Bike Check! 2021 Sunday High-C with Mods | 29” BMX | 6 months together
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มี.ค. 2021
- 6 month review/ Bike Check for my 2021 High-C, with wheels, tires, brakes, grips, seat, seat post, sprocket, freewheel, chain, and pedal upgrades .... Figured now was a good time to put this together because next week I’ll be changing the bike up a little.
If folks get a kick out of this, drop me a comment and let me know if I should do something similar for my gear.
I’m 45, learned how to wheelie last year, and I’m loving the bike life. Stay positive everyone, thanks!!! - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Thank you for your videos on this bike! I just bought one and they helped me make my decision.
Thanks Mike, I really hope you enjoy it, and you picked a great time of year to start playing with one of these bikes. Spring!!
Hey Liam! Thanks for these reviews! Been watching your videos on this bike for the past few months, I think I’ll be purchasing one here soon! Thank you!
Thanks so much Javier, glad you’ve enjoyed the videos, and glad to hear you’ll be giving this bike a shot. Please make sure it’s the v brake version (the 2020 u brake (990) just isn’t as good on the brakes, and the v brake is a major update.
That build is so dope🔥🔥
Great review & add-ons! 👍
My wife, son, and I have 3 High C 29's in our garage. 2 army green & and 1 sunrise fade.
I'm working on my wheelies but struggle at times, so I too was contemplating changing the gearing but I also want to maintain daily rideability if that makes sense.
The whole family rides! That’s awesome! As for gearing, I think the best and cheapest option is just to go to a 25T front. They really don’t make them smaller than that, and that’s a very good ratio to help pop the front up (25 front 13 back).
I just noticed my seat is starting to look a little tweaked. I was considering converting to pivotal but I think you get a more comfortable ride on a railed seat . Nice review!
Thanks Steve ... truth to be told, even with the brace, I think my Flyer seat is getting slightly twisted, also, but for me, the real value of the railed seat is in its width at the rear, and also the ability to slide it backwards and forwards to fit different body type. Same with the seat post, I like that you can get offset ones. Do the rails actually work like a spring and provide some comfort? I don’t know. Pivotal seats I don’t have much experience with, either, and tripod seats are just too small and decorative (to me). I’m having enough fun on this bike that if I needed to swap seats at the same frequency as tires (1-2K miles), it wouldn’t be that big of a deal. I just saw someone I know post an S-works seat ...$450!!! $50 for the SE Bikes one seems a little high, too. I’d like them to be $30-35, and I’d like one with a different color, but overall, it works and there are thousands of better riders out there kicking ass and doing the seat dancing thing, so we know the quality is there.
Sweet!! Awesome upgrades. My high c should be here tommorow! I'm used to a beastmode with hydraulic disk brake. Hope I don't loop...
You’ll be fine with the stock brake, I was totally happy with mine for months but I’d been wanting to try the hydro because of @lattidatti and chrisnobloxs (sp?). I also think that prolonged use of the cable v brake is more tiring that the hydro, but that could just be in my mind.
@@dadmodewheeliegang the bike feel great! But yeah I'm a little hesitant to really lean back hard and coast like I can with a disk brake. Yo I'd recommend come to NY for the everybodys Rideout. I've met lati and chris d,mo,and o blocks and so many more super talented bikelife peeps.
@@samfisk1782 I would love to try and make that work!
Love these vids. I have a high c in sunrise orange colorway. Adding the origin8 hornet 15t and shadow chain tomorrow. Nice to see this vid before installing ! Added maxxis grifters 2.5 tires today. I got to your channel for info on the bike all the time. Thanks a lot !!
Right on, thank you for the positive feedback! Happy to know there’s some value in this kind of content, and man, I wish I’d gotten the two tone color way myself, but secretly I’ve been hoping for a full chrome version down the line :) enjoy the hornet and let me know what front sprocket size you end up with!
@@dadmodewheeliegang same here when my paint is done And worn out , I wanna strip and polish the full thing or possibly paint another color. It’s a great bike to build and customize. If you have Instagram check me out on @mysunday29er
@@dadmodewheeliegang I have a question though. Will I have to change the front sprocket as well? Or am I able to just add the hornet ?
You can add the hornet and it should be easier to pop up into the wheelie, but your legs will be spinning faster to go the same speed as your friends. You’re probably going to be fine at 15/27. For me, I wanted something consistent so I could swap wheels without having to lengthen or shorten the chain, and I picked 15/30
@@dadmodewheeliegang okay good to know. I want it to be a little easier but I do want to be able to maintain some considerable amount of torque for riding downhill and cruising but I do feel like the high c is someone hard to peddle at times so I’ll see how it feels with the hornet then maybe in a week or so if I don’t like it change the sprocket
A lot of people forget to service pedals. I like the Shimano Saint MX80 Pedal on my Mountain bikes. And once a year I TH-cam the video, on step by step tear down. They fill better straight away. I have an issue with the seat pole turning. Think the bike shop might of used to much lube
I also had to remove some lube from my seat tube because it was moving in the frame under load.
Nice bike take a look at my bro 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
damn! you coasted mad far without pedaling at the end of the video! random music choice tho lol thanks for the video
Thanks man, yeah, the Magura brakes are pretty nice, and I just added another set of them to my Big Ripper. The music choice is purely random, I usually just have Pandora radio going on a Boom3 speaker than fits perfectly in the water bottle holder. It plays whatever it wants.
Cool video. Seriously thinking off getting one of these...
They’re on the lower end of the pricing spectrum; on par or a little cheaper than the Big Flyer, and it’s smooth right out of the box. If you can find one, it’s a solid buy in my opinion.
@@dadmodewheeliegang over here in Spain they are priced similar to the Big Ripper. But, cromoly over aluminium is better imo. Would you recommend changing out the stock freewheel? To me it seems to be the only downside
I used the stock gearing for a few weeks and it was perfectly fine. It’s 27/13 if I recall. It’s easier to go to a 25T in the front if you want more torque to help pop up the wheelies, but your top speed will be lower. Changing the freewheel to something larger is also good, but can be more expensive because you would also need to lengthen the chain (or buy a new chain). I do have some Shimano or Dicta 15T freewheels that are pretty quiet, and those would be good options if you can’t find an Origin8 Hornet. Where in Spain are you?
Great video I have a high c as well and I’m just starting to put upgrades on. What size is your sprocket??
Thanks Josh! The stock ratio of 27T/13T is just fine, but I ended up going with 30T/15T because a little lower gear is easier on my right (power) knee.
Hey thinking of getting this bike or an se 29er, which would you recommend?
You seem very knowledgeable on the bike. Do you think it would be possible to add a front brake? Preferably something like the Fairdale Taj has.....? Thanks!
Anything is possible with enough money, and I have added a old school odyssey front brake to my 2020 High C (the clamp style brake), but it wasn’t very strong. If brakes are a concern, there is a steel Redline single speed with disc brakes that looks good, but I haven’t ridden one yet to make an assessment
@@dadmodewheeliegang I have a 2021 High C. Don't need anything powerful. Just like using both. Had unexpected lockup on gravely road a couple of times. Used to front and rear brakes. I'll roll into the city one of these days and see what the BMX shop I bought it from might be able to do. Thanks for the quick reply.
@@leadsled213 I'd consider swapping forks to something with post mounts for a v-brake if decent front brakes is a goal. Perhaps even a disc brake set up. I've heard you can order S&M "Pounding Beer" forks with brake mounts as well, but I haven't seen that advertised online.
My 29 raw cult devotion runs 30t 9t cassette. I might buy the s&m cruiser wheelset and go freewheel. 30t 15t maybe 33t 16t ros/origin8 hornet probably have to buy 2 new shadow supreme half link chains tho. Nice ride.
I use the 30/15 because I am usually pedaling uphill, but if I was in a less mountainous area, I'd run the 33/15 combo. That's a good balance for speed and versatility.
@@dadmodewheeliegangI just bought the Sunday high c, what’s the difference between stock 27/13 vs 30/15? I live in a pretty hilly area
@@FonzoCapone the 30/15 will be slightly easier to ride up hill
I just bought this bike and I was just wondering how to upgrade the brake! I’m used to hydraulic disk brakes from my mtb 😅
You can use Magura HS33 as a hydraulic v-brake. It’s similar but not quite as easy to maintain as a disc brake
What size is your front sprocket?!?! I see your running that origin8 freewheel... i had to go RideOutSupply because Origin didnt make a 15T freewheel and Sunday told me i could only fit a 30T front sprocket on and still get clearance from the chainstays... so currently im running a 30/15 and i LOVE the way it pedals and wheelies SO much. However i would still prefer to go origin8 16T with something like a 33 front sprocket.. i have an extra 29 inch wheel laying around with a flip flop hub ready to be used for it aswell.
Hi, I’m this video I’m running 30-15, with an origin8 15T hornet in the back. I’ve since changed to running 30-14 using a new cassette rear hub from Box Three. It lets me change the rear sprocket size easily and the generic sprockets are only $10 each
@@dadmodewheeliegang Awesome and thanks for taking the time to let me know. I appreciate it! :)
Sorry if I missed it but how many teeth were on the front sprocket? I know the rear is 15 so curious what you had for the front. Thanks
On my Sunday I’m running 30T front and 15T rear
Can you please keep us updated on the peg wheelies. I'm super keen on this bike but I'm worried the 3/8" axle is going to bend. Any issues so far?
Hi Jamali, no issues with the 3/8” axle so far, just need to check your axle nuts regularly. I did have one come loose on a ride a few months ago. More importantly, keep the hub bearings tight, because those seem to take the most impact, and it’s why I’m staying on the S&M hubs from their Covid Cruiser wheelset for now (plus the axle was longer iirc). Their bearings seem to be higher quality than some of the SE wheels I’ve tried. On my stock big ripper rear wheel, I now have a small clunk so that wheel is sidelined until I get a replacement set of bearings for it. As for bending a 3/8” axle, you’d need to be doing some serious grinding or hits to one of the pegs imo. I’m at 190#, and so far so good with just parking lot maneuvers. I did have my longest 2 footed peg wheelie yesterday, maybe 45 seconds long down the hill I practice at.
@@dadmodewheeliegang thanks heaps bro. Really appreciate the info. It's a super mission getting these bikes in New Zealand so going purely off online info before i spend over a thousand bucks. Awesome to hear bro. Trying to get the bike life movement going here but currently on a 26" mt bike so wanted to upgrade to a proper wheelie bmx bike.
You got it, glad to know this is helping!!!
did you use the fr8 tool to remove the 13t odyssey freewheel? or should i expect to buy a separate tool for the removal? i got a ROS freewheel and i need the park tool fr8 to put it on, just wondering if i can use that same tool to remove the 13t as well. thanks!
I’m sorry, but I don’t remember the part number of the tool I used to remove the original Freewheel. For the installation of the new free wheel, you don’t need the tool to tighten it down. If you threaded on there by hand you can simply use the chain and the Kranks to pull the free wheel tied to the wheel. You have incredible force when you drop all your weight down on 1 foot pedaling forward, and even if you use the tool to tighten the Freewheel on chances are you’ll still tight knit more just buy riding with it the first time.
Did you have to cut / shorten the Magura brake line? It says it ships as 79 inches long, which seems to be about 20 inches too long for my 2022 High C.
I did shorten the line, but maybe only 12” or so.
With the hydraulic V-brake from Magura, my MtB rims are always worn out very quickly and I could throw them away and had to replace them. That was expensive fun. That's why I don't like the Magura. Is Mafiabikes the only manufacturer that sells wheelie bikes with disc brakes? Wheelies are much easier with disc brakes, I remember that from my days on MtB. I want a 29 "wheeliebike but with a disc brake. but at the Sunday Bike I like the very stable steel frame
I've ridden several hundred miles with this setup, and the rims are just fine with barely any wear through the anodized black color. There are several companies that make wheelie bikes with disc brakes. Off the top of my head from SE Bikes: Monster Ripper, Monster Quad, Fat Quad, Fast Ripper, PK Ripper, Maniacc Flyer. Collective makes a MTB that people use as a wheelie bike with disc brakes as well. GT Bikes has a Street Performer with Disc. Throne Goon XL is also with disc. For half of 2021 I have ridden a Fast Ripper or Monster Quad, so I'm familiar with the benefits of disc myself. I don't know a steel wheelie bike with disc, but I may have missed it. Good luck with your selection!
@@dadmodewheeliegang thank you very much dude. the enumeration of the bikes helped me a lot. The american manufacturers are not represented that often here in germany. I like the new green High C pretty much and it's cheaper than the rippers with gears and discs. I can spend 1,000 euros. I want to ride wheelies but also make high jumps in a skatepark. That's why I prefer a steel frame.
@@knitterfreiyoutube yoo, fellow german here, did you find a good bike with disc breakes?
Got myself a mafia bomma 27.5 with gears because it was advertised as 30 lbs on their site, turns out it was like 36..
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Where did you find your freewheel? I literally scoured the internet and couldn't find one.
I got it late last summer of 2020, so not sure where they are at with production and availability today
I have that bike but in the red colorway and im going to replace the sprocket for a 33teeth one would it fit?
Yes, it should. Someone else commented that they’ve done 33 as well
How is your tire fitment on the rear with the brake boosters, I just ordered 2.5a
Great question - I had to bend my booster a little to get it to fit over the 2.5” hookworms.
@@dadmodewheeliegang ok hopefully I can get it to fit thank you for the info !
What size half link chain did your bike need?
Not sure, just measured and cut to size
So the 29” hiC does not come with rainless spokes?
Nope
@Liam S
Actually I am into BMX (also Sunday Custom) and Skateboarding but looking for a new Bike. Does this Bike work for longer rides or should I take a look into Fixed Gear or something like that if I want to stay with Single Speed?
Greetings from Germany! 🖖
Hi Alf! I think this bike would be great for going longer distances. I just rode ~30km yesterday, and my weekly work outs are about 15km, 4 or 5 days every week.
Also, fixed gear is great (and fast), but for me, uncomfortable for long rides because of the body position
@@dadmodewheeliegang thanks for the reply! That helped me alot!
To be honest I fell in love with higher end track bikes but the costs are about double the price on second market bikes.
Anyways its good to know that the High C will fit my planned rides too.
I guess I need a coin to decide. 😄
Agree, I love the design and simplicity of the track bikes but I feel they’re a bit delicate for curb jumping, and I like to have fun on the bike while cruising, so a heavier, stronger bike I can play with is good. If you’re already into bmx, it would be great to see how your skills translate. I have only seen 2 people do a clean 180 with a 29” bmx
@@dadmodewheeliegang You gave me a good advice to think about my riding style as it is since the early 80s. I cannot avoid any little curb to atleast jump a little bit and want to ride into the woods too.
Also and that seems to be one of the biggest factors, I have some heavy disc prolapse in my neck and bc of that I shouldn't sit as sporty on a bike. Can't bend my head too far back. My doctor would kick my ass on a track bike. 😅
So yeah, decisions are made. I know my money will burn through some nice looking custom BMX parts to make the High C a bit more unique. 😄
Thanks again for your time! Stay safe!
high CV or se Big flyer? wich is easier to wheelie?
For me, the short chain stay length makes the HighC easier to start the wheelie, BUT, the SE bikes seem to be easier to manipulate and move around once the bike is balanced on one wheel ... so ... long term durability and the easier to pop the wheelies with the High C, and it’s easier to do peg tricks on the SE. I think overall it just comes down to practice practice practice, no matter what you ride.
hey man i can’t find the seat post think you can send me a link for where to get it? thx
Hey Thooi, any decent 27.2 post should work. I checked my eBay history and I see this one isn’t available any more. Just a note, the seat post on my Big Ripper also doesn’t pivot forward enough! So I’m looking for another one again.
@@dadmodewheeliegang thanks
Can the angle of the seat be adjusted?
I’ve seen mixed results. It can be adjusted, but some (like mine) weren’t able to go “nose-down” as much as I wanted.
What’s the teeth count on the front sprocket same as stock?
I was going to put a 15 tooth hornet freewheel on my Sunday do I need to change the front sprocket
30T front, 15T rear
I have trouble with the Magura brakes squeaking really badly. Did you experience this? Any tips on how to solve the issue? I have a 2022 Sunday high c
I’ve only had bad bad squeaking when there was air in the system, and it required removing it and bleeding it completely in my kitchen sink. It happened more than once on one of my bikes, so I learned to bleed it vertically, as that seemed to be better than bleeding it on the bike.
@@dadmodewheeliegang hmm. I wonder if that’s my problem. Thanks so much!
It’s easy for air to get in the system when the hose is shortened. In my case, I think air gets in the right or left slave cylinder somehow. I use 2 syringes to bleed everything and you can slowly push the fluid back and forth and watch for the bubbles.
@@dadmodewheeliegang I did shorten my hose and ran it through the barrels in the frame. I used the olive and barrel nut provided and followed the instructions on a TH-cam video. The brakes “seem” fine but they honk like two very angry geese. I tried cleaning the rim but no good. I figured the black pads are just the wrong type for my rims but I’m gonna try bleeding before I order more pads. The bleed kit arrives today. Any other tips on bleeding them or just follow the TH-cam instructional video? I know they are set up correctly and to the correct torque specs. Pads are perfectly square to the rim and 1mm away from rim on both sides. Everything is symmetrical and looks good. I don’t know why I can’t find any info about this problem online. It’s like I’m the only one this has ever happened to lol
I searched forever also … the loud honk comes from the pads chattering because they’re not getting consistent pressure due to the air in the system
any issues with the crankset ?
I thought I had an issue with the crank bearings, but it turned out to be a bad pedal bearing. I did swap the Odyssey mid BB (pretty simple to do with basic tools), but I couldn’t tell any difference. I did notice the 19mm spindle was scored and had bearing roller marks, which I thought was weird because the original, stock BB was also sealed and looked like the same quality as the replacement bearings I installed.
@@dadmodewheeliegang good to know cheers
Whats the biggest sprocket i can install on my High C?
I’m running a 30T and I know of a few others that have installed a 33T. You can probably go bigger if you space the crank arms out a bit, but there’s not a lot of space at the rear dropouts so you could run into chain alignment issues.
@@dadmodewheeliegang thanks brotha
No worries, enjoy the ride!
Is sm speedball tyres 29 inch better then lagos snakeskin 29
I haven’t spent any time with the Snakeskins on my bikes, but I recently checked out a pair last weekend and they seem like a great tire. I like that they’re 2.5” wide and they felt good to my fingers. The Speedballs are fast rolling, great tires, but they skid and slide almost immediately when you’re hard on the brakes and that tells me they’re very sensitive to tire pressure in order to help maintain grip. I’ve had them slide out on me several times when I was practicing swerves (and my swerves are weak … so it’s not like I was going crazy). My worst crash came from sliding out during a swerve with the Speedballs and I have a large scar on the top of my shoulder as a result. Ever since I moved my Rippers over to Maxxis Hookworms, I’ve been happy. They’re compliant, and very grippy (probably the best overall tire I’ve ever ridden).
@@dadmodewheeliegang is sm speedball tyres goods for wheelies
Yes, they’re fine
How many teeth does your sprocket have?
30T front, 15T rear
You’re really riding a bike with a mask on.
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Haha I was on that day, it’s friggin’ cold in the winter here!