Clara Schumann: Drei Romanzen Op. 21 (1853)

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  • Drei Romanzen Op. 21 (1853) (score), Clara Wieck-Schumann (1819-1886). Ilja Scheps, piano.
    1. Andante (00:00)
    2. Allegretto: Sehr zart zu spielen (5:02)
    3. Agitato (6:27)
    Clara Schumann (born Clara Josephine Wieck; 13 September 1819 - 20 May 1896) was a German musician and composer, considered one of the most distinguished pianists of the Romantic era. She exerted her influence over a 61-year concert career, changing the format and repertoire of the piano recital and the tastes of the listening public. Her husband was the composer Robert Schumann. Together they encouraged Johannes Brahms. She was the first to perform publicly any work by Brahms. She later premiered some other pieces by Brahms, notably the Variations and Fugue on a Theme by Handel.
    As part of the broad musical education given her by her father, Clara Wieck learned to compose, and from childhood to middle age she produced a good body of work. Clara wrote that "composing gives me great pleasure... there is nothing that surpasses the joy of creation, if only because through it one wins hours of self-forgetfulness, when one lives in a world of sound". At age fourteen she wrote her piano concerto, with some help from Robert Schumann, and performed it at age sixteen at the Leipzig Gewandhaus with Mendelssohn conducting.
    I don't own the audio nor the scores shown in the video.
    audio: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMYSq...
    score: imslp.nl/imglnks/usimg/f/fa/IM...
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  • @annauwuu
    @annauwuu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Clara and Robert Schumann needs more recognition, they’re so underrated and their music are beautiful ✨✨✨✨✨✨

    • @lflagr
      @lflagr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lol Robert Schumann gets plenty of recognition, he's one of our greatest piano composers of all time, many of his big works such as the Piano Concerto, Kinderszenen, Carnaval, etc. are staples of the piano repertoire. Clara is gaining more recognition though.

  • @johannabopp6488
    @johannabopp6488 5 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Liszt wrote of how he loved Clara Schumann's compositions and I can see why. There are a lot of awkward hand positions that Liszt also employed where the player must have a very open hand and exceptional span which she must have had for all those 10th etc. Some of this is similar to Chopin's "Hades" Prelude which is the most difficult of his preludes, but surpasses even that level of difficulty. Very challenging yet beautiful music here.

    • @JJ21210
      @JJ21210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Comments like this enhance my appreciation - thank you very much. (I've listened to classical radio for about 30 years and I particularly love music from about 1820 through 1920, but I know nothing about music.) Thanks again.

    • @zanexiao4488
      @zanexiao4488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think Liszt appreciated Clara Schumann's music because the music itself more than because it was difficult. Besides these three pieces are really not difficult at all.

    • @jt6500
      @jt6500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Have you actually played any of her piano compositions? While, yes, they require modifications for small hands, they also fall under the fingers better than any other composers' works I've played. She knew her instrument and knew how to write for it, which is abundantly clear to any pianist that informs their opinion with practice.

    • @johannabopp6488
      @johannabopp6488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jt6500 I have played the Nocturne in F and the Scherzo in Dm. If you took my comment on awkwardness as some sort of slight, I'm very sorry to hear that, because it was nothing of the sort. I have been a pianist for most of my life and have dedicated a lot of time to my craft. There are pieces that fit very nicely under the hand, much like Chopin, and there are others that require what I like to say, more gymnastics, like Liszt. That's not a bad thing, and in my view, proves the legitimacy of her technical prowess, something which some have tried to downplay.

    • @danielcambridge4938
      @danielcambridge4938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johannabopp6488 Hello Johanna how is the weather over there?

  • @blackpoolram
    @blackpoolram 6 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Oh Clara! Mendelssohn, Chopin, Liszt and your beloved Robert should have afforded you more credit.

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Repent and trust in Jesus. We all deserve Hell for our sins, such as lying lusting coveting and more. We can't save ourselves, but Jesus can save us. He died on the cross to save us for our sins and rose from the grave defeating death and Hell. You must put your faith in him only. He is the only way to Heaven. Repent and trust in Jesus.
      Romans 6:23
      John 3:16❤😊❤❤

  • @catherinejones9396
    @catherinejones9396 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    These were very enjoyable and played beautifully. I like Ms Schumann's work. She must have been one of the busiest working mums of her age!

  • @PetStuBa
    @PetStuBa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Clara had a LOT of talent !!!!! great composer

    • @Johanna650
      @Johanna650 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totalment d'acord amb vostè

  • @woodnight1288
    @woodnight1288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I heard compositions of Clara Schumann for the first time. It sounds new for me. I want to play one of those if I could.

    • @luxio7916
      @luxio7916 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      these are very fun to play 😄😄

  • @sergioazevedo7390
    @sergioazevedo7390 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    marvellous music and playing!

  • @Kylejphotographer
    @Kylejphotographer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Definitely one of my favorite pieces

  • @jardinssecretsaupiano
    @jardinssecretsaupiano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superbe interprétation, merci!!!

  • @alessandropelizzoli6613
    @alessandropelizzoli6613 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    La prima bellissima romanza assomiglia in qualche modo al tema degli Studi Sinfonici di Schumann

  • @user-ec8rm9hr8q
    @user-ec8rm9hr8q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic 🙂👍🎵🇬🇷

  • @MarianoStatelloPiano
    @MarianoStatelloPiano 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    beautiful!

  • @MariaCristinaBranciari-wp2bk
    @MariaCristinaBranciari-wp2bk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grazie amico caro

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It is closer to Mendelssohn's than to his husband's music. Anyway, it is excellent and would deserve to be better known.

    • @raymondgood2359
      @raymondgood2359 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      robert's music also souds like mendelsshon's at times. i think he was a big influence on them both.

    • @jamjam9253
      @jamjam9253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Trihardious Maximus shut up

    • @haz-adler4423
      @haz-adler4423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It is closer to Clara*...

  • @thibautvidalie3465
    @thibautvidalie3465 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    trop beau

  • @minghaogong2343
    @minghaogong2343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    There is a direct quotation of Schumann: Introduction And Concert-Allegro, Op.134, which is Robert's birthday gift to Clara. She must miss her husband at the onset of his crysis. 5:02

    • @followyouaround
      @followyouaround ปีที่แล้ว

      but she dedicated this to johannes brahms hehe

    • @minghaogong2343
      @minghaogong2343 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@followyouaround Lol Thanks for letting me know. Dedication doesn't exactly play an equal role compared to the quotes. There are much more complicated stories behind title dedication (e.g., Schumann dedicated his Fantasy in C to Liszt). We know in those problematic times Brahms provides great comfort to Clara, considering Brahms is basically the liaison between the couples. But what I heard from this piece is not characteristic of Clara, it is very personal and emotional, even outcrying and despairing in 4:14. I have never heard Clara compose sth. like this (so Robert's style) before and after.

  • @d3rechtebenno561
    @d3rechtebenno561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Voll cool

  • @MariaCristinaBranciari-wp2bk
    @MariaCristinaBranciari-wp2bk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chiusi gli occhi per poter immaginare tra viali odorosi un magico momento simile al sogno e vedere la profondità del cielo scenario testimone di sensazioni cosmiche

  • @misslemon6032
    @misslemon6032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awakens the senses

  • @adoraswift4298
    @adoraswift4298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Me at the beginning: Ok I could never play this
    Me at 3:52 : Jesus chr-😵

  • @proarte4081
    @proarte4081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1) Notturno
    2) Intermezzo
    3) Studio

  • @justcallmerachel4197
    @justcallmerachel4197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    me, seeing and listening only the first few bars of the first piece : oh i could actually play this and it sounds very lovely, i think i just found my next program!
    me at the end of the piece : ok nevermind.

  • @Jimyblues
    @Jimyblues 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ty Uploader always appreciate the score - this is interesting music- the enjoyment for me isn’t in the melodies, or the close to the hip harmonies - it’s how full it is, how beautifully the accompaniments fit the melodies and that creates a flowing sound which - just my opinion- a Chopin style melody or Lisztian left hand tremolos would detract from.

  • @luisfernandotapia451
    @luisfernandotapia451 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Clara loved 10ths

    • @MrAristaeus
      @MrAristaeus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So did Brahms...

    • @aseempawaskar
      @aseempawaskar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrAristaeus well it's opus 21... so... too soon?😂

    • @StressKind
      @StressKind 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, my hands don't :/

  • @lorenzopone869
    @lorenzopone869 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't help, but notice that Brahms was barely 20 when his future best friend and probably lifelong lover Clara Schumann had written these pieces as well as her Op. 11; and, please attack me if I'm wrong, some pianistic solutions that we find here, in terms of use of the registers, density, contrapuntal, melodic and harmonic movements, instrumentation, and that we are used to associate with the late mature Brahms... they appear here with such a literal evidence, that I can't help but being struck!

  • @hugoflores8090
    @hugoflores8090 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wows

  • @Priemula77
    @Priemula77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ye!

  • @Rose-zg9pu
    @Rose-zg9pu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    6:48 i recognize chopins nocturne op 9 no 3

    • @camilaossespiano
      @camilaossespiano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And that unexpected modulation is very not Chopin.

    • @vickysalinas3364
      @vickysalinas3364 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mozart sounds like Haydn, so what?

  • @areenabukishek5464
    @areenabukishek5464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I came here after watching do you like brahms?

  • @odedfried-gaon2880
    @odedfried-gaon2880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Riveting and complex, incredible shame she didn't get more recognition!
    #OdedFriedGaon #OdedMusic #Audioded

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dedicados a Clara. ?👋👋👋

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Romances de de Clara. ? 🎹.

  • @Fga5443
    @Fga5443 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wunderschöne Stücke, aber eine grobe Interpretation.

  • @Noa.Shakti
    @Noa.Shakti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    მადლიერებას აღვივებს სმენის უნარის ქონაზე და გაფიქრებს, ნუთუ ამის მოსმენა იმავე ყურებს შეუძლიათ, ტრივიალური ცხოვრების ყოველდღიური სისულელეებით რომ იჭედებიან?!
    დასაკვირვებელია, რას ვუშვებთ ყურში.. იმ ცალშიც, ღია დერეფნის ფუნქცია რომ მიგვინიჭებია ❤️

  • @Johanna650
    @Johanna650 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    En aquell temps compondre deien que era cosa masculina. No comprenen que Déu pot donar talent a una persona encara que sigui dona. I a més, era dona de Schumann que era un geni. Ella tenia facultats i amb el seu marit....la combinació era perfecta perquè fos una bona compositora i coneguda. Hi ha altres compositores femelles que no les coneix ni tan sols el més erudit dels directors d'orquestra

  • @Alkadondon
    @Alkadondon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:48

  • @kxrxlx1
    @kxrxlx1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wer ist auch wegen Schule als Hausaufgabe hier?

    • @Sytrax
      @Sytrax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kiril alter freund

    • @antii777
      @antii777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ich lmao

    • @NoyeleyZ
      @NoyeleyZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ich bin auch wegen schule hier

  • @huliolamberts5133
    @huliolamberts5133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    among us

  • @ElSmusso
    @ElSmusso 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The female Liszt

  • @timyu2948
    @timyu2948 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Stereotype: Women composers can't write difficult mus...
    *Third Movement hits*

    • @jimmyalderson1639
      @jimmyalderson1639 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Tim Yu stereotype: stereotyping people as being stereotypers
      Reality hits

    • @zanexiao4488
      @zanexiao4488 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Clara's concerto is so difficult it makes Chopin's concerti look easy

    • @dawidp5484
      @dawidp5484 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are the first person from whom I heard this.

    • @klop4228
      @klop4228 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zanexiao4488 Not like difficulty is relevant to musicality. Look at Liszt.
      Not to say he didn't write anything worth listening to - his Piano Sonata is incredible, as are many of his orchestral works - but he also wrote some nonsense.
      Point being, difficulty ain't everything.

    • @marcosorrentiakaditirambo9306
      @marcosorrentiakaditirambo9306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @trihardous maximus lmao.
      Who are you by the way ? Lol

  • @gracelove886
    @gracelove886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think Clara was ahead of her time and a better composer than her husband. Young panists should learn more pieces and works from female composers of yester year. They have a lot to offer and Clara's work is very melodious and tricky to play'

  • @yaeltestarco5049
    @yaeltestarco5049 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    We need to know more woman composers, gender is not important in music

    • @alexlindsay2325
      @alexlindsay2325 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am just discovering the wonderful world of the Lady's touch in composition - including Louise Farrenc & Amy Beach

    • @dannydrumplayer2802
      @dannydrumplayer2802 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      You just said two completely different things.

    • @antonvandekar7597
      @antonvandekar7597 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That's a contradiction

    • @ricardorien
      @ricardorien 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Listen up Teresa Carreño.

    • @jimmyalderson1639
      @jimmyalderson1639 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ilaria Yae_the_Bae if gender isn't important then why do you need to know more female composers?

  • @christianweatherbroadcasting
    @christianweatherbroadcasting 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Repent and trust in Jesus. We all deserve Hell for our sins, such as lying lusting coveting and more. We can't save ourselves, but Jesus can save us. He died on the cross to save us for our sins and rose from the grave defeating death and Hell. You must put your faith in him only. He is the only way to Heaven. Repent and trust in Jesus.
    Romans 6:23
    John 3:16❤😊❤

  • @lukegelinas466
    @lukegelinas466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love Clara really hate this tradition of piano playing that the pianist was obviously trained in we get it it’s a romantic piece you can be liberal with rubato and such but it gets to the point where they’re not even playing the right rhythms anymore during 70% of the piece kind of putting the attention on the performer more than the music in my opinion

    • @christianwouters6764
      @christianwouters6764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, the pianist ignores the classical and restrained nature of the pieces and delivers a bombastic show. A kind of piano playing one would hope it is long extinct.

    • @jose4877
      @jose4877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed!!!

    • @7James77
      @7James77 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rubato is for thise who feel they know better than the composer because they themselves are inadequate at composing themselves.

  • @luizantoniofelisbertto8058
    @luizantoniofelisbertto8058 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    My opinion: Clara Schumann >>>> Schumann.

    • @abdousifelhak4486
      @abdousifelhak4486 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      no

    • @chiaracorrado8172
      @chiaracorrado8172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      In my opinion they are both special as a couple... Without Robert, Clara wouldn't have probably composed much, and without Clara Robert's music would have been completely different

    • @saltovitale5968
      @saltovitale5968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nice! But...no.

    • @alexclementechueca8668
      @alexclementechueca8668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I don't think so.(composer) But she was a better pianist, that for sure!

    • @eel9
      @eel9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i like em both

  • @white.gloves3166
    @white.gloves3166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0 respect for the rhythm wtf