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It is important to remember that the "He" in the song who died to make men holy is Christ. In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea / With a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me / As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free! / While God is marching on Note that many modern hymnals change the line about dying to "let us live to make men free."
John Brown's goal to start a slave rebellion failed spectacularly, but is goal to become a martyr probably succeeded to an greater extent than he could have hoped.
An "Heroic Defeat" can lead to win wars... I guess every country has its examples of this, I'm Chilean so the one we have here is Arturo Prat (a navy captain in the 1879 war).
His actions pushed the South to secede, and the fact his raid took place in Virginia may have swayed the state into joining the secessionists despite voting down secession twice. Virginia joining the CSA did more to prolong the war than anything else could have. As Tennessee and North Carolina would join them. Plus they had one of the best state militias. And some of the Union's best former officers such as Robert E Lee and Thomas Jackson were from Virginia.
@@barbiquearea On the other hand, maybe a short almost uneventful war also "maybe" wouldn't led to the 13th ammendment thing you guys have and maybe wouldn't end slavery at all, maybe it would just led to another "compromise" again... So, maybe a long bloody war was, as he probably thought, the "only" way. O.O
@@seanmcloughlin5983 it is. The line before it is “In the beauty of the lilies, Christ was born across the sea, with a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me”
Indeed. That's what it fundamentally comes down to, despite all the efforts of the USA to whitewash it and backtrack on the progress made. Slavers and those who support them are enemies of all humanity. It's as simple as that. The Union didn't go far enough. Not by a hundredth.
Last I checked, people were useing that kind of language to describe parents trying to protect their children from s3xual predators, and a boy in Kenosha that defended thimself from three armed men.
"Now if it is deemed necessary that I should forfeit my life for the furtherance of the ends of justice, and mingle my blood further with the blood of my children and with the blood of millions in this slave country whose rights are disregarded by wicked, cruel, and unjust enactments, I submit: so let it be done..." These words should be chiseled on every government building in the United States
@@quangle-zi2oz Hate the flag and everything it stands for, but it ultimately falls under 1st amendment protection. Can't ban it no matter how tasteless it is.
@@tuvoca825 if it's your property yes. Although it's hard to defile somthing so disgusting as a Confederate flag (The design ain't bad just what it represents, plus the American flag looks better)
I was only taught some of John Brown's raid while in school and this series was my first time learning about his methods and reasons. Now that I know, I can get behind the notion that "Battle Hymn of the Republic" be made into a secondary national anthem alongside the Star Spangled Banner.
radicalized christians (see baptists i live in the bible belt) made me hate all religious songs.. seeing that that one isn't about god as it seems from the lyrics. i'm with you.. it's a song worth being sung :3
@@larrychilders6599 They did the same to as kids,. Way to go Fulton County Georgia "educational" system!...jerks... (and they kept a tight lip about folks like Frederick Douglas and Sojourner Truth.) Sometimes I'm ashamed I come from the south.
Fun fact: the Southern reaction to John Brown's raid was so negative that his name literally became a curse. Southerners would say things like "I couldn't get the John-Browned thing to work"!
Brown's words ring so true. So many horrible deeds in American history have gone unpunished or even rewarded because they were done for those with power and influence. His punishment will always be deeply unjust.
@@johnholman3200 solem comfort for the victims who would never get to see it... So as one special figure says. "Sometimes we can't expect God to do all the work"
Speaking of the irony of those to witness Brown's execution, to my understanding, another one of these witnesses was a somewhat-known actor named John Wilkes Booth who would actually be inspired by Brown's commitment to a cause, (not, obviously, by his dedication to the ending of slavery.)
I attended school in rural missouri, and was taught by a history teacher who was unabashedly a fan of the lost cause myth, but credit where it's due, she did tell us about John Brown's raid, and did at least portray his motivations accurately. Of course... she neglected to mention all the terror southern states were raging in Kansas and Washington at the time... and paired it with a rant about General Sherman's march... so it was nice to be given a greater historical context for everything 🤣
Fun fact, the Kansas constitution has a provision that says the only time the state is allowed to borrow money and go into debt is if we are invaded by a neighboring state. It doesn't explicitly say Missouri but we all know that's implied.
Man is the definition of "losing the fight but winning the war" - his attempt at starting a rebellion and fighting against slavers with force failed horribly, and yet, he still found enough strength in him to keep fighting for the case after he survived the fight, and in that, he aided the cause more than he could've thought.
“He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat! He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat! Be swift, my soul, to answer Him! Be jubilant, my feet! His truth is marching on! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His truth is marching on!”
“In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, With a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me. As he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free! While God is marching on! Glory, Glory, Hallelujah! Glory, Glory, Hallelujah! Glory, Glory, Hallelujah! His truth is marching on!”
Makes me proud both sides of my family fought for the Union. Had a 3rd great grandpa in the 1st New York Light Artillery, another was in the Iron Brigade, and another in the Bucktail Brigade.
I had family on my mom's side stationed in Kansas and two that served in the 44th New York Volunteer Infantry Regiment. I had family members on my dad's side who did so as well. So this did stir my soul as well.
Had one relative in a New York regiment (can't remember the number offhand), and another who was in the 1st US Sharpshooters. Tended both of their graves in the family plot.
Every time I hear these stories about such heroes of America’s past I can’t help but remember a line I once read a book called “Culture Warlords” “We tend to like our noble lawbreakers to be comfortably in the past, where time and death have sanitized them into heroes, and to suffer those who struggle against injustice in the present only grudgingly, if at all.” The reason why I think about it so much, is that it’s easy in retrospect to look upon the past, with the benefit of how it bore out and know who was in the right of history. But what heroes against injustice of the modern day are we allowing to go unsung, because in our judgment, we hold some kind of qualms against their tactics in a fight for which we may not necessarily have as much at stake. I think more than anything that’s probably one of the most important lessons to learn from John Brown’s story.
An ever present and very noticeable sight right now. Between racial inequality and persecution, queer people's rights being stripped, and the us-funded murder of children in Palestine it is truly dumbfounding how a vast majority of people go about their lives ignoring such pressing issues for most of their lives; myself too often included in that.
Julia Howe also advocated to women’s suffrage. Battle Hymn is a fun and easy tune to play. Thanks for shedding light on this historical topic, the topic of John Brown’s raid was over within 1 minute in Georgia High school Curriculum (very brief). I was told Julia Howe was also a possible member of the secret six, but not sure as I never got a chance to meet any of them.
Battle Hymn of the Republic has a special place in my heart. Our national anthem is a rousing speech of bravery, but this just tugs at the strings. It's a song for the United States that was meant to be, that shining city on a hill. It's...America.
There are a lot of different verses for Battle Hymn of the Republic, but I think my favorite is "I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel "As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal" Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel Since God is marching on" The ending of slavery by war and blood was a holy crusade, and I cannot be persuaded otherwise
Its if not the only Holy War, in the literal meaning, It was pure, not tainted by gold nor glory as those claimed to be "holy" war, where in reality just a plundering backed by church.
This shows got me more knowledge of the US problem in early 1800s. My school here in Finland didn't cover much, well at all these times, so its great to learn about the times! Keep up the great work❤
I mean, my man, you're from Finland, you shouldn't be expected to learn much about US history, like me in south america didn't get much about US or Finland history.
Not that I'm saying it's bad, I love history and I probably would have gone to college for history if I thought there was any way to monetize that degree!
I honestly almost wished it was our national anthem. Star Spangled is good and all but if there's one thing I believe sums up at least the country the US wants to be seen as especially after the Civil War it would be the Battle Hymn of the Republic
@@SkyTreeStudio damn, I agree now. Violence in the name of freedom(or at least perceived freedom) does seem to be our go-to normal. We should make a petition!
@@SkyTreeStudiomy issue with Battle Hymn for an anthem is its Christian messaging. As a Christian myself, I like the lyrics, yes. However the issue stems from what the United States is in reality: a melting pot of differing faiths and cultures, limited not only to Christians or the Abrahamic faiths.
John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave But his soul goes marching on
He had gone to be a soldier in the army of the lord He had gone to be a soldier in the army of the lord He had gone to be a soldier in the army of the lord But his soul goes marching on!
He captured Harper’s Ferry with his nineteen men so true. He frightened ol’ Virginia till she trembled through and through. They hung him for a traitor, they themselves the traitor crew. But his soul goes marching on.
I think its important to see why his message was so downplayed historically after the fact, not just due to racism, but the rich and powerful knowing that such a strong and inspiring example of radical progress and civil rights would mean their power (and even their lives) may be forfeit But we should be inspired and proud of him
@@nickg2759 very famous labour activist of the state Utah who was falsely convicted of murder. A lot and I mean a lot of union songs were written by him.
glad that more people can learn about this legendary man who didn't just believe in God and the bible but actually did his best to model it properly by using it to defend those who couldn't defend themselves
His son's skeleton was rescued during the civil war, and eventually given a proper burial next to his father. It took 20+ years after the body was rescued due to logistics but his mother and at least one of his brothers were still alive and present to bury him.
Over the years I've come across John Brown's story several times but this is the first time I've heard it associated with Glory Glory Hallelujah. What a touching legacy.
Thank you so much for this lesson. You definitely have a new fan. John Brown’s fight for justice and peace for the people of America isn’t over. We must continue to March with him, as his souls keeps marching on.
The tune for "John Brown's body lies a-mouldering in the grave" comes from an older camp meeting hymn called "Say, Brothers, Will You Meet Us". In much the same way that the tune of the Star Spangled Banner comes from a wealthy society's drinking song.
I have been following along with this series since the beginning, and I legit wake up EVERY day looking forward to the next video you guys post. This series was absolutely fantastic, hats off to everyone who put in their efforts on these videos 🎉
Going to school in Maryland, a school field trip to Harper's Ferry was a big deal in middle school. We totally got information about John Brown's Raid on Harper's Ferry.
yeah, I really don't understand where this narrative comes from that this kind of history(the racial kind) isn't taught in schools. I think a lot of people just didn't pay attention in history class or went to evangelical/deep south schools. My school in Michigan had a whole chapter about bleeding kansas, kansas-nebraska act, and the raid on harpers ferry and how these directly precipitated the civil war.
You covered this well. It's a really hard thing to cover when people with clearly right goals commit acts of violence that aren't sanctioned by society.
Well, I knew most of this, there were some things I did not know. Thank you for sharing this. It’s very important for Americans, especially those who were never taught this. In the American south for many years, it was likely you MIGHT only hear his name and harpers ferry and not much else..
My high school chorus sings Battle Hymn of the Republic every year at the last concert. I'm pretty sure our director does not know what it's actually about (she's very Christian, so the Biblical lyrics are taken at face value). She replaced the "Let us die to make men free" with "Let us *live* to make men free," completely missing the point of the original song.
@@DungeonCreator20Well, John was quite the religious man. And the whole Jews escaping and fighting the Egyptians fit. Either way, I’m not personally religious. But it fits.
After chewing on it for a couple months ive realized something. The unwillingness to act to fix a broken system in which people suffer and die, is already as bad as influcting that evil yourself because you justify it though your none action.
I remember learning about this in High School, although we did not go into much detail we did learn that it was one of the reasons that lead to the American Civil War
I agree with Matt that I really loved this series, because I wasn't taught this in school and its definitely something that should be talked about more, because it is great context to how the Civil War started.
I know I am not a patron, if I had the money to spare i would, but the story of missouri at the beginning and just before the Civil War and even during it is fascinating.
My friends keep telling me that they can't talk to me without learning something, and that's mostly because I quote extra history a lot. Thank you to this channel for being my favourite source of historical education since I was like, three.
Kudos for telling Brown's story on this platform; it is especially relevant given current efforts to criminalize the teaching of subjects that have previously been overlooked or avoided. Mark Twain's observations about travel could just as easily be applied to previously untold history...it is "fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime."
Somewhat ironically I heard more of 'Blood Upon the Risers' rather than 'Battle Hymn of the Republic' growing up (they follow the same tune and format). But then my dad was a paratrooper for a time, so it sort of makes sense.
I also requested that. He also is sometimes under looked and occasionally treated unfairly by Southern writers by being depicted as a drunken butcher who only won due to superior numbers. It ignores all the really smart strategies Grant did throughout the war.
@@matthewdopler8997 The best thing about all that Grant the butcher crap is that he spent most of the war fighting with the 2nd or 3rd string army in peripheral theaters where the armies were usually pretty even in terms of numbers. If Grant had a numbers advantage it was because he created local superiority through skillful generalship. Sure, in the Overland Campaign, Grant had overwhelming numbers, but really only after he backed Lee into a coerner that he knew Lee wouldn't retreat from and then attrited Lee down for 8 months. Losses in the Overland Campaign were high, but it's really the only time where Grant had higher than normal losses. He typically had pretty low losses, but most importantly, his campaigns always moved the Union closer to ending the war, so in terms of men lost, if there was a ratio that could equate losses to war winning actions, Grant's ratio would be the most favorable. People also give Grant a hard time and claim he was just an idiot basically who just mindlessly attacked. He was constantly looking for, and trying new methods to make attacks more successful and lose costly. It didn't always work, but Grant was never afraid to innovate personally, or to try innovations from his subordinate officers.
@@Valhain There is a Sherman story from the Vicksburg campaign that always makes me laugh. Grant had already gone down south of Vicksburg on the west bank of the river, and Sherman was north of the city coordinating transports that were running supplies down the river under the guns of the city fortifications. On one supply run, Sherman observed a river boat take several hits and go down. He wrote in a letter to Grant about it and said he hoped that they would be blessed with good enough luck for the newspaper reporters to have all been aboard the sunken steamboat. Sherman was savage.
One of the greatest moments of the war, has got to be when US soldiers sang the song loud and proud as they marched out of the smoldering ruins of Atlanta in November 1864.
@@Illumirage Ok what's the difference with him? Cause he is the literal definition of freedom fighter. Similar to the founding of the country, except it failed.
… Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword His truth is marching on … Glory, Glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His truth is marching on … I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps His day is marching on. … Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His day is marching on … I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel "As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal" Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel Since God is marching on … Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Since God is marching on … He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! Be jubilant, my feet! Our God is marching on … Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Our God is marching on … In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free While God is marching on … Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! While God is marching on
@@TheGreaterDane I think this, "I have some moral qualm with something, therefore I am going to go around dispatching people left and right" mentality is a problem. Who defines whose opinions supercede our laws, and why them?
Well he’s gone to be a soldier in the army of the lord. He’s gone to be a soldier in the army of lord. He’s gone to be a soldier in the army of lord. But his soul is marching on.
This series was a tough one for me to watch as it triggers me to see how evil slavery was, and how many people had to lose their lives to end it. But as hard for me to watch, it was even more needed for my children to understand the ghost of slavery(Racism) still runs rampant in our country. Thank you.
"In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me. As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, While God is marching on."
Thank you for making this incredible history series on John Brown--I learned so much! It is sobering to think that this was mostly omitted from my history lessons, when it had such an impact on this country. I especially appreciate the fact that you didn't shy away from describing the violence enacted by both sides; it powerfully demonstrated your point that violence only breeds more violence.
I really loved this series cause as a north Carolinian I was never taught about John Brown's life only that he he attacked harpers ferry with no real context about it. Really loved this series good job people.
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Please do Texas revolution please extra history
Hey guys how about creating one about⚔️ William Wallace🏴 but not the Braveheart figure no!
that was amazing to learn, also gad damn dude was good at speeches
Can you guys do a video on “The Killer Angels”?
"As he died to make men Holy, let us die to make men free" has to be the hardest line in a marching song ever written
When the soviet collapse Ансамбль Александрова (Red Army Choir) sang the battle hymn of the republic. A future lost.
Patton had it right though. You don't win wars by dying for your cause. You win wars by making the OTHER SIDE'S guys die for THEIR cause.
I actually cried a little when they got to this part in the episode.
-fingerguns- Thats nice.
It is important to remember that the "He" in the song who died to make men holy is Christ.
In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea /
With a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me /
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free! /
While God is marching on
Note that many modern hymnals change the line about dying to "let us live to make men free."
John Brown's goal to start a slave rebellion failed spectacularly, but is goal to become a martyr probably succeeded to an greater extent than he could have hoped.
"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine"
An "Heroic Defeat" can lead to win wars... I guess every country has its examples of this, I'm Chilean so the one we have here is Arturo Prat (a navy captain in the 1879 war).
@@ubiergo1978 well yeah, I'm Peruvian, and pretty much every Peruvian general falls on that category
His actions pushed the South to secede, and the fact his raid took place in Virginia may have swayed the state into joining the secessionists despite voting down secession twice. Virginia joining the CSA did more to prolong the war than anything else could have. As Tennessee and North Carolina would join them. Plus they had one of the best state militias. And some of the Union's best former officers such as Robert E Lee and Thomas Jackson were from Virginia.
@@barbiquearea On the other hand, maybe a short almost uneventful war also "maybe" wouldn't led to the 13th ammendment thing you guys have and maybe wouldn't end slavery at all, maybe it would just led to another "compromise" again... So, maybe a long bloody war was, as he probably thought, the "only" way. O.O
"As he died to make men Holy, let us Die to make men free"
Easily a #1 moving line in American Music and sacramential literature.
It would later be changed to "As He died to make men Holy, let us LIVE to make men free" in some versions.
I always thought that was supposed to be a Jesus reference
@@seanmcloughlin5983 Me too
This is the first time I’ve ever heard it and it made me cry a little 😅
@@seanmcloughlin5983 it is. The line before it is “In the beauty of the lilies, Christ was born across the sea, with a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me”
“…all such foes of the human race.” -Some Virginian officer
I’d say that accurately describes all supporters of slavery.
Indeed. That's what it fundamentally comes down to, despite all the efforts of the USA to whitewash it and backtrack on the progress made. Slavers and those who support them are enemies of all humanity. It's as simple as that. The Union didn't go far enough. Not by a hundredth.
Last I checked, people were useing that kind of language to describe parents trying to protect their children from s3xual predators, and a boy in Kenosha that defended thimself from three armed men.
I’d say all of the above works 👍
@@charlesatanasioDid you limber up before that stretch?
@@harmonlanager2670 Bud, you know I'm right. Try again.
"Now if it is deemed necessary that I should forfeit my life for the furtherance of the ends of justice, and mingle my blood further with the blood of my children and with the blood of millions in this slave country whose rights are disregarded by wicked, cruel, and unjust enactments, I submit: so let it be done..."
These words should be chiseled on every government building in the United States
the Rich don't like to be reminded of their mistakes.
Orson Welles did a reading of this speech you can find on youtube. Highly recommended reading.
Unfortunately! Raising a Confederate flag in America still isn't a crime!
@@quangle-zi2oz Hate the flag and everything it stands for, but it ultimately falls under 1st amendment protection. Can't ban it no matter how tasteless it is.
@@tuvoca825 if it's your property yes.
Although it's hard to defile somthing so disgusting as a Confederate flag
(The design ain't bad just what it represents, plus the American flag looks better)
John Brown's body lies a mouldering in the grave,
*BUT HIS SOUL GOES MARCHING ON!*
Glory Glory hallelujah!
He's gone to be a soldier in the army of the Lord
But his soul goes marching on!
HE CAPTURED HARPER’S FERRY WITH HIS NINETEEN MEN SO TRUE
HE FRIGHTENED OL’ VIRGINIA TILL SHE TREMBLED THROUGH AND THROUGH
THEY HANGED HIM FOR A TRAITOR THEY THEMSELVES THE TRAITOR CREW,
BUT HIS SOUL GOES MARCHING ON!!
I was only taught some of John Brown's raid while in school and this series was my first time learning about his methods and reasons. Now that I know, I can get behind the notion that "Battle Hymn of the Republic" be made into a secondary national anthem alongside the Star Spangled Banner.
radicalized christians (see baptists i live in the bible belt) made me hate all religious songs.. seeing that that one isn't about god as it seems from the lyrics. i'm with you.. it's a song worth being sung :3
Same
They taught it to us in a perspective that made him out to be a traitor
@@larrychilders6599 They did the same to as kids,. Way to go Fulton County Georgia "educational" system!...jerks... (and they kept a tight lip about folks like Frederick Douglas and Sojourner Truth.) Sometimes I'm ashamed I come from the south.
@@GanarfGeorgie And now they want to do it again.
Fun fact: the Southern reaction to John Brown's raid was so negative that his name literally became a curse. Southerners would say things like "I couldn't get the John-Browned thing to work"!
Brown's words ring so true. So many horrible deeds in American history have gone unpunished or even rewarded because they were done for those with power and influence. His punishment will always be deeply unjust.
Trust me, America's evil doings haven't gone unpunished. They have one more judge they have to see before everything is said and done.
@@johnholman3200 solem comfort for the victims who would never get to see it...
So as one special figure says.
"Sometimes we can't expect God to do all the work"
As all great powers fall, so will America. Perhaps by the punishing hand of a higher power, or perhaps by those it has wronged.
Yeah, reminds me of the sins done against the Native Americans
Speaking of the irony of those to witness Brown's execution, to my understanding, another one of these witnesses was a somewhat-known actor named John Wilkes Booth who would actually be inspired by Brown's commitment to a cause, (not, obviously, by his dedication to the ending of slavery.)
You mean one, who shot Lincoln?
Yep, Booth was also there
@@ceu160193Yep, the one and only John Wilkes Booth was there.
Sic semper tyrannis
Can't make this stuff up, must be history.
The image of John Brown's soul watching over the men who marched into battle is so badass. God save the union.
Down with the traitors, up with the stars
The facial hair in this series is majestic! Give a raise to the animators!
The civil war truly was the golden age of epic facial hair
It’s been all down hill since
They call it "The War of Glorious Facial Hair" for a reason.
Gettysbeard
@@seanmcloughlin5983 By the seventies and eighties, the hair had moved down to the pubic region. And finally these days, there's nothing left.
🤣
They Hung him as a traitor, they themselves the Traitor Crew. His Soul goes marching on!!!
And may thy lord see thou traitors endure pain unimaginable to human kind, without honor, without peace, without love.
@@auraaetherbladesigma6939 Amen my friend, amen!
Secession isn’t treason. Lincoln was the traitor to the constitution read the 10th amendment
And the irony would forever be lost on those traitors
@@ecurewitz
Each Dixie boy must understand
That he must mind his Uncle Sam.
I genuinely believe this is the best episode done by this channel.
It has been an emotional journey for us in this series.
I wholeheartedly agree with both these statements
I attended school in rural missouri, and was taught by a history teacher who was unabashedly a fan of the lost cause myth, but credit where it's due, she did tell us about John Brown's raid, and did at least portray his motivations accurately. Of course... she neglected to mention all the terror southern states were raging in Kansas and Washington at the time... and paired it with a rant about General Sherman's march... so it was nice to be given a greater historical context for everything 🤣
Fun fact, the Kansas constitution has a provision that says the only time the state is allowed to borrow money and go into debt is if we are invaded by a neighboring state. It doesn't explicitly say Missouri but we all know that's implied.
@@roberteltze4850 fucking hillarious
Man is the definition of "losing the fight but winning the war" - his attempt at starting a rebellion and fighting against slavers with force failed horribly, and yet, he still found enough strength in him to keep fighting for the case after he survived the fight, and in that, he aided the cause more than he could've thought.
His soul goes marching on. Glory glory hallelujah.
“He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat!
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat!
Be swift, my soul, to answer Him! Be jubilant, my feet!
His truth is marching on!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on!”
“In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me.
As he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free!
While God is marching on!
Glory, Glory, Hallelujah!
Glory, Glory, Hallelujah!
Glory, Glory, Hallelujah!
His truth is marching on!”
❤❤❤🕯❤❤❤
Makes me proud both sides of my family fought for the Union. Had a 3rd great grandpa in the 1st New York Light Artillery, another was in the Iron Brigade, and another in the Bucktail Brigade.
I had family on my mom's side stationed in Kansas and two that served in the 44th New York Volunteer Infantry Regiment. I had family members on my dad's side who did so as well. So this did stir my soul as well.
Had one relative in a New York regiment (can't remember the number offhand), and another who was in the 1st US Sharpshooters. Tended both of their graves in the family plot.
My dad's side of the family fought in an Illinois brigade, and on my mom's side one fought in an Ohio one.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher the US Sharpshooters were the ultimate elite in the Union Army. You should be proud.
Fellow bucktail!
I always thought John Browns Body was set to the tune of the Battle Hymn of the Republic. The fact that it's the other way round is astounding.
There was one other person at John Brown’s hanging. John Wilkes Booth, dressed in the uniform of a Virginia Militia soldier, he watched the hanging.
True.
Sic Semper Tyrannis
@@abdurrazzaqmumin1574
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wow, what a party
everyone was there
what if Lincoln and Grant were also hiding in the crowd? LOL
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 No, Lincoln was in Springfield, Illinois and Grant was in Galena, Illinois working at his Father’s store.
Every time I hear these stories about such heroes of America’s past I can’t help but remember a line I once read a book called “Culture Warlords”
“We tend to like our noble lawbreakers to be comfortably in the past, where time and death have sanitized them into heroes, and to suffer those who struggle against injustice in the present only grudgingly, if at all.”
The reason why I think about it so much, is that it’s easy in retrospect to look upon the past, with the benefit of how it bore out and know who was in the right of history. But what heroes against injustice of the modern day are we allowing to go unsung, because in our judgment, we hold some kind of qualms against their tactics in a fight for which we may not necessarily have as much at stake.
I think more than anything that’s probably one of the most important lessons to learn from John Brown’s story.
Definitely, that's a critical point, made better than I could have.
A great point. "These *radicals* should stop protesting injustice in any way that might inconvenience people!", etc...
An ever present and very noticeable sight right now. Between racial inequality and persecution, queer people's rights being stripped, and the us-funded murder of children in Palestine it is truly dumbfounding how a vast majority of people go about their lives ignoring such pressing issues for most of their lives; myself too often included in that.
2:52 For anyone confused of why Virginia is shaped like this, this was how Virginia was shaped before West Virginia left.
Julia Howe also advocated to women’s suffrage. Battle Hymn is a fun and easy tune to play. Thanks for shedding light on this historical topic, the topic of John Brown’s raid was over within 1 minute in Georgia High school Curriculum (very brief).
I was told Julia Howe was also a possible member of the secret six, but not sure as I never got a chance to meet any of them.
Julia Howe wasn't a member of the Secret Six because she was married to one of them (Samuel Gridley Howe)
Battle Hymn of the Republic has a special place in my heart. Our national anthem is a rousing speech of bravery, but this just tugs at the strings. It's a song for the United States that was meant to be, that shining city on a hill. It's...America.
I always tear up a little when I hear the "as he died to make men holy let us die to make men free" verse
There are a lot of different verses for Battle Hymn of the Republic, but I think my favorite is
"I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal"
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel
Since God is marching on"
The ending of slavery by war and blood was a holy crusade, and I cannot be persuaded otherwise
Its if not the only Holy War, in the literal meaning, It was pure, not tainted by gold nor glory as those claimed to be "holy" war, where in reality just a plundering backed by church.
That’s actually a valid view of the war.
More holy than any of the actual crusades, certainly!
AMEN!
Interesting how both sides used religious conviction like that
This shows got me more knowledge of the US problem in early 1800s. My school here in Finland didn't cover much, well at all these times, so its great to learn about the times! Keep up the great work❤
I mean, my man, you're from Finland, you shouldn't be expected to learn much about US history, like me in south america didn't get much about US or Finland history.
Not that I'm saying it's bad, I love history and I probably would have gone to college for history if I thought there was any way to monetize that degree!
Hello, fellow Finn! This was definitely an interesting thing to learn about history.
The Battle Hymn of the Republic kicked off, in my opinion, the best time in US history in terms of marching songs.
I honestly almost wished it was our national anthem.
Star Spangled is good and all but if there's one thing I believe sums up at least the country the US wants to be seen as especially after the Civil War it would be the Battle Hymn of the Republic
@@SkyTreeStudio damn, I agree now. Violence in the name of freedom(or at least perceived freedom) does seem to be our go-to normal. We should make a petition!
@@SkyTreeStudiomy issue with Battle Hymn for an anthem is its Christian messaging. As a Christian myself, I like the lyrics, yes. However the issue stems from what the United States is in reality: a melting pot of differing faiths and cultures, limited not only to Christians or the Abrahamic faiths.
@@xavi-kun Not to mention it’s long af. Depending on how long you draw it out, the official anthem can go from 2.5-4 minutes. Battle Hymn is 4-5+
@@BullGator-kd6ge No one sings the full national anthem already.
John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave
John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave
John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave
But his soul goes marching on
Glory Glory hallelujah!
Glory Glory hallelujah!
Glory Glory hallelujah!
But his soul go marching on!
🎶
He had gone to be a soldier in the army of the lord
He had gone to be a soldier in the army of the lord
He had gone to be a soldier in the army of the lord
But his soul goes marching on!
He captured Harper’s Ferry with his nineteen men so true.
He frightened ol’ Virginia till she trembled through and through.
They hung him for a traitor, they themselves the traitor crew.
But his soul goes marching on.
This man is now my favorite person in all of American History. Maybe even history in general.
Kukk
@@Illumirage pardon?
I think its important to see why his message was so downplayed historically after the fact, not just due to racism, but the rich and powerful knowing that such a strong and inspiring example of radical progress and civil rights would mean their power (and even their lives) may be forfeit
But we should be inspired and proud of him
the moment the "rich and powerful" realize that the only thing separating you and them
is nothing but air molecules and the clothes you are wearing
123 👍
AWAY DOWN SOUTH IN THE LAND OF TRAITORS
RATTLE SNAKES AND ALLIGATORS
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RIGHT AWAY
@@firesonic23 RIGHT AWAY (RIGHT AWAY)
COME AWAY (COME AWAY)
WHERE COTTON’S KING AND MEN ARE CHATTELS
Union Boys wil win the battles
Have I ever said Brown's my man?! Because he is.
So you just kill people you disagree with? Sounds legit...
@@Illumirage Not all 'disagreements' are either moral or tolerable.
@@KrasMazovHatesYourGutscommunist democrats : "murder is okay when i say so"
@@Illumirage huh really just throwing around the "communist" and "democrats" words huh?
This is, in my unimportant opinion, the best series y’all have ever done. The way you all closed this one was beautiful, seriously. Thank you
Would love if you did a short story of Joe Hill! He is also a labour icon
UTAH REPRESENT
🎵I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night,
Alive as you or me
Says I, "But Joe, you're ten years dead,"
"I never died," says he🎵
who's joe?
@@nickg2759 very famous labour activist of the state Utah who was falsely convicted of murder. A lot and I mean a lot of union songs were written by him.
The Battle of Cable St. might be a good topic to cover in that vein, also.
glad that more people can learn about this legendary man who didn't just believe in God and the bible but actually did his best to model it properly by using it to defend those who couldn't defend themselves
Crickets...
Damn right he did,
What I have learned from these videos is that we need more John Browns.
His son's skeleton was rescued during the civil war, and eventually given a proper burial next to his father. It took 20+ years after the body was rescued due to logistics but his mother and at least one of his brothers were still alive and present to bury him.
Over the years I've come across John Brown's story several times but this is the first time I've heard it associated with Glory Glory Hallelujah. What a touching legacy.
Thank you so much for this lesson. You definitely have a new fan. John Brown’s fight for justice and peace for the people of America isn’t over. We must continue to March with him, as his souls keeps marching on.
“ as he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free” cold chills every time
And now I'm imagining that Brown's ghost was shrieking in rage when Henry Wise ripped him off in planning his own raid on Harper's Ferry.
John Brown's body lies a-rolling in his grave
@@Nolaris3 No. Just no.
This entire series made me answer hard questions about myself and I swear if I wasn’t so emotionally suppressed I would be sobbing about it…
Rest well an American martyr. A Martyr of Freedom and Equality. His soul goes marching on.... holding the star spangled banner!
And his soul marched on, guiding the Union Soldiers! Love your videos guys!
The tune for "John Brown's body lies a-mouldering in the grave" comes from an older camp meeting hymn called "Say, Brothers, Will You Meet Us".
In much the same way that the tune of the Star Spangled Banner comes from a wealthy society's drinking song.
I have been following along with this series since the beginning, and I legit wake up EVERY day looking forward to the next video you guys post. This series was absolutely fantastic, hats off to everyone who put in their efforts on these videos 🎉
Thank you! This series quickly became one of our favorites
Going to school in Maryland, a school field trip to Harper's Ferry was a big deal in middle school. We totally got information about John Brown's Raid on Harper's Ferry.
yeah, I really don't understand where this narrative comes from that this kind of history(the racial kind) isn't taught in schools. I think a lot of people just didn't pay attention in history class or went to evangelical/deep south schools. My school in Michigan had a whole chapter about bleeding kansas, kansas-nebraska act, and the raid on harpers ferry and how these directly precipitated the civil war.
6:02 John Wilkes Booth was also present for Brown’s execution
JB is a hero.
Thank you for making this series. Never heard of him here in the U.K. but agree that it should be shared widely!
You covered this well. It's a really hard thing to cover when people with clearly right goals commit acts of violence that aren't sanctioned by society.
Well, I knew most of this, there were some things I did not know. Thank you for sharing this. It’s very important for Americans, especially those who were never taught this. In the American south for many years, it was likely you MIGHT only hear his name and harpers ferry and not much else..
My high school chorus sings Battle Hymn of the Republic every year at the last concert. I'm pretty sure our director does not know what it's actually about (she's very Christian, so the Biblical lyrics are taken at face value). She replaced the "Let us die to make men free" with "Let us *live* to make men free," completely missing the point of the original song.
and apparently the bible.
I can't help but see countless parallels to the modern day in John Brown's story.
Look to the bible for parrallels.
@@unclejoeoaklandkind of a jump from “see how civil rights issues are coming up again” to start pushing revelations across the table
@@DungeonCreator20Well, John was quite the religious man. And the whole Jews escaping and fighting the Egyptians fit. Either way, I’m not personally religious. But it fits.
Thank you for this series. It sparked a conversation with my kids about slavery and the tricky issue of righteous violence.
After chewing on it for a couple months ive realized something. The unwillingness to act to fix a broken system in which people suffer and die, is already as bad as influcting that evil yourself because you justify it though your none action.
So domestic terrorism, got it
@@Illumirage quit being pathetic it's hilarious
*HIS SOUL GOES MARCHING ON*
Only extra credits will put out a normal video on April 1st, incredible.
I remember learning about this in High School, although we did not go into much detail we did learn that it was one of the reasons that lead to the American Civil War
"you would honor me if i had done this for the rich, but i did it for the poor you got mad." - based.
"On behalf of God's despised poor" what a beast
The ending honestly gave me goosebumps, this was one of the best episodes of Extra History ever.
This was by far my favourite EH series so far.
I agree with Matt that I really loved this series, because I wasn't taught this in school and its definitely something that should be talked about more, because it is great context to how the Civil War started.
I know I am not a patron, if I had the money to spare i would, but the story of missouri at the beginning and just before the Civil War and even during it is fascinating.
Today's world needs more John Browns.
I rewatch this video every now and then just to hear John Brown’s court room speech. It’s amazing, it makes me teary 🥲.
This video made me tear up. It was insanely good! :D
Same We're a mess right now
My friends keep telling me that they can't talk to me without learning something, and that's mostly because I quote extra history a lot. Thank you to this channel for being my favourite source of historical education since I was like, three.
Kudos for telling Brown's story on this platform; it is especially relevant given current efforts to criminalize the teaching of subjects that have previously been overlooked or avoided. Mark Twain's observations about travel could just as easily be applied to previously untold history...it is "fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime."
Strange to see young Lincoln without a beard. And seeing him referred as "he who should not be named" like Voldemort.
Unions rules! Confeds drool!
They hung him as a traitor, they themselves the traitor crew, his soul goes marching on!!!
USA USA USA!
@@DingusTheArtist I love how TH-cam offers to translate that to English 😂
@@Merennulli Also how it translates as one one one
@@Merennulli LMAOOO, It translate to" one one one "😭
Somewhat ironically I heard more of 'Blood Upon the Risers' rather than 'Battle Hymn of the Republic' growing up (they follow the same tune and format). But then my dad was a paratrooper for a time, so it sort of makes sense.
Now do one for General Grant, another much maligned hero of the Civil War
I also requested that. He also is sometimes under looked and occasionally treated unfairly by Southern writers by being depicted as a drunken butcher who only won due to superior numbers. It ignores all the really smart strategies Grant did throughout the war.
I want to see Sherman. Man was complex
@@matthewdopler8997 The best thing about all that Grant the butcher crap is that he spent most of the war fighting with the 2nd or 3rd string army in peripheral theaters where the armies were usually pretty even in terms of numbers. If Grant had a numbers advantage it was because he created local superiority through skillful generalship. Sure, in the Overland Campaign, Grant had overwhelming numbers, but really only after he backed Lee into a coerner that he knew Lee wouldn't retreat from and then attrited Lee down for 8 months. Losses in the Overland Campaign were high, but it's really the only time where Grant had higher than normal losses. He typically had pretty low losses, but most importantly, his campaigns always moved the Union closer to ending the war, so in terms of men lost, if there was a ratio that could equate losses to war winning actions, Grant's ratio would be the most favorable. People also give Grant a hard time and claim he was just an idiot basically who just mindlessly attacked. He was constantly looking for, and trying new methods to make attacks more successful and lose costly. It didn't always work, but Grant was never afraid to innovate personally, or to try innovations from his subordinate officers.
@@Valhain There is a Sherman story from the Vicksburg campaign that always makes me laugh. Grant had already gone down south of Vicksburg on the west bank of the river, and Sherman was north of the city coordinating transports that were running supplies down the river under the guns of the city fortifications. On one supply run, Sherman observed a river boat take several hits and go down. He wrote in a letter to Grant about it and said he hoped that they would be blessed with good enough luck for the newspaper reporters to have all been aboard the sunken steamboat. Sherman was savage.
@@nomar5spauldingSherman famously hated the press and even accused them of spying.
What a badass
Chills at the end. Great job everyone
Loving how much care you're giving Brown's story. I've thoroughly enjoyed this whole series.
No song turns on the tears for me like Battle Hymn of the Republic.
One of the greatest moments of the war, has got to be when US soldiers sang the song loud and proud as they marched out of the smoldering ruins of Atlanta in November 1864.
Hail Colombia, happy land
If we don't burn you I'll be damned
" one man action cannot change his present, but can forged it's future"
his soul is marching on to this day
In hell
@@IllumirageThis implys every single person who has ever fought for freedom is in hell. What a weird thing to say.
@@justjesse4276 no it doesn't
@@Illumirage Ok what's the difference with him? Cause he is the literal definition of freedom fighter. Similar to the founding of the country, except it failed.
@@justjesse4276 killing people for your ideological beliefs is wrong
… Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword
His truth is marching on
… Glory, Glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on
… I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps
His day is marching on.
… Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His day is marching on
… I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal"
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel
Since God is marching on
… Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Since God is marching on
… He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! Be jubilant, my feet!
Our God is marching on
… Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Our God is marching on
… In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free
While God is marching on
… Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
While God is marching on
And his soul goes marching on
In hell
why's that?@@Illumirage
@@TheGreaterDane I think this, "I have some moral qualm with something, therefore I am going to go around dispatching people left and right" mentality is a problem. Who defines whose opinions supercede our laws, and why them?
@@Illumirage Keep seething
@@johndanes2294 no I'm good.
I don't know what school you went to dude, but I learned about John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry in school growing up.
I didn’t. All we got was that he was an example of radical abolitionism and that he was hanged for taking weapons from harpers ferry.
Well he’s gone to be a soldier in the army of the lord. He’s gone to be a soldier in the army of lord. He’s gone to be a soldier in the army of lord. But his soul is marching on.
Yall should do a series on the civil war, pretty interesting time period. Love the content keep up yalls hard work!
Fooooourth watch through of this series. No clue why it keeps pulling me back but it's a well done series.
I love the battle hymn of the republic, possibly one of my favorites, but I never knew its origin. That's incredible
Funny that Im wearing my raid on Harper's fairy shirt today that I got at the Harper's fairy museum.
"He Who Must Not Be Named..." Wait, so Lincoln wasn't allowed on the ballot but Voldemort was?
lol
😆 LOL! 😆
This series was a tough one for me to watch as it triggers me to see how evil slavery was, and how many people had to lose their lives to end it. But as hard for me to watch, it was even more needed for my children to understand the ghost of slavery(Racism) still runs rampant in our country. Thank you.
Agreed , the issue of slavery is triggering for me too which is why I enjoyed this series as its not as graphic yet very educational
Slavery lives on cuz you want it to. Move on. Live your life
@sjappiyah4071 aren't you that domestic terrorist that was justifying murder earlier?
"In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me.
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,
While God is marching on."
🎶glory glory hallelujah his soul goes marching on!
...but his soul goes marching on.
In hell
@@Illumirage who else would God send to give slavers their just punishment
@@TheHopeslost Africa could sure use him right now as slavery is still going on over there....
@@TheHopeslost .... to this day in 2023....
Thank you for making this incredible history series on John Brown--I learned so much! It is sobering to think that this was mostly omitted from my history lessons, when it had such an impact on this country. I especially appreciate the fact that you didn't shy away from describing the violence enacted by both sides; it powerfully demonstrated your point that violence only breeds more violence.
I really loved this series cause as a north Carolinian I was never taught about John Brown's life only that he he attacked harpers ferry with no real context about it. Really loved this series good job people.
Funny coincidence, we just learned this in school a few weeks prior, I am in the 8th grade