I am a retired State Trooper and I worked as a security officer in the Federal Courts after that retirement for 22 years. We sat through many patent infringement trials and it was depressing to see how blatently companies, particularly in China, copy products and sell cheap imitations. Yet it costs legitimate companies tens of thousands in attorney fees to defend a patent. It's low class and underhanded, and I agree with you completely. Thanks for sticking up for the small businessman who can't always afford to defend his innovation.
So you're saying China doesn't respect patents? And yet so many American companies can't wait to run to China to have their products made. As a country we really are our own worst enemy.
@@GoodWorksTractors ...sorry man not much diff. I'm an old timer from Southside va. I remember furniture & textile factories all over. Same people the very people who worked there screamed for walmart everywhere then were shocked when it all left. Not saying right wrong just we do it to ourselves. I recently paid 18 bucks for a set of good wire dikes instead of 9, because it was made (not assembled only) in America.
How many companies can’t exist because of the Walmarts of the world? You can’t say give me the best quality product at the cheapest price; Some profit is a good thing and has to be expected if American made companies are to survive. Good on you Courtney!!
@@bones549 I think you misunderstood me. I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m saying this was not a Chinese company that did this. It was a US based company. I would not be surprised if they use a Chinese manufacturer to build it, but this isn’t shipping to the end user from China.
As a small business owner of 30 plus years I am impressed with this video. It’s unusual to see one company stand up for another company in such a public way and do so tactfully. You’ll be happy to know I recently purchased my first item from you and expect delivery this week (quick attachment). I’m new to the tractor ownership world but have been impressed by all of your vids. When shopping around for the quick attachment unit I did, of course, come across the Titan website. I guess instinctively I was turned off and ended up buying from you after seeing your video on comparing quick attachments. The level of detail in your videos is great, very helpful for a newbie tractor owner like me. Well done!!
Courtney, I appreciate you for taking a stand for Tim at big Tool Rack . Tim actually took my order over the phone 3 years and consider Tim a long distance friend . Good job with the video .
I purchased a BTR Oct 2021 and Tim showed up in my driveway about a week later and delivered it himself. He insisted we assemble it right then and we had the whole thing set up in about thirty minutes. Doing business with Courtney and Tim has been a fantastic experience, especially as a new tractor operator. I would be hard pressed to deal with anyone else simply due to their quality, value, business ethics and dedication to their customers. First class folks all around. Thank you.
I appreciate you being a one in a million individual who stands for doing things right and not being a under handed company. I applaud for your position. I enjoy you channel and the videos you share. Please keep them coming. I own a BigToolRack myself and love it. Thanks
Right on Courtney! Recently the US manufacturer Titan (different than the import house Titan that stocks Chinese and Indian lower grade product) changed their name to IronCraft to distinguish themselves. The differences in welds, paint finish, metal grades on Titan rototillers is dramatic for example (and tiller is India made). To be fair, other countries can make great quality, but labor costs have risen in the "BRIC" countries. And for compact tractor implements, the costs of transport/import mean they have to cut more corners. The result is "cheap", not "value".
Didn't know that about the switch to IronCraft. Good move as they seemed to often be confused. 100% agree about foreign manufacturing. There is plenty of high quality production world wide. Thanks for chiming in!
I literally just came here for this info. We have some Titan equipment purchased last year that is now known as Ironcraft. I would be very disappointed if we owned something made by thieves. Relieved to hear it’s not them. Here’s why: I’m literally shopping for one of these tractor tool Box solutions. Regards, Marky
Thank you for bringing this to light. I believe it shows integrity to stand for what you believe and not lowering your standards or beliefs for money. You’ll be more blessed down the road.
I ordered a BigToolRack from Tim a few years ago and it was a hideous price to get to Canada but it is what I wanted and it is everything I imagined it would be for my small farm. It rolls around the shop, I can keep all the shovels, rakes, and other garden tools organized, I haul it out to the garden in the spring for my wife to plant the garden and I use it around the farm on the tractor when I am working on projects. And I got it in red to match my Massey. Sorry, I didn't like how this read. Tim gave me a generous discount, it was the exchange rate, taxes and import duties plus the two hour trip to pick it up at the shipping yard.
Morning Courtney. I loved your channel and business before but now I respect you even more. Unbelievable. Thanks for standing up. I have no respect for Titan now and you will never see a Titan product on my channel. I thought Titan was a good North American company. Not anymore. Titan- design your own products!
wow this is sad. Thank you Courtney and GP. I own a BigToolRack from Tim. Thank you both for standing up against this hack job and supporting what is right for Tim's sake and this wonderful Tractor community.
Very nice to see someone stand up and say something. Not only is it “trashy”, but It’s disrespectful to the core. As I tell my kids all the time, there are all kinds of people in this world…
Kudos Courtney for standing up for what you believe. Knock off equipment I have found ALWAYS is inferior in quality and workmanship and 9 out of 10 times the company will not stand behind their product. It's bad that people are so lazy to think of their own ideas.
I Love my Big Tool Rack and Love your TH-cam channel and products. I recently talked to Tim and complained to Titan about their obvious and shitty behavior. All I got was added to their email list. . . Thanks, Courtney, for your support of another excellent company and product. Well done!
As a small business owner as well, I appreciate the drive to do things honestly amd support the value of the IP of others. Thank you! People from MI are the best ;)
40 years ago we built several versions of what is sold today as the big tool rack. We built them because they were useful tools for our farm and many other farmers did the same. Just look back thru 50 years of farm show magazine and see the ingenuity of farmers and what they created because it was useful to them. Many of those items are now marketed and have been refined by major manufacturers for sale to the masses, the old timers laugh and say I built that 50, 60 years ago. No complaints- I built what I see is the heavy hitch over 40 years ago and could put about 1100 # of weight on it. It was something I needed at the time... I don't envy heavy hitch for their product... I just go out and jump on my old tractors and know that mine still works for the use that it was built for ... added reciever hitch 5 years ago - before that it just had a drawbar hitch ... wagons didn't have ball hitches
Been watching the channel for awhile just don't comment much. Appreciate you calling them out ! I recently bought pallet forks from them, they appear to be well made BUT the paint was tore to hell from FedEx. I asked for touch up paint and they gave me a code to get paint and said would reimburse. Called a few places and nobody knew that code. Last thing I will buy from them for sure !
I appreciate you sharing this, I will not consider Titan anymore moving forward. I was about to pull the trigger on a pallet fork set up but will find another brand.
Glad to see this video. We smaller businessmen need to stand together to fight against the corporate evil that exists. With that being said I bought a small titan flail a couple years ago. Their salesman told me it was American made and QH compatible. When it arrived it was neither. In trying to get a response from them for their LIES, all I got was crickets.
Thanks for calling this out and using your influence to bring this to everyone's attention. I have a BTR and it is an excellent product - both in usefulness and construction. When I was a tractor virgin, I bought pallet forks from Titan. Let's just say I won't ever make that mistake again - they quality just isn't there. I have had excellent customer service from Tim at BTR and from you (Brush Crusher) and I truly appreciate you guys!
As someone who is brand new to the rural life, and someone who is also trying to make a go of small scale farming, this was a very informative video. I can’t afford to always buy the higher end attachments or equipment. However, as a proud American I can say that whenever I see low class crap like this happen, I ask myself “how long can our country afford to not buy all American made?” The answer is complicated. Since I am not a rich man playing farmer for kicks ( I’m only a fireman) I do have to be judicious on my farm purchases. I cannot stand companies ripping off stuff from others. So, thank you for the education and I can now mark Titan off the list when it comes to purchasing tractor stuff. Btw, these Big Tool Racks look awesome and will own one someday. Lol
Way to go Courtney! I love your videos and have not subscribed yet, well.......until now. I have to admit I have purchased from Titan, and frankly I got what I payed for. This shows the absolute void of integrity that Titan has as a company and will not purchase their items again. Keep up the good work!
I mean isn't this standard practice? Business owner comes up with idea, realizes the market wont support that price point. Ships manufacturing overseas, builds a small business around this and then is dumbfounded when an identical product hits the market at half their advertised price. All the more reason we need to support bringing manufacturing back in house in country.
As an engineer/inventor who has had ideas and work taken without so much as a thankyou, my best wishes on bringing lowlife companies to their just end.
I made my first purchase from Titan this week and based on my experience there will not be a second purchase. Ridiculous. Can't wait to buy from Good Works!
Thank you for bringing this issue to light. I don't believe you are overreacting as titan is basically stealing Big Tool Rack's time, effort, and money [titan did not do any of the RND].
There is a saying, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery". True, but this is theft. Not maybe but out and out theft of patented material. Good on you for your stand up straight and call it like it is attitude. If we had more people with this attitude, business would be much less stressful.
It is a big deal to me. Thank you for pointing it out. Using ideas from a product to make something for your own personal use is one thing... copying them for commercial gain is something altogether different. It is just lazy and unethical. And I don't blame you for getting hot under the collar!
I think it sucks people steal things the way they do. I think your video was very good and handled with taste. If I need what you promote, I would definitely buy from you. I have bought cheaper knock off stuff through my lifetime, and most of the time it ended up costing me in the long run. Buy quality the first time. 😉
Wowzers, that BigToolRack is cool though! Didn't even finish the video before I was pinging a good buddy of mine about how he needs one for his tractor. :D
I was just about to purchase some pallet forks from Titan. Not anymore... as a newbie, this video was eye opening. Thank you for creating this awareness.
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Funny you should talk about this. Saw lots of Chinese Engineers taking close up camera shots at Engine design on new Equipment at Con- Expo. One big Chinese Company at Con- Expo had there CAT look alike machine on Display. But boy they got all TESTY when myself just a person at the biggest Construction show in Las Vegas, just taking Pictures of ALL the neat Equipment on Display, all the NEW stuff on the market. One of there Female Booth worker's started screaming at ME!!!! ( NO PICTURES, no pictures) I just smiled at her and said, your in America Lady, I'm just attending this show, I will take all the Pictures I want too of Equipment DISPLAYED in public!!!!!!!! Lady there are NO signs saying NO Picture. But in my mind I knew exactly why she was saying it. Thank you for black listening copy cats that STEAL someone else's hard work at Design. It's great salesman like you to publicly SAY!!!!!! This is a cheap knock off, such Lazy ass for not coming up with there own Design.. Thank you again for doing this video, it must be SHOWN in public these Robbery of someone else's WORK.
Should be noted when you say “Titan” you should add attachments because there is also a Titan Implement which is American made vs Titan attachment which is Chinese. Titan implement, so far has been a great company by my standards. Never bought a product from Titan attachments as I try not to support the Chinese. This video just further solidifies my choice to not buy made in china garbage. Keep up the good work Courtney!
Great video as always!. This is a maddening thing to hear, but as you said it happens a lot. This is why i deal with gwt. Every thing you sell is the real deal not as shown here. Also add that you put all or most of the products through there paces. I have stated in other past video comments this is why i will continue to deal with gwt . Do not have to worry about things like what titan did. Will not buy from them until they get there ethical business practice back. Anyway have a great day Courtney and Chis and be safe. Tim
Obviously companies “can” take designs from others, but it rubs me the wrong way as well. I’ve been on the fence about picking up a big tool rack, but this made it easy. Ordering one this weekend. I’ll support the original. Titan won’t get my business.
I understand your reasoning for the venting. It sure seems like there would be a way other than bringing an awareness to people to stop blatant stealing of another person's idea. Unfortunately honor and fortitude is not a universally taught culture. I myself have invented items that later on have been scooped up due to my not patenting them. Yes, it's my fault for not patenting them but it still stings when you witness someone else profiting off of your ingenuity. Patenting unless you have the funds to fight the unscrupulous is just a recommended hindrance to the soulless copycats. If the price is unbelievable, guaranteed the quality is as well. No free lunches! I really appreciate you and your brothers content.
I’ll take another approach to this. They video said numerous modification meaning it’s not the same thing. I’ve seen farmers and homesteaders build similar stuff. I have no problem with more than one blacksmith in town. I really don’t understand that two places can’t manufacture equipment that may overlap in most of the function, letting quality and cost being the distinguished difference. It’s kind of hypocritical to promote/ sell summit tractors if you think that only only the first company should exist. Many people would never be able to get tools if harbor freight didn’t exist. Should we all be stuck paying for snap on? Competing companies is not a bad thing for anyone, including those forced to improve products.
There’s a big difference in OEMs that make vehicles, planes, tractors and such. Incredibly complex machinery. I have no problem with competition and said so. However, I could probably sketch up 50 different designs - different sizes, functions, features, etc. so many ways to make a carry all. You have to look really close to see if it’s the Big Tool Rack or not. Why not make an original of their own?
I would argue this is the kind of IP we should be protecting; rather than giving Disney near-unlimited copyright or the NFL non-profit status. I don't always agree with your business calls (who does) but I've always agreed with the rationale behind them. Respect to you, Courtney.
R2 is in my backyard and those guys are first rate for sure. Sad to see anyone out there trying to capitalize on other peoples time and effort engineering quality products. I applaud your decision to throw Titans business practice back in their face.
Thanks for shining a light on this flagrant patent violation. Hopefully, the folks at BTR can go after them in court, but the best revenge would be for no one to buy these knockoffs and have them end up on a slow boat back to China.
That is the same Titan company I bought a pine needle rake from this spring, they did a horrible job packing and shipping. Its safe to say anybody buying there other products will received scratched up product also.
Personally, I respect people who stick to their core values. If you wouldn't do something underhanded, why would you support someone who did in order to benefit yourself? I think that is an example of the character traits missing these days. People still think they have good moral values, but if we evaluate our daily decisions do they align with how we perceive ourselves? I have chosen not to purchase products or do business with many companies in recent years because their values don't align with mine in key areas. Has it inconvenienced me and caused me certain sacrifices? Yes, but I didnt compromise my personal integrity. Which is much more valuable to me. I respect your decision to stand behind your values and will support you for it.
If it's not completely patented, it's fair game. Not saying that Titan copying it is cool, but it is what it is. If you're going to put a unique product in the market, you have to do whatever you can to protect it. I've bought several attachments from Titan that are of excellent quality and I'd buy from them again if they have the best product at the best price.
Best diy counter balance I have seen there be 2 one was concrete build a form and 3 point support placed inside and filled with cement other same consent hustle used 55 gallon drum cut down and filled with cement works great for orchard use loading bins of fruit fluid filled tires and concrete filled counter balance Others used 3 point hitch forks and carry bins front and back and use rear bin as counter balance while loading stacked bins of fruit
Besides the sleazy business practice of stealing (let's call it what it is) there is the basic principal of acquisition my dad taught me many, many years ago which I have always found to be true: you get what you pay for. And quality is usually less expensive in the long run, not to mention you have a better item to work with and/or enjoy.
Thank you Courtney! It’s very sad I truly don’t know how these folks sleep at night this is just wrong!!! We worked very hard to come up with the Bigtoolrack with years of product development then to get a company that does this is just so wrong. They are stealing from my family! We want nothing to do with them! I can only hope people see what kind of company they are….
I see in one of your ads that the BTR is "proudly made in USA". Does this mean "assembled in USA of global components" or is the steel actually fabricated in the USA?
@@LisaMedeiros-tr2lz Hello Lisa we are a global manufacturer that builds and sell’s BigToolRacks all over the world just like the major tractor brands. That said we have a plant in the USA that builds our Ultimate Rack and many other items we sell with American Steel and American workers 100% from start to finish. We also build our Ultimate Racks and some other products at our plan in India. Both are state of the art facilities that build top quality products and that is most import to us, we will not put our name on anything that is not the best quality. We are an American Family run business that treats our customers the way we would want to be treated, we have morals and values and respect for each others intellectual property unlike some others. That said we can sleep at night knowing we are doing the right thing. I started this company from nothing ten years ago and we have grown it to what it is today. I would not have it any other way. Thank you for your inquiry I hope I answered your question. Feel free to contact me on my website. Tim Owner and Founder Morris CT.
I would like to say some things that others have already said but, I don’t want to be a copy cat… 😮 Well said Courtney! A company I worked for has to deal with china knock-offs all the time. They even went to DC for hearings on patent infringement. Of course govt is all talk and little to no action against china.
Well, I'll admit, I bought a set of pallet forks from Titan. Price was good, they were on sale. I can say, that will be the only thing I own from them, their not even that great on prices anymore! In the market for a flail mower, and for what you get for the money, what they offer doesn't have much value. I mean, if you want cheap Chinese, you're better off buying from Betsco! You get the a very similar product, for 1000-1500 less. Just my opinion!
Its a damn shame. I am a big fan of Big Tool Rack I remember when they started I thought it was an awesome idea. Now their being ripped off for being smart.
Courtney I don’t think you’re overreacting at all. I completely understand redesigning a existing design/product to make it your own or better. But to copy everything almost exactly is very low class (to say the least).
How about sell a ballast hardware kit that customer uses with locality sourced 55 gallon drum. Filled with product of choice. Dirt, sand, grave,l cement.
I bought one thing from Titan Attachments and it failed and they basically said that's to bad. Have a friend that has a small paint store and has a sign over the checkout counter and it says ONLY THE RICH CAN AFFORD CHEAP!!!!
💥 I’ve seen EA do this same thing with different products. Good ideas are copied and patents eventually expire or aren’t honored as they should be. Just unfortunate. *Keep on tractoring!*
Would you mind providing examples? My impression is EA does their own R&D, continue to evaluate existing products and make improvements, and stand behind their products. They pay a competitive wage for top skilled craftsmen. Very satisfied with the Wicked 55 grapple. At some level, some things just are what they are, like a pallet forks frame. My understanding is the forks are standardized re mounting sizes and spacing, and it must be made to fit the jdqa or the ssqa, so the places to differentiate include metal thickness, quality of welds, how accurately it's made to the defined specs, total weight of the unit, and secondary functionality like a receiver hitch, hay spears, and alternate attachments like Artillian makes.
@@clintbowen1305 simple, look at every single thing they sell that ISN'T something standard like a set of forks or a bucket. They are always examples of some other company having had the idea first. The most blatant is the wicked tooth bar, BXpanded came up with the design and EA straight up copied it with a couple of changes that don't amount to squat. Even the way their website is put together screams out every single thing they make is a copy. I was actually a prospective customer of a tooth bar when it became obvious scrolling through each page. BX should sue EA completely out of existence, it's just a slimy way of doing business.
I LOVE my Ultimate BIGTOOLRACK! Tim was awesome to work with and it's one of the best purchases I made for my tractor. It definitely stinks that Titan is doing this and capitalizing on all of his hard work. Maybe you should get one and destroy it like the Vevor video you did. LOL On that note, I noticed that Vevor is using your video as marketing for their pallet fork person holder thing. Shake my head. Some of these companies are just shameless.
Big Tool Rack’s patent’s claims all seem to require having that hitch receiver on the back (which you pointed out near the end of the video). Titan Attachment’s product doesn’t appear to have a receiver there so they not only (probably) avoid the patent, but save some steel since they don’t need to have a beefy structure to safely tow a trailer. I don’t mean to play devil’s advocate here. It certainly looks like a clone with at least one less feature.
I am a retired State Trooper and I worked as a security officer in the Federal Courts after that retirement for 22 years. We sat through many patent infringement trials and it was depressing to see how blatently companies, particularly in China, copy products and sell cheap imitations. Yet it costs legitimate companies tens of thousands in attorney fees to defend a patent. It's low class and underhanded, and I agree with you completely. Thanks for sticking up for the small businessman who can't always afford to defend his innovation.
And our government stands with big businesses and China to make junk in China! It’s sad
China is not a friend of America. They specialize in steeling technology and then profit from it.
Well said, we need more Americans to understand this while shopping, thanks for sharing!
Yeah we cut ties with them as well. It’s pretty ridiculous. Tim is a stand up guy and has indeed built a great business.
So you're saying China doesn't respect patents? And yet so many American companies can't wait to run to China to have their products made. As a country we really are our own worst enemy.
yep same folks that cry about that go to harbour freight and buy cheap knockoffs.
This company uses China for mfg, but is stateside.
@@GoodWorksTractors ...sorry man not much diff. I'm an old timer from Southside va. I remember furniture & textile factories all over. Same people the very people who worked there screamed for walmart everywhere then were shocked when it all left. Not saying right wrong just we do it to ourselves. I recently paid 18 bucks for a set of good wire dikes instead of 9, because it was made (not assembled only) in America.
How many companies can’t exist because of the Walmarts of the world? You can’t say give me the best quality product at the cheapest price; Some profit is a good thing and has to be expected if American made companies are to survive. Good on you Courtney!!
@@bones549 I think you misunderstood me. I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m saying this was not a Chinese company that did this. It was a US based company. I would not be surprised if they use a Chinese manufacturer to build it, but this isn’t shipping to the end user from China.
I respect you for taking a stand against knock-off artists, counterfeits, and plagiarists. Kudos!
Thanks Joe!
As a small business owner of 30 plus years I am impressed with this video. It’s unusual to see one company stand up for another company in such a public way and do so tactfully.
You’ll be happy to know I recently purchased my first item from you and expect delivery this week (quick attachment). I’m new to the tractor ownership world but have been impressed by all of your vids. When shopping around for the quick attachment unit I did, of course, come across the Titan website. I guess instinctively I was turned off and ended up buying from you after seeing your video on comparing quick attachments. The level of detail in your videos is great, very helpful for a newbie tractor owner like me.
Well done!!
You have no idea how much respect you just garnered! There are so few people today who really walk the walk - you do! Thank you.
Courtney, I appreciate you for taking a stand for Tim at big Tool Rack . Tim actually took my order over the phone 3 years and consider Tim a long distance friend . Good job with the video .
I purchased a BTR Oct 2021 and Tim showed up in my driveway about a week later and delivered it himself. He insisted we assemble it right then and we had the whole thing set up in about thirty minutes. Doing business with Courtney and Tim has been a fantastic experience, especially as a new tractor operator. I would be hard pressed to deal with anyone else simply due to their quality, value, business ethics and dedication to their customers. First class folks all around. Thank you.
Things that have got to be said. You said it. You used restraint. No cussing. No name calling. Good restraint, Courtney. Love you brother.
I appreciate you being a one in a million individual who stands for doing things right and not being a under handed company. I applaud for your position. I enjoy you channel and the videos you share. Please keep them coming.
I own a BigToolRack myself and love it.
Thanks
It’s unfortunate that this happens all the time but you did a good job bringing this particular item to light.
Thanks for watching!
Good for you for speaking up on this issue!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Right on Courtney! Recently the US manufacturer Titan (different than the import house Titan that stocks Chinese and Indian lower grade product) changed their name to IronCraft to distinguish themselves. The differences in welds, paint finish, metal grades on Titan rototillers is dramatic for example (and tiller is India made). To be fair, other countries can make great quality, but labor costs have risen in the "BRIC" countries. And for compact tractor implements, the costs of transport/import mean they have to cut more corners. The result is "cheap", not "value".
Didn't know that about the switch to IronCraft. Good move as they seemed to often be confused. 100% agree about foreign manufacturing. There is plenty of high quality production world wide. Thanks for chiming in!
I literally just came here for this info. We have some Titan equipment purchased last year that is now known as Ironcraft.
I would be very disappointed if we owned something made by thieves.
Relieved to hear it’s not them. Here’s why: I’m literally shopping for one of these tractor tool
Box solutions.
Regards,
Marky
Thank you for bringing this to light. I believe it shows integrity to stand for what you believe and not lowering your standards or beliefs for money. You’ll be more blessed down the road.
I ordered a BigToolRack from Tim a few years ago and it was a hideous price to get to Canada but it is what I wanted and it is everything I imagined it would be for my small farm. It rolls around the shop, I can keep all the shovels, rakes, and other garden tools organized, I haul it out to the garden in the spring for my wife to plant the garden and I use it around the farm on the tractor when I am working on projects. And I got it in red to match my Massey. Sorry, I didn't like how this read. Tim gave me a generous discount, it was the exchange rate, taxes and import duties plus the two hour trip to pick it up at the shipping yard.
Looks like a rip-off, pure and simple. You're doing the right thing. Thanks for letting us know!
Morning Courtney. I loved your channel and business before but now I respect you even more. Unbelievable. Thanks for standing up. I have no respect for Titan now and you will never see a Titan product on my channel. I thought Titan was a good North American company. Not anymore. Titan- design your own products!
Thanks Gord. Caught your message to Ross's 1000 Subs video, cracked me up!
@@GoodWorksTractors Yes. That was a great video. Well thought out and executed!
wow this is sad. Thank you Courtney and GP. I own a BigToolRack from Tim. Thank you both for standing up against this hack job and supporting what is right for Tim's sake and this wonderful Tractor community.
I totally agree - Tim has done an amazing job. It’s shameful when other companies do this type of stuff. I will not buy anything from Titan.
Good for you for sticking up for Big tool rack, they are the best and so are you for speaking out. Done with Titan!
Very nice to see someone stand up and say something. Not only is it “trashy”, but It’s disrespectful to the core. As I tell my kids all the time, there are all kinds of people in this world…
Thank you for sticking up for small business.
Kudos Courtney for standing up for what you believe. Knock off equipment I have found ALWAYS is inferior in quality and workmanship and 9 out of 10 times the company will not stand behind their product. It's bad that people are so lazy to think of their own ideas.
Appreciate you taking a stand against bad business practices.
Thanks for watching Mike!
Great video when you have a reputation of honesty you have to stand up for what you think is right! Good job. Honesty’s the best policy.
Great video, and I am glad you are calling them out! I really enjoy your videos, and you always have really great information!
I Love my Big Tool Rack and Love your TH-cam channel and products. I recently talked to Tim and complained to Titan about their obvious and shitty behavior. All I got was added to their email list. . . Thanks, Courtney, for your support of another excellent company and product. Well done!
Thanks David, take care!
As a small business owner as well, I appreciate the drive to do things honestly amd support the value of the IP of others. Thank you! People from MI are the best ;)
40 years ago we built several versions of what is sold today as the big tool rack. We built them because they were useful tools for our farm and many other farmers did the same. Just look back thru 50 years of farm show magazine and see the ingenuity of farmers and what they created because it was useful to them. Many of those items are now marketed and have been refined by major manufacturers for sale to the masses, the old timers laugh and say I built that 50, 60 years ago. No complaints-
I built what I see is the heavy hitch over 40 years ago and could put about 1100 # of weight on it. It was something I needed at the time... I don't envy heavy hitch for their product... I just go out and jump on my old tractors and know that mine still works for the use that it was built for ... added reciever hitch 5 years ago - before that it just had a drawbar hitch ... wagons didn't have ball hitches
Thanks for living your ethics. I've always told my kids, " If you dont have the courage to speak up when you see a srong
Nice to see someone with a back bone and stand with another small business owner. Courtney, you're a good guy who just gained more respect from me!
Been watching the channel for awhile just don't comment much. Appreciate you calling them out ! I recently bought pallet forks from them, they appear to be well made BUT the paint was tore to hell from FedEx. I asked for touch up paint and they gave me a code to get paint and said would reimburse. Called a few places and nobody knew that code. Last thing I will buy from them for sure !
I appreciate you sharing this, I will not consider Titan anymore moving forward. I was about to pull the trigger on a pallet fork set up but will find another brand.
Glad to see this video. We smaller businessmen need to stand together to fight against the corporate evil that exists. With that being said I bought a small titan flail a couple years ago. Their salesman told me it was American made and QH compatible. When it arrived it was neither. In trying to get a response from them for their LIES, all I got was crickets.
Thanks for calling them out! The right thing to do.
Thanks for calling this out and using your influence to bring this to everyone's attention. I have a BTR and it is an excellent product - both in usefulness and construction. When I was a tractor virgin, I bought pallet forks from Titan. Let's just say I won't ever make that mistake again - they quality just isn't there. I have had excellent customer service from Tim at BTR and from you (Brush Crusher) and I truly appreciate you guys!
Nice job young man. Enjoying the channel. Tks for sharing.
As someone who is brand new to the rural life, and someone who is also trying to make a go of small scale farming, this was a very informative video. I can’t afford to always buy the higher end attachments or equipment. However, as a proud American I can say that whenever I see low class crap like this happen, I ask myself “how long can our country afford to not buy all American made?” The answer is complicated. Since I am not a rich man playing farmer for kicks ( I’m only a fireman) I do have to be judicious on my farm purchases. I cannot stand companies ripping off stuff from others. So, thank you for the education and I can now mark Titan off the list when it comes to purchasing tractor stuff. Btw, these Big Tool Racks look awesome and will own one someday. Lol
Way to go Courtney! I love your videos and have not subscribed yet, well.......until now. I have to admit I have purchased from Titan, and frankly I got what I payed for. This shows the absolute void of integrity that Titan has as a company and will not purchase their items again. Keep up the good work!
I mean isn't this standard practice? Business owner comes up with idea, realizes the market wont support that price point. Ships manufacturing overseas, builds a small business around this and then is dumbfounded when an identical product hits the market at half their advertised price. All the more reason we need to support bringing manufacturing back in house in country.
As an engineer/inventor who has had ideas and work taken without so much as a thankyou, my best wishes on bringing lowlife companies to their just end.
I made my first purchase from Titan this week and based on my experience there will not be a second purchase. Ridiculous. Can't wait to buy from Good Works!
Courtney, having moral principles and sticking to them is seldom an overreaction. Great video!
Courtney that rubs me the wrong way too. I’m glad you called them out on it. I try every chance I get to buy American 🇺🇸.
Good for you!
Thank you for bringing this issue to light. I don't believe you are overreacting as titan is basically stealing Big Tool Rack's time, effort, and money [titan did not do any of the RND].
If I was to buy one it would still be BTR. You get what you pay for and I’m sure everything from purchase to warranty is so much better from them.
once again sir well done . thank you forsharing . all the best
There is a saying, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery". True, but this is theft. Not maybe but out and out theft of patented material. Good on you for your stand up straight and call it like it is attitude. If we had more people with this attitude, business would be much less stressful.
It is a big deal to me. Thank you for pointing it out. Using ideas from a product to make something for your own personal use is one thing... copying them for commercial gain is something altogether different. It is just lazy and unethical. And I don't blame you for getting hot under the collar!
I think it sucks people steal things the way they do. I think your video was very good and handled with taste. If I need what you promote, I would definitely buy from you. I have bought cheaper knock off stuff through my lifetime, and most of the time it ended up costing me in the long run. Buy quality the first time. 😉
Love this video Courtney. Big Tool Rack is on our list to order soon by the way.
Totally agree with you! I despise hacks and cheats and distance myself from them in every way. Thank you for being honorable!
Wowzers, that BigToolRack is cool though! Didn't even finish the video before I was pinging a good buddy of mine about how he needs one for his tractor. :D
I was just about to purchase some pallet forks from Titan. Not anymore... as a newbie, this video was eye opening. Thank you for creating this awareness.
Glad it was helpful!
I would have done the same thing as you and drop them! Keep doing what you do!!
You just gained another customer. Titan will never get my business.
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Funny you should talk about this. Saw lots of Chinese Engineers taking close up camera shots at Engine design on new Equipment at Con- Expo. One big Chinese Company at Con- Expo had there CAT look alike machine on Display. But boy they got all TESTY when myself just a person at the biggest Construction show in Las Vegas, just taking Pictures of ALL the neat Equipment on Display, all the NEW stuff on the market. One of there Female Booth worker's started screaming at ME!!!! ( NO PICTURES, no pictures) I just smiled at her and said, your in America Lady, I'm just attending this show, I will take all the Pictures I want too of Equipment DISPLAYED in public!!!!!!!! Lady there are NO signs saying NO Picture. But in my mind I knew exactly why she was saying it. Thank you for black listening copy cats that STEAL someone else's hard work at Design. It's great salesman like you to publicly SAY!!!!!! This is a cheap knock off, such Lazy ass for not coming up with there own Design.. Thank you again for doing this video, it must be SHOWN in public these Robbery of someone else's WORK.
Great video. You're a class act.
You are over the target, I have saying these things for a couple years. 👍😎🇺🇸
It’s a big deal! I have three Titan implements and your right they always have some issue with something. Like not three point hitch compatible
Thank you for the heads up, I will never buy anything from Titan from here on out, when I'm ready I'll buy from Big Tool Rack
Should be noted when you say “Titan” you should add attachments because there is also a Titan Implement which is American made vs Titan attachment which is Chinese. Titan implement, so far has been a great company by my standards. Never bought a product from Titan attachments as I try not to support the Chinese. This video just further solidifies my choice to not buy made in china garbage. Keep up the good work Courtney!
Great video as always!. This is a maddening thing to hear, but as you said it happens a lot. This is why i deal with gwt. Every thing you sell is the real deal not as shown here. Also add that you put all or most of the products through there paces. I have stated in other past video comments this is why i will continue to deal with gwt . Do not have to worry about things like what titan did. Will not buy from them until they get there ethical business practice back. Anyway have a great day Courtney and Chis and be safe. Tim
Obviously companies “can” take designs from others, but it rubs me the wrong way as well. I’ve been on the fence about picking up a big tool rack, but this made it easy. Ordering one this weekend. I’ll support the original. Titan won’t get my business.
Thank you!
Thanks for the info.
We own a restaurant in a small town. We welcome any new restaurants and help promote them. It works better for everyone.
I understand your reasoning for the venting. It sure seems like there would be a way other than bringing an awareness to people to stop blatant stealing of another person's idea. Unfortunately honor and fortitude is not a universally taught culture. I myself have invented items that later on have been scooped up due to my not patenting them. Yes, it's my fault for not patenting them but it still stings when you witness someone else profiting off of your ingenuity. Patenting unless you have the funds to fight the unscrupulous is just a recommended hindrance to the soulless copycats. If the price is unbelievable, guaranteed the quality is as well. No free lunches! I really appreciate you and your brothers content.
I’ll take another approach to this. They video said numerous modification meaning it’s not the same thing. I’ve seen farmers and homesteaders build similar stuff.
I have no problem with more than one blacksmith in town. I really don’t understand that two places can’t manufacture equipment that may overlap in most of the function, letting quality and cost being the distinguished difference.
It’s kind of hypocritical to promote/ sell summit tractors if you think that only only the first company should exist.
Many people would never be able to get tools if harbor freight didn’t exist. Should we all be stuck paying for snap on?
Competing companies is not a bad thing for anyone, including those forced to improve products.
There’s a big difference in OEMs that make vehicles, planes, tractors and such. Incredibly complex machinery.
I have no problem with competition and said so. However, I could probably sketch up 50 different designs - different sizes, functions, features, etc. so many ways to make a carry all. You have to look really close to see if it’s the Big Tool Rack or not. Why not make an original of their own?
@@GoodWorksTractors valid point. I didn't realize they were exactly the same size, same holes, etc.. I'll have to check that out.
I would argue this is the kind of IP we should be protecting; rather than giving Disney near-unlimited copyright or the NFL non-profit status. I don't always agree with your business calls (who does) but I've always agreed with the rationale behind them. Respect to you, Courtney.
Good on you Courtney, titans business practices are shameful for sure, they copied us many years ago so I know how Tim/BTR feels.
R2 is in my backyard and those guys are first rate for sure. Sad to see anyone out there trying to capitalize on other peoples time and effort engineering quality products. I applaud your decision to throw Titans business practice back in their face.
Have a good one David!
The R2 guys are great! Thank you for your support!
Thanks for shining a light on this flagrant patent violation. Hopefully, the folks at BTR can go after them in court, but the best revenge would be for no one to buy these knockoffs and have them end up on a slow boat back to China.
Thanx. No Titan products for me. Ever.
I think you’re right on track Courtney they’re figuring out a way of taking one or two more percent off of what you get that’s Obvious
That is the same Titan company I bought a pine needle rake from this spring, they did a horrible job packing and shipping. Its safe to say anybody buying there other products will received scratched up product also.
Personally, I respect people who stick to their core values. If you wouldn't do something underhanded, why would you support someone who did in order to benefit yourself? I think that is an example of the character traits missing these days. People still think they have good moral values, but if we evaluate our daily decisions do they align with how we perceive ourselves? I have chosen not to purchase products or do business with many companies in recent years because their values don't align with mine in key areas. Has it inconvenienced me and caused me certain sacrifices? Yes, but I didnt compromise my personal integrity. Which is much more valuable to me. I respect your decision to stand behind your values and will support you for it.
Thank you Jeff, I appreciate it!
If it's not completely patented, it's fair game. Not saying that Titan copying it is cool, but it is what it is. If you're going to put a unique product in the market, you have to do whatever you can to protect it. I've bought several attachments from Titan that are of excellent quality and I'd buy from them again if they have the best product at the best price.
Stay with your beliefs about rip off companies good on you
Best diy counter balance I have seen there be 2 one was concrete build a form and 3 point support placed inside and filled with cement other same consent hustle used 55 gallon drum cut down and filled with cement works great for orchard use loading bins of fruit fluid filled tires and concrete filled counter balance
Others used 3 point hitch forks and carry bins front and back and use rear bin as counter balance while loading stacked bins of fruit
That big tool rack is seriously 2000. So many good diy videos for something like that. Carry all and some wood and pvc pipe. And ingenuity.
Besides the sleazy business practice of stealing (let's call it what it is) there is the basic principal of acquisition my dad taught me many, many years ago which I have always found to be true: you get what you pay for. And quality is usually less expensive in the long run, not to mention you have a better item to work with and/or enjoy.
Well said...except for Ford trucks and Diamond C trailers 😂
Thank you Courtney! It’s very sad I truly don’t know how these folks sleep at night this is just wrong!!! We worked very hard to come up with the Bigtoolrack with years of product development then to get a company that does this is just so wrong. They are stealing from my family! We want nothing to do with them! I can only hope people see what kind of company they are….
Hopefully you can at least get a cease and desist. Your patent is clearly being violated!
Keep up the good work Tim. You're building a business to be proud of.
Tim, your product is amazing Sir. I'm sorry to hear about this hack knockoff. Thank you Courtney for sticking up for this wonderful tractor community.
I see in one of your ads that the BTR is "proudly made in USA". Does this mean "assembled in USA of global components" or is the steel actually fabricated in the USA?
@@LisaMedeiros-tr2lz Hello Lisa we are a global manufacturer that builds and sell’s BigToolRacks all over the world just like the major tractor brands. That said we have a plant in the USA that builds our Ultimate Rack and many other items we sell with American Steel and American workers 100% from start to finish. We also build our Ultimate Racks and some other products at our plan in India. Both are state of the art facilities that build top quality products and that is most import to us, we will not put our name on anything that is not the best quality. We are an American Family run business that treats our customers the way we would want to be treated, we have morals and values and respect for each others intellectual property unlike some others. That said we can sleep at night knowing we are doing the right thing. I started this company from nothing ten years ago and we have grown it to what it is today. I would not have it any other way. Thank you for your inquiry I hope I answered your question. Feel free to contact me on my website. Tim Owner and Founder Morris CT.
I think this is a HUGE deal. So glad you are completely removing them.
Thanks for that information.
more people should stand up and "vent"
I would like to say some things that others have already said but, I don’t want to be a copy cat… 😮
Well said Courtney! A company I worked for has to deal with china knock-offs all the time. They even went to DC for hearings on patent infringement. Of course govt is all talk and little to no action against china.
Thank you....spot on....👍👍👍👨🌾🚜👨🌾😍
Thanks for watching!
Well, I'll admit, I bought a set of pallet forks from Titan. Price was good, they were on sale. I can say, that will be the only thing I own from them, their not even that great on prices anymore! In the market for a flail mower, and for what you get for the money, what they offer doesn't have much value. I mean, if you want cheap Chinese, you're better off buying from Betsco! You get the a very similar product, for 1000-1500 less. Just my opinion!
Haha, good stuff Sean
Its a damn shame. I am a big fan of Big Tool Rack I remember when they started I thought it was an awesome idea. Now their being ripped off for being smart.
Good call. Chuck Norris approved.....lol Integrity is everything.
Courtney I don’t think you’re overreacting at all. I completely understand redesigning a existing design/product to make it your own or better. But to copy everything almost exactly is very low class (to say the least).
Companies have always done that. It's unfortunate but true. Where it's manufactured doesn't matter.
Agreed
How about sell a ballast hardware kit that customer uses with locality sourced 55 gallon drum. Filled with product of choice. Dirt, sand, grave,l cement.
I bought one thing from Titan Attachments and it failed and they basically said that's to bad.
Have a friend that has a small paint store and has a sign over the checkout counter and it says
ONLY THE RICH CAN AFFORD CHEAP!!!!
💥 I’ve seen EA do this same thing with different products. Good ideas are copied and patents eventually expire or aren’t honored as they should be. Just unfortunate.
*Keep on tractoring!*
They are just as blatant as the Chinese when it comes to stealing ideas, I don't think EA has ever come up with their own idea.
Would you mind providing examples? My impression is EA does their own R&D, continue to evaluate existing products and make improvements, and stand behind their products. They pay a competitive wage for top skilled craftsmen. Very satisfied with the Wicked 55 grapple.
At some level, some things just are what they are, like a pallet forks frame. My understanding is the forks are standardized re mounting sizes and spacing, and it must be made to fit the jdqa or the ssqa, so the places to differentiate include metal thickness, quality of welds, how accurately it's made to the defined specs, total weight of the unit, and secondary functionality like a receiver hitch, hay spears, and alternate attachments like Artillian makes.
@@clintbowen1305 simple, look at every single thing they sell that ISN'T something standard like a set of forks or a bucket. They are always examples of some other company having had the idea first. The most blatant is the wicked tooth bar, BXpanded came up with the design and EA straight up copied it with a couple of changes that don't amount to squat. Even the way their website is put together screams out every single thing they make is a copy. I was actually a prospective customer of a tooth bar when it became obvious scrolling through each page. BX should sue EA completely out of existence, it's just a slimy way of doing business.
I LOVE my Ultimate BIGTOOLRACK! Tim was awesome to work with and it's one of the best purchases I made for my tractor. It definitely stinks that Titan is doing this and capitalizing on all of his hard work. Maybe you should get one and destroy it like the Vevor video you did. LOL On that note, I noticed that Vevor is using your video as marketing for their pallet fork person holder thing. Shake my head. Some of these companies are just shameless.
Very well stated... TiteEnd just showed their true colors and looks ugly to me.
You get what you pay for. Quality cost more period. If you fight with what ever you buy it makes the $ savings not worth a darn.
It's everything around you, not just toolracks.
Big Tool Rack’s patent’s claims all seem to require having that hitch receiver on the back (which you pointed out near the end of the video). Titan Attachment’s product doesn’t appear to have a receiver there so they not only (probably) avoid the patent, but save some steel since they don’t need to have a beefy structure to safely tow a trailer. I don’t mean to play devil’s advocate here. It certainly looks like a clone with at least one less feature.