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The "Mutterpass" is just great. Doctors here in Germany recommend to take it with you all the time. A few months ago I passed out at a Oktoberfest around 18 weeks pregnant. The first aid attendant asked for my Mutterpass. This immediately gave him all the important information in an emergency situation. Luckily everything went well and the baby and I are healthy.
Love your videos! I just returned to work after staying home with my baby boy for 12 months while receiving 65% of my salary every month (called Elterngeld in Germany). In total, you can get up to 14 months of paid parental leave in Germany when you and your partner take time off, plus 100% for the 6 six prior to giving birth. And giving birth here in Germany does not cost you anything, no matter what kind of birth it is! All the best to you and your growing family! I hope you're enjoying this very special time!
Economical advice for trip to Scandinavia: 1-stock up as much as you can in Germany before entering Scandinavia 2-stock up as much as you can in Sweden before entering Norway Sweden is expensive but much less so than Noway
Mutterpass is very helpful. You are adviced to carry it with you all the time. It is not always obvious if the woman is pregnant or not. If something happens, the persons helping you can open your purse and find the Mutterpass. They will know you are pregnant and there will be all information about your pregnancy.
So interesting to hear about all the differences in Germany and the US. I live in Austria, which has got quite a similar healthcare system than Germany. Femibion is the most recommended pregnancy vitamin here. They are not cheap though 😔 Luckily I got a few sample packs for free from my doctor because the pharmaceutical sales reps provided him with a lot of free samples and he was happy to give them to his pregnant patients 😃👍🏻 Here in Austria we also have the Mutterpass and we have 3 ultrasound appointments (for every trimester) and the glucose test. Mine was very pleasant (orange flavour). Up to the birth I had the same gynecologist, but for the birth you don’t know you will be there in the delivery room. When your labour starts you go to the hospital and who ever is there is there. Most of the time you don’t see a doctor at all, because midwives take care of you during birth. The only time you see a doctor is after giving birth (if they have to stitch you up) or if there are birth complications or if you want an epidural. Midwives are the ones that deliver the babies here in Austria not the doctors. Hope that you have a safe delivery and a good birthing experience in the birthing center you chose.
Thanks so much for your comment Jessica! It’s very interesting to read! I will look into Feminion out of curiosity! The prenatals I take are also very expensive. It’s hard to pay for it, but gives me peace of mind as a Dietitian & Momma! 💗
There are two different glucose-tests available in germany (third intervention/option is self-measuring the bloodsugar, forth: not doing it) - she did the "big" test where you can't eat before and blood is taken 2-3 times at a doctors office. As a midwife I offered the pre-test (can be done at every time of the day and my brand had a taste) which, if abnormal, leads to another "big" one and a diagnosis. This was just an overview, for accurate medical information and advise in the individual situation please ask your own provider ;)
About prenatal supplements: I'm now in my 23rd week of pregnancy and I've taken Folio 2 like 2 times during week 13. That's it. I didn't take them pre-pregnancy and don't do now either and still, according to the monthly visits at the gynecologist, my baby is developing perfectly well and in time, even without supplements. I mean, back in the day, our mothers didn't take supplements either and still we all grew up...
I did the Test in Hamburg Germany. I got a premixed Glucose drink which i bought in the pharmacy and they delivered it to my doctor it was sweeeeet and grape flavor. Not just water with sugar. And the took my blood 3 times , before, after 1 hour and after 2 hours
One reason for the difference in the ingrediences of prenatal supplements is that the average nutrition in the US is significantly more worse than in Germany so more people have deficits in getting some substances in their food.
I've had a lot of gynecological exams lately, both at my OBGYN's office and at the hospital, and at neither place they had this little corner for changing. I just sat down somewhere and took my clothes off. First, it was a bit strange (especially when one of the doctors was a man), but I mean, they see half-naked women all the time. So I decided to look at it all from a medical point of view and got used to it. After a while, it was no big deal anymore. Clothes off, sit down, ultrasound in ... no biggie.
❤ I really enjoyed hearing about your perspective, especially as I’m pregnant myself, also in Germany. Actually it is rather unusual to take the 2h test without having done the much shorter pre-test where you do get a drink to take at home. As for the flavour: In my last pregnancy in 2021 I got a nice grape juice. This time, the nurse explained that the insurance companies no longer pay for the juice, that’s why they now give you powdered sugar in water. 😬
Congrats on the pregnancy!! 💗 I would have loved to have a take home test or a flavored drink! Interesting that they aren’t covered now. Thanks for sharing!
There was a program on WDR recently where they asked a nutritionist about the current High Protein hype on food packaging. He said it's full of fat and sugar but didn't mention that all food has protein (except celery?). The one takeaway I got from my nutrition class at UW was a healthy diet contains all the nutrients you need (in normal life, not pregnant life).
My wife was recommended Femibion as a supplement for all her pregnancies. All the mothers we know took Femibion as well. Never heard of Folio. But I think that here in Germany supplements are regulated anyways and the differences are probably negligible. Thanks for the update on your pregnancy. All the best.
@@OurStorytoTell got 3 kids. Pregnant 4 times. Never taken those glukose tests. Took blood tests and urin tests reguarly. Those tests shows blood sugar levels as well . No need to drink that terrible drinks. Never heard about here in Norway. Midwife and doctor checks you every month and the last 8 weeks every week. But my last child was born in 1993 so long time ago. Maybe some changes now. But all is free for pregnant women. Ultra sounds cost a liitle bit after the optinal first one. Maternaty leave is 10-12 months paid leave. But can be shared between mom and dad. Dads have some weeks free from work paid. Usually take those in the beginning those first weeks. Miss those years when the kids were young before teenagers😅 We traveled alot too. Mostly in Denmark with the kids cause my mother in law was danish ❤greetings from Norway 🙋♀️🌅
Hallo ihr „4“😉 Bezüglich eurer Reise kann ich euch nur sagen, macht das auf alle Fälle!!!!!!!!!! Wir haben mit unserem Sohn, damals war er allerdings schon 10 Monate, eigentlich genau die gleiche Reise gemacht! Wir sind in 6 Wochen 6000 km aus Franken, wir wohnen glaub ich garnicht so weit voneinander entfernt, über Dänemark, Schweden und in Norwegen bis hoch nach Trondheim gefahren und dann Norwegen an der Westseite runter und mit der Fähre wieder nach Dänemark!!! Es war eine unglaubliche, wunderschöne, atemberaubende Reise!!!!!!!!!! Ich würde es jederzeit wieder machen, allerdings gab es auch einige Hürden zu meistern!!!!! Norwegen ist unglaublich teuer, wir hatten kistenweise Babynahrung dabei, Milchpulver, Essen, Getränke, Kleidung, Kinderwagen, Kinderanhänger und und und und obendrauf noch unser Tandem…… wir hatten nur noch wenig Platz zum „Leben“ in diesem Camper!!!!!! Wir haben neben Wasserfällen, Fjorden, und Gletschern geschlafen, das war alle Strapazen wert!!!! Vielleicht ist es mit einem so kleinen Baby aber noch ein bisschen schwieriger!!🤷♀️ Falls ihr Fragen habt, könnt ihr euch gerne mal melden!!! Vielleicht können wir euch ja weiterhelfen!!🙋🏼♀️ Liebe Grüße Barbara
The vitamins that you can get at the pharmacy are just the standard ones. During my pregnancy, I talked to my gynaecologist and she prescribed magnesium, iron and omega in addition. Magnesium from the gynaecologist is usually also more highly dosed than what you get in the pharmacy. I think in Germany it is common to be in close contact with your doctor and talk about your needs or habits. I was also asked if I was a vegetarian and therefore needed more iron, etc. I was told that I needed more iron. I think it depends a bit on which doctor you have. :-)
It is better to consult with the doctor whether vitamins may be needed. The doctor examines regularly and thus determines whether nutrients are missing somewhere. Too much on one's own responsibility because one has read it somewhere is not good either. Don't stress and trust the doctor, then everything will be fine. But it was also important to me to go to a clinic to give birth!
Same for me.. I took the femibion. I was prescribed magnesium and iron as I was further along in my pregnancy, based on what I needed. As to for the gestationdiabetes test I was given a liquid at the gynecologist‘s office and it was current flavoured.
In the netherlands after giving birth you also get kraamzorg. That is a nurse who comes to your home for 5 to 7 days who takes care of mother en child and also doing some light home work like cooking and cleaning. Makes sure that the mother takes her naps and gives advice about everything that you have to know
Wow, that is amazing 👏🏼. There are options like that in the US, but insurance would likely not cover it, so it would be all extra money out of pocket to pay. Would love to see more of that normalized in the US. Thanks for sharing!
@@OurStorytoTell The reason for this intensive care at home in the Netherlands is probably that the rate for home births there is traditionally around 30%. This figure is extremely high by European standards. So in order to minimize the associated risks outside of a clinical environment, more professional help is needed at home.
I agree that many pregnant women might need certain additional nutrients. But not all pregnant women are identical in their needs. Supplements with high dosages of all minerals and vitamins can lead to overdosing on some of the ingredients if not ALL of them are needed. Basically only vitamin C is non-toxic in any dosage, as it is easy to get rid of and it doesn't block other receptors. Any excess vitamin C is gotten rid of via urine. All other nutrients, especially folic acid, can have serious detrimental side effects in too high dosages. That's why most non-prescription supplements available in pharmacies in Germany are limited to only a handful of directly related nutrients, and in relatively low dosages. At least those you can get in the pharmacy. Unfortunately there are quite a few supplements you can get in your local grocery store/supermarket that throw a bunch of supplements at you without any reasonable explanation on dosages and regularity of application, nor duration of application. Which is something I find very concerning. But at least a pharmacist usually knows very well which supplements to advise on, contrary to those supermarket supplements. Therefore using a generalist approach to supplements can be more detrimental than beneficial. With sufficient knowledge, advice, and care handpicked supplements however will certainly be beneficial, but only dependant on the specific situation of each pregnant woman.
It's especially important to consult qualified professionals for any supplements. Personally, we don't use any supplements, with the exception to occasional Vitamin D for the darker winter months, because we know we get enough of the nutrients through our diets. That's right. The supplement industry is unfortunately another area that has been overtaken by companies who are looking to make a lot of money. Pair that with supplements not being regulated, and you never really know what they have in their product.
I took Folio pre-pregnancy and then switched to Femibion for the pregnancy and time of breastfeeding that has many of those additional supplements you mentioned. Both were recommended by my doctor.
For prenatal vitamins I used femibion on all of my 3 pregnancys. It has more ingredients as folio, especially the once after the 12 week mark. Usually for the clucose test, you'll get a prescription and buy a flavored drink in a pharmacy. The way you had to do it, is outdated... It used to be done like that, seems that some doctors refuse to go with the time 😬 Wish you all the best for your remaining weeks of pregnancy 🍀✊️
All very interesting. It seems like German efficiency is really coming to the fore. I really wish you a successful final few weeks of pregnancy and take care not to slip on ice or snow if you still have some. I wonder how quickly Willa will realise that she has a sister who needs a lot of attention in the first days and weeks. I can't remember what I felt when my mum brought my newborn sister back from the hospital. I was four years older and Jane cried a lot!
Thank you 💛. We are taking care whenever we do need to go outside. Luckily, today the final bit of ice and snow melted 🙌. We are soaking up the final weeks with just the three of us! Willa seems to understand that baby is coming really soon, so we will see how the transition will be. We’re sure there will be an adjustment for the attention shift to baby girl and the crying 😅
as a single male without kids, for around 90% of the video i was like "whats she telling here?" :D but first of all, i guess we're all happy to know that everything is fine with the baby. so lets hope its gonna stay that way :) i know you didnt really judge or rate both the american and the german pregnancy health coverage systems - as i may put it - but i wonder how much you'd have to pay in the states if you would add all those extra examinations, appointments and time off if you want that same sort of coverage that you get here in europe.
It is a lot to keep up with if you haven't heard much about prenatal care before (Tanner has learned a lot along the way 😂 ). Thank you! Things are well and we're hoping it stays that way too. A great question about the German and American health care systems. I'm pretty sure we'll be doing a recap of our thoughts comparing this birth to Willa's in the US, so keep an eye out for that video in the future!
no idea how many Ultrasounds my ex-wife had with my daughter, but its been a few more than just 1 or 2.... and we have been gesetzlich Krankenversichert!
I'm going to get criticism for this remark but I think you are crazy to plan a 5 week journey in a camper van or, worse still, a tent with a newborn. The baby will get nothing from this trip and will also have no routine or peace and quiet which is, in my opinion , essential at this young age. I found the first few months being at home getting used to my baby and she getting used to our family and routines wonderful and for me it was essential to be able to have a nap when she slept. I couldn't imagine travelling every day at such a time. I also think it would be easier for Willa to adjust to being a big sister in her own home with her own routine and the security of her familiar Kita which gives her time away from the baby who needs your attention in the first few weeks. I know it's none of my business but as an experienced mum who also works in a Kita I felt someone had to say this. You will be surprised at the huge difference a second child brings to a family and not all children are the same, your experience might be completely different to that with Willa as a newborn and what if there are problems when you are far away in Norway for example. Sorry to say all this. I love your videos and I think you have done a great job with Willa she's an adorable child and I wish you all the luck with the rest of the pregnancy and birth and can't wait for you to show us your new daughter.
No we are grateful you feel comfortable to share. 😊 We should have mentioned that we aren’t planning on the road-trip until baby will be 5-6 months old! We know that is still young for some people, but for the first couple months we plan to take things slow as we adjust to a family of four. 💗
Well that’s reassuring and knowing what good parents you are I’m sure everything will work out fine for you all. Enjoy your last few weeks as a family of three ❤️
This brought back some memories! I can only talk about my own experiences (4 full term pregnancies) with the last 18 years ago. Due to having diabetes in the family, I was screened for it, by my gynecologist, at every appointment (no need for fasting 🤷♀️). With every pregnancy, I had prescriptions for folic acid. Later in the pregnancies Magnesium was recommended. No other supplements, but advice for "take it easy" and "sun" lol.
I had to do a Glucose test without being pregnant and I had to drink a liquid from the pharmacy which tasted like a multivitamin juice. Wasn't bad at all. When I am at a gynacologist I always wear a long T Shirt. But I don't find it more akward then the examination itself. The doctor will see everything anyways.😁
Hi, your traveling plans to Norway are great. It's the most beautiful country in Europe. And the best way is to travel with a camper, so you can see a lot of the nature. But please notice, you have to go to the west coast around Bergen and Hardangerfjord and maybe further north around Jostedalsbreen Nationalpark and Sognefjord, there are so great views. There are enough beautiful places to rest at camping places or just in the wildness, it's allowed. All the best for your pregnancy, hope it is not the last 😁
May I recommend Finland as a good destination once the littlest is older? Renting a summer house next to a lake (with an outdoor toilet) was so much fun when we were kids.
What a cool video. I don't know so much about these things, so it was very interesting to listen to you talking with so many informations about it. I you are so adorable when talking about it with so much passion and getting so excited. That is really cool and I love it. I'm so happy for you, new baby will have amazing parents and wonderful big sister. Wish you a nice week.
That brought back bad memories 😅 You're right! The drink is like 🤢 Did you also notice the difference in baby essentials between the USA and Germany? 😅 Some of my friends here in the US had a baby last year and I've noticed so many differences. For example the bassenett, the changing table... This could also be an interesting topic 😊 It's on my list for one of my next videos 😉and I'd love to hear what you have noticed as you are living on the other side 😉☺️
Prenatal vitamins in most of Europe including Germany are analysed, tested and submitted to laws. It is probably less components than what you have in USA because a regular Euro diet has more nutriments than a regular USA diet? Also the USA is to this day the only remaining country in the "western world" that does not have a policy federal wise on maternity leave benefits.Heck even Irak has one.
whether you are pregnant or not, supplemental nutritients just make expensive urin if you don´t have an lack of them. so first do bloodwork etc, and then decide about supplements.
Lovely to see a Risa here your pregnancy experience so far in Germany Why i was pregnant with my 2 sons back in the 80’s taken Folic. Was never advised in-fact no extra supplements I only had 1 ultrasound whole pregnancy that was at the beginning as they thought i was expecting twins ( my uterus was growing very fast ) luckly for me was not twins 😜 I had both home births ( first was quite an experience 48 hours in labour & over due ) 2nd was much easier very quick 37 wks . Risa not long now where the time gone , the months are flying past 😜 . Have a Good day 🥰 Just amazed me how much has changed in the years for pregnancy care & Infant 😊 🤔 Will be oma for the first time come the summer so its been very interesting hearing from my Daughter in law about her pregnancy journey 💕.
My glucose test in Germany (three times) was a flavored drink I picked up from the pharmacy. I could pick orange or black current. I brought it with me to the OB, they poured it in the glass and I drank it there. They took three finger prick blood samples. Before I drank, after one and 2 hours. As for my birth plan, we first discussed it around 32 weeks with my second pregnancy . Since it was a birth after a c-section I was asked, “do you have physiological issues and want another section? There are no indications for another c-section so unless your last birth traumatized you, you will be doing a VBAC.” He then gave me a slip of paper with his cell phone number and said call me 24 hours a day if you feel you need support/back-up during labor. The head OB at the hospital is my brother. I have pull there. 😂 I have regular German public insurance and had at least a quick US at almost every OB visit performed by my OB. As for walking out naked from the changing room, I was always asked to bring a towel to sit on which used around me as I walked the 10 steps to the exam table. I took Folio starting a year before I became pregnant. No one recommended it to me. I researched on my own. My last pregnancy was 16 years ago.
Oh, how I wish I could have had a flavored glucose test 😂. Thanks for sharing your experience! We love hearing how others have experienced health care 💛
@@chrisg.4934 They are still available. I just checked out of curiosity. I did remember there was a recall at one point. Hasn’t almost everything had a recall at some point -chocolate for metal pieces, baby formula for impurities, medications for Inaccurate dosing rice, flour….. But obviously a self mixed sugar solution works as well.
Thanks a lot for your update Risa. Seems that everything is fine with you and your baby which sounds great. I am sure you are smart enough that you communicate any additional pills with your doc. Your decisions to take a motorhome and to take time for 5 weeks are good. Your map doesnt show exactly where you want to go but its closed to a very interesting region. Well, I will provide some infos the next days and will raise also an inquiry for you in my fishing community as well.
Thanks, Howie RFS! Things are well and we are getting more excited each day that passes to have her here 😊. Also, that’s kind of you to be willing to share some information/tips with us 💛. Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Thanks for taking us with you!🖤 Please mark your ads with „Werbung“ in a corner. Otherwise you can get a legal penalty for going against the European law regards commercial rules. And that would be so sad. Especially if you pin it in the comments. All the best for the upcoming interesting times😊
Thanks for joining along! As for the ads, we included the TH-cam button that says the video contains promotional content (at the beginning). In our opinion, that should be adequate, no?
@@OurStorytoTell Yes, saw that at the beginning 👍 But as far as I’m aware, through watching other content, and having a good friend working in the influencer world, it isn’t enough in Germany/Europe. Please talk to someone with a deeper understanding of that topic😌
It is a medical test, and as a doctor in germany (different specialty though) i learned that only medically necessary tests are offered. So if you had normal blood sugar levels, maybe you didnt need a glocose test.
Folio was also recommended to me from everyone like gynocologists, pharmacists and midwifes, but I new of "fermibion" through advertisement and other moms recommended that to me as well, so I'm using this now (since week 13)
Folio is just basic. Only those, that many women here are lacking for the very nature of Germany. And only those that might be a hindrance to getting pregnant, or for the first weeks of pregnancy. If you don't get these, the probability of a severe handicap is higher. E.g. that a cell does not split up in the correct way, which causes things like spina bifida or a short bowel ending nowhere or prune belly, or... I know, because me and a neighbour we had this problem for another reason, and hers has spina bifida and mine prune belly. When the baby gets bigger and needs really a lot, you might change to Femibion. This has all vitamines, and additional elements like iron. This will lower your feeling of being weak or unwell. With my second and third baby I started far earlier with Femibion, and it stopped nausea and cravings.
I will have to look k to Femibion! I chose to do my American supplements (that were shown in the video) because I knew I wanted there to be more vitamins & minerals included than Folio too.
@@OurStorytoTell it is just more expensive than folio. Up to 30 Euros per package, which was for a month, if I remember correctly. But you can get it at every Pharmacy, Drogerie, and even in some supermarkets.
Hi there nice to see that you and the baby are in good health, yes there are a few difference to the US, you realy are trying to do the best for your baby and your self.❤❤❤
All dietary supplements are regulated by the federal ordinance on dietary supplements (Verordnung über Nahrungsergänzungsmittel). There is a list of approved ingredients that are allowed to be in supplements. If a manufacturer or importer wants to have ingredients in a supplement that are not on the list a special permit from the federal office for consumer protection and food safety (Bundesamt für Verbraucherschutz und Lebensmittelsicherheit) needs to be obtained before a market launch of the supplement. State authorities of each federal state are in charge to check on a regular basis that all supplements sold in their federal state are in compliance with the federal ordinance or have a permit if necessary.
You can not call yourself a registered dietitian in Germany, since there is no such thing. You can call yourself "Ernährungsberater*in", which is not protected so you can not be registered. Or you are a "Diätassistent*in", which is a state approved job. Where you whould have had 3 years vocational training and a "Staatsexamen". Since you have not been that long in Germany i doubt you are the latter. Which would put you in serious trouble if you keep calling yourself "registerd dietitian", while practicing in Germany. Be Aware
She is what she is. She is practising her job remotely for US citizens, I guess. You cannot give yourself a job title of a different country, just because you currently live in that country.
Uh, a road trip with a new born baby? Maybe that will become very stressful. The time after a birth in my opinion is meant to be to get adjusted to the new situation. I personally would overthink this plan. Nevertheless I wish you and your family all the best!
Love you guys and your channel.. but this made me angry! LADIES PLEASE DO THE GESTATIONAL DIABETES TEST! I have never had "sugar in water" in Germany... you get a glucose fluid drink and if you have problems with it, you can buy a flavoured sugar drink from the chemist to take with you to drink for the test (like in the USA). Also if you are registered with a gynaecologist and midwife, you are sent to a diabetes specialist for the test. What is described here is not typical and maybe because her health insurance is not a german one and she is doing everything as an "out patient" at a clinic. Also it is normal not to eat or drink before urine, blood, sugar tests and OPs because the doctors need your "resting" values BEFORE they give you tests/drugs etc. This is STANDARD everywhere..if they didn't do this.. they couldn't SEE your bodies response to the test because they wouldn't have a BASE LEVEL to go by! It is totally IRRESPONSIBLE not to do the diabetes test. I had gestational diabetes with both kids.. i was strict with my diet and kept sugar under control during my pregnancy so my kids had no physical damage. I luckily didn't need insulin. I have family in the UK ..she had pregnancy diabetes, didn't test, and her child has had disabilities since birth because his organs grew to big!..the damage to the foetus/your baby if you have pregnancy diabetes can be extensive and permanent causing many health issues and even after birth surgery for years... WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT THIS FOR THEIR CHILD? When you can avoid it with a 2hr test!.which is a few hours of discomfort for the safty of your baby! Ps they do the test at the doctors to make sure it is done 100% correctly because you have to stay still so that you do not burn the glucose through physical exercise to see how your body responds and processes the blood sugar! (Basic science and biology!) The neck fold down syndrome test is normal all over Europe and the UK. You get a mother passport from the 12 week which goes through to post birth care.
well, the pharmacy will give you the ones that they would recommend without a blood test. but the pharmasist as well as you ob-gyn should do a big blood test on your first appointment and then recommend extra on top. i had a very high iron deficiency and therefor was blood checked monthly for various nutrition. i even ask him to transfer me for that to my normal doc as they have a special nurse and i‘m absolutely scared of needles and she is a magician for drawing blood for me. so from my experience most woman get extra subliments but only with extra blood test and not just from the shelves on a wild guess. for me i had 3 different iron sources , magnesium, selenium, vitamin e and k i believe.
We agree that a blood test should be given at first! I know they took my blood, but I wasn’t told to take any specific additional supplements. My doctor actually hardly asked about supplements which was a little bit alarming to me. I agree with you about the importance! Happy you were able to get more additional supplements that were needed. 😊
@@OurStorytoTell i would probably guess, since in germany the doc appointments are not limited and open to anyone (as anyone is insured by default) pharmacy offer the bare minimum and know extra will be „found“ upon check ups. however i‘m stunned that your doc did not go in detail with you on that. both my midwife and doc made sure i was checked and even advised on extra dentist appointments and such. i was referred back to my general doc for advice on vaccinations and they did extra blood work and blood pressure checks. they told me to ask my female ancestors (mom, aunts, grandma etc for their pregnancy experiences: like blood pressure issues, more amniotic fluids, birth stories etc besides the normal genetic issues) and added that into my mutterpass (was an extra foldout that they glues in in the back).
Vitaminähnliche Substanz Für den Menschen stellt die Aufnahme von Cholin keine Notwendigkeit dar, solange seine Nahrung die Aminosäure Methionin und Folsäure enthält. Früher galt Cholin als Vitamin und wurde - wie auch das Adenin - als Vitamin B4 bezeichnet, obwohl bekannt war, dass die Verbindung vom menschlichen Organismus synthetisiert werden kann. Cholin wurde daher vielfach als vitaminähnliche Substanz (Vitaminoid) klassifiziert. Allerdings scheint eine gewisse Aufnahme von Cholin durch die Nahrung nötig zu sein. So konnte in einem Experiment gezeigt werden, dass eine Kunstnahrung mit extrem geringem Cholin-Gehalt zu Muskelschäden und Fettleber führt. Don't panic - Choline as a supplement is not as necessary as you think it is.
Hi, I´m pretty conservative with medicine, extra vitamins and so on. I mean the human body gave birth for thousands of years now, without doctor without extra vitamins. The body usually does all correctly. Additionally nowadays we have the most diverse food all over the whole world all over the whole year. A nowadays human usually gets all it needs. (Just imagine the food situation 100 years ago) Usually. Yes. So as long as the tests are all good there is no need to worry at all. Usually. So good thing is that nowadays we have all the test and and we have the medicine the ultrasonic and so on. One should be way more relaxed than 100 years ago. But sadly - internet and hearsay and advertisements cause more fear than necessary. A birth is the most natural thing for .. not only humans. I can only recommend to do all the tests - and as long as they are good: Listen to your body, do the things you like to do, eat the things you like to do and relax. Stress and fear is not good for you and for your baby.
Hallo Risa und Tanner, ich wünsche euch beiden, und der großen Schwester Willa, alles Gute und eine angenehme Schwangerschaft Liebe Grüße aus Düsseldorf
Mine never told me they were testing to see if I needed any extra supplements other than my prenatals, but maybe they still did test for it? Not sure! I did/am taking a prenatal with a lot of vitamins & minerals though as you saw in the video.
When foreigners find out even the men can leave for months after having a child in germany and most other EU countries, because of the law and not "generous" employers(they wouldnt do it if the state didnt force them) - Surprised Pikachu Face.
Sorry, this diabetes should never be opted out an I'm glad, we have it here in Germany. It protects both, Mother an Child from getting sick. They take two tests, because the increase or decrease shows them, if and how your body works.🤗
I read somewhere that it cost about 10.000 dollar to have a baby in the US...even then and even babies are big business for coorporate America...there are so much improvments America needs to do towards its citizens for the richest country in the world to live up to the claim to also be the best country in the world.
Richest country in the world? You mean Luxembourg, Singapore, Qatar, Switzerland..? Which one? Also, "best country" for sure 😂😂 It's so ridiculous to me how indoctrinated most americans are about their country
We can confirm that having a baby in the US is close to that number! Fortunately for us, insurance covered practically everything for prenatal care, delivery and any follow up visits, but we know for a lot of people, that's not always the case. It's also worth noting that Willa's birth was likely cheaper than others because there was no anesthesia, induction, C-section, intensive care for baby or momma, etc. We can imagine how much the total cost increases when you start factoring those additional services. Improvements definitely are needed!
I never did any tests when I was pregnant - it is you that decides ... in any country ... I had a natural birth, no medicines, nothing ... my daughter was and is perfectly healthy.
Most of the doctors here have absolutely no idea about supplements. I agree that guidelines are important but it's kind of the other extreme in Germany where nobody checks any vitamins and minerals apart from very few like Natrium/Kalium. The whole topic is definitely not considered enough in our medical standards and a lot of people would probably benefit from more knowledge.
The more I am learning, the more I agree with your comment! It’s the same in the states too. American doctors do NOT get proper nutrition education; especially an OBGYN in my opinion.
@@OurStorytoTell yes definitely! It is so sad because there are so many illnesses where proper nutrition could help and it would also prevent so much to make sure that people are in a good state from early childhood on. I don't really get it 🤷🏼♀️
The book is accessible to every mom at any given time, no access to internet or a computer needed, works during a power outage too. No unauthorized access, no danger of it being hacked. No privacy issues. Having it in your possession comes with the responsibility to take care of it and not forget to take it - like your house keys, for example. Do you guys hear yourself talking, sometimes? The convenience of not being able to forget it? Seriously? Gosh ... this generation is SO messed up ...
So messed up, huh? Tell us how you really feel. The point is that it can be easy to forget things, especially when most everything in today's world is online/electronic...
@@OurStorytoTell Ignore that account... they are so damn unpleasant and not worth your time. A friend had her Mutterpass stolen at work. She kept it in her pigeon hole with internal (non confidential) mail and someone nicked it. Everyone was so upset when we found out... because who does that? Having a paper version is perfectly fine and safe but having data stored digitally in a place that complies with data protection would be a boon!
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The "Mutterpass" is just great. Doctors here in Germany recommend to take it with you all the time. A few months ago I passed out at a Oktoberfest around 18 weeks pregnant. The first aid attendant asked for my Mutterpass. This immediately gave him all the important information in an emergency situation. Luckily everything went well and the baby and I are healthy.
Love your videos! I just returned to work after staying home with my baby boy for 12 months while receiving 65% of my salary every month (called Elterngeld in Germany). In total, you can get up to 14 months of paid parental leave in Germany when you and your partner take time off, plus 100% for the 6 six prior to giving birth. And giving birth here in Germany does not cost you anything, no matter what kind of birth it is! All the best to you and your growing family! I hope you're enjoying this very special time!
Incredible!! Thanks for sharing! Congrats on the baby (now one years old)! 😊
Economical advice for trip to Scandinavia:
1-stock up as much as you can in Germany before entering Scandinavia
2-stock up as much as you can in Sweden before entering Norway
Sweden is expensive but much less so than Noway
Love those tips!! We know it’s gonna be $$ so we will definitely do that! 😊
Mutterpass is very helpful. You are adviced to carry it with you all the time. It is not always obvious if the woman is pregnant or not. If something happens, the persons helping you can open your purse and find the Mutterpass. They will know you are pregnant and there will be all information about your pregnancy.
So interesting to hear about all the differences in Germany and the US.
I live in Austria, which has got quite a similar healthcare system than Germany. Femibion is the most recommended pregnancy vitamin here. They are not cheap though 😔 Luckily I got a few sample packs for free from my doctor because the pharmaceutical sales reps provided him with a lot of free samples and he was happy to give them to his pregnant patients 😃👍🏻
Here in Austria we also have the Mutterpass and we have 3 ultrasound appointments (for every trimester) and the glucose test. Mine was very pleasant (orange flavour).
Up to the birth I had the same gynecologist, but for the birth you don’t know you will be there in the delivery room.
When your labour starts you go to the hospital and who ever is there is there. Most of the time you don’t see a doctor at all, because midwives take care of you during birth. The only time you see a doctor is after giving birth (if they have to stitch you up) or if there are birth complications or if you want an epidural. Midwives are the ones that deliver the babies here in Austria not the doctors.
Hope that you have a safe delivery and a good birthing experience in the birthing center you chose.
Thanks so much for your comment Jessica! It’s very interesting to read! I will look into Feminion out of curiosity! The prenatals I take are also very expensive. It’s hard to pay for it, but gives me peace of mind as a Dietitian & Momma! 💗
@@OurStorytoTell Also austrian. My gynaecologist recommended either Femibion or Pregnavit (which is way cheaper).
There are two different glucose-tests available in germany (third intervention/option is self-measuring the bloodsugar, forth: not doing it) - she did the "big" test where you can't eat before and blood is taken 2-3 times at a doctors office. As a midwife I offered the pre-test (can be done at every time of the day and my brand had a taste) which, if abnormal, leads to another "big" one and a diagnosis. This was just an overview, for accurate medical information and advise in the individual situation please ask your own provider ;)
Thanks for sharing!
About prenatal supplements: I'm now in my 23rd week of pregnancy and I've taken Folio 2 like 2 times during week 13. That's it. I didn't take them pre-pregnancy and don't do now either and still, according to the monthly visits at the gynecologist, my baby is developing perfectly well and in time, even without supplements.
I mean, back in the day, our mothers didn't take supplements either and still we all grew up...
When we traveled through Poland with a camper van, we rented it via Rent&Travel. It was a smooth experience.
Oh thanks for sharing! We will look into them :)
I did the Test in Hamburg Germany. I got a premixed Glucose drink which i bought in the pharmacy and they delivered it to my doctor it was sweeeeet and grape flavor. Not just water with sugar. And the took my blood 3 times , before, after 1 hour and after 2 hours
Yes, thee times, it would not show any overall useful results otherwise.
So interesting! Honestly wish I would have received the flavored drink over the plain water 😂
My wife did that test at her Frauenarzt and it was like a juice. I would recommend that test, because she had diabetes during pregnancy
A juice would be much more tasty!
One reason for the difference in the ingrediences of prenatal supplements is that the average nutrition in the US is significantly more worse than in Germany so more people have deficits in getting some substances in their food.
That could be it! Food is best and preferred over supplements in my opinion!
I've had a lot of gynecological exams lately, both at my OBGYN's office and at the hospital, and at neither place they had this little corner for changing. I just sat down somewhere and took my clothes off. First, it was a bit strange (especially when one of the doctors was a man), but I mean, they see half-naked women all the time. So I decided to look at it all from a medical point of view and got used to it. After a while, it was no big deal anymore. Clothes off, sit down, ultrasound in ... no biggie.
Interesting to hear! I agree with you though, no biggie to them & you can get used to it!
❤ I really enjoyed hearing about your perspective, especially as I’m pregnant myself, also in Germany. Actually it is rather unusual to take the 2h test without having done the much shorter pre-test where you do get a drink to take at home. As for the flavour: In my last pregnancy in 2021 I got a nice grape juice. This time, the nurse explained that the insurance companies no longer pay for the juice, that’s why they now give you powdered sugar in water. 😬
Congrats on the pregnancy!! 💗 I would have loved to have a take home test or a flavored drink! Interesting that they aren’t covered now. Thanks for sharing!
There was a program on WDR recently where they asked a nutritionist about the current High Protein hype on food packaging. He said it's full of fat and sugar but didn't mention that all food has protein (except celery?). The one takeaway I got from my nutrition class at UW was a healthy diet contains all the nutrients you need (in normal life, not pregnant life).
Interesting comment!! I would agree that diversity in the diet is super important! We want to get all the nutrients and variety is key!
My wife was recommended Femibion as a supplement for all her pregnancies. All the mothers we know took Femibion as well. Never heard of Folio. But I think that here in Germany supplements are regulated anyways and the differences are probably negligible. Thanks for the update on your pregnancy. All the best.
Thanks for watching! 💗 Interesting that I’ve never heard of Femibion and you’ve never heard of Folio!
@@OurStorytoTell got 3 kids. Pregnant 4 times. Never taken those glukose tests. Took blood tests and urin tests reguarly. Those tests shows blood sugar levels as well . No need to drink that terrible drinks. Never heard about here in Norway. Midwife and doctor checks you every month and the last 8 weeks every week. But my last child was born in 1993 so long time ago. Maybe some changes now. But all is free for pregnant women. Ultra sounds cost a liitle bit after the optinal first one. Maternaty leave is 10-12 months paid leave. But can be shared between mom and dad. Dads have some weeks free from work paid. Usually take those in the beginning those first weeks. Miss those years when the kids were young before teenagers😅 We traveled alot too. Mostly in Denmark with the kids cause my mother in law was danish ❤greetings from Norway 🙋♀️🌅
Hallo ihr „4“😉
Bezüglich eurer Reise kann ich euch nur sagen, macht das auf alle Fälle!!!!!!!!!!
Wir haben mit unserem Sohn, damals war er allerdings schon 10 Monate, eigentlich genau die gleiche Reise gemacht! Wir sind in 6 Wochen 6000 km aus Franken, wir wohnen glaub ich garnicht so weit voneinander entfernt, über Dänemark, Schweden und in Norwegen bis hoch nach Trondheim gefahren und dann Norwegen an der Westseite runter und mit der Fähre wieder nach Dänemark!!! Es war eine unglaubliche, wunderschöne, atemberaubende Reise!!!!!!!!!! Ich würde es jederzeit wieder machen, allerdings gab es auch einige Hürden zu meistern!!!!! Norwegen ist unglaublich teuer, wir hatten kistenweise Babynahrung dabei, Milchpulver, Essen, Getränke, Kleidung, Kinderwagen, Kinderanhänger und und und und obendrauf noch unser Tandem…… wir hatten nur noch wenig Platz zum „Leben“ in diesem Camper!!!!!! Wir haben neben Wasserfällen, Fjorden, und Gletschern geschlafen, das war alle Strapazen wert!!!! Vielleicht ist es mit einem so kleinen Baby aber noch ein bisschen schwieriger!!🤷♀️
Falls ihr Fragen habt, könnt ihr euch gerne mal melden!!! Vielleicht können wir euch ja weiterhelfen!!🙋🏼♀️
Liebe Grüße Barbara
The vitamins that you can get at the pharmacy are just the standard ones. During my pregnancy, I talked to my gynaecologist and she prescribed magnesium, iron and omega in addition. Magnesium from the gynaecologist is usually also more highly dosed than what you get in the pharmacy. I think in Germany it is common to be in close contact with your doctor and talk about your needs or habits. I was also asked if I was a vegetarian and therefore needed more iron, etc. I was told that I needed more iron. I think it depends a bit on which doctor you have. :-)
Ah that makes more sense! Thanks for sharing!
It is better to consult with the doctor whether vitamins may be needed. The doctor examines regularly and thus determines whether nutrients are missing somewhere. Too much on one's own responsibility because one has read it somewhere is not good either. Don't stress and trust the doctor, then everything will be fine. But it was also important to me to go to a clinic to give birth!
Same for me.. I took the femibion. I was prescribed magnesium and iron as I was further along in my pregnancy, based on what I needed. As to for the gestationdiabetes test I was given a liquid at the gynecologist‘s office and it was current flavoured.
In the netherlands after giving birth you also get kraamzorg. That is a nurse who comes to your home for 5 to 7 days who takes care of mother en child and also doing some light home work like cooking and cleaning. Makes sure that the mother takes her naps and gives advice about everything that you have to know
… in Germany too.
@@kathi_LG TBH not to the degree as in the Dutch system.
Wow, that is amazing 👏🏼. There are options like that in the US, but insurance would likely not cover it, so it would be all extra money out of pocket to pay. Would love to see more of that normalized in the US.
Thanks for sharing!
@@OurStorytoTell The reason for this intensive care at home in the Netherlands is probably that the rate for home births there is traditionally around 30%. This figure is extremely high by European standards. So in order to minimize the associated risks outside of a clinical environment, more professional help is needed at home.
@@OurStorytoTell and it is for free
I agree that many pregnant women might need certain additional nutrients. But not all pregnant women are identical in their needs. Supplements with high dosages of all minerals and vitamins can lead to overdosing on some of the ingredients if not ALL of them are needed. Basically only vitamin C is non-toxic in any dosage, as it is easy to get rid of and it doesn't block other receptors. Any excess vitamin C is gotten rid of via urine. All other nutrients, especially folic acid, can have serious detrimental side effects in too high dosages.
That's why most non-prescription supplements available in pharmacies in Germany are limited to only a handful of directly related nutrients, and in relatively low dosages. At least those you can get in the pharmacy.
Unfortunately there are quite a few supplements you can get in your local grocery store/supermarket that throw a bunch of supplements at you without any reasonable explanation on dosages and regularity of application, nor duration of application. Which is something I find very concerning.
But at least a pharmacist usually knows very well which supplements to advise on, contrary to those supermarket supplements.
Therefore using a generalist approach to supplements can be more detrimental than beneficial. With sufficient knowledge, advice, and care handpicked supplements however will certainly be beneficial, but only dependant on the specific situation of each pregnant woman.
It's especially important to consult qualified professionals for any supplements. Personally, we don't use any supplements, with the exception to occasional Vitamin D for the darker winter months, because we know we get enough of the nutrients through our diets.
That's right. The supplement industry is unfortunately another area that has been overtaken by companies who are looking to make a lot of money. Pair that with supplements not being regulated, and you never really know what they have in their product.
I took Folio pre-pregnancy and then switched to Femibion for the pregnancy and time of breastfeeding that has many of those additional supplements you mentioned. Both were recommended by my doctor.
Thanks for sharing!
For prenatal vitamins I used femibion on all of my 3 pregnancys. It has more ingredients as folio, especially the once after the 12 week mark. Usually for the clucose test, you'll get a prescription and buy a flavored drink in a pharmacy. The way you had to do it, is outdated... It used to be done like that, seems that some doctors refuse to go with the time 😬
Wish you all the best for your remaining weeks of pregnancy 🍀✊️
All very interesting. It seems like German efficiency is really coming to the fore. I really wish you a successful final few weeks of pregnancy and take care not to slip on ice or snow if you still have some. I wonder how quickly Willa will realise that she has a sister who needs a lot of attention in the first days and weeks. I can't remember what I felt when my mum brought my newborn sister back from the hospital. I was four years older and Jane cried a lot!
Thank you 💛. We are taking care whenever we do need to go outside. Luckily, today the final bit of ice and snow melted 🙌. We are soaking up the final weeks with just the three of us! Willa seems to understand that baby is coming really soon, so we will see how the transition will be. We’re sure there will be an adjustment for the attention shift to baby girl and the crying 😅
When I had my glucose drink in 2004 (Munich) I remember it was a red sweet drink, not just sugar in warm water
I would have preferred that honestly 😂
as a single male without kids, for around 90% of the video i was like "whats she telling here?" :D but first of all, i guess we're all happy to know that everything is fine with the baby. so lets hope its gonna stay that way :)
i know you didnt really judge or rate both the american and the german pregnancy health coverage systems - as i may put it - but i wonder how much you'd have to pay in the states if you would add all those extra examinations, appointments and time off if you want that same sort of coverage that you get here in europe.
It is a lot to keep up with if you haven't heard much about prenatal care before (Tanner has learned a lot along the way 😂 ). Thank you! Things are well and we're hoping it stays that way too.
A great question about the German and American health care systems. I'm pretty sure we'll be doing a recap of our thoughts comparing this birth to Willa's in the US, so keep an eye out for that video in the future!
no idea how many Ultrasounds my ex-wife had with my daughter, but its been a few more than just 1 or 2....
and we have been gesetzlich Krankenversichert!
I'm going to get criticism for this remark but I think you are crazy to plan a 5 week journey in a camper van or, worse still, a tent with a newborn. The baby will get nothing from this trip and will also have no routine or peace and quiet which is, in my opinion , essential at this young age. I found the first few months being at home getting used to my baby and she getting used to our family and routines wonderful and for me it was essential to be able to have a nap when she slept. I couldn't imagine travelling every day at such a time.
I also think it would be easier for Willa to adjust to being a big sister in her own home with her own routine and the security of her familiar Kita which gives her time away from the baby who needs your attention in the first few weeks.
I know it's none of my business but as an experienced mum who also works in a Kita I felt someone had to say this. You will be surprised at the huge difference a second child brings to a family and not all children are the same, your experience might be completely different to that with Willa as a newborn and what if there are problems when you are far away in Norway for example.
Sorry to say all this. I love your videos and I think you have done a great job with Willa she's an adorable child and I wish you all the luck with the rest of the pregnancy and birth and can't wait for you to show us your new daughter.
No we are grateful you feel comfortable to share. 😊 We should have mentioned that we aren’t planning on the road-trip until baby will be 5-6 months old! We know that is still young for some people, but for the first couple months we plan to take things slow as we adjust to a family of four. 💗
Well that’s reassuring and knowing what good parents you are I’m sure everything will work out fine for you all. Enjoy your last few weeks as a family of three ❤️
This brought back some memories!
I can only talk about my own experiences (4 full term pregnancies) with the last 18 years ago.
Due to having diabetes in the family, I was screened for it, by my gynecologist, at every appointment (no need for fasting 🤷♀️).
With every pregnancy, I had prescriptions for folic acid. Later in the pregnancies Magnesium was recommended. No other supplements, but advice for "take it easy" and "sun" lol.
Thanks for your comment! Congrats on 4 full term pregnancies! 👏
I had to do a Glucose test without being pregnant and I had to drink a liquid from the pharmacy which tasted like a multivitamin juice. Wasn't bad at all.
When I am at a gynacologist I always wear a long T Shirt. But I don't find it more akward then the examination itself. The doctor will see everything anyways.😁
The long t-shirt is a great idea! You’re right though, it is kind of silly to even wear a long shirt cause during exams it does you know good 😅
It is so interesting to hear about this topic from an other perspektiv. Wish you all the best for the birth. Sending love to you ❤️Rebecca
Thank you so much Rebecca! 💗
Hi, your traveling plans to Norway are great. It's the most beautiful country in Europe. And the best way is to travel with a camper, so you can see a lot of the nature. But please notice, you have to go to the west coast around Bergen and Hardangerfjord and maybe further north around Jostedalsbreen Nationalpark and Sognefjord, there are so great views. There are enough beautiful places to rest at camping places or just in the wildness, it's allowed.
All the best for your pregnancy, hope it is not the last 😁
Ohh thank you for these tips! We will write them down and make sure we hit them! 😊
I wish you and your Baby all the best!
Thank you!!
May I recommend Finland as a good destination once the littlest is older? Renting a summer house next to a lake (with an outdoor toilet) was so much fun when we were kids.
That sounds amazing! So fun you guys could do that!
@@OurStorytoTell 😃 very few things are better than taking a swim under the midnightsun!
What a cool video. I don't know so much about these things, so it was very interesting to listen to you talking with so many informations about it. I you are so adorable when talking about it with so much passion and getting so excited. That is really cool and I love it.
I'm so happy for you, new baby will have amazing parents and wonderful big sister.
Wish you a nice week.
Aww such a kind comment! Thank you for watching and the support!
That brought back bad memories 😅 You're right! The drink is like 🤢 Did you also notice the difference in baby essentials between the USA and Germany? 😅 Some of my friends here in the US had a baby last year and I've noticed so many differences. For example the bassenett, the changing table... This could also be an interesting topic 😊 It's on my list for one of my next videos 😉and I'd love to hear what you have noticed as you are living on the other side 😉☺️
Prenatal vitamins in most of Europe including Germany are analysed, tested and submitted to laws.
It is probably less components than what you have in USA because a regular Euro diet has more nutriments than a regular USA diet?
Also the USA is to this day the only remaining country in the "western world" that does not have a policy federal wise on maternity leave benefits.Heck even Irak has one.
whether you are pregnant or not, supplemental nutritients just make expensive urin if you don´t have an lack of them. so first do bloodwork etc, and then decide about supplements.
Lovely to see a Risa here your pregnancy experience so far in Germany
Why i was pregnant with my 2 sons back in the 80’s taken Folic. Was never advised in-fact no extra supplements
I only had 1 ultrasound whole pregnancy that was at the beginning as they thought i was expecting twins ( my uterus was growing very fast ) luckly for me was not twins 😜
I had both home births ( first was quite an experience 48 hours in labour & over due ) 2nd was much easier very quick 37 wks .
Risa not long now where the time gone , the months are flying past 😜 .
Have a Good day 🥰
Just amazed me how much has changed in the years for pregnancy care & Infant 😊 🤔
Will be oma for the first time come the summer so its been very interesting hearing from my Daughter in law about her pregnancy journey 💕.
My glucose test in Germany (three times) was a flavored drink I picked up from the pharmacy. I could pick orange or black current. I brought it with me to the OB, they poured it in the glass and I drank it there. They took three finger prick blood samples. Before I drank, after one and 2 hours.
As for my birth plan, we first discussed it around 32 weeks with my second pregnancy . Since it was a birth after a c-section I was asked, “do you have physiological issues and want another section? There are no indications for another c-section so unless your last birth traumatized you, you will be doing a VBAC.” He then gave me a slip of paper with his cell phone number and said call me 24 hours a day if you feel you need support/back-up during labor. The head OB at the hospital is my brother. I have pull there. 😂
I have regular German public insurance and had at least a quick US at almost every OB visit performed by my OB.
As for walking out naked from the changing room, I was always asked to bring a towel to sit on which used around me as I walked the 10 steps to the exam table.
I took Folio starting a year before I became pregnant. No one recommended it to me. I researched on my own.
My last pregnancy was 16 years ago.
Oh, how I wish I could have had a flavored glucose test 😂. Thanks for sharing your experience! We love hearing how others have experienced health care 💛
They are propably banned for pregnant woman. There was an instants with the pre-made in a pharmacy in cologne a few years ago.
@@chrisg.4934 They are still available. I just checked out of curiosity. I did remember there was a recall at one point. Hasn’t almost everything had a recall at some point -chocolate for metal pieces, baby formula for impurities, medications for Inaccurate dosing rice, flour….. But obviously a self mixed sugar solution works as well.
Are you going to apply for Elterngeld? You can get it even if you are self employed. At the very least you should get the minimal amount.
Thanks a lot for your update Risa. Seems that everything is fine with you and your baby which sounds great. I am sure you are smart enough that you communicate any additional pills with your doc. Your decisions to take a motorhome and to take time for 5 weeks are good. Your map doesnt show exactly where you want to go but its closed to a very interesting region. Well, I will provide some infos the next days and will raise also an inquiry for you in my fishing community as well.
Thanks, Howie RFS! Things are well and we are getting more excited each day that passes to have her here 😊.
Also, that’s kind of you to be willing to share some information/tips with us 💛. Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Thanks for taking us with you!🖤
Please mark your ads with „Werbung“ in a corner. Otherwise you can get a legal penalty for going against the European law regards commercial rules. And that would be so sad. Especially if you pin it in the comments.
All the best for the upcoming interesting times😊
Thanks for joining along!
As for the ads, we included the TH-cam button that says the video contains promotional content (at the beginning). In our opinion, that should be adequate, no?
@@OurStorytoTell Yes, saw that at the beginning 👍
But as far as I’m aware, through watching other content, and having a good friend working in the influencer world, it isn’t enough in Germany/Europe.
Please talk to someone with a deeper understanding of that topic😌
@@vvn8066No, it's not needed anymore to put "Werbung".
I never had to take the Glucose test during my 2 pregnancies in Germany nor in the US with my last one🤷🏼♀️! Not even offered to me!
Soo interesting to hear! I feel like it’s the standard to (at least) be asked! Especially in the states.
It is a medical test, and as a doctor in germany (different specialty though) i learned that only medically necessary tests are offered. So if you had normal blood sugar levels, maybe you didnt need a glocose test.
Folio was also recommended to me from everyone like gynocologists, pharmacists and midwifes, but I new of "fermibion" through advertisement and other moms recommended that to me as well, so I'm using this now (since week 13)
Congrats on the pregnancy!! I have never heard of Fermibion until today! Thanks for sharing!
Folio is just basic. Only those, that many women here are lacking for the very nature of Germany. And only those that might be a hindrance to getting pregnant, or for the first weeks of pregnancy. If you don't get these, the probability of a severe handicap is higher. E.g. that a cell does not split up in the correct way, which causes things like spina bifida or a short bowel ending nowhere or prune belly, or... I know, because me and a neighbour we had this problem for another reason, and hers has spina bifida and mine prune belly.
When the baby gets bigger and needs really a lot, you might change to Femibion. This has all vitamines, and additional elements like iron. This will lower your feeling of being weak or unwell.
With my second and third baby I started far earlier with Femibion, and it stopped nausea and cravings.
I will have to look k to Femibion! I chose to do my American supplements (that were shown in the video) because I knew I wanted there to be more vitamins & minerals included than Folio too.
@@OurStorytoTell it is just more expensive than folio. Up to 30 Euros per package, which was for a month, if I remember correctly. But you can get it at every Pharmacy, Drogerie, and even in some supermarkets.
Hi there nice to see that you and the baby are in good health, yes there are a few difference to the US, you realy are trying to do the best for your baby and your self.❤❤❤
We really are!! Thanks for your comment! 💗
All dietary supplements are regulated by the federal ordinance on dietary supplements (Verordnung über Nahrungsergänzungsmittel). There is a list of approved ingredients that are allowed to be in supplements. If a manufacturer or importer wants to have ingredients in a supplement that are not on the list a special permit from the federal office for consumer protection and food safety (Bundesamt für Verbraucherschutz und Lebensmittelsicherheit) needs to be obtained before a market launch of the supplement. State authorities of each federal state are in charge to check on a regular basis that all supplements sold in their federal state are in compliance with the federal ordinance or have a permit if necessary.
Thanks for sharing this! Super interesting!
You can not call yourself a registered dietitian in Germany, since there is no such thing. You can call yourself "Ernährungsberater*in", which is not protected so you can not be registered. Or you are a "Diätassistent*in", which is a state approved job. Where you whould have had 3 years vocational training and a "Staatsexamen". Since you have not been that long in Germany i doubt you are the latter.
Which would put you in serious trouble if you keep calling yourself "registerd dietitian", while practicing in Germany.
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She is what she is. She is practising her job remotely for US citizens, I guess. You cannot give yourself a job title of a different country, just because you currently live in that country.
Uh, a road trip with a new born baby? Maybe that will become very stressful. The time after a birth in my opinion is meant to be to get adjusted to the new situation. I personally would overthink this plan. Nevertheless I wish you and your family all the best!
Love you guys and your channel.. but this made me angry! LADIES PLEASE DO THE GESTATIONAL DIABETES TEST!
I have never had "sugar in water" in Germany... you get a glucose fluid drink and if you have problems with it, you can buy a flavoured sugar drink from the chemist to take with you to drink for the test (like in the USA). Also if you are registered with a gynaecologist and midwife, you are sent to a diabetes specialist for the test. What is described here is not typical and maybe because her health insurance is not a german one and she is doing everything as an "out patient" at a clinic.
Also it is normal not to eat or drink before urine, blood, sugar tests and OPs because the doctors need your "resting" values BEFORE they give you tests/drugs etc. This is STANDARD everywhere..if they didn't do this.. they couldn't SEE your bodies response to the test because they wouldn't have a BASE LEVEL to go by!
It is totally IRRESPONSIBLE not to do the diabetes test. I had gestational diabetes with both kids.. i was strict with my diet and kept sugar under control during my pregnancy so my kids had no physical damage. I luckily didn't need insulin.
I have family in the UK ..she had pregnancy diabetes, didn't test, and her child has had disabilities since birth because his organs grew to big!..the damage to the foetus/your baby if you have pregnancy diabetes can be extensive and permanent causing many health issues and even after birth surgery for years... WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT THIS FOR THEIR CHILD? When you can avoid it with a 2hr test!.which is a few hours of discomfort for the safty of your baby!
Ps they do the test at the doctors to make sure it is done 100% correctly because you have to stay still so that you do not burn the glucose through physical exercise to see how your body responds and processes the blood sugar! (Basic science and biology!)
The neck fold down syndrome test is normal all over Europe and the UK.
You get a mother passport from the 12 week which goes through to post birth care.
well, the pharmacy will give you the ones that they would recommend without a blood test. but the pharmasist as well as you ob-gyn should do a big blood test on your first appointment and then recommend extra on top. i had a very high iron deficiency and therefor was blood checked monthly for various nutrition. i even ask him to transfer me for that to my normal doc as they have a special nurse and i‘m absolutely scared of needles and she is a magician for drawing blood for me.
so from my experience most woman get extra subliments but only with extra blood test and not just from the shelves on a wild guess.
for me i had 3 different iron sources , magnesium, selenium, vitamin e and k i believe.
We agree that a blood test should be given at first! I know they took my blood, but I wasn’t told to take any specific additional supplements. My doctor actually hardly asked about supplements which was a little bit alarming to me. I agree with you about the importance! Happy you were able to get more additional supplements that were needed. 😊
@@OurStorytoTell i would probably guess, since in germany the doc appointments are not limited and open to anyone (as anyone is insured by default) pharmacy offer the bare minimum and know extra will be „found“ upon check ups. however i‘m stunned that your doc did not go in detail with you on that. both my midwife and doc made sure i was checked and even advised on extra dentist appointments and such. i was referred back to my general doc for advice on vaccinations and they did extra blood work and blood pressure checks. they told me to ask my female ancestors (mom, aunts, grandma etc for their pregnancy experiences: like blood pressure issues, more amniotic fluids, birth stories etc besides the normal genetic issues) and added that into my mutterpass (was an extra foldout that they glues in in the back).
What is a birthplan?
When I had my son in Manhattan in the 70s, ther was practically no care before or after. Hope that has changed in the meantime. Midwife??
Vitaminähnliche Substanz
Für den Menschen stellt die Aufnahme von Cholin keine Notwendigkeit dar, solange seine Nahrung die Aminosäure Methionin und Folsäure enthält. Früher galt Cholin als Vitamin und wurde - wie auch das Adenin - als Vitamin B4 bezeichnet, obwohl bekannt war, dass die Verbindung vom menschlichen Organismus synthetisiert werden kann. Cholin wurde daher vielfach als vitaminähnliche Substanz (Vitaminoid) klassifiziert.
Allerdings scheint eine gewisse Aufnahme von Cholin durch die Nahrung nötig zu sein. So konnte in einem Experiment gezeigt werden, dass eine Kunstnahrung mit extrem geringem Cholin-Gehalt zu Muskelschäden und Fettleber führt.
Don't panic - Choline as a supplement is not as necessary as you think it is.
Hi,
I´m pretty conservative with medicine, extra vitamins and so on. I mean the human body gave birth for thousands of years now, without doctor without extra vitamins. The body usually does all correctly. Additionally nowadays we have the most diverse food all over the whole world all over the whole year. A nowadays human usually gets all it needs. (Just imagine the food situation 100 years ago)
Usually. Yes. So as long as the tests are all good there is no need to worry at all. Usually. So good thing is that nowadays we have all the test and and we have the medicine the ultrasonic and so on.
One should be way more relaxed than 100 years ago. But sadly - internet and hearsay and advertisements cause more fear than necessary. A birth is the most natural thing for .. not only humans.
I can only recommend to do all the tests - and as long as they are good: Listen to your body, do the things you like to do, eat the things you like to do and relax. Stress and fear is not good for you and for your baby.
Lovely comment! We agree the food is the most important over supplements! And We agree that avoiding stress is key!! Thanks for the comment 😊
Do you consider yourself pregnant after intercourse whether you're showing or not?
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Hallo Risa und Tanner, ich wünsche euch beiden, und der großen Schwester Willa, alles Gute und eine angenehme Schwangerschaft Liebe Grüße aus Düsseldorf
Prenatals: your gyn will check your needs and tell you. Folio is for all ok and do not harm any.
Mine never told me they were testing to see if I needed any extra supplements other than my prenatals, but maybe they still did test for it? Not sure! I did/am taking a prenatal with a lot of vitamins & minerals though as you saw in the video.
When foreigners find out even the men can leave for months after having a child in germany and most other EU countries, because of the law and not "generous" employers(they wouldnt do it if the state didnt force them) - Surprised Pikachu Face.
Sorry, this diabetes should never be opted out an I'm glad, we have it here in Germany. It protects both, Mother an Child from getting sick. They take two tests, because the increase or decrease shows them, if and how your body works.🤗
We understand that viewpoint for sure! 😊
I read somewhere that it cost about 10.000 dollar to have a baby in the US...even then and even babies are big business for coorporate America...there are so much improvments America needs to do towards its citizens for the richest country in the world to live up to the claim to also be the best country in the world.
Richest country in the world? You mean Luxembourg, Singapore, Qatar, Switzerland..? Which one?
Also, "best country" for sure 😂😂 It's so ridiculous to me how indoctrinated most americans are about their country
We can confirm that having a baby in the US is close to that number! Fortunately for us, insurance covered practically everything for prenatal care, delivery and any follow up visits, but we know for a lot of people, that's not always the case. It's also worth noting that Willa's birth was likely cheaper than others because there was no anesthesia, induction, C-section, intensive care for baby or momma, etc. We can imagine how much the total cost increases when you start factoring those additional services. Improvements definitely are needed!
@manzanasrojas6984 richest in probably total GNP. Definitely not rich in too many other riches.
I never did any tests when I was pregnant - it is you that decides ... in any country ... I had a natural birth, no medicines, nothing ... my daughter was and is perfectly healthy.
Me neither. My kids are both healthy and I didn't take anything. They were both born at a Geburtshaus.
Love the holistic approach! 💗 sounds like you were healthy and have a diverse diet!
Well... aren't you lucky...
and selling a product, apparently.
@@sisuguillam5109 oh really? What exactly am I selling ? STrange that being HEALTHY provokes nastiness in some people.
you can go a few hours without food, right? only after many days without, one dies.😉
Haha not when pregnant 😂😂
Jk I know you can, but man it is hard when growing a baby!
@@OurStorytoTell Also then! I always wonder, how women do it in famine areas! 😏
Most of the doctors here have absolutely no idea about supplements. I agree that guidelines are important but it's kind of the other extreme in Germany where nobody checks any vitamins and minerals apart from very few like Natrium/Kalium. The whole topic is definitely not considered enough in our medical standards and a lot of people would probably benefit from more knowledge.
The more I am learning, the more I agree with your comment! It’s the same in the states too. American doctors do NOT get proper nutrition education; especially an OBGYN in my opinion.
@@OurStorytoTell yes definitely! It is so sad because there are so many illnesses where proper nutrition could help and it would also prevent so much to make sure that people are in a good state from early childhood on. I don't really get it 🤷🏼♀️
Caravan tour to Norway ? Oh yes please report
You know we will 😊
The book is accessible to every mom at any given time, no access to internet or a computer needed, works during a power outage too.
No unauthorized access, no danger of it being hacked. No privacy issues.
Having it in your possession comes with the responsibility to take care of it and not forget to take it - like your house keys, for example.
Do you guys hear yourself talking, sometimes?
The convenience of not being able to forget it? Seriously?
Gosh ... this generation is SO messed up ...
So messed up, huh? Tell us how you really feel. The point is that it can be easy to forget things, especially when most everything in today's world is online/electronic...
Bei Ihnen passt der Name.
@@OurStorytoTell Ignore that account... they are so damn unpleasant and not worth your time.
A friend had her Mutterpass stolen at work. She kept it in her pigeon hole with internal (non confidential) mail and someone nicked it. Everyone was so upset when we found out... because who does that?
Having a paper version is perfectly fine and safe but having data stored digitally in a place that complies with data protection would be a boon!
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I wonder how women in the past, like in the 1800 managed to give birth, without all this stuff..
If look at infant and maternal mortality rates, the sometimes just did not...
They died. They suffered. The kids died. The kids suffered.
Kids and mothers had deformed/brittle bones as well.
@@j.a.1721 But it was still enough for a total overpopulation of 8 billion people, which we have built up over time
Your channel is getting more and more a selling channel 😪
Thanks for the feedback 👍🏼. Ideally, no ads would be great, right? We are trying to only have one ad per month and to only work with companies who’s product we use.
after all, the goal of every youtuber is to make money.
I can understand that you don´t like ads and product placements in the videos. On the other hand we need to understand that it takes a lot of work to create good content and the equipment needed (cameras, laptops, cutting programms) is not for free either. That´s the same with free TV channels. In order to get at least the money spended on equipment and some compensation for the work, you need to bring in some ads and product placements. There is simply no way to avoid that. If you want good content and no ads you need to cover these costs by paying for the content.
Looking at child mortality data, the US appear to have some room for improvement: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_L%C3%A4nder_nach_Kindersterblichkeitsrate
A frightening statistic, indeed. Sadly, this isn't the only area where there is a need for great improvement.