ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT by St Anselm (TAGLISH)

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  • @xandragonist
    @xandragonist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To summarize:
    1. God - Highest quality of being any man can imagine (the BEST possible thing we can imagine)
    2. Things can exist in reality or in imagination.
    3. Things that are in reality are better than imagination.
    2. To create the highest quality of being ,God not only should exist in the mind and in reality din dapat, para masabi natin na highest being siya. So, pag ang God, nag exist lang sa imagination ng tao ibig sabihin hindi siya highest. So para maprove natin ang meaning na HIGHEST of all things dapat mag exist siya sa real world. THEREFORE GOD IS TRUE
    If ganto yung reasoning natin to prove the existence of something or someone, we can totally use this to prove other beings or other things. Like aliens and santa claus. In this case gamitin natin yung Atlantis.
    By definition Atlantis is the most advance and the highest civilization.
    1. Atlantis - Highest quality of city any man can imagine (the BEST possible city we can imagine)
    2. Things can exist in reality or in imagination.
    3. Things that are in reality are better than imagination.
    2. To create the highest quality of city ,Atlantis not only should exist in the mind and in reality din dapat, para masabi natin na advance, highest possible kind of city siya. So, pag ang Atlantis, nag exist lang sa imagination ng tao ibig sabihin hindi siya highest. So para maprove natin ang meaning na HIGHEST of all cities ang Atlantis dapat mag exist siya sa real world.
    However Anselm said it only applies in necessary beings not things, by this magkakaroon tayo ng fallacy (fallacy means flawed argument) called "begging the question". Ibig sabihin ginagamit mo yung argument mo bilang definition ng premise mo. Na ginawa sa ontological argument. I'm open for new learnings please feel free to reply. I want to learn that this reasoning maybe flawed too.

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean special pleading? The only problem with Anselm’s argument is that “existence” is not a great making property. Begging the question is not the problem because it is true by definition (analytically) it’s like questioning if “triangle” indeed has three sides, or if “bachelor” is indeed unmarried man.

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      1. Atlantis - Highest quality of city any man can imagine (thr Best possible city we can imagine)
      - No you can imagine a greater city than atlantis, you need put forward the qualities of this so called atlantis. The same way my example went (deistic and the Christian God)

    • @xandragonist
      @xandragonist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit Ah yes po. About the definition po naman, like i guess it is a bad comparison since "triangle - has three sides" but existence is not a definition of a triangle. Kaya po siya begging the question dahil nag assume na po tayo agad na ang EXISTENCE ay kasama sa meaning ng "HIGHEST BEING". Nice vid po pala natututo din ako :).

    • @xandragonist
      @xandragonist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit fall short, haha then if i can imagine higher advance city diba it will fall also to the argument that it should exist since sabi sa argument it should be real to be the highest

    • @xandragonist
      @xandragonist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The point is you can and anyone can prove anything exist using ontological argument :)

  • @albert-cq9fh
    @albert-cq9fh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Educational... deserve 101 million views. The great awakening is coming continue what you're been doing presenting the side and purpose of God.

  • @whisking6361
    @whisking6361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks. this really help. muntik na ako ma convert. Pero ng napakinggan ko ito. medyo bumalik. Thanks!! so GOD really exist.

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats good news sir! Soli Deo Gloria!

    • @michimaru9023
      @michimaru9023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you need to discover God by yourself, enjoy the trip away from atheism

    • @jovnathanielmaratas6503
      @jovnathanielmaratas6503 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michimaru9023 dami nyo alam it’s a matter of belief, di nyo namn talaga alam lol

    • @michimaru9023
      @michimaru9023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jovnathanielmaratas6503 care to explain?? di yung puro dada lang alam mo

    • @michimaru9023
      @michimaru9023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jovnathanielmaratas6503 puro ka satsat di mo nga rin alam sinasabi mo

  • @stanvalencia7416
    @stanvalencia7416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Michael, I came across youre channel and I was pleasantly surprised and equally impressed by the breadth and width of your knowledge of Philosophy, Logic, and Metaphysics.
    Full disclosure- I am an agnostic atheist. In this video, are you merely explaining Anselm's Ontological argument or are you in fact defending it? I will be in the Philippines sometime in early to mid 2022 and would welcome the chance of meeting someone with your depth of understanding of abstract concepts.

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello sir, Im just explaining Anselm’s ontological argument, this video stemmed from AJP’s failure to explain it clearly, it looked like it’s difficult to grasp on his video but the argument is simpler than it’s been presented by AJP.

  • @normanabrerajr.7539
    @normanabrerajr.7539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jesus Christ is Lord ☝🏼 , Keep it up sir 👏🏼

  • @markvincentordiz3746
    @markvincentordiz3746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how bout suma theologica analysis..

  • @spaceman975
    @spaceman975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Go Sir! I support you po kahit kaunti lang nanonood sa inyo. Di ko gets yung kay Anselm pero kay Plantinga okay na okay

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Salamat sir!

    • @spaceman975
      @spaceman975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit talk a lot about Philosophy po hehe, matinding kalaban ng mga atheist yan. Kaya si Richard Dawkins di nakikipag debate sa mga Philosophers

    • @vanessac0382
      @vanessac0382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yung kay anselm KC pag sinabi mong God, May idea ka na agad sa utak mo na omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresent. Kc kung walang properties ang God na yun. Mag-i-imagine ka lang lagi ng mas greater sa concept na naisip mo

    • @vanessac0382
      @vanessac0382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit philosophy professor po ba kayo

    • @spaceman975
      @spaceman975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vanessac0382 thanks for the explanation. But have you watch this? th-cam.com/video/CXRa8orKf0k/w-d-xo.html
      It's amazing!

  • @legit6930
    @legit6930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally may gumawa nrn vlog pra linawin ang mga mali paniniwala ng atheist. Keep it up kama-atis. Dpat gnito blog gngwa ng mga catholic ska muslim hndi yung muslim ska catholic nglalaban sa pniniwala eh isa lng nmn pnananiwalaan ntn na may GOD the creator of all.

  • @theoldtv385
    @theoldtv385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Part of the problem with this argument is when we consider a maximally great being that is Omnipotent and Omniscient like the Christian god. It fails badly.

  • @carlocariaga3253
    @carlocariaga3253 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dec 2023 👋

  • @Noname-tq7fu
    @Noname-tq7fu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video! Salamat boss.

  • @Mjajc
    @Mjajc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand. You mentioned your Facebook page like thrice now but it doesn't show up in my Facebook's search function (I tried in the browser and the app).

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Click on the description sir! The facebook page is therr...

    • @Mjajc
      @Mjajc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit Okay thanks, I just tried it now. This might sound stupid but what happens when you click the Facebook link in the video's description ? Does it lead to your page ? Does your page shows up ? Can you please try it now ?

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes sir, I think so, it will lead to my page

  • @whoareyou401
    @whoareyou401 ปีที่แล้ว

    Critical thinking

  • @whisking6361
    @whisking6361 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    sana masagot. anong brand ng speaker mo sa likod?

  • @tonskytv5948
    @tonskytv5948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir parequest naman po. review nung nagtanong si aldomovar kay eli soriano. salamat po sana manotice po.

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try ko po sir, hanapin ko po yung video... thanks po for watching!

    • @tonskytv5948
      @tonskytv5948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      maraming salamat po sir. sana po tuloy tuloy na contents nyo.

    • @rigelkent8828
      @rigelkent8828 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit napanood nyo na po sir Michael?

  • @maohalim2943
    @maohalim2943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir may tanong po ako, may personal po ba kayong galit kay athiest joy?

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Personal? I dont even know him personally, bad arguments are still bad arguments even if your dad was rhe one who made it.

    • @maohalim2943
      @maohalim2943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit salamat sa pag sagot😊 ask lang sir
      *tungkol sa philosopy ang kaalaman na ibinabahagi mo, may kaalaman ka rin po ba tungkol sa physics?🙈
      *maraming salamat sa kaalaman, sana ay may mga history ka ding ibahagi...

  • @rhanymorgadomalla3728
    @rhanymorgadomalla3728 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video

  • @theoldtv385
    @theoldtv385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which god??

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are confusing ontology and epistemology… asking “does God exist?” Is a different question from “which God?” Learn the difference. Thanks!

    • @theoldtv385
      @theoldtv385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of god exists?

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you a program repeating the same question and ignoring the comment made to you? Or you dont care about your error? Just interested on your own questions? Ok, if that is the case… then goodluck!

    • @theoldtv385
      @theoldtv385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just want to know about god and I think you're an expert.

  • @vanessac0382
    @vanessac0382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For sure, nahihilo pa din si ajp dito😁

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hahahaha ganyan lang po kasimple kaya kong ipaliwanag eh... kapag nahilo parin xa ewan ko na lang

    • @vanessac0382
      @vanessac0382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit philosophy prof po ba kayo o self taught?

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im a nobody po...

    • @vanessac0382
      @vanessac0382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit wow! May pa mystery effect 😁

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hehe... Hindi po mystery effect yan... Im literally a nobody po...

  • @jayarulopinoytv9227
    @jayarulopinoytv9227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wag mong tanggalin Yung comment Kung Alam mong nasa Tama ka at nakay God ka..Hindi masagot ni joymonyo Yung tanong ko Kung Hindi sya naniniwala sa dios bakit Hindi sya makipagtalik sa kadugo nya diba hahah 🤣🤣

  • @jovnathanielmaratas6503
    @jovnathanielmaratas6503 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another question psychologist ka ba or psychopath 🤡🤣🤣🤣

  • @jovnathanielmaratas6503
    @jovnathanielmaratas6503 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eto na lang tanong ko evangelical ka ba? If yes it says a lot

  • @vanessac0382
    @vanessac0382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video deserve more views

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks sir!

    • @vanessac0382
      @vanessac0382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit boss, kelan ulit yung debate nyo ni mocking Jay are just curious? Nag enjoy ako dun ah. Medyo May pagka inconsistent lang sya. Sabi nya sana daw maulit, medyo matagal na din pala yung last nyong debate👍

    • @rigelkent8828
      @rigelkent8828 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit oo nga sir dapat sana mag trending yung channel mo kasi you educate us well. Pero honestly, medyo nahihirapan pa akong ma grasp yung mga jargon sa philo 😅

  • @jovnathanielmaratas6503
    @jovnathanielmaratas6503 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crush nya si atheist Joy Philippines 🤣🤣 never ka sasagutin nyan di ka nyan type loo

    • @michimaru9023
      @michimaru9023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahaahhaha this is a kind of funny comment, although balik ka sa page pag may utak kana ah

    • @hulya804
      @hulya804 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michimaru9023 lol 😆

  • @richardbetorio2663
    @richardbetorio2663 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buti may open comment kna din sa wakas,gusto ko lang sabihin na ang babaw mo kamatis,astang magaling ka lang ang labo naman

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beautiful argument… oh wait… there’s none! Happy ranting!

  • @zurielph8293
    @zurielph8293 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pumayat ka ata, kuya! 😄

  • @edeltomines
    @edeltomines 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha debunking Juno, pero tinuturn off comments ng mga videos 😅
    Anong kinakatakot mo sa comments section? 😅

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Astig eh noh... dito kung san ka nag comment ang reason ng turned off na comment section... panoorin mo sa may bandang end... punta ka sa page ko araw araw may party don! Don ka magingay :)

    • @edeltomines
      @edeltomines 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit Malamang. Dito open comment section eh. Bat dimo masagot tanong ko haha

    • @edeltomines
      @edeltomines 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit Atleast si Atheist Joy open ang comment section. Ikaw duwag HAHAHA

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sinagot na nga kita! Panoorin mo tong video na to sa may bandang dulo nandon ang dahilan kung bakit naka-off comment section.. paulit ulit, kung g na g ka gawa ka video tapos send mo dito sasagutin kita

    • @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
      @KaMAtisAnalysisUnit  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yung idol mo bukas comment section pero hnd sumasagot, mas malala yun dude... 1 year na comments ko sa kanya!