Rune Or Not?: A Quiz for 1+ Players
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2022
- Delight or alienate your family and friends of all ages by quizzing them on which of these five things are runes and which aren't.
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Know your runes or know you're ruined
Is this a reference to that Duolingo video?
Anyone else think Jackson should seriously consider voice acting on the side?
Fé in Swedish today is Fä Still means Cattle or livestock
Also Danish and Norwegian.
And used as an insult. (Or used to be)
Dit fæhoved!
Would love to hear more about minimalist runes
The stavless ruins? Yes super interesting!
Answers written as I went (paused after they were presented onscreen):
1. Rune! Fe/ᚠ is the first rune in all 4 runic alphabets, in fact (hence the F in Futhark, Futhorc, and Futhork)
2. Not rune. It's a Galdistafir (sp?) of some kind, either Aegishjalmur or Vegvisir, both of which are contemporary with revolvers and Cowboys, not swords and Vikings.
3. Looks like that weird ᚷᚫ thing found on one of the runestones (Roek?). It's certainly a design that uses runes, and might be considered a decorative bind rune, but I don't know if I'd call the whole shape a rune.
4. Just \? In context, could be a slanted Ice/ᛁ rune, but on its own, I wouldn't assume that about it.
5. Rune. Runes written RTL was common in Elder Futhark, even popping up in places such as the Vadstena Bracteate, which has the entire Elder Futhark runic alphabet written "backwards".
Not surprised I'd get caught off guard by staveless runes -- never really bothered to learn them. Proud of myself outside of that, though.
Same as my result!
I also thought that #3 was a bindrune of some sort, and I hadn't heard about this kind of "cryptology" in runic writing before; so that was really interesting to see!
Missed the staveless.
I remember getting the chance to take a university course in Egyptian hieroglyphs (there were only two in the country at the time). The first thing we learned was that it could be written in any direction, or change midway, but you follow the faces of the glyphs to know which way to read. Owls were always helpful for me.
Because I grew up writing left to right, top to bottom, it was a little bit of a struggle to do it another way but it was so important for me because I realized that there doesn’t need to be a set rule. I think for a lot of us, particularly in the u.s where we’re taught early on that our way is the only way, we need to be aware that rarely in human experience is there an actual “right” way of doing anything. Those things we find in all cultures & eras, the commonalities, are probably the only things done “right”. Everything else has more possibilities.
In writing it can be utilitarian or artistic flourishes. We don’t even need words. If you look at a child’s drawings of a story, they can seem disconnected but they usually have something linking image to image to reveal the story they are trying to tell. There isn’t a right or wrong, just levels of effectiveness based on the experience of the reader. I cheated through a Mayan iconography class because I’d see all these swirls & eyes & teeth but be completely unable to recognize what I was looking at. I’d show a picture to my 4 year old niece who was up on her animals but just learning to read, and she had no problem distinguishing jaguar from monkey from snake. It was really helpful & she can’t do it anymore. It came up about a month ago & she couldn’t make out anything clearly. Now in her teens, education has destroyed her ability to see.
My background is in anthropology & archaeology. A back injury sent me back to school for history. I’ve never been good with languages. I think some people have a natural inclination, but others are just good at unlearning rules they’ve been taught. I’m trying to get better at that. Grave goods will tell you a lot, but not as much as reading about a people in their own communication form.
Gosh, this gets me back into languages. I remember memorizing dozens of little words and phrases in various languages when I was younger. I wanted to be a polyglot by the time I was 20.
Lot of past tense there bud, what happened?
@@oduinn7948 Life. I developed some bad habits that ate up my time, and now I'm clawing it back.
But to be fair to myself there was also a lot of things that just... Really impacted my life. Horrible relationships, etc.
Anyway, these days I'm planning on getting my masters in education and I hope that by the time I'm getting my Ph. D. I will have the expendible income to start learning languages again. I want to study mythologies.
@@ncpolley We're in a similar place, actually. It's hard to hit the restart button, but it's never too late. After I kicked my vices, I went back and got my Classics degree, and I've also been learning Old Norse, Runes and Norse mythology with Jackson and several other TH-cam Norse scholars and various online classes over the past few years. If I can do it, anyone can.
I did reasonably well! I only missed the \. I even managed to get the "eeeh, yes, kinda" cryptic/hidden rune correct.
\o/
But that can also be redundant because the word "rune" also means "secret", and could also mean cryptic or hidden.
damn that was hard! As a Dane i actually learned runes in school, but that missing stave, or the flipped R fooled me!
I believe the "flipping" of the runes is called "boustrophedon"; as you mentioned, Egyptian hieroglyphics do this, AND for a while ages ago Greek did too (I believe "boustrophedon" is a Greek word.)
You should do a video on the Dalecarlian runes that were used in Sweden for the Övdalian language until the 20th century, and about the "Runic calendars" that had their heyday from the 16th to 18th centuries, although there is one example from the 13th century and were revived in Estonia around 1978.
A fun game to play with people's tattoos!
Note that "fe" means "cattle" also in Norwegian, often "storfe", "large cattle", i.e. cows and other large animals. (If you find "storfe" in the ingredients list on processed foods, I have often taken that to mean they sometimes include some horsemeat.)
Folk og fæ
@@Lizerino Yes, and "folk og fe" in Norwegian. I think it's just an informal term and shouldn't be interpreted too literally.
For the English speakers who don't converse in Scandinavian, I think an idiomatic translation would be "all and sundry", or "everyone and their dog" or something along those lines.
Vegviser is literally “way shower/guide”
its funny, vegvisir is completely translateable into modern german.
veg (Weg) is a way or path.
visir may sound like Visier (visor) but is more than likely "Weiser" - which depending on context either means "wise one" or "indicator".
The Word "Wegweiser" is still in use in modern german though, so the mystery is completely gone.
If i were to dismantle the german word, it would translate to something like "Pathfinder" or "Shower of Way"
Thanks Doc! This was a fun video !! :)
This was a great video and a fun little game. So enjoyed the format, even got a laugh out of it.
Always a pleasure to learn a little more from you Dr. Crawford.
Cheers from the B.C. Cariboo!
Fun and interesting and informative. Excellent.
Brilliant video
got them all right, except i thought the staveless one was a strangely tilted íss rune. i knew about staveless runes, but its hard to recognise them individually without the horizontal lines theyre usually written between on runestones.
I did not do well. I thought the staveless rune was a backslash. And forgot about the concealed runes.
Interested, awesome!
odd sound transition after the cryptorune... so far got all of them right... this is cool, as usual! :D
5/5...had a good teacher 😉
I didn't know about the concealed runes at all, that's fascinating! Got all the rest correct though and had fun the whole time. Thanks!
Love the design of runes. Would be really cool if a military adapts them.
I liked the light-hearted introduction.
I knew the first two, guessed yes on the second, and was wrong for the last two. So, I learned something more, again, from your video. Thank you.
Interesting, indeed!!!
That was fun 🤩
My type of game 👍🏾
Hah! Nailed 4, recognized the 5th as a reversed rune.
I nailed It!
Having a tattoo on the top of my hands of both aegishjalmur and vegvisir I always get people (especially now since it's popularity has increased) coming up to me saying "you know that's not Viking, right?" Neither is the Christian cross on that same arm nor the sockmonkey on my leg, what's your point...? I also have svefnthorn tattoos on the fingers of my right hand -- I don't think they're arrowheads to help me sleep either. I don't know if God of War has _helped_ or hindered the knowledge lol. (For reference I used to be really into boxing, the idea of the tattoos come from my Icelandic/German/Irish heritage, and the placements was due to me being right handed -- aegishjalmur on my non-dominant blocking hand "protection", vegvisir on my dominant right "guidance, through the storm", and the svefnthorn on the fingers of my dominant right hand "sleep"; basically "you're not getting through my barrier and I'll put you to sleep with a swift precise right".)
Good game!!!
I don't know if this would be something you would like to tackle but the runes for dwarves in warhammer fantasy. Are they gibberish? made up? stolen from Tolkien? I'd be interested in your thoughts.
almost every game i have played with runes in them seem to be gibberish of one or multiple runic alphabets.
I did pretty well, though the staveless rune threw me for a loop. It was all good though. I did well enough to know I'm not a total n00b, but I also got to learn something new. This was fun! :) Also, who's the loser that insulted you on the direction of the runes?? Please tell me this was a rando from the internet and not an academic.
GREAT mead drinking game! 😊
That riff tho 🤘🏻
u should do a video about symbols of ancient norse pre christian influence if that’s even something we have knowledge of. if that’s something you’re interested in making a video about!
I'd like to see some content about the old West. I know you're holding out.
I took feoh as my online moniker in the late 80s and have used it ever since. Back from a time when mega corporations weren’t trying to get us all to use our real name so they could monetize us to death :-)
Hey Jackson, when are you going to continue the “origin of the runes” series?
Had hge troubles reading the runes up in Hudiksvall, they are staveless there, "hälsingerunor"
great
Are there any examples of runic inscriptions where the reading can be changed depending on the direction the reader reads them? Creating a sort of double entendre.
Im glad I got them right...ish. I was confused on 3 but that's an interesting thing to learn, I thought 4 was really basic but I could kinda see it though I was thinking more of íss but it's nice to see staveless runes thrown in here, they don't get covered too much. Probably because, like you said, they're hard to read and not how you'd normally want to read/write runes.
I haven't seen much of that cryptography before with the one from the Rok stone. Honestly I never even noticed those before at the top of the stone. I just thought they were decorative or something.
I was confused on the last one like "Is that not an R? but Backwards?" and I was happy I knew that lol.
I loved the game) especially ding ding)
How about including some rovásírás (writing, but Hungarian, not Germanic), ogham (Goidelic), and certar (Eldarin)?
Got every single one.
Come on. You took it easy on us with this quiz, doc.
All of these are runes before someone knows what they are, because they are secrets at that point.
People probably see the Vegvísir video because of the game Valheim (which everyone produces in a German way and not in a Norse way, sadly)
Will this game show continue?
First I've heard of staveless runes
This was cute!
@0:25 - what I regret of is the lack of CAPS ;) But what were the proper names, ans thralls of theirs?..
Back in the West! But where’s the hat??
8:24 Norse-people were fans of KoRn, confirmed.
#1 could be a a feoh or could be not. looks like part of a bigger picture. Meaning: wealth/cattle #2 not a rune, looks like icelandinc sigil, i forget what they are called. #3 not a rune, too complicated, no idea what it is though. #4, could be Is, but i think not?? #5 raido reversed or one of the Cirth tolkiens runes?
intresting video/quiz! i learned a lot1
Rune: the state of my dating life
Ruin*
7:30 wouldn't mind hearing more about the staveless runes and see some examples. looks like some sort of shorthand.
9:00 one wonders how left to right became standard for alphabets derived from one written right to left. one plausible hypothesis: the overwhelming majority of the populos is right-handed, left to right easier to write for them, simple question of convenience.
looking at what's left of the plethora of writing systems and their respective writing direction(s) in modern times makes one feel a bit woeful. apart from left to right and right to left with horizontal line progression, boustrophedon, there were also top to bottom and bottom to top, starting either on the left or right side. obviously not much has survived. pity.
vegvisir=vägvisare in Swedish
Wegweiser in German (signpost or guidepost)
🙂
What's my prize?