Color and Meaning

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
  • This video is about the exhibit Turquoise, Water, Sky at the Museum of Indian Arts and Culture in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

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  • @Jamart2662
    @Jamart2662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Why did she keep saying they're not very pretty? The pieces ARE beautiful because of the meaning and effort they were made for and from.

    • @mikeg8276
      @mikeg8276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I _think_ what she means is that turquoise pieces made for young Native children aren't as _ornate_ or _finely_ _crafted_ because they are more utilitarian than decorative in nature. But I agree, it wasn't my favorite choice of words.

    • @ColonelClusterFunk
      @ColonelClusterFunk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Artifact curation 101: Always make sure to insult the craftsmanship of every item in a collection

    • @latenightcake5881
      @latenightcake5881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because they aren't as well made as modern jewelery. Visually they are not as attractive and id even say gaudy. Grow up

    • @donnah574
      @donnah574 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@latenightcake5881 Taste is subjective and respect should be key. I think you’re looking in a mirror kitten.

  • @ppinchera8225
    @ppinchera8225 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this was so well done, can't believe there are no comments ?!

  • @guadalupmoreno8563
    @guadalupmoreno8563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    hey man we still here we are not history so stop talking like we're extinct

  • @PeterPeli
    @PeterPeli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Amazing how little you know about the story & spiritual meaning of the color & stone.
    This lady is WRONG.

    • @999Melinda
      @999Melinda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So please tell us, if you know better... cause I would like very much to know....

    • @bellechase1467
      @bellechase1467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those blue tile trade beads are very old

    • @barbaraolson600
      @barbaraolson600 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, after living in New Mexico for years this lady knows a little not a lot. It is a responsibility and honor to care for the stone and the earth that created the stone.So much more than the limited meaning presented.

  • @midnightchannel111
    @midnightchannel111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Turquoise honors the Second World, when we /the Dineh come from, and silver stands for the Fourth world where we go next. It has nothing to do with the "beautiful sky".

    • @ms.marvelous7019
      @ms.marvelous7019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Perhaps a Native should have presented the correct information, thanks for sharing 🙏🏽

  • @bobbilynnfrederick8843
    @bobbilynnfrederick8843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There is probably a reason why it was made that way. I think it would be better to have an person from Dineh explain this. Hearing it directly from the source is more meaningful. Navajo nation has plenty of artists/jewelers. As much as I appreciate how the items are being handled with care, I must say that non-native people, care-taker or not, should not be calling our Indigenous people's old artwork as 'not pretty.' Just because it may have been made in a way that is not aesthetically pleasing to one person's eyes, does not make it any less beautiful to the rest of the world. As an artist myself, I would not want someone talking about my artwork in that way, especially if there was a reason for it being created in a certain way.

    • @sparkyin3d
      @sparkyin3d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said! I’d far rather hear the explanation from a First Nation Elder.

  • @melanie.l6282
    @melanie.l6282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think she is very respectful towards all the items
    She is just saying that even the ones who have plastic they still had great value for those who made them because of the blue color for them it was valuable
    The last in spiny oyster decorated and mounted on silver is so beautiful
    To resume she tries
    to explain the question we ask ourselves when buying turquoise is it real?
    But for the people who made them the most important was the blue or the green I think she explains very well

    • @ronpflugrath2712
      @ronpflugrath2712 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some imitations are nearly impossible to tell ,Cherokee Roger showed me 20 yrs ago.

    • @melanie.l6282
      @melanie.l6282 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronpflugrath2712 i know that is a big problem bc paying big money for turquoise doesnt guaranty its real Bc even China copy fake turquoise who look so real So sad bc turqoise is a sacred stone to all Natives no matter their nation😏

  • @rubberbiscuit99
    @rubberbiscuit99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To people who want to learn about indigenous people in the Americas, this channel is top notch: Navajo Traditional Teachings.

  • @m.pixley8413
    @m.pixley8413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Regarding the comments below against this presenter stating that the "pieces aren't pretty" ; I believe she just means that they are deliberately less artful because the designs have meanings other than just trying to look superficially "pretty".

    • @bellechase1467
      @bellechase1467 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those blue tile beads are valuable. No longer made and they are old. This woman SUCKS. Shes not very pretty her damn self...

    • @m.pixley8413
      @m.pixley8413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bellechase1467 I believe that she portrays a reverential attitude towards the subject. I dont get any vibes except reverence. That you would lash out and attack how she looks just because you disagree with her presentation shows that you are both very childish and conceited.

    • @angel5423
      @angel5423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree haha

  • @jessunicornz5388
    @jessunicornz5388 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Lovely informative and clear ,great jewellery .

  • @kallalentz6676
    @kallalentz6676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These videos are very much appreciated I am grateful for the historical references and cultural meanings, I am not a native person I just love the knowledge that isn't part of the education system in our country today. This is a permanent record its wonderful.

  • @Toci333
    @Toci333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    To the owner of this channel. Respect that we are not Indians. We are Native American! The name of this channel should reflect this Truth.

    • @Dominothespotcat
      @Dominothespotcat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The museum of Indian Arts and Culture was opened by and named by indigenous people. The museum is run with a full board of native American curators. It's staff is majority native. All the pieces in the exhibit "Turquoise, Water, Sky" were donated for display by various tribal members. The owners of this channel are the museum, and that's the name they chose to call themselves.

    • @Hello_Poetry-
      @Hello_Poetry- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Y’all just state your tribe or nation then. Lord have mercy. Don’t know how to even talk to folks anymore. You could look at my mom and know she was Cherokee (native American/Indian-whichever doesn’t offend you) but I look like my dad so you’ll never realize I have it in my veins too. People just want to be grumpy. I guess everyone should drink more coke. Maybe that would help.🤯

  • @nativenike2096
    @nativenike2096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ugh she should do her research first before talking about the items ... she got it all wrong

  • @malorie8557
    @malorie8557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How did they get the turquoise to inlay ontop of the shell?

  • @bernadettefern
    @bernadettefern 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magical and superstitious thinking does not make wishful thinking true and honest. Physics, anatomy and physiology are not ruled by wishes, hopes and emotions. Regardless of what we BELIEVE, it still IS WHAT IT IS. Art can be beautiful and expressive; but symbols and images do not change the realities of nutrition, cleansing and repair. This is BIOLOGY; and elements do not do the same thing through metabolism and preventing introduction of internal or external toxins.

  • @melissaknod7129
    @melissaknod7129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't like the apologies of these pieces not being pretty, I think they are all beautiful ❤️ How are you gonna teach culture without true appreciation for it?! Teacher gets an F...

    • @999Melinda
      @999Melinda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not everything has to look aesthetically appreciated - I believe she mean the importance of the jewelry is the power that lies within it self. It is for healing purposes not for the ego to show off....

  • @angelamolnarpemberton5145
    @angelamolnarpemberton5145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful pieces. Well beautifully explained as well. Miigwech sister. 🙏😊🥰🙏

  • @ericschmuecker348
    @ericschmuecker348 ปีที่แล้ว

    My people call it turquoise.

  • @marilynmarilyn2755
    @marilynmarilyn2755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought Indians were from India...

    • @kingjsolomon
      @kingjsolomon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s become like a cuss word to me now, I correct people all the time.

  • @pamelaban15
    @pamelaban15 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful jewellery, those brown shells on the necklace are traditional shell money in Papua new Guinea. We still use them today.

  • @Honey-jw6hb
    @Honey-jw6hb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @RikthDcruze
    @RikthDcruze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    *Stop calling them Indians* ... It was a horrible misunderstanding by a horrible person who did horrible things to the natives.... There's nothing non horrible about calling them Indians. For good god's sake!!!

    • @Dominothespotcat
      @Dominothespotcat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The museum was opened by and named by native Americans, their curator board is 100% native American. This is their choice.

  • @lindacensi2750
    @lindacensi2750 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Molto interessante ! Didn t know turchese was considered protective

  • @999Melinda
    @999Melinda 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much...

  • @medicineheartds9631
    @medicineheartds9631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe that all the pieces are beautiful. This lady has no appreciation for hand made. She makes it very clear that her eye only sees beauty in very refined work. Her information is not very good either. Seems she missed her true calling and is in the wrong job.

  • @xx-nr6lu
    @xx-nr6lu 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Cochiti or Haiti"?..

  • @knightyknight5399
    @knightyknight5399 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    beautiful items ...thx

  • @sweetbre5383
    @sweetbre5383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All those pieces are beautiful! Stop implying they are ugly.

  • @rubyjames3105
    @rubyjames3105 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i enjoyed this but i would have liked it better if a navajo was telling it

    • @mitchnunya6249
      @mitchnunya6249 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why?

    • @chaitea4701
      @chaitea4701 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree !!

    • @Toci333
      @Toci333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree

    • @Toci333
      @Toci333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mitchnunya6249 obviously you want to hear it from it's originators

    • @Meg-yd9zo
      @Meg-yd9zo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Love your neighbor as yourself"

  • @Eequalsmc2-rpm
    @Eequalsmc2-rpm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video is highly informative and the host is well spoken too. I have several authentic Native American pieces of jewelry and 1 genuine turquoise sterling silver bracelet like the second 5 stone one in this video which I bought over 30 years ago. How much is the bracelet worth today?

  • @angel5423
    @angel5423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Informative video but what a harsh nerd lol - ALL those pieces are beautiful. But I think she meant they arent the prettiest haha.

  • @Ihopeitsshittyattheblackdog
    @Ihopeitsshittyattheblackdog 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every aspect of a full and happy life❤beautiful