Every Good Player Does This - TRAIL WRIST BEND & SHAFT LEAN
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- The most elusive position for amateur golfers to replicate in their swings is FORWARD SHAFT LEAN at impact.
Everyone knows that when the pros hit their iron shots, they exhibit forward shaft lean. This position is achieved by keeping the trail wrist bent backwards (extended) for longer in the downswing than the majority of players are doing. The Golfing Machine book calls this the Right Wrist Flying Wedge (RWFW) or Right Forearm Flying Wedge (RFFW) to describe the “wedge-shaped” angle formed between the trail wrist/forearm and the shaft.
Typically, amateur golfers demonstrate a “casting” movement in the downswing which leads to inconsistent contact, and a significant loss of distance. This “casting” is the bane of thousands of golfers’ lives, constantly struggling with fat and thin shots, as well as topping the ball and striking off-centre on the club face resulting in a significant loss in distance.
Training the correct shaft lean at impact has typically proven to be difficult due to the complex nature of the wrist motion throughout the swing, but the Precision Impact training aid from Pure Swing Products manages to provide golfers with the feedback necessary to acheive the perfect impact conditions and wrist angles to powerfully compress the ball with every club in your bag!
In this video, I’ll show you how the Precision Impact training aid helps to train forward shaft lean at impact for crispy ball striking every time and include some drills to help you build up from small chip and punch shots to full swings.
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Wow, Just got this training device. I've been taking lessons at golf tech and my instructor who has been bee best instructor in the state for 4 years, says " this (shaft forward) is the most difficult thing to teach and accomplish!! On the first day at the range can't believe how many many things this improves in the golf swing. The front edge of my 7 iron was totally green. Nothing on botton of iron at all. ORDER ON RIGHT NOW!!! YOU WON'T REGRET IT ONE BIT
Rob, watching your videos has transformed my golf swing from 30 years of inconsistent ball striking to a compressing the ball at impact swing. 8 iron distance went from 120 yards sometimes to a consistent 150 yards. I'm buying this device just to help in my practice so thanks for the referral.
Big question, hopefully you'll see it: can you use this device with driver/fairway woods swing or is this solely for irons?
Thanks again for all your content- it really has transformed my enjoyment of the game.
Hello, I'm a (non youtube) instructor and yes, 95-99% of people that come for help use the wrists/hands to move the clubhead. Some don't know they are doing it. Others are aware, but can't stop. Seeing the title of this video, I naturally was very interested to watch the video. Very good presentation of the problem, and how to use this device. I have previously scoured the internet looking for anything that will STOP a player from the scourge of early release. I bought this one and a couple of others. None of them did what I was looking for, but we'll just talk about this one. I was disappointed because although it may help one feel resistance when they early release...it will not prevent them from doing so. I tried it myself and with the fully cocked position and locked in....I could still uncock the wrists due to the flexibility of the device (thus why you can hit a full shot and still have a release later in the follow through). So it wasn't what I was hoping for and I'm not saying it won't help some people but again it doesn't prevent early release. Also was disappointed that I tried to return it being dissatisfied and was told that unless it has a manufacturing defect there is no refund offered. I ended up building my own device from 3/4 PVC pipe, a 45 degree connector and a cut in half 4 inch pipe connector to cup the trail arm. It works the way I want it to.
I think you are a good instructor, this comment is not meant to be a negative at you, I'm just afraid many will buy this aid and it not perform how they think it will.
Agree 100% with you. Sold mine on ebay. But Rob is spot on with the proper position of the trail wrist and hands forward shaft angle. It's transformed my ball striking.
Excellent discussion of the two necessary moves of weight transfer and wrist hinge together
My precision golf aid just arrived and I’m sure it’s going to be beneficial for every aspect of my golf especially for early extension, shaft lean and lower body having to move forward and around properly. Thank you for promoting this training aid Rob.
Wonderful video Rob, as usual. I’m ordering two of these: one for me and one for my dad. We’re both very happy we found you on TH-cam. Your videos are very well presented. Very articulate and great explanations.
Thanks Rob. You provide a useful service in evaluating training aids, then bringing the best and most effective devices to our attention.
Rob,Was looking before such kind of device for some time. Just ordered and thanks for discount benefit equals more or less shipping costs to The Netherlands.
Just watched your video!
All I can say, is I bought this about a month ago after watching someone else’s video .
It doesn’t fit snugly to the back of my right hand, would be nice if they included some type of spacers for that. I just found a couple wedges to insert under the hand pad and it fits okay.
I did take it straight to the course though, lol!
Put it on, left it on and played 9 holes.
It did allow me to recover about a clubs distance back. And it does promote a nice tight draw.
Now if I could just get some more distance back, when I started playing-self taught- I hit the ball so pure and had that low boring ball flight. Watching videos for years sure did screw my game up as far as distance goes. Seems swinging slow and smooth just doesn’t create the distance needed….lol!
Nope, I’m not playing the senior tees!
Anyway! I do approve of this training device and if anyone is new to golf, I’d buy this over an expensive driver!!!
Hello Rob- Another good idea. Just getting OK from my neuro surgeon to begin rehab from my recent back surgery. Another 30 days of PT before my next round. Stay safe.-Russ in sunny North Carolina
Rob, love the videos. This looks like a great training aid. Thanks for throughly explaining and showing it in the half and full swing. I ended up ordering one.. my wife said the “free TH-cam” is getting expensive! 😂
One of my favorite videos for ball striking
Rob, this and your arm structure video has transformed my ball striking ability. Thank you brother!
Just ordered one, Rob! Thanks! Hopefully this will help me cure my shanks, early extension, casting, and standing up!
Rob, I really appreciate you reviewing this product. In the past, I've used The Secret (very uncomfortable) and Gary Wiren's The Key (not bad). The Right Wrist Flying Wedge is definitely key, and I tend to throw it away for a variety of reasons. Punch drills, and your swing hard stop quick, used in concert with these tools, is great for dialing in impact and there is no better sensation than compressing the golf ball. Isn't that the REAL reason we all play? 🙂
I tried Greg Normans Secret many years ago. It really helped but could not continue with it for very long as index finger joint really hurt. I actually still have The Secret sitting behind me here. This device that Rob promotes looks really useful. Perhaps something all golfers should use to get the correct understanding of the right wrist when they are first starting out on the sport.
Very interesting. I was taught 30 years ago to cock the wrists and "roll" through impact. Having changed to hingeing and minimising wrist cock I hit the ball lower, further and with draw. But it still needs work (unlearning is difficult). I'm going to look into buying one of these. Changing subject, hope you guys make top 4 ahead of "The Arse" but watch us go in future now we've got "E10H" (Erik ten Hag) 😉
I have ordered Rob. I will let you know how it is when I get it. Thanks.
Can’t thank you enough for this video Rob ordered mine, received it last week, been training with it for one week and really feeling the difference. Feeling great compression and that’s a new feeling for me for sure thanks again
Bill
Thanks for the video! Haven't played much over the last 30 years, but starting again. The rolling of the wrists was something that I remember being taught, thanks for correcting that.
Rob what are you thoughts on the Lag Shot training aid? Good or no? Thanks!
Great video. This has been my issue for past year. Everything else I seem to get but when I ho back and watch video in slow motion I see myself flick the wrist just at impact. Thank you for this. I will try this out.
Rib, as usual, you’re the best!! I know the right wrist has been a culprit of my swing. Just ordered mine, will let you know the results.
Teri , Thanks Thanks Thanks for what you do.
Tony
Does this training aid overlap with the hangar for training wrist flexion?
Great video Rob - thank you . I assume same approach with the driver but with a different set up and hitting up on the ball ?
I purchased percision impact to help with my flip inculding doing your drills. I try to keep my right wrist bent way past impact to try to exaggerate the feeling. What I see on camera is keeping right wrist back very good when I swing above the ball as a practice swing. When I try the same thing hitting a ball I release because obviously my brain now knows I have to hit the ball. Have you experienced that with any of your students and what drills worked to help?
Great as always Rob. I've never been a big proponent of rolling the hands through impact either. I've never bought any swing aide, but I do like this one.
Great stuff as always. Flying wedge is key!
Thanks Rob for sharing this. I have been noticing my hands sometimes are not forward enough at impact; also at times displaying a bit of a chicken wings. I’d love to try this out
2nd time putting these comments out:
Hi Rob. As usual, great content. I’ve watched this video a number of times and have purchased said piece of kit. Can you just clarify please. Re the wrist hinge and the sensation I am aiming for, am I looking to bend my right thumb towards my body at the top of the swing, and/or bend my right wrist to the right as if I am holding a plate on the palm of my right hand at the top of the swing? Either one of these moves, independently, makes the device click, but I’m not 100% sure which, (or both), I should be doing. Kind regards, Al
Ordered!
Rob, couple quick questions. Can this be done with driver? Also, I always wondered when the right wrist is supposed to start bending back, is it off the get go or more gradual as club goes back, or does it really matter.thanks.
How brilliant and exciting!
Please provide the information needed to order the wrist training device in the video!
Visually it shows how it works and I might add you showed how it works pretty darn good 👍. Can you use it with one hand? Just curious that’s all. Thank you.
My question is how do you bow you wrist without creating tension in the swing. I just ordered a precision impact....its not in stock
Unfortunately I’m a lefty or I’d order in a heartbeat as this is an area that I desire to improve. What drills wold you suggest for those of us that can’t get the training aid?
Great
Hi Rob, should you also have the shaft lean (maybe not as much as irons) with the driver? If Iwant to do that with the driver, I feel like I should have a strong grip or a bowed wrist with a neutral grip so I can square the club face so the club face isn't open during the impact.
Hello Bob
Very informative video. Do we apply that right hinge to to Chip & pitch shots????
Thanks
Awesome explanation of right wrist position & motion…Thnx!
Does the precision impact really work and is it strong enough. For a chronic flipper to achieve the correct wrist angles at £100 it's expensive if it doesn't work.
Hi Rob, what drills would you recommend in lieu of this training aid to practise the wrist positions you teach in this video? Thanks and great video.
Does this trail wrist bend apply to the driver as well?
Is it necessary to hinge wrist right in take away? I see many pros don’t do that but mainly set their wrists in transition or downswing?
Rob, I just bought this training aid and I am still working with it and getting use to it. Would you say that another benefit of the training aid, in addition to keeping the RFFW in tact through impact, is that it also helps with the proper follow through (i.e., that it makes the club travel in the correct path and manner in the follow through)? Appreciate any thoughts you can provide. Thanks
Great video as always Rob. This looks really useful for what I'm working on with Ayumi. Have you by chance tried this on any of your female students, or junior golfers? I'm wondering if the length from wrist hinge to where it attaches at the two fingers might be too long for my small hands. I saw a couple of female college players featured in the video on the website, so that's a good sign.
Great idea!
Isn’t the goal to also increase trail wrist extension further in transition/downswing as well?
How do you use this with the driver? Same way? All the videos I see, irons are used but no one has used a driver with this device.
@@golftecasia Thank you!
Rob this is exactly what I've been working on in recent weeks! However, I've been setting my trail wrist like this right from the off, ie at address, and then trying to maintain right up until contact! Results have been very good thus far, but are there any negatives to setting like this at address?
Many thanks
Andrew
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Hi Rob, the only issues I've had are sometimes hitting fat or topped shots, albeit a minority! As you said in your video, you have to remember that your trail arm is shortening so-to-speak, so need to have and maintain some side-bend..
It does come across though as a bit of a punch shot, so not entirely sure it works with full shots!?
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Oh yes, excellent example! I shall preserve with what I'm doing alright, but feel it's important to add that you really need to rotate fully through, and stay down, for it to really work..
I’m getting my weight forward but am losing the angle before getting to the parallel position in the downswing - any ideas ?
So in trying this motion, the heel digs in and I chop the ball and ground left. What am I doing wrong? Help!
hey rob - I luv all your videos as they have definately helped my game. i'm a lefty & precision impact does not have a training aid for lefty's yet. what other drill do you recommend for improving shaft lean?
@@golftecasia thx rob. i will definately incorporate this drill into my practice routine
Please demonstrate wrist Hong without this training aid. Thanks
Does the bent back wrist apply to the driver and fairway woods as well?
YES IT DOES IT HELPS EVERY CLUB IN THE BAG!! YOULL LOVE IT
hi Rob, thanks for all the the good content, is there any certified stack and tilt instructor based in Beijing? thanks
got it, thanks, so what's the best way to get more instruction, online video with you?
Is it ok that you bend your trail wrist back in starting the swing . It appears by doing that helps with rotating better! Are you trying to keep your trail wrist bent back at impact as well?
Just got my training device ..felt more consistent compression straight away .. and like you said in the video it makes you move better . My 2 sons like it and my son in law who’s a beginner it’s been amazing 🏌️♂️👍
How to order ,and how much? From Manila
I believe in releasing the wrists a little more than most. I feel it’s more of a natural body movement
Looking at the website endorsed by Peter Kostis wouldn't convince me, however endorsed by Rob Cheney order placed before finishing the video hahaha
How much is this ? From Manila phil
Does this work with driver too? Can I still do parallel to parallel and then work up to full swings?
Thank you! 🙌🏾
Looks great but unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be available for lefties.
I have that training aid and unfortunately, I don’t find it works well at all. It’s plastic and bends, so it doesn’t really keep your wrist angle. It’s a great idea. It just doesn’t work as well as you might wish
…I think this is not a training aid…it will wind up a playing aid…
Looks like a medieval torture device