX might not be the best car but has definitely saved Aston Martin. Autocar just released an article today about how the DBX has made up 50% of Aston sales in 2021 so far. The company have doubled their sales this year purely down to the DBX. I think it is just that as a large number of them are being bought outside Europe it looks to us like they are not selling many.
personally if i’m paying urus and turbo gt money. i’d get the urus. it can’t be mistaken for a base model cayenne 😂
Mercedes AMG GLC63s slept on!!!!
Best of luck with your home purchase, Sam!
Every time I mention to anyone that I’m thinking of a Range Rover I’m met with get used to standing at the side of the road! This is from owners and car valet guys. Surely it’s not that bad these days?
Newer than 2014 I believe are best. My uncle has had a 2014 RR Sport, now a 2018 P400e Range and he hasn't had any problems with either.
The new Jaguar F Pace SVR with the new infotainment system is unbelievable value for money. A lot of car for the money.
I’ve always had hot hatches as a daily driver and switched to a Macan GTS last year, brilliant car, fast, reliable, luxurious and handles really well and you don’t drive it like a arse to enjoy it.
How are you only paying £450 per month ? Sounds a great deal , I’m paying £850 per month for a R Design XC90 on 15,000 miles p/a and need to replace it in February 2022. Love the last few shows on SUV’s as I need to make a decision on something that has the same space as what I have now to cater for, kids , dogs etc !
Love the show but isn’t Tony being a little bit double standards.
He hates McLaren because even though the car is great. It’s isn’t reliable.
Range Rover suffers from the same issue with over 30% of the cars needing to back to dealership for reliability and electric issues. X5/X7 Q7/Q8 and even the Merc equivalents offer a more reliable car with same capability.
Why is Range Rover that has problems ok but a super car then not?
Tony is absolutely right about BMW run flat tires catching nails. I have had 6 tires replaced in 18 months on my 2020 X5 from picking up nails. All 4 were replaced 2 months ago free of charge. Thank god for the tire insurance plan I bought when I purchased the car.
Tony, you’re absolutely right. Run-flat BMW tires are so prone to nails. I’ve had to replace the tires on my X1 three times now just because of nails.
i agree with the suv man. my dad wouldn’t be planning on getting an svr if he didn’t like cars and have a family. daily driver can carry the family and be fun to drive
How can the Bus driver in all honesty defend the G Wagon and Urus as not being overrated and then trash the Defender..for the dear old poseurs and bling merchants the Defender is way better value than the Gwagon..unless you want to be a Cardashian wannabe or just scream I’ve got loadsamoney and no taste…
Sam shut up, the G-Class might be the only luxury SUV you can off road, and SUV's are made for off roading.
You guys talking about SUV?
: Toyota Land Cruiser
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Nice guest.
Long hair...my wife...my kids...my Lambo's....'Tut Northern''...!
Twiggy is the star of the show !!! Love how Sam is pointing fingers at him below the desk
Great discussion guys. I just leased a 2021 Levante and for 2021 Maserati does have the new U Connect 5 infotainment system. It’s fantastic! Mike Chahbandour
I hope whoever buys the new beautiful Range Rover lives next door to the dealership. That will break……constantly.
I will always have a Range Rover. Buy the big daddy. Avoid the RRS SVR, Tony’s right, if you get the supercharged or autobiography in the Sport, it’s the same 99.9% of the time and a lot more comfortable. When you get out of a sport and get into the big daddy you notice the giant step up. If you want nimbleness in an SUV you buy a Macan. The PDK is second to none.
My dad has had loads of Full size Range Rovers and recently we have had a couple of Sports including diesel to SVR, right now we have a Vogue great car but the sport is better for us due to the compact size and fact it drives like a sports car. I think a Sport with a medium sized engine E.g P400 HST is best car best of both.
Don't go past Oxford...they are very different people....
Sorry Sam...Eton would't be impressed....xxx
Best SUV. GLC 300d. Looks great. Quick enough, good torque. 40mpg in town, 600 miles from a tank on a long distance run. Not too large; easy to fit roof box if you need more.
How comes Andrew isn't interested in Estates. RS6 and E63 has all the performance, occupancy and versatility (off road manors aside) of any SUV and dynamism in a different universe. I always thought that a car guy with 2 children would truly just buy an M3; because the kids and Mrs need to flex to car life, not the other way round. If we are talking people that can afford a daily (SUV) and a weekend weapon this conversation makes more sense.
oh got to the estates part... amazed suggesting an RSQ8 is a better drive than an RS6. That has to be non-sense
With all the new regulations coming in,speed limiters for example, I fear for the future of any high performance car manufacturers
So stop voting for numbskulls.
Removed the real comment on the 'tut northerner' .......
Better on YT than on Podcast. Strangely.
bloody brilliant chat as always. this podcast is IMO the best automotive/“car TH-camr” podcast on YT. So focused and knowledgeable yet doesn’t take itself too seriously. Cheers Sam and Tony
I got out of E63 saloon to a Cayenne GTS because I needed a vehicle that could do everything whilst putting a smile on my face when I drive it. And I can go on ski trips and still tow up to 3200kgs
I had a 2017 Range Rover Sport SVR & it rode worse than my present Porsche 911 (992)….the SVR was way to jiggly at low speeds around town….but strangely it got better MPG🤷♂️ (all my miles are short town stuff though)…
It would be nice if you had dropped down to the small SUV bracket 30 to 40k for example, my wife and myself love your podcast and your TH-cam channel and now Tony has joined you it's the icing on the cake.Just remember not all your viewers are loaded with cash.Otherwise 10 out of 10👍👍🏁
The Q3 2021 results are out and these show Aston Martin delivered a total of 2,186 DBX SUVs between January and September. In this interval, the other products generated sales of 2,064 units.
Own many high end cars...but 90% of the miles last year were driven in our New Defender...just such a FANTASTIC car to live with every day. Whole family absolutely loves it.
SUV's, the most pointless type of vehicle on the planet. Yet, they have become an aspirational vehicle of choice for a large majority, who fancy themselves as small truck/bus drivers.
Totally agree With Sam on the G Wagon and Andrew on the RS6 - it’s just a car that people on the internet like, it looks good and it’s fast but it’s a big old heavy barge. Similar to a fast SUV.
Totally disagree on driving position. I feel like I’m sitting way to high in an suv, feels like I’m so disconnected to the drive, way less in control, wobbling about. Really really don’t like it :/
I think Aston doomed themselves the second they put Mercedes Engines in their cars. The biggest reason to buy an Aston and put up with poor infotainment, poor build quality and poor driving dynamics was to get those engines in your life. They put far too much stock into their looks and this is coming from the biggest Aston Martin fan, but I could care less about any of the new Aston’s.
I think SUVs' popularity, particularly crossovers (Qashqai, X1, Sportage, Tiguan, etc), could also be because beginner drivers feel more confident and comfortable sat up high and once you have that, it's difficult to let go of it. Then they start a family and realise SUVs' and crossover's versatility and ease at which you can load stuff into them. So for the remainder of their lives, they keep coming back to them. Also, because car prices have risen in recent years, some can no longer afford multiple cars for different purposes, they need a jack of all trades and SUVs fit the bill. So you can see why their market share is so big nowadays.
The thing I struggle to understand is, why there is an ongoing uproar against manufacturers making SUVs amongst enthusiasts. "When is the SUV trend going to stop?", "These are pointless vehicles, "Please stop this SUV nonsense". Not every car on the road has to give hints of driving enjoyment and sportiness, as much as we would like them to be. Is it the Chris Harris effect? Is it the wagon craze? There's just something I'm not getting with regards to the SUV hate. It’s almost as if you can’t be a “petrol head” if you like SUVs. I don't love them with a passion, but I certainly don't hate them.
From best episode you’ve ever done last week to the worst. Really cannot abide by SUVs and their insecure drivers. By the way, was in the Range Rover dealership recently and it was full of travellers and permatanned Essex bods. That’s the types that drive them and the stigma they now have.
Tony is a genius. Funny how you mention run flat getting nails. Im having that very issue with my bmw! Pirelli p zeros too!!! Keep getting bloody nails stuck in them.
My Dad had 5 or 6 Range Rovers back in the 80s and 90s. However I’ve got a ‘16 BMW X5. 7 seats, best Nav, tow bar, based on rwd chassis so a good drive. BUT, the ‘Rangie’ just has something special about it.
Great Podcast as always, although nothing is better than the episode where Paul, Supercars of London, shows up an hour early. The banter between all three equates to my favorite episode of all time
I would look for a Cayenne tdi v8 as new as possible and low mileage. However in your case, I would keep the x3 and buy a gt3 or turbo s
I just don't understand the safety and space argument, SUVs are often more dangerous in things like the Moose Test and space wise they are usually smaller inside than a comparable estate
You guys are spending too much time in London. The Defender adds more off road capability and the intwrior is designed to clean up after off roading. That is why it isn't as good in the world of lux SUVs. If ballers modify them for the street that's their issue. Land Rover didn't design it that way.
Very good episode. Here usa jeep and now ford with new bronco taking over Outdoors and suv market. Also for cheap the f-phase is cool for money quite reliable and not to crazy here used. Theo huynida and Kia are on point with small suv lately.
Definitely the Jaguar F-Pace SVR is the most underrated SUV, look, sound, speed are amazing !
Would love you're comment....
Hi Sam, great podcast! I've noticed you have some STG keychains on the desk but they're not on the website for purchase? Will they be added to the website soon? Many thanks!
SUVs are 4/5 cars in one. Even if you have the money, some people can’t be arsed to run and maintain 3 cars to cater for each role. Personally, I’ve got just the regular X5 30d. Plenty fast enough
Talking about underlooked alternative, what about the velar SV A, ive ever only seen one. They're bonkers looking
You like the defender because you agree with the fashion statement it provides. You dislike the G wagon because you disagree with the fashion statement it provides
Mercedes GLE63 AMG. No not that stupid coupe. Just the successor of the ML. Such a great car and forgotten.
A shame you guys can't get the Dodge Durango SRT Hellcat over there. That thing is a ridiculous monster.
Q7 if you have 3 kids!
If I ran a large radio station I would be offering you two squillions to come and present the motoring show. It’s really good stuff.