Back in 2014 I went to Germany and I rode on the ICE 3 from Cologne to Frankfurt. I actually got a chance to rode at the very front of the train and I could see the driver operating the train! The train conductor was also very kind and he even gave a toy ICE model train!
To answer the question at around 9:04, I believe the answer is yes, the driver can control the transparency of the partition. There's a button on the right side of the cab that switches between transparent and opaque, as seen in Train Sim World (assuming this is accurate, of course).
@Mr. VeryBadCop On my first trip on an ICE3 in Frankfurt I asked the driver if he could make the screen clear but he informed me it was "kaput". Half way thru the journey there was a driver change and the new driver made the screen clear so Kaput was a lie! Anyways I do recall reading that it is entirely up to the driver whether he makes it frosted or clear.
15 Jan 2020, 14:02 Benjamin Wehrmann Transport ministry and Deutsche Bahn ink 86 billion euro investment contract Transport
Clean Energy Wire The German rail service Deutsche Bahn (DB) and the country's transport ministry (BMVI) have sealed a contract that will see investments in the state-owned company at a record 86 billion euros by 2030. "The 2020s will be a golden age for Deutsche Bahn," said transport minister Andreas Scheuer, calling the investments "the biggest modernisation programme that ever existed in Germany." The funds will be primarily used for updating grid infrastructure and train stations as well as gearing DB's power supply further towards renewables, the company said. Scheuer said a "strong railway" would lay the groundwork for "active climate protection in the transport sector." The government contributes 62 billion euros to the investment programme and DB another 24 billion, meaning that the company's annual budget available for replacements and maintenance increases by more than 50 percent compared to the last round of financing, said the ministry. DB said it plans to modernise about 2,000 kilometres of tracks every year and 2,000 railway bridges over the next decade. The investments into DB were agreed upon in the framework of Germany's climate package in a bid to improve the country's lacklustre emissions reduction performance in the transport sector, which contrary to other sectors of the economy has not reduced its greenhouse gas output at all since 1990. In order to make train rides more attractive to customers, the government has also reduced taxes on train tickets and announced it would substantially increase funding of public transport services over the next decade. Deutsche Bahn said it would buy hundreds of new trains and also revive mothballed connections in a bid to lure and handle more passengers.
@@mstrmren I'm German and I assume you are probably very young or you don't live in Germany. Our politicians have been promising for decades to increase spending on railways and improve the quality of rail services. But in reality things only got worse. I don't believe that the ones who have caused this situation will be the ones to solve that.
I think, how a station looks like is rather uninteresting. It may matter if you do a report about munich station. But in this case it would be more interesting to tell facts about the stock, the cleanliness of the train, the appearence of the staff and the pricing in the bistro. All in all it was a good trip report. 👍
Interesting that you chose to ride this on... not really a high-speed line. I recommend riding the Frankfurt to Cologne line, it feels like a roller coaster!
@@shubhampawaskar6443 Its beutiful to listen to. Sadly the ones going trough I think Switzerland and some other country dont have them because they have to use a different generation that doesnt have it anymore lol
@@shubhampawaskar6443 ÖBB or OEBB (if you dont have the Ö) is Austrian (Österreich). Switzerland has as far as I know the SBB. ÖBB=Österreichische Bundes bahenen (Austrian Federel railways) SBB=Schweizerische Bundesbahnen. (Switz federal railway) Weird tho. I know the 3rd generation Taurus (ÖBB 1216) dont have that scale music sound when departing.
@Shubham Pawaskar , it's not the traction motors, it's the old power converters with gate turn-off (GTO) thyristors, which are not effectively continuously adjustable like the more modern IGBT converters. Their step-by-step control logic makes it possible to clearly acoustically distinct between the different control frequencies, so that they sound like a scale.
About your dislike of München Hbf. They are working on it. At the moment work is underway for a new main building and a new tunnel station vor S-Bahn trains. Also they will finally build a pedestrian tunnel between the platforms. With 32 platforms(not counting the 4 U-Bahn platforms) and two wing stations you have to walk quite a distance to change trains. Especially when arriving in one of the wing stations you will have to walk the whole length of the platform to get to the concourse and then walk back out on another platform. With the tunnel this will be massively improved.
They unfortunately won't tear down the main hall though. It's a protected monument. They'll only rebuild the station building. How anyone could've decided that such an ugly metal box has to be "protected" is beyond me...
@@leDespicable well post-war Germany really wasn´t drowning in cash so it had to be something cheap and functional. I don´t get why people always hate on 60s and 70s-style buildings
@@rubenvo3627 I'm not saying they should've build a baroque palace, of course they had to build something functional. What I don't get is when people nowadays try to protect this type of architecture. It was never built to last for eternity, those 60's and 70's style buildings were meant to be torn down and replaced by something better when the money was available. Putting something as bland as the main hall of Munich Central on a list of protected buildings is ridiculous when, at the same time, parts of Stuttgart Central - also a protected building - get torn down. Why is it allowed to demolish parts of a protected historical building, but when it comes to the grey box in Munich, those regulations suddenly have to be very strictly enforced...
@@leDespicable Well parts of the Bonatzbau simply had to be sacrificed to realise S21 but most importantly the main building will be refurbished - and I mean it really needed it. And the reason Munich too will be preserved is due to its significance from a engineering stand point. Why would you spend that money on looks when it could be used to improve other rail infastructure?
Btw Munich Central Station is undergoing a redesign and the high-speed track between Stuttgart and Munich is under construction, with some parts going parallel to highway 8.
As a matter of fact both things you disliked about this trip are going to be improved. Munich main station is currently being refurbished and the seats on both ICE3 and ICE4 are going to be replaced (DB selected the new seats together with some selected costumers; so let's hope for the best :))
I really liked the ICE 3 Trains. It's a shame, that they put these bad seats from the ICE 4 in it. But the DB is working on it I heard. They choose a new seat model, which will replace these hard ones. I hope they will be as good (or quite better) than the old one, which were in it before they put these hard ones in it! Sorry for my bad English. I'm from Germany
Your English is just fine wish my German was as good as your English, personally I love the ice trains and when I go on a foreign holiday it’s always to Germany and when booking the holiday I immediately book the weekly ticket for the region I stay in this gives you trams regional trains and certain buses plus the ubahn, great value for the money
@@Subgamer-lu4xv okay i know DB Fernferkehr has is iwn seats in the IC2 that are normal regional train seats, IC1 habe their own seats but there exist many special Waggons with their own seats, ICE 1 Velaro old ICE 3 ICE T have the same seats, ICE 2 habe bis own seats, new ICE 3 and 4 habe their own and Velaro Novo will have i them or i think so and probably the ECx will habe the same
Munchen Hbf looks very beautiful! I think every train should have a bar-bistro car like this, it adds a nice touch, and you can escape from the bad seat😂 As always great video :)
Another great video. I love the sounds of those traction motors as the locomotives accelerate out of the station. Always reminds me of my travels around Austria.
7:21 I remember that baggage racks really were lacking in the old cabin. In fact, the new seats are harder but I guess you won’t find any high sped service in Europe where you have as mach baggage space as in the redesigned ICE trains.
Unfortunately always when DB "redesigns" the interior of their trains it is much worse afterwards. The seats in the ICE3 were the best and the interior looked quite premium. Now they have installed these awful seats of the ICE4 and everything looks like the cheapest things you can find at IKEA: Especially in the 1st class the difference is big. I don't want to pay 1st class prices for my ticket and feel like I am travelling in a low budget train with fake wood and plastic
if you speak German: I can recommend the channel of “Lucas Michael”, he mainly does trip reports on regional trains within Germany. But only in German (voice over, not subtitles like here). He also did a video of the HLB Flirt (on a different route though): th-cam.com/video/hixQ1hsgdcM/w-d-xo.html
Tu penses qu'il serait possible un jour ne pas seulement tester les trains spécifiques, mais faire une vidéo où tu compares les réseaux ferroviaires de différentes pays? Par exemple, la France et l'Allemagne ont des réseaux ferroviaires bien différents et je pense que ça donnerait du contenu intéressant d'en expliquer le pourquoi.
The german High Speed is so bad... Bad speed (2h17 for 241km of Munich Stuttgart vs 1h02 for 220km of Paris-Lille...), bad comfort... The only good things are the bistro and the cleaness...
You should've taken a look at the track between Ulm and Stuttgart. There isn't high speed possible right now, the track is from the beginning of railroads. The geology in that area is highly complicated and not comparable with France. Steep and very curvy. That's the reason why it takes so long. You can't compare the track with new french rail lines... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fils_Valley_Railway
they're working on it, there are big time construction works on that route right now to improve the track speed and journey time. Obviously can't be fast right now, and wasn't fast on that track so far
Well there isn't much between Paris and Lille, just villages and farmland. Between Munich and Stuttgart there are several larger cities where the trains stop.
@@SimplyRailway No it's not. While they may look similar, there are some great differences. For example, the T series only has 5 or 7 coaches compared to the 8 of the ICE 3 family. It's also considerably slower at 230 km/h max compared to the 3 series 330 km/h. The T series also has a built in tilting system, granted it's no longer in use. Also the infamous Diesel ICE series TD was based on and part of the T series, while it had nothing to do with the 3 family. I get why people mix up the two, they both were built around the same time originally and they look somewhat similar. But that's where the similarities end. The T series was especially built to be used on non modified conventional routes and that's exactly where they keep operating to this day. The 3 family was designed to be the flagship on the new high speed lines and they all share the same basics, 8 coaches (4 of them are propelled) with 5 2nd Class, 2 first class and one Bistro/Restaurant car and speeds up to 330 km/h. BR 403, 406, 407 and the new 408s (the 30 units ordered last summer) are part of it. The T series ( BR 411, 415 and 605 (the Diesel ICE) ) are they own odd little family.
The best seats in the ICE Family belong to the ICE 1 The trains may be the oldest in the series, but their refurbishments make it the most comfortable It mainly travels from Cologne via Wuppertal, Hamm and Hannover to Berlin and connects in Hamm with a second wagon which started in Dusseldorf towards Berlin
Here, though, I have to say that it's a cultural thing with seat firmness. Germans simply like harder seats better, and on long journeys it's certainly better for the back. By the way, you can also see this in cars, French cars are much better padded and super comfortable for short distances but not for long ones.
Before the pandemics, I commuted quite often (several times per week) with the ICE3M between Cologne and Brussels. I hope we will never get these uncomfortable seat on that line. I tried them once between Frankfurt and Chur.... Never again (I hope...)
Post war 1950s/60s German architecture is fascinating. Always reminds me of Kraftwerk boarding at Dusseldorf Hbf. Yes, concrete is a bit bland, but it's got a life the boring glass and steel blocks of later years don't have.
I wonder if the hard, thin seats came about as a response to the complaint about lack of luggage space. Since the carriages haven't become bigger, the number of seats possible has to shrink or the seats become thinner for that improvement for the luggage. A trade-off that also put that revised train on shorter routes, I suspect.
The new seats are absolutely horrendous. They are rock-hard, the lower back support is in totally the wrong position for anyone of above average height (for reference: I’m 187cm) and the curvature of the seat and narrow head rest make it impossible to sit in any posture other than perfectly upright and facing straight forward (a problem made even worse if you have the audacity to wear headphones). To make matters worse still: the head rest digs in to your shoulders if you’re tall, causing you to hunch forward. The overall result being back and neck pain as well as a high degree of general discomfort on journeys of any length (I’ve travelled on it for journeys of 1 to 4h). PS. Depressingly, they have also gotten rid of the six-seat compartments in second class, which were my preferred way of travelling, as they offered an unparalleled level of quietness (or, if you and your fellow travellers were so inclined a good conversation) and if you were lucky and they were empty, turned into a private cabin perfect for relaxing (If so inclined, you could stretch out over the three seats) or getting work done on the big table.
As you are doing your walk-through of the train at the end of the video your train was descending the Geislinger Steige, a famous railway incline where freight trains are pushed up by banking locos (and passenger trains were in the past.) You should have looked outside to enjoy the view as in a few years time the trains will use a tunnel instead.
nice review ! but: min11sec58 - "privacy for (business) travellers" ... some proper curtains towards the corridor used to be standard on European trains for decades ... not just a blocked milk-glass for the driver ... a point - I fully understand, although of course a bit sad for interested travellers ... and: min12sec47 - SBB-rolling-stock far a IRE Stuttgart-Karlsruhe ? ... keep on travelling - best regards
Helloo, German ICE Lover here to comment :DD To answer your Question at 9:03 : Yes, the driver can decide if they want people to watch through the glass door, they have a special button to make the window blurry or clear. Unfortunately, nearly any ICE Driver wants his/her privacy and its unique to have a look through this window 🥲
Immunotherapy has affected my brain in highly specific ways. One of those areas is recognition. I cant tell the difference between most breeds of dogs, between brands of cars .... and I cant make out ANY difference betwen anyh of those BRxxx ICE trains. They all look the same to me.
Hello, I am a driver of these beautiful trains and I found your page coincidentally. To answer your question with the cockpit glas, yes, this can the driver change with a button.
Here’s something fascinating: the Acela from Boston to New Haven covers a slightly longer distance in a slightly faster time! I find this impressive because American “high-speed rail” is looked down upon by most of the world, but in this case it’s faster than its European counterpart.
That's why DB are buildung the Stuttgart-Ulm high speed line, cutting travel times from around 1h down to 30min on that stretch. Also, as Germany is so densely populated with many bis cities not far apart, you don't really need the fastest trains.
Munich Hbf has two world records: 1) When it was completed, the hall's flat roof was the largest cantilevered flat roof in the world; 2) The station still has the largest apron in the world. - Heinz
The DB will change soon (i don't know what "soon" means in DB langauge, probably 1 to 10 years) the hard seats. Many passangers are complaining about them, so to stop a turning away from the customers because of the hard seats, they will choose a more softer and probably pricier one.
Two aisle high speed train will be more stable, safely, faster, powerful, capacity in the future design, seat configuration can be: first class 1/2/1, business class 2/2/2, economy class 3/3/3. what do you think!
Lmao you prefer Stuttgart Hbf over Munich Hbf - in my opinion both are bad, and Stuttgart is completely rundown since there haven't been any repairs since the 90's due to the Stuttgart 21 project - which just isn't getting done..
@@Cal90208 Well, a lot of the IC1 cars here are from the 80's as well and therefore 40 years old.. - they're getting substantially redesigned now tho and retrofitted with WiFi but technically still 40 year old equipment..
The final leg of the trip involves using the 55 km Duisburg Essen Bochum Dortmund Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr first part Hauptstrecke München-Augsburg. If you want inside the cab The covered panel reveals Sifa LZB PZB switches.
Great trip report love the ICE trains that Germany have they are amazing I want to ride them myself one day especially to eat in the dining car and expérience the speeds too also this video is a flashback to how good things were before the world changed 😔
Greetings from Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (The Caribbean). You have such a cool job, entertaining the world, whilst traveling too and from, beautiful destinations at the same time. Love your videos , they always make miss traveling through Europe, keep up the good work, you will have millions of views.
(5:24) I recommend always having a double socket with you on German railway routes. :D - Heinz www.heise.de/mac-and-i/meldung/Doppelsteckdose-mit-HomeKit-4501384.html Are two sockets really so expensive DB would become bankrupt?
that see-through glass thing was also on the CRH3C and CRH380BG/BK/BL/CL(both from Siemens Velaro or Velaro derived) but it changed to the non see-though one like the ICE3, and the new CRRC standard EMUs, they just completely removed it, which makes the compartment extra claustrophobic
Back in 2014 I went to Germany and I rode on the ICE 3 from Cologne to Frankfurt. I actually got a chance to rode at the very front of the train and I could see the driver operating the train! The train conductor was also very kind and he even gave a toy ICE model train!
To answer the question at around 9:04, I believe the answer is yes, the driver can control the transparency of the partition. There's a button on the right side of the cab that switches between transparent and opaque, as seen in Train Sim World (assuming this is accurate, of course).
@Mr. VeryBadCop On my first trip on an ICE3 in Frankfurt I asked the driver if he could make the screen clear but he informed me it was "kaput". Half way thru the journey there was a driver change and the new driver made the screen clear so Kaput was a lie! Anyways I do recall reading that it is entirely up to the driver whether he makes it frosted or clear.
@@xtradel well, I will not blame the driver for seeking some privacy
@@haisheauspforte1632 And neither do I but don't lie and say it doesn't work when it clearly does.
@@xtradel you have a point.
It switches opaque if the emergency brake is engaged. That no passenger might see someone run over.
Germany will invest $ 100 billion in their rail network, especially interesting is the reactivation of disused rails.
I doubt that
@@flopunkt3665 NEWS
15 Jan 2020, 14:02 Benjamin Wehrmann
Transport ministry and Deutsche Bahn ink 86 billion euro investment contract
Transport
Clean Energy Wire
The German rail service Deutsche Bahn (DB) and the country's transport ministry (BMVI) have sealed a contract that will see investments in the state-owned company at a record 86 billion euros by 2030. "The 2020s will be a golden age for Deutsche Bahn," said transport minister Andreas Scheuer, calling the investments "the biggest modernisation programme that ever existed in Germany." The funds will be primarily used for updating grid infrastructure and train stations as well as gearing DB's power supply further towards renewables, the company said. Scheuer said a "strong railway" would lay the groundwork for "active climate protection in the transport sector." The government contributes 62 billion euros to the investment programme and DB another 24 billion, meaning that the company's annual budget available for replacements and maintenance increases by more than 50 percent compared to the last round of financing, said the ministry. DB said it plans to modernise about 2,000 kilometres of tracks every year and 2,000 railway bridges over the next decade.
The investments into DB were agreed upon in the framework of Germany's climate package in a bid to improve the country's lacklustre emissions reduction performance in the transport sector, which contrary to other sectors of the economy has not reduced its greenhouse gas output at all since 1990. In order to make train rides more attractive to customers, the government has also reduced taxes on train tickets and announced it would substantially increase funding of public transport services over the next decade. Deutsche Bahn said it would buy hundreds of new trains and also revive mothballed connections in a bid to lure and handle more passengers.
@@flopunkt3665 Why??
@@mstrmren I'm German and I assume you are probably very young or you don't live in Germany.
Our politicians have been promising for decades to increase spending on railways and improve the quality of rail services. But in reality things only got worse. I don't believe that the ones who have caused this situation will be the ones to solve that.
@@flopunkt3665 Ok, ok ich bin halt sehr optimistisch aber wenn du meinst...
I think, how a station looks like is rather uninteresting. It may matter if you do a report about munich station. But in this case it would be more interesting to tell facts about the stock, the cleanliness of the train, the appearence of the staff and the pricing in the bistro. All in all it was a good trip report. 👍
Interesting that you chose to ride this on... not really a high-speed line. I recommend riding the Frankfurt to Cologne line, it feels like a roller coaster!
Super fain
hahaha everyone hates the new ICE seats...
Very confusing with the back and forth comparisons.
2+ hrs for 200+ km. Typical DB.
1:21 I actually thought this was some sort of orchestral background music
That's the sound of traction motors- Siemens GTO-VVVF , search it on youtube you'll find plenty! :D
@@shubhampawaskar6443 Its beutiful to listen to. Sadly the ones going trough I think Switzerland and some other country dont have them because they have to use a different generation that doesnt have it anymore lol
@@jasmienkomugi9026 isn't OBB swiss? their Taurus does have it.
@@shubhampawaskar6443 ÖBB or OEBB (if you dont have the Ö) is Austrian (Österreich). Switzerland has as far as I know the SBB.
ÖBB=Österreichische Bundes bahenen (Austrian Federel railways)
SBB=Schweizerische Bundesbahnen. (Switz federal railway)
Weird tho. I know the 3rd generation Taurus (ÖBB 1216) dont have that scale music sound when departing.
@Shubham Pawaskar , it's not the traction motors, it's the old power converters with gate turn-off (GTO) thyristors, which are not effectively continuously adjustable like the more modern IGBT converters. Their step-by-step control logic makes it possible to clearly acoustically distinct between the different control frequencies, so that they sound like a scale.
Very important: Its pronounced: I-C-E and not ice
1:21 In case anyone is wondering what's making that sound, it's the sound of traction motors- Siemens GTO-VVVF. Taurus loco has them.
thanks captain obvious
Always happy when Simply Railway uploads!!
About your dislike of München Hbf. They are working on it. At the moment work is underway for a new main building and a new tunnel station vor S-Bahn trains. Also they will finally build a pedestrian tunnel between the platforms. With 32 platforms(not counting the 4 U-Bahn platforms) and two wing stations you have to walk quite a distance to change trains. Especially when arriving in one of the wing stations you will have to walk the whole length of the platform to get to the concourse and then walk back out on another platform. With the tunnel this will be massively improved.
They unfortunately won't tear down the main hall though. It's a protected monument. They'll only rebuild the station building. How anyone could've decided that such an ugly metal box has to be "protected" is beyond me...
@@leDespicable well post-war Germany really wasn´t drowning in cash so it had to be something cheap and functional. I don´t get why people always hate on 60s and 70s-style buildings
@@rubenvo3627 I'm not saying they should've build a baroque palace, of course they had to build something functional. What I don't get is when people nowadays try to protect this type of architecture. It was never built to last for eternity, those 60's and 70's style buildings were meant to be torn down and replaced by something better when the money was available. Putting something as bland as the main hall of Munich Central on a list of protected buildings is ridiculous when, at the same time, parts of Stuttgart Central - also a protected building - get torn down. Why is it allowed to demolish parts of a protected historical building, but when it comes to the grey box in Munich, those regulations suddenly have to be very strictly enforced...
@@leDespicable Well parts of the Bonatzbau simply had to be sacrificed to realise S21 but most importantly the main building will be refurbished - and I mean it really needed it. And the reason Munich too will be preserved is due to its significance from a engineering stand point. Why would you spend that money on looks when it could be used to improve other rail infastructure?
If Train Sim World 2 modeled ICE3 somewhat accurately, then yes, the driver can turn that glass panel opaque with a push of a button.
There's two routes for it DB BR406 ICE3M Schnellfahrstrecke Köln-Aachen DB BR403 ICE3
@@EpicThe112 hauptstrecke munchen Augsburg
Yep, the driver can do that. The ICE T (DB Br 411, 415) also has that. But the ICE 3 definitely isn't modeled accurately in TSW 2
Btw Munich Central Station is undergoing a redesign and the high-speed track between Stuttgart and Munich is under construction, with some parts going parallel to highway 8.
As a matter of fact both things you disliked about this trip are going to be improved. Munich main station is currently being refurbished and the seats on both ICE3 and ICE4 are going to be replaced (DB selected the new seats together with some selected costumers; so let's hope for the best :))
The seats only get a bit more padding
I actually don‘t know why everyone is disliking the seats, I sat in the for 5 hours and I had no problem with them.
@@mstrmren how tall are you
@@burgerpommes2001 1,80
@@mstrmren, if you're not long-legged, you shouldn't have a problem with the new seats. Also younger people have less problems than older ones.
12:45 An Austrian locomotive with Swiss coaches in a German train station :)
Thats ÖBB for ya XD
I really liked the ICE 3 Trains. It's a shame, that they put these bad seats from the ICE 4 in it. But the DB is working on it I heard. They choose a new seat model, which will replace these hard ones. I hope they will be as good (or quite better) than the old one, which were in it before they put these hard ones in it! Sorry for my bad English. I'm from Germany
They will not replace the bad ones with the new revision. They only started to upgrade the rest of the ICE3 fleet with the new revision.
Your English is just fine wish my German was as good as your English, personally I love the ice trains and when I go on a foreign holiday it’s always to Germany and when booking the holiday I immediately book the weekly ticket for the region I stay in this gives you trams regional trains and certain buses plus the ubahn, great value for the money
@@kobichief As far as I've heard, they're replacing all the bad seats
Sadly all modern trains and refurbishment have hard seats
The DB said before 1 or 2 years they will change the Seat because they got a lost of hate
I rode an ICE 4 last summer in 2nd class and the seats were much better than the one shown in the videos
@@Subgamer-lu4xv i dont know I was only in the ICE 3 Velaro D and in the ICE1
@@lordgermany7068 I think DB trys to match the seats in the whole fleet
@@Subgamer-lu4xv okay i know DB Fernferkehr has is iwn seats in the IC2 that are normal regional train seats, IC1 habe their own seats but there exist many special Waggons with their own seats, ICE 1 Velaro old ICE 3 ICE T have the same seats, ICE 2 habe bis own seats, new ICE 3 and 4 habe their own and Velaro Novo will have i them or i think so and probably the ECx will habe the same
I actually don‘t know why everyone is disliking the seats, I sat in the for 5 hours and I had no problem with them.
Munchen Hbf looks very beautiful! I think every train should have a bar-bistro car like this, it adds a nice touch, and you can escape from the bad seat😂
As always great video :)
I have a question, have you got take a luxembourg train?
Not yet
Another great video. I love the sounds of those traction motors as the locomotives accelerate out of the station. Always reminds me of my travels around Austria.
7:21 I remember that baggage racks really were lacking in the old cabin. In fact, the new seats are harder but I guess you won’t find any high sped service in Europe where you have as mach baggage space as in the redesigned ICE trains.
Unfortunately always when DB "redesigns" the interior of their trains it is much worse afterwards. The seats in the ICE3 were the best and the interior looked quite premium. Now they have installed these awful seats of the ICE4 and everything looks like the cheapest things you can find at IKEA: Especially in the 1st class the difference is big. I don't want to pay 1st class prices for my ticket and feel like I am travelling in a low budget train with fake wood and plastic
If you think those seats are bad try the class 800s in britain
Hi i love your videos so much and i HAVE a question: csn you do a trip Report from Frankfurt hbf to Kassel hbf on a flirt that would be cool
HLB? I think he mostly does long distance so idk why he should do a regional train.. But would be definatly interesting.
if you speak German: I can recommend the channel of “Lucas Michael”, he mainly does trip reports on regional trains within Germany. But only in German (voice over, not subtitles like here).
He also did a video of the HLB Flirt (on a different route though): th-cam.com/video/hixQ1hsgdcM/w-d-xo.html
Tu penses qu'il serait possible un jour ne pas seulement tester les trains spécifiques, mais faire une vidéo où tu compares les réseaux ferroviaires de différentes pays? Par exemple, la France et l'Allemagne ont des réseaux ferroviaires bien différents et je pense que ça donnerait du contenu intéressant d'en expliquer le pourquoi.
cant wait about I.C.E 1
The german High Speed is so bad... Bad speed (2h17 for 241km of Munich Stuttgart vs 1h02 for 220km of Paris-Lille...), bad comfort... The only good things are the bistro and the cleaness...
You should've taken a look at the track between Ulm and Stuttgart. There isn't high speed possible right now, the track is from the beginning of railroads. The geology in that area is highly complicated and not comparable with France. Steep and very curvy. That's the reason why it takes so long. You can't compare the track with new french rail lines...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fils_Valley_Railway
they're working on it, there are big time construction works on that route right now to improve the track speed and journey time. Obviously can't be fast right now, and wasn't fast on that track so far
Well there isn't much between Paris and Lille, just villages and farmland. Between Munich and Stuttgart there are several larger cities where the trains stop.
@@flopunkt3665 As example: Augsburg (296k inh.), Ulm-Neu-Ulm (186k inh.), Göppingen (260k inh.)
I love these train videos
Yess another Simply Railway video! Without a doubt best train reviewer on TH-cam!!!
3:07 Thanks for the recap ;) What makes the Dutch version your favorite one?
Just to let you know: the reason the DB still has catering onboard is because of the delays... Just kiddin' it is nice.
When a trip report about ICE 1?
This video was of course not uploaded but taped before Corona. Nowhere do I see people with masks. Good old times😭
You travelled from a giant construction site (Munich HBf.) to the mother of construction sites (Stuttgart 21).
There is a high speed line in construction between Stuttgart and Ulm for 250kmh that will open soon :)
jeez american trains SUCK compared to europe... great video!
9:22 From december 2021 the ICE trains will drive 250 kmph between Ulm and Stuttgart.
No 😭
In 5 years...
@@TravelALBERT Yes! The high speed route will open. What you mean is the new station!
You missed one ICE 3. The ICE T (BR 411 and BR 415) is also part of the ICE 3 Family.
Really ??
no
@@SimplyRailway No it's not. While they may look similar, there are some great differences. For example, the T series only has 5 or 7 coaches compared to the 8 of the ICE 3 family. It's also considerably slower at 230 km/h max compared to the 3 series 330 km/h. The T series also has a built in tilting system, granted it's no longer in use. Also the infamous Diesel ICE series TD was based on and part of the T series, while it had nothing to do with the 3 family.
I get why people mix up the two, they both were built around the same time originally and they look somewhat similar. But that's where the similarities end. The T series was especially built to be used on non modified conventional routes and that's exactly where they keep operating to this day. The 3 family was designed to be the flagship on the new high speed lines and they all share the same basics, 8 coaches (4 of them are propelled) with 5 2nd Class, 2 first class and one Bistro/Restaurant car and speeds up to 330 km/h. BR 403, 406, 407 and the new 408s (the 30 units ordered last summer) are part of it. The T series ( BR 411, 415 and 605 (the Diesel ICE) ) are they own odd little family.
The best seats in the ICE Family belong to the ICE 1
The trains may be the oldest in the series, but their refurbishments make it the most comfortable
It mainly travels from Cologne via Wuppertal, Hamm and Hannover to Berlin and connects in Hamm with a second wagon which started in Dusseldorf towards Berlin
You mean the ICE 2
@@thepunisher8089 it's actually a ICE 1, I used it almost every 3 weeks until covid
@@europaboi you can‘t connect two ICE 1 trains, you described the ICE 2
@@europaboi bist du aus Deutschland?
@@thepunisher8089 no, just traveled much because of studies
I love the Berlin to Munich sprinter line. Less than 4 hours and so smooth.
Here, though, I have to say that it's a cultural thing with seat firmness. Germans simply like harder seats better, and on long journeys it's certainly better for the back.
By the way, you can also see this in cars, French cars are much better padded and super comfortable for short distances but not for long ones.
Super widok 👍😘
Uwielbiam takie spacery i inne filmy niż moje 👌😊😘
A u mnie spacer po mieście 😊
Pozdrawiam serdecznie z Warszawy Polska 🇵🇱😘✋
Before the pandemics, I commuted quite often (several times per week) with the ICE3M between Cologne and Brussels.
I hope we will never get these uncomfortable seat on that line.
I tried them once between Frankfurt and Chur.... Never again (I hope...)
Post war 1950s/60s German architecture is fascinating. Always reminds me of Kraftwerk boarding at Dusseldorf Hbf.
Yes, concrete is a bit bland, but it's got a life the boring glass and steel blocks of later years don't have.
I wonder if the hard, thin seats came about as a response to the complaint about lack of luggage space. Since the carriages haven't become bigger, the number of seats possible has to shrink or the seats become thinner for that improvement for the luggage. A trade-off that also put that revised train on shorter routes, I suspect.
Will you check out Brightline when it opens to Orlando next year?
Of course ;)
The new seats are absolutely horrendous. They are rock-hard, the lower back support is in totally the wrong position for anyone of above average height (for reference: I’m 187cm) and the curvature of the seat and narrow head rest make it impossible to sit in any posture other than perfectly upright and facing straight forward (a problem made even worse if you have the audacity to wear headphones). To make matters worse still: the head rest digs in to your shoulders if you’re tall, causing you to hunch forward.
The overall result being back and neck pain as well as a high degree of general discomfort on journeys of any length (I’ve travelled on it for journeys of 1 to 4h).
PS. Depressingly, they have also gotten rid of the six-seat compartments in second class, which were my preferred way of travelling, as they offered an unparalleled level of quietness (or, if you and your fellow travellers were so inclined a good conversation) and if you were lucky and they were empty, turned into a private cabin perfect for relaxing (If so inclined, you could stretch out over the three seats) or getting work done on the big table.
As you are doing your walk-through of the train at the end of the video your train was descending the Geislinger Steige, a famous railway incline where freight trains are pushed up by banking locos (and passenger trains were in the past.) You should have looked outside to enjoy the view as in a few years time the trains will use a tunnel instead.
The seats are comparable with the Hitachi class 800's in the UK - they too are hard
nice review !
but: min11sec58 - "privacy for (business) travellers" ... some proper curtains towards the corridor used to be standard on European trains for decades ...
not just a blocked milk-glass for the driver ... a point - I fully understand, although of course a bit sad for interested travellers ...
and: min12sec47 - SBB-rolling-stock far a IRE Stuttgart-Karlsruhe ? ...
keep on travelling - best regards
Helloo, German ICE Lover here to comment :DD
To answer your Question at 9:03 :
Yes, the driver can decide if they want people to watch through the glass door, they have a special button to make the window blurry or clear. Unfortunately, nearly any ICE Driver wants his/her privacy and its unique to have a look through this window 🥲
Immunotherapy has affected my brain in highly specific ways. One of those areas is recognition. I cant tell the difference between most breeds of dogs, between brands of cars .... and I cant make out ANY difference betwen anyh of those BRxxx ICE trains. They all look the same to me.
Oi can I tell you something guys? Comment on me when I cam to Germany I like the ice trains and when I grow up I will be there for 13 years ok?
Hello, I am a driver of these beautiful trains and I found your page coincidentally. To answer your question with the cockpit glas, yes, this can the driver change with a button.
They should have deployed it on the berlin Munich route instead which have high speed lines to amplify its advantage of higher speed.
I love the interior, it’s so comfortable for traveling such a long distance!
Ever since I visited and traveled aboard ICE and heard local Germans Pronounce ICE "Etzi" and U Bahn " "Ooh Bahn " I say the same today 😄
Do the wifi onboard fast enough for streaming videos on this route?
München HBF will be completly rebuild. They startet it already together with a new S-Bahn Tunnel for the city
Here’s something fascinating: the Acela from Boston to New Haven covers a slightly longer distance in a slightly faster time! I find this impressive because American “high-speed rail” is looked down upon by most of the world, but in this case it’s faster than its European counterpart.
Acela' European counterpart is French, though. It is based from TGV. France have more dedicated high speed lines than Germany.
That's why DB are buildung the Stuttgart-Ulm high speed line, cutting travel times from around 1h down to 30min on that stretch. Also, as Germany is so densely populated with many bis cities not far apart, you don't really need the fastest trains.
@@jonasbaumgart4933 The fastest trains are best for the biggest cities, though.
How is it impressive though?
yeah but then after Stuttgart it goes to 300kph till Frankfurt, the Acela stays slower
i psy thst price for 70 mile journey from London Terminals to Herne Bay . To say UK trains are expensive is a understatement
Munich Hbf has two world records: 1) When it was completed, the hall's flat roof was the largest cantilevered flat roof in the world; 2) The station still has the largest apron in the world. - Heinz
The best seats are the Original seats in the ICE 1 ...before redesign...very kompfortale and wide
Was just was in Munich last year! Was hoping you would go to the fun model train shop on track 11 😁
Loved riding the ice train in 2008. And we will do it again, soon.
Running on mixed traffic classic lines will add significant delays to most journeys.
Les sièges en 1ere classe sont-ils plus souples ? Sind die Sitze der 1. Klasse weicher ?
Great looking train, but the seats look cheap and crowded.
Excellent video!!! As always! I have a question: are you going to made a trip report on a high speed train in Morroco?
He already did that
I love Sttugart Germany good memories all😘
Boa viagem ai simply icae trem bala interior legal
The DB will change soon (i don't know what "soon" means in DB langauge, probably 1 to 10 years) the hard seats. Many passangers are complaining about them, so to stop a turning away from the customers because of the hard seats, they will choose a more softer and probably pricier one.
Two aisle high speed train will be more stable, safely, faster, powerful, capacity in the future design, seat configuration can be: first class 1/2/1, business class 2/2/2, economy class 3/3/3. what do you think!
Unless you make the entire track wider this isn't going to happen. Especially since you want a small front as air resistance is a thing.
Lmao you prefer Stuttgart Hbf over Munich Hbf - in my opinion both are bad, and Stuttgart is completely rundown since there haven't been any repairs since the 90's due to the Stuttgart 21 project - which just isn't getting done..
Meanwhile Amtrak operating 40 year old equipment
@@Cal90208 Well, a lot of the IC1 cars here are from the 80's as well and therefore 40 years old.. - they're getting substantially redesigned now tho and retrofitted with WiFi but technically still 40 year old equipment..
@@connectingwings7212 Wish Amtrak was doing that...
Both have got nothing on Leipzig Hbf 🥰
@@NonstopEurotrip Lol is there a topic rule that I’m not aware of?
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Hi!
The good thing on this redesign is that the speed is permanently on the monitor
To be fair if those are new seats they need to be used before they get softer
The old seats are so much better and way more comfortable
"- narrow and hard- ": welcome to German standarts
You should maybe start reviewing light rail and metro networks. Maybe as an April fools joke.
in the lower station in munich there is a shopping mall
That’s like taking the Concord over land and not being able to fly supersonic.
Germany isn't France. He just shows the reality of train travel in Germany where there is just a few fractions of real high speed tracks.
The final leg of the trip involves using the 55 km Duisburg Essen Bochum Dortmund Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr first part Hauptstrecke München-Augsburg. If you want inside the cab The covered panel reveals Sifa LZB PZB switches.
Great video!
13:31 You filmes a prominent person: this is the Minister of enviroment,climate and energy economics in Baden Württemberg Mr.Franz Untersteller! 😂😂
Great trip report love the ICE trains that Germany have they are amazing I want to ride them myself one day especially to eat in the dining car and expérience the speeds too also this video is a flashback to how good things were before the world changed 😔
how late was the train?
Have you done the ICE 1/2?
Awesome vid!
D said that they are gonna improve the train
Haha I love the shirt man!
Why are the trains not accessible?
LOVEIY TRAIN SERVICE OF GERMAN
As an American, the name's cursed
Greetings from Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (The Caribbean). You have such a cool job, entertaining the world, whilst traveling too and from, beautiful destinations at the same time. Love your videos , they always make miss traveling through Europe, keep up the good work, you will have millions of views.
(5:24) I recommend always having a double socket with you on German railway routes. :D - Heinz
www.heise.de/mac-and-i/meldung/Doppelsteckdose-mit-HomeKit-4501384.html
Are two sockets really so expensive DB would become bankrupt?
that see-through glass thing was also on the CRH3C and CRH380BG/BK/BL/CL(both from Siemens Velaro or Velaro derived) but it changed to the non see-though one like the ICE3, and the new CRRC standard EMUs, they just completely removed it, which makes the compartment extra claustrophobic