Everything wrong with the mighty Toyota Landcruiser 300 | Auto Expert John Cadogan
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- Toyota has had 14 long years to get the upcoming 300 Series right. I don't think it's even close (but they'll probably sell heaps). Once again, the Big T cements its position in the industry as the King - of mediocrity.
Toyota is drip-feeding information incrementally to whip up ongoing media interest - and the media, thanks to bad incentives and a short attention span, is just lapping it up. Nobody is calling them out on this ... such is the appeal of that fat stream of advertising cash.
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"If you want to go into the Australian Outback, take a Land Rover. But if you want to come back again, take a Land Cruiser.”
If you want to drive offroad and make it through to where you're going, take a Land Rover. If you want to hit a bump and spill your Starbucks on your crotch, take a Land Cruiser.
I stopped listening after "King of Mediocrity"
Toyota makes the best vehicles on the planet, pound-for-pound. You know nothing.
Fan-boy.
such a huge seller in America
@@AutoExpertJC You forgot "viscous" fan-boy 😅
I don't care if the Toyota legion is getting offended, you could have told the truth about any other brand, but I honestly haven't laughed that much at a TH-cam video probably ever 🤣 Thank you 👍🏻
@@AutoExpertJC aren't you a BMW fanboy? Have some shame
Lmao explain Toyotas scams, poor over pricing, and shit value for money. Fanboy
Dont be a hater Johnny these will sell like hotcakes
Selling more doesn't necessarily make something better.
@@the80386 Still better than a BMW. They have horrendous resale value.
@@labourlawact7826 that doesnt make it a better vehicle. The points here are how outdated much of this car is or how stupid toyota customers for buying old shit and paying a lot.
High resale just means lots of dumb folks willing to buy it…
Thats true for many goods though and doesnt make them particularly good.
@@labourlawact7826 why compare it to bmw? compare it to the similar Y62 Patrol which is better and cost effective.
Dubious about it. They have killed V8 its like in relation to dick size, chopping it wouldn't be a good Idea.
John you can really talk some crap about a car that you haven't even driven yet.
Here's the thing, genius: nobody outside Toyota has driven it yet. You understand this, right. The only difference between me and every other so-called journalist posting about this vehicle is: I'm not sucking Toyota's dick over it.
Im really thinking John will never ever be successful. Your language and demeanor is plain ridiculous
@@02hreblue30 That's not even mediocre, as trolling goes. Try harder.
@linkzable Show me an Australian journalist test driving an Australian-spec LC300 in Australia. Pro tip, genius: I'm not criticising how it drives. I'm criticising the merits of being an early adopter. Do try to keep up.
@@AutoExpertJC I wonder what motivates one to personally attack another human being over his opinions on an automobile... Lack of engineering credentials? General need for corporate bootlicking? Developmental disability? Keep up the good work, Sir. I don't live in Oz but your insights into the industry are crystal clear.
Their selling point is reliability. And people who bought it just because of that. If I want to rob a bank, I'd rather be in that Lamd Cruiser than the unreliable Range Rover.
Lolz as a mechanic I'm with you. Range Rover better make their cars for Christmas cuz of all the lights on the dash with their over engineering. The things iv seen and heard about those over price unreliable cars is unbelievable.
if u cant be in a LC on ur way to robbery, why would u rob then
like the fact that toyota cant even get the air box build correctly.
@@SH-ix8rx LOL i'm with you as well mate as a mechanic of 25 years. You service Toyotas and repair everything else. Of course there are exceptions. Nothing is ever perfect. Don't forget the Snapped crankshafts in Land Rovers and every other problem under the sun. A lot of people don't understand why Toyotas are the best. Because they're not professionals in the trade. But they'll ignore the blatantly obvious signs right in front of their eyes......like looking at what the oldest cars on the road are. Mostly Toyotas.
@@jimbojones2457 So basically the only metric worth going by is how long the car will last? Driving around in a 30 year old Toyota isn't the flex you might think.
I don't think you ever have anything positive to say about any car really. just walk or get the bus if you don't like it champ, not a LandCruiser owner either before you use that predictable dad joke narrative
Yeah he's peanut hey
Dont know his perspective.LC's can last for 15 years of off roading.And i am from India.
I dont think so.As for the stress on a V6 engine,most of the heavy duty trucks haul 45-50 tons for years are mostly 6 cylinders turbo charged diesel engines.Volvo and Scania for example.A V8 twin turbo LC 200 was basically 2007 technology.Today the engine blocks and the cylinders are made out of different quality hardened material.This has been incorporated into the LC 300.And i have seen the Arabs(Great drivers)swearing for the land cruiser when they do dune bashing.They would not prefer anything less.Check out the tug of war between a Land cruiser and any other 4WD including the Range rover and Jeep rubicon.Due to better traction control,the land cruiser wins on most counts except for a few germans like the Mercedez or Audi.A 5.7 LC made 381 BHP with 53 Newton metres of torque.The difference in the size of the engine is almost 2200 cc's plus two extra cylinders.That is huge.
Appreciate your knowledge abt engineering.However,we are talking about toyota engines.A range rover diesel develops 240 bhp and it is a inline 4 cylinder.It weighs 2.4 tons.Here i am talking not about a V8 5.0 litre supercharged engine.And if you say it is hyped up,then the person carrying out the tug of war is himself an engineer and a car expert of over 25 years.And if toyota's engines have deteriorated ovet the last 15 years,then i would like to hear about a company which is producing a better quality cars.I am not trying to prove a point here.The Japanese after being bombed out twice in 1945,still make stuff which is the best in the world.This does not go for cars only.Sony,JVC,Toyota,Nissan,Mitsubishi...you name it and they are right up there.This is one the prime reasons that they have a trade surplus with most countries.And the land cruiser LC 300....it weighs 200 kilos less than the old V8..Lighter weight means better acceleration.Correct me if i am wrong..It also means better mileage.Oil is finite commodity.Even the US inspite of having huge oil reserves imports crude from the gulf.Think about it sonetimes.One of the reasons for toyota to downsize its engines from 5.7 to 3.5 twin turbo petrol and 3.3 turbo diesel is to match the emmision standards and not just blindly produce gas guzzling cars.It is not all about power but also about economy and providing practical grounded solutions to the current situations.No wonder even their neighbours like Russia apart from India acknowkedge them as technical masters.
@@Countrysideboy247.I do not own a toyota but have relatives and friends who bought Fortuner and even Camry.And also an afghan friend who gives some feedbacks on how the talibans use the land cruisers.I admit that if it is a matter of engines,then problems will happen.It is an engine after all.But the feedback is generally positive.Inspite of technical difficulties,they are proud owners.A 2755 cc turbo diesel fortuner is rated highly because of its off roading performance where traction control and differential locks are i required.I have seen more than a few times a fortuner puts a 3.2 litre ford endeavour in shade.The indian 4WD's try hard but in vain.The second vehicle.....a mitsubishi Pajero inter cooled diesel...As reliable as a Land cruiser and it is a 2010 model.But if it is a V8 toyota...that is a different league.It is a kind of status for even the Senior Ministers.The problems are not talked about.Because they are far in between.
One thing i've never understood is how so many folks can afford a fully loaded and ARB modded $150K Landcruiser. Both my wife and i have no kids and earn very good money, but that's way above our league. Debt must be truly rampant.
Once those interest rates go up in a few years those repo guys are going to be flat out.
Once you're free of religion, free of politics, free of debt and free of big tech then you're truly free.
I have pondered that same question many times as well.
I would say most are related to businesses and are tax deductable.
Whether they are actually used for business purposes, may be debatable.
I know right. I have wondered the same thing myself.
What if reliability is what people pay the premium for?
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Exactly! If your over- lander broke down you would probably die out in the wilderness. This turbo better be as dependable as that 5.7 V8.
A Y62, there’s your answer. Just as reliable and a way better car
@@NathanJ-E lmao illiterate! Lc300 will just sh#t on y62
@@Countrysideboy247 lmao illiterate. Many owners? Still that didn't make in the analysis list of 300+ miles cars, let alone being in the most reliability chart
Owned a 100 Sahara diesel for 15 year, never missed a beat, served my growing family well, we saw a lot of Australia in comfort, did all the towing we needed with ease, sold it with great pride to a new owner at over 300k, relative to other cars lost very little in depreciation over its life with us, for the size of the car it was great on fuel, and I would bet it is still getting around today doing what it does best. Made once, made well, being fit for purpose for a lot longer than five years other competing products last for. I would say in my humble opinion that a cruiser is actually a thinking man, or woman’s car. One of the best cars I have ever owned.
Couldn't agree more. Not sure what old mate is going on about.
Yep I am on my fourth land cruiser which is a 2019 Sahara, all of my previous LC’s sold at a premium price with minimal depreciation compared to the average vehicle and that is one thing that an LC does better than a Nissan Patrol. As good as they are they just don’t hold their price like the Toyota. CD in the dash? Thats a also a DVD player which allows us to entertain our grand children in a controlled fashion on trips away dragging our three and a half tonne effluent carrier as John so delicately puts it. By the way John whilst we are on that subject for people like me whom spend six months of the year living in hotel rooms the thought of spending valuable holiday time in yet another covid breeding ground is beyond the pail hence the effluent carrier. Why the 200 instead of waiting for the 300 you might ask? The 200 series has had 14 years of development and real world testing which means that all of its early faults have been dealt with so when I am in the middle of the great fuck all I can be reasonably confident that I am not going to have any technical issues with it and if I did there will parts available locally or at least within 24 hours. This may not be the case with the new V6 which is undoubtedly going to be a more highly stressed engine which could be an issue and the parts for it and the new drive train may take some time to filter out to the dealers . If you look up reliable in a thesaurus one of the alternatives is “ Toyota” which means a lot out in the GFA or even Double Bay for all I know.
This guy is an expert on his own channel.
But they were the good ones weren't they that you had, I think he's talking about and he's just pissed off that they've downgraded some things but put the price up even more
@@JayJay-gl2df no he is just a man on a rant, he truly doesnt know much about cars and 4x4's, he only knows how to trash talk them, saying things like questioning why a brand new 4x4 engine with latest tech comes with a viscous fan?! That is elementary knowledge to 4x4 vehicle design..(toyota keep the viscous fan because an electric fan will fail going through water crossings, which is a pretty standard thing to do offroad). The guy is a tool and doesnt know much at all.
Whilst you make some good points sometimes I can’t take your delivery anymore, I almost wish someone would condense it into the comments section so I can just read the facts without the BS sometimes. The comedy attempts/routines are tiring and detracts from your knowledge and expertise unfortunately. All the best Jon…
My sentiments exactly.
I AGREE, GETTING TOO MUCH.
Yeh i wish he would make some of his videos more as informative as we want the information sometimes without all of the comedy.
Totally Agree!
I long since gave up on his videos because of the FIGJAM, immature, amateur comedian delivery. It is just intolerably tiresome. Like, in this video, what is the ratio of grandstanding to useful information...?
My 62 series still rocks! Doesn't break down, does what its supposed to do.
Touché
😂🤣🤣👏👏👏👏👏
Same mate, my 62 runs like a dream, don’t listen to all the hate
@Samuel Jesse Jonah I meant the 62 series as in the fj62
No CD player though eh.
A wise bloke once said, do you know what a genuine Toyota bullbar is?... It's where Landcruiser & Hilux owners drink. Glad to see they kept the alternator on the V6 lowdown to scoop up the mud and crap like the V8... I wonder if Toyota will make the front axle track width shorter to compensate for the smaller engine
I wonder where they have hidden the starter motor this time?
Em fokers still haven't changed anything on kdss this damn system is really crap and all land cruisers equipped are always driving inclined lol
The only thing I like about John is honesty. As much as I love the Land Cruiser, there are no lies detected in this video. Besides all that, I still have the Cruiser on my to buy list one of these days, but I have no illusions about its shortcomings/negatives. I will be buying it for its strengths.
Keep up the great work you doing Sir.
John, I don't know why, but this report bored me. Good night.
You watching it, he wins
@@MAXTEDFING yes, true, but I’m watching far less of John now. Once he crossed into politics and climate change, my interest in his channel waned. I’m interested in the 300 series and John’s sentiment, unfortunately it was oh so predictable and a bit of a bore. Hence, I’ve moved to other channels.
@@2loco More time, More Ads, More $$$ from TH-cam.
@@dpd6401 1 less bogan watching the channel….damn
@@dpd6401 other channels huh? Reputable titles such as "Babes Beers and V8 action" or the equally as informative "Tatts, Sheila's and 4x4 Straya" perhaps? Both are excellent alternatives to this Channel that bores bogans to sleep with educational facts stat's and information, confusing big words and humorous word play. Certainly no place in this country for such informative and entertaining content!
The 2nd hand prices on the V8s have gone crazy !
Toyota's main goal is to make money, what's wrong with designing a car to sell? Why would they give people something that they don't want?
You can't argue with their logic, their track record speaks for itself.
The dig at the CD player was just a good 'gap filler', who cares that it has one? If you don't like it, don't use it.
I can sniff butt-hurt. Landcruiser owner?
Yes..make one to sell but to who given the changing world market dynamics? I doubt Aus sales will be enuf to sustain the 300s for long...unless of course the Feds keep subsidising diesels to buy tradie votes...ie..300s for the wife...79s for hubby etc
@@AutoExpertJC i am a Landcruiser owner, not butt hurt, laughing at the new offering from the big T. I will now sell and make money on my used effluent towing 300,000 km 200 series V8 and use the money to fly my new chopper to DPC for holidays 😂.
I wish my car still had a CD player.
Or they charge you extra for
I always stretch John’s vids out an extra 8-10 minutes, it’s a nice way to extend the entertainment. As a 70’s year old in the US I have to have my calculator (and conversion chart) handy so I can stop the vid and figure out what the HP and TQ figures are in my lingo.
How endlessly entertaining.
I put the playback speed to 0.75. That gives me............25% more video and enough time to finish my pint of bitter.
Try it at 0.5 playback speed, makes him sound stoned out of his mind.
@@billharris3650 - best to listen to Cadogan at 1.75 speed, that way he sounds so energetic and full of beans.
@@AutoExpertJC By that age, he should have factors of conversion memorized?
I don’t think this guy has studied the LC300 well before presenting this video. Btw I recommend to watch this video with 1.25x speed.
Sounds like he's been smashing the cans before filming.
bro, your comment isnt written very well. Have another go.
@@bjones5240 Sorry. I must have drunken.
I recommend not watching it at all.
John , The Toyota Landcruiser was originally built and marketed towards the Agricultural field , mining and heavy work . The vehicle was not built for the "bogan" market , but seriously for hard work only . This Landcruiser should only be assessed for the "market" it was designed for . Brilliant vehicle , Toyota.
Not the bogan market, the Toorak (insert whatever state equivalent) market so they can take junior to the school drop off half a block from home, and try to insert the beast into tiny carpark bays at Myers.
The corolla was originally a small car, now almost a large car. LandCruiser wagons now oil sheik and other multi millionnair mode of transport
Sod off, he probably doesn't like them because he knows he would have to sit in a booster seat just to see over the dash 😂
more pipsqueaks drive them than big blokes!
🤣🤣🤣🤣😜
@@NicholasCox85 Bog blokes drive Yaris.
Actually being made in Japan, anyone over 6 ft will probably be hitting their head on the roof
I am seriously missing the glass telephone.
It's always in the last place you look...
"If you think a CD collection is actually superior to having 2,000 songs in a phone on a chip smaller than a postage stamp arranged in neat playlists to suit the mood then kindly consider carefully the impact of this kind of thinking on future generations... A frigging CD player. That just takes the cake, doesn't it? The outdated cake." (18:18 -- 18:53)
Well said John. Btw, what's a postage stamp?
I prefer the soft warm feeling of CD and sliding it into that tiny slit in anticipation of what's to come.
I love your videos, I am 70 years old, I have owned 7 toyotas , I paid good money for them, they went endlessly, never broke down, and I sold them years later for good money. I don't have to think, I will just buy another Toyota. Honest they are very reliable and nice to drive. Also there is a competition to how many gears you can put into a gearbox.
In their defense, Lexus used to offer cassette players for the longest time. The reason? A HUGE amount of buyers were listening to audiobooks, and I'm guessing the same is true with the CD player. Now why these people can't stream in the Land Cruiser is beyond me.
That said, Land Cruisers in America, selling for $80K USD or more, are treated like mechanical Jesuses. You can't say anything against them.
Yeah i have a Lexus and the CD player is very high quality. I use CD's on occasion. Unlike the Subaru i had though it doesn't display the names of songs from CD . The Subaru accessed a data base and displayed the track names and details even if the CD did not contain the display data. The Lexus doesn't do this unfortunately.
No, you can't
That's not the reason, the reason is that most old people buy toyota
I look forward to a review of an actual car and not the press releases, that will have far more credibility than this.
Fan-boy. No specific criticism, then...
@@AutoExpertJC probably "butthurt" hey John
@@AutoExpertJC OK, you are making a video telling us about a car which you haven't seen and haven't driven so I am saying that a proper review of the car after you have seen and driven it will be far more credible than today's effort. OK?
Johns a car review comedian, not a car reviewer! His approach is humorous neurotic criticism, using a sample of, ahem, facts.
@@calculusmetal he was a motoring journo/editor reviewing new cars for at least 20 yrs that I recall reading
I hear that Banjo music is only available on CD, No other device will allowed it to be stored on, or will will self destruct if attempted to store it on a modern device.
you win the internet this week
Haha, we have a Prius and a LandCruiser, known in our household as the Prius and the anti-Prius.
Mr. Cadogan, as a professional mechanic for 10+ years and being a 'shade mechanic' for basically my entire 50+ years of life, I very much appreciate and am very amused by your observations and opinions. -from 'merika.
But it's Toyota, John. Toyota is world-renowned for their quality and reliability from the Corolla to the Camry. Sure their cars might be square but then again it's hip to be square!
Hip hip! Hip Everywhere! Hip hip! Hip to be square!
Camry and Corolla models are the equivalent of automotive whitegoods. Essentially just a rolling appliance.
Despite all this, I’ll bet my left teste it continues to sell successfully like it always has. After all, the best engine Toyota ever built was a 6 cylinder (1HDFTE)
V6 vs straight 6 ... very different engine types
@@nuggetBrahh yeah the v6 can be made stronger and lighter because the crank isnt as long but i will still take a 1hdfte over the v6.
It's also about bonnet length and visibility off roading
Not even close. The best engine toyota ever built was the legendary 2JZ.
Is this video a “how to be smug” tutorial?
@@emergingit maybe he cant own a Land Cruiser thats why he is bitter
I wonder if the CD player is the same as the one in my 98 Corolla?
Nope. It's older. 😀
Who cares? You’re buying it for the drivetrain, not the music player
Sad that you feel you have to be a bogan to appreciate a V8.
I feel as though over the last year or so this channel has gone from being an information hub with a comical twist to a total bag fest. If it isn't Kia or Hyundai it gets bombed from every direction. Good for an occasional laugh but dont take anything he has to say anymore seriously its all about the views not the quality of content.
@@ZeroVelocity1 Not so. John is very much along side Subaru, Mazda, Lexus and BMW - allegiance purely based on how well they look after customers after the sale in service. I think KIA and Hyundai are just easier to get along with re test cars and communications - he's simply in favour of companies that do right by customers - isn't that what we want form a YT motor channel?
shit I'll appreciate a V1 if it's 3 foot wide.
@@ZeroVelocity1 I've seen him give props to companies with good customer service even after reviewing a car he didn't like, so I don't buy anyone's claims of bias. The butthurt of Toyota fanbois is almost as strong as it is with Elon Musk's throng of minions; the number of personal attacks in this particular video's comments section is disgusting.
I’d take one with a tape deck . Enjoyed your banter
Using Toyota land cruiser Prado version for five years. Smooth as velvet. No troubles....
This new 300 will just make cars like my 80 series wagon worth even more .... thanks toyota !!😂
Being in the car industry for 30+ years, I know Toyota buyers will sleep walk into buying the new cruiser without question. They will go down in history with 4cyl VC and ZB commodore buyers, and Ford Falcon Ecoboost buyers in the future scratching their heads as to "why ?"
Giant vehicle + tiny engine ? That generally equates to a problem, no matter how many kw's or torque. 10 speed ? that will just be a CVT feel.
Good honest review John. 5 stars
Falcon Ecoboost is a rocket
Well this comment didn't age well.....
John, just out of curiosity. What's your daily driver?
Brakes from a camry
Loose door panels
Loose glove box
Seat stitching by a 5 year old
Throttle takes 2 seconds to even think of responding
Same old garbage
Way overpriced at the dealer
In this case all new land and rang rovers, G class and many others are useless.They still have their customers that love and enjoy having them maybe less than before because of the variety of SUVs now. We should wait and see how good they really are compare to the old ones, then maybe we can judge better.
This car is super good. It will outsell all other luxury SUVs in Africa, the Middle East and Asia . And yes I still need my CD slot.
Do you own one?
Looking forward to the day John finally comes out and admits he owns one of those sewerage carriers
He's still in the (water) closet.
If you want to be a comedian get on a stage .
What a croc of shit .Everyone wanting to know what to expect and you sneer and turn your nose up at it before you even drive one !!’Toyota landcruiser have never bought out a new model without it being better than the old one I’ll miss my tailgate though !!
@@chrisfitzgerald1555 John's a BMW fanboy...
@@labourlawact7826 ...who owns a Kona hybrid
@@MrTaxiRob Yep. He can't afford one, but absolutely love the cars he reviews. Probably drives the shit out of them too. It's not his worry that the BMW is an endless money pit car.
More power more torque than the old V8. Less weight and a modern 10 speed gearbox. And the rear seat row stores under the floor like the Kluger. It’s a win win win can’t wait to pick mine up.
They have not said 'less weight' - just that the body and chassis are lighter. Let's see what the all-up weight is. And they've had 14 years to figure out how to stow the row 3 seats (like every other carmakers manages) so let's not be treating that like a friggin' miracle.
@@AutoExpertJC I thought they actually stipulated 200kg less than the 200 series, mainly through a different welding process which now requires less metal for reinforcement.
@@Derrick84100 yes both chassis and body structure were reinforced and extensive use of aluminium, the v6 is also way lighter.
How fairly new 200 has no CD player in it I think you may be eating your words soon John
Oh, so John is saying the chassis is 200kg lighter, but maybe not the overall car..
Easy on the CD crowd please John some of us like our original untainted masters of the first 3 ZZ Top records.
Tamlyn Dalton. Amen, to that.
Every girl crazy 'bout a sharp-dressed man, man.
@@AutoExpertJC indeed but it's that Brown Sugar I'm talking about.
I purchased a LC200 one week before seeing this video. No 300 coming to us in the USA. Laughed my ass off at this video and couldn’t agree more with everything he said. Still thrilled with my purchase anyway. I bet that CD player will still be working a decade after Tesla’s center console flickers and fails.
Hard to really judge a new model until you have lived with one for a while.
I dream of testing this using the scientific method, and Naomi Campbell.
@@AutoExpertJC I am waiting for your tongue in cheek appraisal , your sense of humour is awesome and livens up a sometimes mundane day.
To be fair the 6 cylinder 4.2 litre diesel still sells for a premium secondhand
Hands down the best engine family. V8 pos was the biggest thirstiest disappointment. Glad i never wanted one
Theres GQ's going for 20-25k at the moment... anything is selling for a premium at moment.
The 4.5 v8 is a fantastic motor. Whats wrong with them ?
@@ttomred4000 fantastic motor? Hardly. Single turbo 1VD was no better than the 1HD it replaced. The twin turbo offered more power but nothing out of the reach of the 1HD. They would have been far better off making a common rail inline 6. When your little V8 gets outdone towing in fuel consumption by the yanks, youve fucked up somewhere.
@@liamcooper5202 mate you better drive a 1hdtfte and come back to us
I don’t get the hate, you’ve called it a shitbox but the 300 is superior in almost every metric over the 200. has better power/torque figures, better fuel economy/efficiency, has all the technology expected in a modern luxury vehicle including lane assist and even a heads up display. The only thing that other vehicles can compete on is price. It’s bloody expensive but that’s because the land cruiser is simply the toughest/most reliable/most capable vehicle on the market. The arabs only use land cruisers on their dune safaris and US special forces use them in Africa in active combat. Landcruisers don’t have the best technology, or the smoothest gear changes/driving experience. But they are not supposed to anyway. Id much rather Australians buy cruisers than buy BMWs Land rovers and Audis that just look nice and break all the time.
I know one thing the landcruiser can do that the nissan cant....get parts easily out in the middle of bum fuck no where. Sign me up for a nissan that'll take 6+ weeks for a fuel pump HELL YEAH BROTHER. (not a landcruiser owner, just someone who works on cars and often travels to middle of no where)
That’s strange. Where I am that’s not the case. But I’d rather all the benefits a patrol comes with and long waiting times than short times and a shitbox
Now now John, don't hide behind hyperbole and innuendo, tell us what you really think.
I love it.
Never mind the CD player, what about the stupid touchscreen sticking up out of the dash? They can't even engineer a properly integrated touchscreen? I would never buy any car with one of these
BTW, that “CD” player in the Sahara is a DVD player and while mine has never seen a CD, I have been surprised how often my sprogs have whacked a DVD in there for watching on the rear screen on long trips. Of course they are 30-ish now, so I guess they are well on the way to old guy Land Cruiser buying land where everyone loves V8s and sneers at the V6, and still watch DVDs.
I do appreciate the humour ;) I would like to say it is true, us ‘bogan’ landcruiser owners do love our outgoing V8, but with the 300 series going back to a 6 cylinder, it is in a way going back to its heritage. The 100 series had one petrol V8 option and the outgoing 200 series had only V8 options. But If you look back at the history of landcruiser wagons 55, 60 and 80 series were only 6 cylinder petrol and diesel.
I do also feel that there will always be a place for the landcruiser in Australia, they are built like tanks and give you a senses of security when the going gets tough. They are also built to last, we still see the old 1980s and 1990s landcruisers as common place on any Australian road, when everything else is long but gone to the scrap heap. I’m not sure how the eco hybrid or full electric competition would do in the dusty dirty muddy conditions these cars were built to operate on. Not to mention the Toyota support network, with dealers located all through regional ‘Straya’!
Enjoyed the video
Is the LC300 reliable with the new Infotainment and the turbo charged engine?
No one else on TH-cam could keep you captivate as much as you do. I mean you literally shat on for about 6 minutes about a CD player and I was captivated the entire time with your eloquent descriptions. Just an absolute ledge!
What see is what get.
At least it's not the European vehicle youtube clickbait youtube videos.
They place a good looking girly girl ☺ in front of the vehicle yet they don't include her in the youtube video or maybe even if they do - they don't show the woman for very long
I guess it's different in Australia; in the United States the Land Cruiser 200, which doesn't sell very well and is not going to be replaced, is usually purchased by somebody with quite a lot of money who doesn't wish to appear to have a lot of money simply because most people don't know what a Land Cruiser really is. And they never go off road
I was shocked to see that they sold for $90k plus over there, similar to the price down under!
So many other home-grown alternatives there, too - Escalades and the like, for successful pimps and gang bangers, etc.
@@AutoExpertJC yes however those things are all over the place; and everybody knows what they are. Land Cruiser is very rare here; and it only comes well Specked. So like I said not many people know what it is; it's for understated transportation
@@kevinbarry71
You must be parking under trees to have a well specked LC.
perhaps if it were better specced it would solve the bird problems
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@@JasonISF yes; they are quite expensive; a Sequoia is a better value in my opinion; same powertrain, more sophisticated suspension, bigger and quite a bit less expensive. But not available in Australia. As I said; here are the Land Cruiser is purchased by people with a lot of money who don't wish to show off. As I understand it they are quite often purchase for cash. People also know they will last for decades even with fairly heavy use. No Nissan is going to hold up to that
You know nothing about people hating the environment. Land cruiser owners love being outdoors in a reliable truck that is not overly flashy. Just elegant
Elegant? Should've gone to Specsavers...
The accessories on 4WD’s are a joke. To make these things capable to do what they are supposedly designed to do one has to spend an additional $20k on accessories. They are being built more and more for city school runs and upgrades are a necessity.
That's the point though: There's a disconnect between what they're designed to do, and what they're advertised to do.
@@spackle42 agreed
The very latest LandCruiser in 300 and 79 have diff locks now, they didn't before so serious 4wders fitted them. It all depends what you want to do. You can still get through a lot more impassable roads than a Camry can without a million lumens of spotlights, snorkel, bullbar, winch, compressor, CB radio, fridge, 37" mud tyres, 3" lift and recovery gear. Just like a 300kw performance car can do 0-100 in under 5 seconds without upgrading wheels, brakes, suspension, exhaust, turbo, cams, chip, catch can. People still do all that all the time though.
@@cruiser6260 If everyone runs 37" tires and you don't however, the wheel ruts everywhere become bullshit deep, too deep for 33". That's how I've seen it anyway.
Yeah nah Great review John- another reason they may have gone to the v6 is that they could rationalise and wack it in the Hilux that would really get the banjos dueling...
I'll believe that when I see it.
Yeah nah going to happen
@Samuel Jesse Jonah Ah Roothy
It's not much you spend on a car, it's how much you lose owning it.
Landcruisers have the best resale and that's why they buy them over other 4WDs
Here is one thing as requested. The 300 series with it's solid rear axle won't scrub out rear tyres like the Y62 IRS Neesan will while towing or heavily loaded. Please don't get upset, it's just called a fact, John.
Nice review. Are you going to look at the MG range soon? I'm a bit confused about the the "English" heritage but they are made in China by SAIC?
Who’d have thunk it, a middle aged little fella with a TH-cam channel knows better than the successful folk on their choice of vehicle, guess the billionaire Arabs have some explaining to do.
Nothing like knowing you can write off a Hyundai or Kia and still drive home, long live the King.
Did they cut out your sense of humour as a penalty, or is it a birth defect?
Arabs love Patrols don't they?
@@ericjohnson6802 Only when Toyota run out of stock.
Sat in one of them yesterday at the showroom. They have shrunk the interior space. The legroom is pretty bad for the passenger and second row seats. Third row is also very congested.
@@Kwatshivo yeah they had it side by side. The new one is definitely congested. Its the same opinion shared my some of my friends. But you have to worry only if your like 5.10 to 6ft or more
After watching these videos for so long, I'm left wondering.
Are there any main stream popular cars that JC does like? 🤔
"When you're on a good thing, stick to it!"
I’m sure that catch phrase was once used by Nokia during the release of the iPhone.
@@ansett7687 Mortein and Louie the Fly!
@@brucehewson5773 ah yeah, my point was that Nokia didn't see any point in developing a better phone then Apple, they just relied on their name....
Speaking of “wishing people would actually buy vehicles they need”, what’s with the proliferation of semi-permanent ‘roof top tents’ seemingly adorning every second 4WD ute/SUV I see? Is this the new homeless? And/or the ugly side of mortgage stress? Hell of a thing to carry around for one or two aspirational weekends away, once a decade…
Not only does nearly every roof top tent exceed the load rating for the roof structure, it's fun watching from behind as they try and negotiate windy roads at anything faster than a wombats waddle.
Roll-over Assistance Package :)
@@raygale4198 I’ve never understood why you’d want camp in the carpark…as many need to, with vehicles restricted from accessing a lot of camping areas.
@@raygale4198 I have a low-profile rooftop hard-shell tent. It's lower profile than a jerry can or the bank of spotlights I see so many sporting on their racks. It's well within the off-road roof carrying capacity, means my partner can tour with me comfortably and I don't have to drag 2 tonnes of camper-trailer behind. Not that hard to understand.
@@technopsychobedlam So you and your partner and the roof top tent weigh in under 200kG? That's the highest roof rating my admittedly poor research could find.
Got rid of my Ranger as it was developing into a money pit.
Windscreen getting close to replacement (not insurance claimable) $3k.
Adaptive Cruise control failed and was over $3k to get fixed.
Steering sensor was on the way out, new rack required, also very expensive.
It was coming up to 130 000kms, and was starting to use more fuel which suggests it was going to need new injectors soon. That would be in excess of $3k again.
I used to be a fan of diesels, but they are becoming increasingly more delicate, leaving petrols less expensive to keep.
Since we weren't offroading anymore or carting big loads, I bought a Tucson. I think I can afford to own that more.
Diesels are more fussy about fuel and maintenance with the added bolt on emission gear and turbos, all leading to a Russian roulette game with the bank accounts.
No more diesels for me now.
You are 100% correct John but while they continue to make these Cruisers very mechanically reliable and they hold a good resale value they will keep selling shitloads.
I heard the V8 diesel had injector issues, but I think that was mainly down to running poor quality fuel. Most I've seen fit a second fuel filter to avoid this.
I feel as if the deep lore of Dingo Piss Creek is being developed in as much detail as The Silmarillion. We'll need a "History of Dingo Piss Creek" by John Cadogan soon...
He does like telling a tale :)
I'm wondering if they're also planning on putting these engines in the j70, they might even give it some new headlights.
Nothing wrong with integrated CD players - take up next to no room, but lets us use our vast collection of CD-version books, radio shows (all the old Brit classics), and yes, even music, that we don't have in digitised form on our iPhones! Glad to see they haven't been obsoleted (excuse the verbification there) in the LC300.
I am a V8 70 series operator and I look forward to a smaller more efficient engine. Something's wrong when the Prado motor has more power and torque than a V8 LC.
You're not an 'operator'.
@@AutoExpertJC Sorry John. Mrs Smythe-Jones at Grammar school would no doubt have picked up on that one too. Driver. Got it.
I genuinely used to enjoy your reviews. Your same old same old style of humour (or attempts at) makes you impossible for me to watch any longer. I was interested in hearing your views as an engineer on this vehicle, but you appear to me to have an agenda of your own, that has less to do with actually providing viewers with unbiased, quality information. Get back to reviewing vehicles in an unbiased manner, as opposed to taking swipes at particular car enthusiast groups and/or caravan owners.
my thoughts exactly. Getting very hard to watch.
Yes it is mate. A lot of the people that choose to watch this particular review are going to be People that like LCs. And he is referring to them (his viewers) as bogans. Criticise the car by all means, but now he is so arrogant he is bagging out people. People (his audience) who just want to watch a review of a car by an engineer. I don’t get that.
Couldn't agree more not everyone wants to stay in dipshitsville resort on the gold coast they drive me mental , they are full of Cadogans which rhymes with Bogans how convenient.
@@frankvarga1502 His disrespect of the caravan segment of his viewers as usual is my main gripe not his review on the Land-cruiser which is probably justified
Obviously one of the 200 flock
Whoops on the editing lol...I'd still take a Landcruiser over a Range Rover.
I thought that FU was quite amusing.
A land rover should be lnclusive of a frontal lobotomy
@@AutoExpertJC Even better for me, that's right when TH-cam dropped a advertisment. That was quite the oral pilates session you had 😂
Really..our D4 cost 38k has adjustable air suspension, diff locks 250kw engine, 8 sleed auto, 11 speaker sound system, full leather, fold flat seats, 9 air bags etc etc n cost 38k. Mates 200s same year same k's has cost him over 100k and it drives like crap. The auto is rubbish and he can't drive in dust (dealer advice). I don't need suspension mods to tow as the air bags adjust automatically and for off road height...i hit a switch!!i IMHO 200s are a secod rate car. Running cost...mine no mods/repairs in 130 000ks...his..over 20k so far. Fuel use... his 23l/100ks towing...mine 17.5.
Do I hear a hint of jealousy? Of course not. Best not let anyone know that subconsciously you wish you had one, so lets deflect and misdirect. We don't want the blue singlet brigade to pile on. Lemmings anyone?
Looks like a stormtrooper helmet...
13:47 Apparently, wait for it, the fan is electronically controlled 😳
Wow, such innovation 🤣
So what? Those style fan clutches are used in heavy duty diesel applications.
@@callofdutyguy9
So what indeed
👍🦘JC I think the CD player is marketing genius due to the fact that it’s probably only the Barry Manilow CD owners that can afford to buy the new Queen, just a thought.
That's 100% what it is. Idiots and boomers who don't know how to use a phone app are the only people buying this thing. Idiots and boomers also double up as using cds in a brand new $100k car
Or you can upgrade it to a real one for an extra 1200AUD. Mrketing genius, l think you'll agree.
I'm pleased you've confirmed that it has a CD player. I wouldn't even consider it if there weren't one fitted.
target audience, confirmed.
Listen Buddy, I'm a Nissan man but don't be thinking that Toyota is behind. It's that they have insight. Can anyone really know what tomorrow will bring? I'd say that's innovative cause the pandemic con shows just how you can plan for tomorrow.
Mediocre perhaps, but all my friends owning Landrovers are sick and tired of their incredible unreliability. Yes, the Defender looks much better in a show room... but no way I would consider buying it over the new Landcruiser. I would frankly not accept the Defender if it were given to me free of charge.
What has happened to the front end styling? It looks like a cross between a kids transformer toy and a frontal impact crash test.
lol nice description :)
its not a bad looking shoe box.
It’s all about numbers now. I remember when the diesel v8 came out transforming the 70 series into a towing machine without rival, then caravans doubled in size and journalists started calling it asthmatic.
Land Rover have lost the real off roaders since the ridiculous new defender was released it should have been called the old discovery.
Me, I’m sticking with my 80 series 1hz. It tows like a donkey so my solution is to save a lot of money and not buy a big caravan.
Have you ever tried using a donkey for towing?
@@AutoExpertJC Fair crack my donkey cant tow for shit but its great at fireside cuddles on the trail
Nothing wrong with a CD player in the new 300, so long as it's mounted next to the cassette player for ergonomic functionality. It will likely outlast, outperform, have superior acoustics, and deliver better value than the thin plastic underbody protection found under the new 300?
Still own 100 series, done 500K is one of my favourite car out my 6 cars Ferrari, Porsche, 2xMerc, Audi and the Landcruiser, 100series drives like a charm can tow any thing you connect can pull any thing out from any where it is a beast never breakdown ever, servicing is cheap I do myself, not sure what tis guy is on to complain about LC it was and still the king of the off road.
Do you miss the v8 dust magnet John?
I think you should drive one before criticising the shit out of it.
IN-DASH CD PLAYER FOR $100K+ !!! Sharp as a bag of hammers. If it's a competition between me and someone racing to buy one of these things then they're ahead 1 to 0. Love your work, John.
Nice review John, I find my Lexus RX V6 takes us to the Sofitel on Collins in sheer comfort and serenity just fine and without all that dust!
And they will still sell the most cars because there reliable as fuck, the end
I’ve got tears in my eyes😂 perfect way to start the day! Thank you for your brutal honesty
Are you part of the Toyota Oz senior executive marketing team.
@@AutoExpertJC thank you sir. And kind regards from DPI (Dingo Piss Inlet).
@@AutoExpertJC I wish I had a cushy job in Toyota management. Toyotas sell themselves
Just for reference, good condition 80 Series are now selling for more than they cost new. Can't see any of the newer ones even lasting to 30 years old.
Sure they will. It's in the Dingo Piss Creek Constitution.
@@AutoExpertJC Unfortunately John modern legislation and modern design criteria are sort of completely opposite the fundamental requirement of what was intended to be a remote area / rough terrain transport. I know we can't live in the past but I do wonder how one of these modern vehicles would cope with a bow wave up to the windscreen base, something that my old LN56 2wd Hilux would handle with nothing more than a squeaky fanbelt for a few hundred meters until it dried out.
Here in the UK 80 series cruisers are all corroded to nothing. I tried for a year to track one down but they've all dissolved. Oddly though, similar ages Hiluxes fare much better for rust. And half the 200 series cruisers seem to have failed suspension systems (many have just deleted it and replaced it with passive springs and dampers) so it's a minefield of decent conversions and half assed mods.
In the end I went for a 3.0 Hilux and haven't regretted it. Rangers are everywhere in the UK. And those VW things. Hiluxes here belong pretty much only to farmers, construction workers, forestry companies and network rail.
@@typhoon-7 Here in Australia rust is only a minor problem, unless the vehicle has been used on beaches a lot for fishing trips. Biggest issues here with 80 series is body cracking due to our corrugated roads, radiator support panel, top of the A pillar often causing windscreen cracks as well, and top of the B pillar if it's been fitted with a roof rack are all fairly common if the vehicle has been used for it's intended purpose. If you can find a suburban tractor that's never been off road and always serviced at a dealer it's a gold mine.
@@raygale4198 Aye same here really. My hilux didn't even have a tow bar fitted when I bought it so I figured it hadn't led a tough life. The last 80 I looked at was nearly rusted through the chassis just ahead of the rear axle. The UK has one of the toughest corrosive environments anywhere for cars. Nowhere is more than 200k from the sea or ocean and for 5 months in winter our roads are covered in salt for ice.
I've always costed my trucks every year with Dinitrol or similar as the OEM stuff from any manufacturer just deosnt cut it here.
What a wasted opportunity. Technology and materials have come so far and the best Toyota could do was 200Kg in weight savings ? I don’t really care about the interior and exterior but in terms of material and engine technology, this car is two decades behind. Gone are the days of Toyota pioneering and staying ahead in the game.
That CD players given this away as just another landcruiser price hike
Reminds me of the joke that Lada Niva were to launch a 16 valve model. Turns out, 8 of them were in the radio.
How exactly would you have redesigned the new Landcruiser?
Good question
I was just thinking the exact same thing then read your question.
If he does answer, expect a non-answer.
Pop the champagne luv. Thanks to this 300 V6 BS from Toyota my 200 series V8 Sahara is now worth more than when I bought it 5 years ago. That overengineered V6 might have more power when new but it is likely to be like the Land Rover donk, increasingly prone to substantial repairs as it ages. I love that V8, and the increase in used prices suggests that a lot of other people do too. Fortunately my last Land Cruiser lasted me 17 years, and it seems like I will hang onto this one for at least as long.
I have had an 80 series ( 93 model ) for 23 years, it’s a straight 6 with enough room in the engine bay to put a Nissan four runner in and carried 5 kids and my wife around for 18 of those 23 years. It is a real 4x4 wagon, these new pieces of plastic shit that China builds most of will not last half the distance my 80 series has, so if you are that stupid that you would spend 150k on something that is worthless in ten years ( if it last that long ) while your kids still have holes in their shoes, then you deserve everything you get. There will be one for sale on every street corner for 1/2 the price in 18 months, people are really stupid when it comes down to it
If the market thinks it's worth buying then the company will make 'em. Being outdated is not necessarily a bad thing given the apparent future of passenger cars.
This principle works for most elected world leaders (being outdated).
@@AutoExpertJC Except where it counts. :^)
@@AutoExpertJC So much for the "rational consumer". Nice theory, though.
At least they have circled the problem on the front grill
I wonder what would be the best engineering unit to describe the amount that John loves the sound of his own voice?
A 20 minute video contained about nineteen minutes of grandstanding and a few slivers of useful commentary. About typical of his performances which are possibly more suited to the local suburban theatrical group where he could play the village 'I am'.
It's quite a shame. He has plenty of genuine tech knowledge and I have seen one or two videos where he virtually dispensed with the 'performance' and self adulation and just concentrated on the subject matter. They were excellent.
The reasons for the Land Cruiser's success is its probably unparalleled reliability and the extraordinary retained value besides the fact that it just gets the job done.
Personally, I find the 200 series interior to be unappealing and that stopped me buying one. I have just discovered that, apparently, the 300 still uses that ridiculous bloody strap around the B pillar grab handle to hold the second row seats in place when folded forward. Seriously? That is a joke. The second row seats still appear to take up too much of the potential floor space when folded. With the seats folded it has less useable floor space than my ML350. I use all that space several times a week. At least they now get the third row down into the floor. After having a 3.0 turbo diesel V6 in the ML, it is brilliant. I have no issue whatsoever with the concept of the 300 engine. Oh, except does it really have a bloody noisy, engine driven fan? Seriously? You hear 'em roaring a mile away when they're cold. I had assumed that electric fans would have taken over this time. That's a disappointment.
The 300 dash facia and console is nice. No longer resembles a tarted up delivery truck. I'd like a Sahara but just too expensive.
I love how ham you went on this Great Wall Motors 300 Series (at least it looks like they had a say in the design)! Great entertainment, can hear my landcruiser driving work colleagues crying from a town over.