Can Justin Herbert Be ELITE? | 2024 Deep Dive

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  • @Broshmo
    @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

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    • @richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969
      @richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll donate to trim your beard, but I'm waiting for you to man up against either Alex or me when we play Miami in the ACC.

  • @pedrop99969
    @pedrop99969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Justin Herbert is already elite he just needs a dam Defense

  • @1stboltfan814
    @1stboltfan814 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Herbert is already elite

    • @haydengobel
      @haydengobel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Agreed. Video should be been titled “can the chargers be elite”

    • @rickpeterson8825
      @rickpeterson8825 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@haydengobel As a Chargers fan 42 years I couldn't agree more!

    • @richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969
      @richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brohsmo still thinks the Miami Hurricanes are elite in College Football -- even after Miami chit the bed and made a HISTORICALLY STUPID world-class blunder by not taking a knee against Georgia Tech.

    • @AndyBbtw
      @AndyBbtw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      whats ur definition of elite

    • @richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969
      @richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AndyBbtw top 5 to top 10 at worst -- Trevor Lawrence isn't even top 15 with a top level coach.

  • @haydengobel
    @haydengobel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Nick Hardwick wasn’t “retained”, he was hired by Harbaugh. It’s his first season on an NFL coaching staff..

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah meant to say he was a former charger

  • @todaywaspretty6309
    @todaywaspretty6309 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Pretty sure herbo fractured the finger on his throwing hand against the broncos which ended his season. The other finger injury was his non throwing hand and was a compound fracture (bone sticking out of the skin)

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah your right it was different hands...the last one was on the throwing hand

  • @richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969
    @richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Already elite, unlike Trevor that is a monster bust -- don't think Trevor will be top 15 after his joke contract.

  • @carlosbermudez8721
    @carlosbermudez8721 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The fact that you have Tuli over Joey is insane even though I believe Tuli is a future star. A healthy Joey is a problem

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You didn't watch the video!!! Why comment on my opinion when you have no idea what my opinion is? It just makes yourself look foolish.

    • @carlosbermudez8721
      @carlosbermudez8721 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Broshmo I watched the entire video sir and you’re entitled to your opinion. However having Tuli over Joey is just factually incorrect. Tuli will get a ton of reps especially in obvious rushing downs when they remove all Data from the field as use the NASCAR package ( Joey, Mack, Tuli and Dupree) but Joey is the starter until he isn’t on the team.

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn't say Bosa wouldn't be the starter in the video nor did I say Tuli would start over him. These are all factual incorrect on your part, so did you watch the video?

  • @haydengobel
    @haydengobel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Also, it looks like Trey Pipkins be sliding inside and playing RG instead of Jamaree Salyer (as of right now).

  • @TwoCentPeanutGallery
    @TwoCentPeanutGallery 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Justin Herbert is already Elite. Unpopular opinion, but I think he's the best quarterback in the league hands down he's also dealt with more adversity than any other starting quarterback in the league.

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How is he better than Mahomes?

    • @TwoCentPeanutGallery
      @TwoCentPeanutGallery 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Broshmo He can make throws that mahome's cant, as Mahomes himself has said. That wasn't being humble that was being genuine Mahomes Doesn't have The saint strength in the arm is Herbert and. can't make certain throws off balance While being tackled. the distance that Herbert can. Herbert is able to knock out line backers, Something mahome's could only dream of ever doing. He doesn't panic as much Far more patient in the pocket and can run, Go watch him snatch and max crosby ankles on the regular. he doesn't throw as many interceptions. People tend to forget how many of mahomes most egregious interceptions gets over turned. He throws a lot more than are on his stats. Mahomes has also is lucky to be able to benefit from continuity Something Justin Herbert herbert hasn't been privileged to have Herbert has also had to accomplish all of his accolades. without his number 1 and 2 wide receivers. And without a home field advantage Meaning he's always having to use silent counts Which causes miscommunication and mistakes. Let's not forget he hasn't had a decent oline to protect him a decent run game To set up his throws. And his whole He's always played with a bottom of the league defense and terrible coaching.
      It's safe to say even if you don't think Herbert is better, he certainly has Dealt with more adversity and disadvantages in the NFL. And I think that makes his accomplishments all the more impressive.
      Last but not least he Presents himself as a man. he doesn't Constantly whine and cry to the officials like Mahomes.

    • @LightiningHobo
      @LightiningHobo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TwoCentPeanutGallery Herbert's problem is that he has been injured the past two seasons. That affects production and wins. So people are sleeping on him. He's elite now, but people only call someone elite post-fact. He needs to put up numbers and win an upset at the postseason for people to pay attention. It will happen.

    • @rickpeterson8825
      @rickpeterson8825 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm a Chargers 42 years, and I mentioned that to make the point of I'm not a "casual" bc im about to hear the bs! Herbert is elite, but he isn't better than Mahomes,

    • @rickpeterson8825
      @rickpeterson8825 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@LightiningHoboThe first season with injuries didn't even matter and he had fractured rib cartilage and a torn labrum and led his team to the playoffs !And that loss wasn't on Herbert!

  • @Komodo8215
    @Komodo8215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He already is elite. Very few QB’s could have been as good as herbert under a Brandon Staley regime.

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      need to be able to win in the playoffs to be elite...thats why few quarterback are

    • @Komodo8215
      @Komodo8215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Broshmo I don’t judge that way if a QB has a coach like Staley and no supporting cast. Herbert had the 28th ranked Defense, no Oline, No running game, half the team always injured.

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's just last season though. Herbert is certainly responsible for keeping this team competitive but he has had his fair share of down games. Obviously postseason success isn't the biggest indicator but usually elite QBs have some success in the playoffs. They are able to lift their team even when parts of it are failing. Don't get me wrong I think Herbert is on the brink of elite but not quite there.

  • @giamarshall6323
    @giamarshall6323 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    He is already elite this is a wasted show

    • @giamarshall6323
      @giamarshall6323 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Herbert has the most passing yards and second-most touchdown passes by any player through three seasons in NFL history. Only Dan Marino had more touchdown passes through three seasons... not to mention various other records. Dude’s jersey was already hangs in the hall of fame.. so stop the foolishness

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Talk about his postseason success?

    • @christianwoolley4740
      @christianwoolley4740 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Post season success falls on team not on just the Qb saying post season success isn't an argument when you have one of the worst defenses in the entire league and one of the worst rushing attacks as well when herbo is your leading rusher on your team per carry there is an issue but if you wanna talk elite herbo in his first 4 seasons compared to every qb all time is 1st in yards 2rd in tds and 3nd in yards per game soooo....

    • @justinchristmas1226
      @justinchristmas1226 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@christianwoolley474028 (fifth worse) since Justin been the league , I can’t wait till Justin and Jim take this team to another lever , it gives me that spurs (2000’s ) vibe , boring but will win games

    • @christianwoolley4740
      @christianwoolley4740 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@justinchristmas1226 exactly my point justin hasn't been the problem and has put up elite caliber numbers in spite of multiple offensive coach changes a failing staff a leaky defense and rarely comes to show rush attack and people can talk playoffs and records but then again how many of those are 1 score games how do you think they got there XD all herbo that's an elite qb legitlly carrying a team only difference is his team fails him while other teams don't fail thier qb nearly as hard another good stat to look at is the fact that to win a game herbert has to throw 5 tds to win a game all while also being one of the most blitzed qbs in the league XD

  • @michaelhaasboltman
    @michaelhaasboltman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stick to covering your own team, because clearly you don’t really know the players on the Chargers very well. You make it sound like the o-line is going to be below average, and that’s not the case at all. Alt will be just fine at right tackle, Johnson and Pipkins will be good at guard, and the center will be okay as well. The unit should be a top 10 group.. it’s the defense- specifically the defensive backs- that we don’t know how good they will be.
    They will go 10-7 or better..

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh please enlighten me oh wise one 🙄 how many years have I heard the Chargers are going to be good for them to fall short of expectations. You really need to be willing to hear opinions you disagree with instead of crying ignorance. Obviously I do know what I'm talking about. Doesn't mean it's going to be right but what a lame response buddy 😮‍💨

  • @richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969
    @richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can't wait for the Mustangs to play Miami or GT -- have to challenge Brohsmo to trim his beard, especially after Tech made Miami look like an historic fool.

  • @cyrustahmasebi1748
    @cyrustahmasebi1748 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    C pass rush is a little disrespectful to Mack and boss

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's more of a reflection on the interior and Bosa just doesn't stay healthy. This is in reflection of the rest of the league.

  • @Sloppenheimer776
    @Sloppenheimer776 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Minter has been using Henley in Nickel packages. Being in a position to use Perryman, Henley, and Colson

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Henley in sub-packages makes all the sense in the world. It'll alleviate the wear and tear on Perryman.

  • @rickpeterson8825
    @rickpeterson8825 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People are slow, why do people think they took 3 wr's in the draft? Its a balanced offense not a RUN OFFENSE! Its balanced!

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They took two WRs in the seventh round. Let's be honest 😂 people out here think late day 3 players means that a team "invested" in the position when it's more throwing crap at the wall hoping something sticks.

  • @rickpeterson8825
    @rickpeterson8825 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fulton is gonna possibly not even make the team , hes been getting beat by UDFA's lol

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's probably for the better

  • @andrewseth2
    @andrewseth2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Before you make a video about my team. Know what you’re talking about

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What didn't I know? I'm not going to insult your knowledge of the team but I have a good feeling that you just disagree and wanted to be rude on the Internet.

  • @estevanp1111
    @estevanp1111 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He is Elite! 🤦‍♂️

  • @gavinbarkley1625
    @gavinbarkley1625 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Miami dolphins OL legend, Terrion Arnold

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Playing tackle at 190...what a stud

    • @KobeWan-Ginobili
      @KobeWan-Ginobili 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Terron Armstead lol. I was trippin for a sec too 😅

  • @dillon_cole
    @dillon_cole 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So far, its been looking like Trey Pipkins will be moving to right guard and starting over jamaree from mini-camp

  • @GreenShark-hn7pk
    @GreenShark-hn7pk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    He will not have as much opportunity because Jim Harbaugh wants to run the ball a lot so I don’t think he will have as big stats as he normally does

    • @ceefriss
      @ceefriss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you got it all wrong, herbo is going to have a stable run game, yes he’s not going to be throwing the ball 40 times a game but Greg Roman is going to utilize play action with tight ends to open up big shots in the middle of the field, herbo is going to have lots of YAC this year also

    • @josephminami9694
      @josephminami9694 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      More competent run game does not = worse pass game. Literally the opposite.

    • @haydengobel
      @haydengobel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josephminami9694seems incomprehensible to some

    • @anti-classist
      @anti-classist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He's going to have higher yards per throw but lower throws... likely slightly lower completion percentage as he throws more big throws.

    • @haydengobel
      @haydengobel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anti-classist I think his completion will go up

  • @KobeWan-Ginobili
    @KobeWan-Ginobili 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    O Line is as follows. LT: Rashawn Slater, LG: Zion Johnson, C: Bradley Bozeman, RG: Trey Pipkins, RT: Joe Alt. Herbert w protection? Very scary ⚡️

  • @rajay777
    @rajay777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trey Pipkins at RG - should be an upgrade.
    Looking for Zion Johnson to take a step forward.
    Show art at right tackle should be an upgrade.
    Boseman at center should be an upgrade since we didn’t have a center last year. I think our blocking is going to be much better than he predicts but he’s covering all 32 teams so the depths of knowledge doesn’t seem very good at this point.
    Also, the addition of Ladd McConkey and DJ chart could have the wide receiver room better than he expects especially if Quentin Johnson is used properly and takes a step forward. If healthy, Gus Edwards and Dobbins could make this an excellent running back room with the addition of Vidal.

  • @age3398
    @age3398 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dont underestimate the harbaugh effect. He didn't have a ton of top end talent on that Michigan team last year. He understands how to use players and get the best out of them. Herbert is arguably the best qb he's ever coached (Andrew Luck) . Cant overlook the importance of having a competent head coach.

  • @demeatreuseddins3944
    @demeatreuseddins3944 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Herbert is the 4th best qb his scheme and chargers suck they sucked with rivers they don’t have a qb problem and haven’t it’s always been a play calling thing

  • @age3398
    @age3398 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ben Herbert may be one our most overlooked hires. He could really be the x factor as far as this team staying healthy and finishing games in the 4th quarter.

  • @chargerboy411
    @chargerboy411 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not worry about Justin doing Justin things he Is proven he can play good offense even when all his weapons were out due to injuries . I'm worried about the defense and coaching not coaching right for when the 4th quarter comes cause the defense is tired and the coach doesn't know how to use the timeouts

  • @age3398
    @age3398 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have reason to believe that a lot of the problems on defense were scheme related and a misuse of personel. After staley was fired the defense stepped up and became one of the better defenses in the league.

  • @AndyBbtw
    @AndyBbtw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    assuming ur goin alphabetically, its gonna take so long for the steelers video 😭

  • @michaelrz742
    @michaelrz742 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Herbert is not elite has been to one playoff got whooped and has never one at least one playoff theres qbs that have at least won a playoff

  • @LightiningHobo
    @LightiningHobo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's a lot like about this team. You can see the pieces falling into place, specially if some guys bounce back. The problem is that there's a dozen teams in the league whose pieces have already fallen into place the previous seasons. Whose guys are just good and not 'hoping to bounce back'. If we're talking about Herbert getting into and winning a playoff game, he'll need to win against these teams. I think the more realistic-positive expectations is for this team to be on the level of the Bengals. And the Bengals are a step short of elite, they can't field a top 10 offense and defense at the same time like the Ravens, Bills, KC and SF have been able to consistently do.

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are probably a year away from serious contention. There were a lot of things to fix and you won't do that in one off-season but they are certainly trending in that direction.

  • @nalcon1
    @nalcon1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll be expecting an apology from you mid-season for your low grades. Chris R. is getting cut.

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You had one of the worst defenses in the league and added minimal parts in the off-season.

  • @age3398
    @age3398 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We also picked up bud dupree at edge

  • @westcoastfrank
    @westcoastfrank 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was done very bad bro, just do more diligence that’s all

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indulge me.

  • @yeetskeet7234
    @yeetskeet7234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Herbo and Broshmo, LFG ⚡️💙🤙🏽

  • @marcusreichert8566
    @marcusreichert8566 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That ESPN article “Gus Edward’s has never been the starter” are you kidding me. He had 13TDS and the Ravens use a running back by committee. You have multiple starters at RB lol. That’s why it’s called running back by committee. There will be Dobbins and Edward’s as the starters just like it was in Baltimore. Gus Edward’s had 198 attempts and the next closest running back in touches was Justice Hill with 84 lol, yep Gus Edward’s has never been the starter? Really..

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn't even know it said that in the article lol. I didn't read, I just used it to list their moves in free agency.

    • @marcusreichert8566
      @marcusreichert8566 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Broshmoyeah I was like wym espn? Good video thanks for sharing.

  • @haydengobel
    @haydengobel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tony Jefferson came out of retirement for a try out with chargers, he’ll be at training camp

  • @pacefr
    @pacefr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ah yes offensive lineman terrion arnold

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      pretty nasty at 190

  • @trevorwulf
    @trevorwulf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know he's injured but is Gus Edwards really better than JK Dobbins for the Chargers?

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He's healthier

    • @rickpeterson8825
      @rickpeterson8825 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Broshmo I'm a diehard Chargers fan, and I thought the video was decent , Alt will be fine! And Ladd was a great pick and Colson was a 2nd rounder ! As for Henley , spot on bc Perryman is NOT coverage worthy! Still has looked phenomenal in camp, Harbaugh specifically mentioned this kid, he has picked up the defense! And Rice was a steal , this dude was Caleb Williams deep threat! Again nice vid!

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks brother. No problem with disagreement. We are just football fans rationalizing our football opinions. We'll get some right and we'll get some wrong...me especially 😂 I love the direction the Chargers are heading in, but I also like to temper expectations in year one of a new regime.

    • @trevorwulf
      @trevorwulf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Broshmo I just know what Dobbins can do when healthy and he a dawg, Gus is too tho 🤝🏼, valid to put him in front of Dobbins. Crazy the Chargers basically took the Ravens backfield besides their rookie lol

  • @MrFatboy1987
    @MrFatboy1987 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When will you do the falcons deep dive

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Eventually

    • @rickpeterson8825
      @rickpeterson8825 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Broshmo😂😂😂

  • @989meechy
    @989meechy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Terrion Arnold?

    • @Broshmo
      @Broshmo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Armstead