Testing Drag Radials vs Street Tires - Are They Worth It?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- Ever wondered the performance difference between drag radials and street tires? Well now we know :)
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Running with socks on a wooden floor and summer tires on a hellcat is probably the best analogy I've heard 😂😂👌🏽
NickXIX right? lol
Bubba Blue he hit it spot on 😂
Decent amount of power really bro? 707 is a lot of hp
Hilarious! I agree!
Try soap on a trampoline
Only in America is 707 hp a "decent" amount of power 🤣
Chronic Adventures makes a change from the 5 litre engines doing 150 HP. 😁
@@ukfrosty learn to spell swine
Merica !!
Murica!!!!!!!
@@emiliano29171316 learn to learn, you dunce. Five seconds on Google could have saved you from looking ignorant.
Hi Riley, I am an old drag racer that has a '17 hell charger (I am 65 year old) . On stock tires at 2500 ft above sea level (the stock perrillies summers like yours) I turned a 4.0 (still on my recorder) on the street. My Trick? Use street suspension like you did for a little bit of weight transfer. BUT at the stop, put the trans into mann, use the paddle to shift it into 2nd before starting, yes start in 2nd. As soon as you come out of the hole, shift to auto b/c it can react quicker than you can (as you showed in one of your old videos with your charger) and then let it eat! You won't get the wheel hop you are getting either. Every hop slows the time downI just installed the Auttro 295/40/20s on the rear and now back at home in FL at sea level so will be going out soon for more 0 to 60s
Joe Henry Joe you don't need to put it in full manual then shift back ...just come to a stop and left paddle to 1st then right paddle to 2nd and go it will then shift the next gear on its own at max rpm it can ..Also another trick with A8 Hellcat is roll any speed and hold that speed - say 40mph in auto mode then hold the Left paddle the car will go down to the lowest gear it sees fit - let go of paddle and just mash the pedal it will again go through the gear box and won't short shift either its roll race mode
MrRevinto7 good info
I have 295s on my rear what psi should the rear be and the front is stock?!
"...and then let it eat!" lol i love it. Thats solid advice right there.
If you ever get advice from "an old drag racer", listen to him. They know tips and tricks that have been forgotten along the way and can give you an edge.
The amount of america in the first 0:30 secs is amazing
Has 707 hp
Says it’s a “decent amount of power” 😂
PC Master Race 707 to the crank
I got 3.1 0-60 on Mickeys in my stock charger this weekend. So you can get a lot better at the track.
@Jose Carranza Polio challenger ofc
@Jose Carranza Polio Not much difference . Challenger set up just like a Charger is probably only a 1/10 or 2 different. They both are great. My Hellcat Charger ran 10.80s on drag pack with 2.9 0-60 at the strip.
@Jose Carranza Polio Stock with aftermarket drag race wheels
@Jose Carranza Polio My wife wanted a 4 door. HEHE!. I have Redeye Challenger now though:)
What was the the tire specs / / / numbers #s
With the same Mickey Thompson tire you have; I did a 2.9 zero to sixty in my 2016 Challenger Hellcat A8. Lower the air pressure to 14.5 lbs, and hold on!!
When subtitles are on when the car starts and is idling it says “music”
Exactly TH-cam, exactly 👌🏼
Hey Riley! Get the continental Extreme contact sports. Drag radials are good for the track with their bad in rain, bad in cornering and most times loud and uncomfortable. I like the extreme contact sports as they are wicked good in dry weather as well as wet! They also corner and handle amazing and have a top speed rating of 188! Love the wrap bro!
As soon as I wear through the stock tires I'll definitely be looking into those! Had em on my 2014 Charger and loved them!
M&H Radials are pretty damn nice.
I have the older DWs and is it just me or do those tires have super soft sidewalls? It makes the car feel like the car is rolling. They do have amazing grip in wet and dry and were way cheaper than Michelin Pilot SS at least for 19s.
Road Slow 720 They do feel soft in sidewall. I ran them +2psi. I thought they had more bite than SS . My personal favorite
Yeah I'd say they make a bit of a difference, LOL. Now we just need to get your car on a track in decent conditions!
Mason representing
I think with any rwd/fwd gas powered cars with 400whp that drag radials are essential. I prefer nitto 555r’s as they last a lot longer, and can be driven in the rain.
How good in the rain?
@@mpresto15 they’re okay depending on how cold it is, and how worn they are. I drove it in the rain multiple times
Fwd you are probably right, in my m6 v10 I have around 600hp or 500whp and I still don't think I need drag tires. I think 600whp for rwd is good for a drag setup.
Shoulda kept this car...soo cool dude!😎
J G ikkkk
I’m only 17 and i’m saving up to get a charger scat pack. Can’t wait!
Why so you can drive like an idiot and endanger people on the road?
drake man no so he can get your mom
Might as well save up for a down payment on a hellcat
Christopher Johnston save up extra cash and get a hellcat
drake man so he can pick up your sister 😂
Great Video. Less of a heater on the DR's, Mickey Thompson recommends a minimal burnout. Other than that, ever hear of MASKING TAPE? Saves most of the rubber cleanup after.
I love the drag setup. One thing you need that would almost make that car complete is a damn high performance cam and also you need to add Flowmaster 40 series and H pipes. Those three options would make that car scream like a 60s muscle car
Lol yeah it's crazy that they come stock with 275s, and is the first thing that I would changeout if I ever got a cat. The 295s that I have on my challenger SRT8 are bad enough as it is, and is hard to control
Did you have to put spacers on for the 295s to fit ?
@@jfresher925 no, they fit great and am getting ready to purchase a set of MT 315 drag radials. Which I've heard works without a spacer as well, but will make sure before I actually place the order
@@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374 ok thanks for responding back i just ordered some 275s nitto nt555 for the rear and im thinking about going a lil bigger in the future right now i have the stock 245s
@@jfresher925 wow scats come with 245s ?, I didn't know that and is also way too narrow for the power that the 6.4 produces. Yeah you would be fine with 295s bud and may be able to go even fatter, but would check into that before I made any purchases like I said
@@independent2368 yeah scats come with 245s and my next tires after i put on these 275s will be 295s for sure
Nice video 👍🏻 I’ve always wondered what the difference truly was lol I’m not gonna get them for my mustang now, but for the coming Shelby yes 😎
NEVER get caught in the rain with those MTs! I was in a light drizzle going 40 mph and not accelerating whatsoever. My mustang completely 360° into the ditch . The MTs hook great for track use but for dual purpose street use , the nitto 555 DR's which will be safe in a rain and still hook well on the track and street.
My father in law did the EXACT same thing with his Chevelle.
Yup you are on point
I just don’t like the life of the tires, shits don’t last at all.
Its not just about having 400+ hp if you're blowing through your tires on your launch then radials or sticky tires are gonna help. I make 220hp and 250tq at the wheels but my car weighs 2700lbs so it blows the tires off all of first gear and into 2nd.
Facts
Facts
what rpm did you launch at and what was the traction control on
Better change out the driveshaft next RP
ALL 4 FUN and add a diff brace
“Running with socks on a wooden floor” also describes any FWD car making more than 300whp and 350wtq. Don’t ask me how I know… 🤫
Very fun bid vid with some very great analogies.
3 tenths off 1/4 mile for every tenth of 60’ is rule of thumb.
Owens Racing that's only for a perfect run all the way thru
It's more like 2 tenths.
That’s crazy lol that my Camaro stock is 455hp & with stock tires my 0-60 best run was 4.4 seconds so I’m excited as to what these might do for me 😈
One of the best auto videos on the tube
So u mean to tell me that you just figured out that that drag radials give u faster drag times.... 😂😂😂😂😂 holy shit.... ur special.
Thanks for posting this. I have been going back and forth on whether or not to get DRs. I was able to manage 4.3 seconds on my Conti Extreme Contact Sports with no burnout but I am running 315/35 20s on 10.5 inch wheels in the back on my Charger. Although instead of going the DR route I'm now contemplating getting a setup of straight slicks for the track on 18s. Decisions decisions.
Honestly, tires are the most important mod in any vehicle whether it’s drifting, drag, rally etc. tires are sooooo important I cannot express this enough.
Glad I seen this, I'm going to try 4 of them in 17 inch on my truck next season
Next time, apply wax to the quarters behind the wheels. When you're done blowing chunks of rubber off the tires is makes cleaning up much easier
People really underestimate the importance of tires. I see guys running crazy engines and big brake kits but the cheapest tires they could find at tirerack in their size...
Riley check out Road Warrior paint protection for your lower rear area. Roll it on, let it dry, all the rubber sticks to it, not your paint, get it wet, peel it off, your done.
I loved this video. It helped me decide on what I wanted to do.
Very informative video sir!
The dodge demon has near drag radials as standard! That’s crazy!
Great results. very cool indeed.
also love the new black wheels for the drag radials much better. looks so cool with your cool wrap and white body.😎👍
maybe get a pair to match for front now.😎
Could you daily these with stock 20’s up front? I know this is late, but I just got the same setup for my 2018 Scatpack
Stick these on basically an FWD racecar and you will actually feel such a difference
New drag radials ordered today. Can’t wait to see the difference 👍
Was there a difference? And also is it good for the streets
Get the JLT splash shields! They'll protect the body from all that tire mess. I got em on my Daytona 392 and work like a champ! No crap on my car when I do a burnout or track days.
Great vid btw, def gonna get that DR combo for next season.
What were the Drag tires used in the video exactly?
Love the content man...keep up the good work ✊🏾
This test should have been done with tires the same size. Of course going from a 275 to a 305 in of itself should be better. If you're trying to confirm whether a drag radial is better, you should be comparing it to the same size summer tire you're using. Otherwise decent test.
Wish you'd have discussed the price diff for us not in the know.
Thank you for the video my dude!
Drs and drive shaft are a must for these cars. And even then u got to learn how to launch
On 20" Invos, in my gt500 I can get 4.2-4.5 0-60
Always Entertaining!
Started to black out when you started doing math
same
Eric Villa Lmfao
😂
Woke up watching something else lol
Then you don't even want to get into suspension tuning
My Mustang does 4.6 on a perfect launch with 100% grip on my Michelin Pilot SuperSports. Just goes to show how much quicker a Hellcat is than a basic Mustang GT...
I wish It would have Compared tires of the same demsions.
Wow that difference is LEGIT
you said you were going to keep everything the same. Did you do a burnout with the stock radials on? Or did you just use the heat from the drive to the spot?
They had a few failed passed on them before the 4.6 shown in the video. So basically 2-3 small rolling burnouts on the street tires lol
You don't burnout on regular street tires.
Appreciate the video. Great info
Hell yea awesome video!
I’m getting those for my hellcat for the next season for sure
Shit, 4.5 to 3.7 is pretty damn good. A little wheel spin just might save you from exploding your U joints, axles , differential , trans.....I just ordered a set of MT drag radials after using ET Streets at the track for the past 20 years and if these things work this good on a 700 HP car, they've gotta work pretty good on a 400 HP car. Anything has to be better than the street radials.
If youre ever in Dallas look me up. I have a boosted v6 puttng down 4.4 0-60
Awesome test bro, what PSI was the tires at ?
That first video going into this video should be ya intro or ending video that was cool as sht
Buy some weld wheels
I get a consistent 3.6...3.7 with nittos on the street when it's hot out .
I know you already mentioned you could do a better 0-60 with the street tires. But 4.7 is a horrible 0-60 for a hellcat, especially considering a stock R/T challenger with a CAI can do 4.9 lmao and a stock scat pack does 4.2.
Traction.
Have the same wheels and tires on my sister's challenger.. on the street they are still pretty worthless on her set up.. at the track they're amazing.
I did 3.6 in my A8 scat on those same exact wheels/DRs on the street yesterday.
Can you make a video with the same comparison but on a dyno to see if the softer compound can alter dyno results?
No
put zl1 rock guards on your car they really work
Wish he ran at least the same width tires. Because now we are also comparing new tires that are 1-1/2" wider.
As a muscle noob what needs to be done in order to fit the larger 305 on the rear? Obviously new set of wheels and the tires but is anything else needed or are these kind of "plug and play"? I am just curious!
Love it how a hellcat challenger can hang or I bet has more H.P. compared to the Porsche GT
Decent amount of power LOL 😂
Omg I saw ur channel and the challenger and was like itnsta sub
Great vid, question what kind of wheels you had in the rear with the M/T what speciations?? Thanks
Let me know how those do in the long run (The drag radials/Mickey Thompson ET Street Rs), because I'm looking at getting them in a 17 inch!
I'm interested to know as well! So far they've been great but they will be seeing a lot more use soon.
I got the exact same setup but can i drive daily on them?? Never know when i got to race those mustangs, gotta be ready all the time lol
What do you think about a decent size for a 550i gt bmw? I have a very similar 0-60 as you but I can not run smaller than 20” wheel due to the brakes. Currently have Pirelli 275/35/20 RF’s not ideal obviously with the stiffer run flat side walls however it is my daily w/o a spare. So with that being said, how much taller should my drag radial be? I have roughly 2.5” of taller tire clearance at a stand still.
What’s your drag radial setup?
Thats the same brand of drag radial that im thinking of getting for my widebody hellcat. Just wondering if i can use my stock wheel.
For your widebody definitely!
Wouldn't recommend daily driving these though. One puddle and you're in for a surprise lol
RP Productions lol gotcha. It sounds like im going to eventually need another set of wheels for the rear And swap them when needed. I just wish i could find a matching set of my existing wheels but that will be tough. My other option is to just throw on the drag radials in the spring since i don't need to drive the car when it rains. Congrats on your success on your channel man. Im sure you will hit 100k before you know it. If you have any tips or advice on how i can grow my channel faster let me know. Thanks man
Try leaving TC on once. It seriously improved my 0 to 60.
I did a 4.3 in my stock RT :3
I see a broken driveshaft in your future? Did you upgrade it?
make sure you tuck your suspension wires on the drivers side or the smaller rims will rub a hole in the wire over time
Found it funny at 0:35 that you called 707 horsepower a “decent amount of power.”
I love it very good my boy Riley
“If I do say so myself” like he did something more than order them online 😅
Maybe i didn't catch it. But what size tires and rims did you use for the drag radials?
Wheel hop = Let off the gas. Unless you do not like your half-shafts... The stock tire 0-60 pull was wheel hopping the whole time.
A while back you spoke about atturo az850s on your Scat pack, would those tires on a modified RT(headers, exhaust, intake) be better then the continentials you ran on your RT in the same size(275). Again I know your not an expert but from your experience I was wondering which you thought gripped better. I am spinning for the better part of the first 2 seconds on my 0-60 pulls and cant get better then a 6.0 (Nauseating I know)
Are both sets of tires the same diameter? How would this have affected your indicated speed and your true performance?
Nevermind...posted before I got to the end of the video. ;)
I have a 16 mustang gt , an intake , Bigger throttle body and a tune , would it be worth to spend the extra money on some nittos nt555r or just get some less expensive street tires
2.2 sec 60' vs. 1.6 sec 60' is about 2 sec difference in 1/4 mile time, it's huge.
not for the same car...
Launch in 2nd gear...
Can someone please clarify the set up he’s running with the MT. Is that on a stock Rim size and did he
Keep 275s on front?
HOW DID U GO about ur tire sensor light???
Are u using launch control? An do u floor it or do half way then floor it
You really can't generalize street tires and DR's. There are many different street tires with a wide range of performance capabilities. As there is with different DR's.
Tire pressures on street and DR tires?
God that intro was awesome
Oh!!?? Do the 18" wheels fit ok on the rear of the Challenger?
Do you think these tires will be good for my 392 challenger?