How do Chinese natives learn Mandarin?

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  • @Кукусик-е2э
    @Кукусик-е2э 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    😂When I look at Vietnamese writing, it looks like they just left their Pinyin for writing and live happy with that.

  • @ThatsPety
    @ThatsPety 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Great video man. Good to hear from someone who actually learned there

  • @cmaven4762
    @cmaven4762 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for sharing your experience with us. Your description of the early learning of vocabulary and writing seems like it would work well for people use lots of listening practice as they're learning basic Mandarin.

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. And I mentioned it in the video. It's not applied to everyone. But if you can find something helpful for you, that will be the best.

  • @darla-dua
    @darla-dua 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    谢谢你

  • @lukecarey613
    @lukecarey613 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you I would love to learn Mandarin. I am Australian and it is overwhelming but so interesting. ☀️

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would love to help. If you have any questions or you need my help learning, you can contact me through the email in the description:)

  • @kafjaf6387
    @kafjaf6387 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ok scratch that last question - I asked too soon 🤣 I will follow the link that you have left😊

  • @ruvimccallaham6425
    @ruvimccallaham6425 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your video

  • @frechjo
    @frechjo 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chinese has no case declensions, no verb conjugations, no grammatical gender, plural forms, not even articles. Its basic grammar is pretty simple.
    That doesn't mean that it has no complex stuff at all, it does.
    Grammar stuff in Chinese is mostly about giving things the proper order, using the right connections, knowing how to use a lot of different patterns (like 又...又...), how to use the particles like 了, 把.
    But yeah, I'd say it's not the hardest part of the language.

  • @adindahutabarat_sinolog
    @adindahutabarat_sinolog 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:03
    说 : 曰

  • @bassdayesammydass-rice9430
    @bassdayesammydass-rice9430 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    谢谢 老师 我 希望 说 中文 比较 你 说 音乐 。
    Thank you teacher for this vedio, it made me feel better about learning mandarin, I've been learning on my own for the last couple years and for me writing is the most difficult to understand, saying that I wish I can speak mandarin as well as you speak english..thank you again..can you tell me if I wrote the above sentence correctly?

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you want to say “I wish I can speak mandarin as well as you speak English” then the correct sentence would be: 我希望我说中文能和你说英语一样好。

  • @AthanasiosJapan
    @AthanasiosJapan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you very much for this video. I would like to ask you two questions.
    1. Judging from the photograph in 10:50, when you study Classic Chinese, you study them with modern Mandarin Pronunciation. Do you also study Classical Chinese pronunciation?
    2. Do you study the Three Character Classic (三字经)? It seems that it is a very popular book for kids, I would like to learn a few things about it.

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      1. No, we do not, but there will be some characters that pronounce differently.
      2. I learned about the Three Character Classic at primary school but it’s more like reading material. But we put a lot effort into The Analects (论语)

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The Three Character Classic is popular because it’s a “classic ”, most of the time parents will buy one for kid to memorize it (I can only memorize the first 36 characters 😂).

    • @AthanasiosJapan
      @AthanasiosJapan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@JM_Shen
      The Analects is one of the most influential Chinese book. Do Chinese students complain about having to study it?
      I am from a country that has long history (Greece) and I know many Greek students who don't want to study ancient Greek, because they think it is useless.
      Personally, I adore Classical literature, and I want to read as many ancient books as possible. Today, I bought 孙子兵法. I have read it in English, but I also want to give it a try in Chinese.

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AthanasiosJapan haha the dislikes of ancient literature seem to be universal among students. But I think it’s mostly because of the exams and tasks we have to take, making them less fun and more stressful. Some of them are really beautiful to read.

    • @AthanasiosJapan
      @AthanasiosJapan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JM_Shen
      Any subject that is tested and requires homework is usually hated by students. But I think that ancient languages are hated even more, because many students think that they are useless.
      I don't know about the situation in China, but in Greece many students are against learning ancient Greek, claiming that they don't need to learn it. They prefer something more useful like programming or engineering. Are there similar debates in China?

  • @ahmadhassan8245
    @ahmadhassan8245 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I subscribe your channel ۔ thanks from Pakistan

  • @kafjaf6387
    @kafjaf6387 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there any particular dictionary that you would recommend?

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have another video on how to use a Chinese dictionary, just use that one will be fine

  • @unidentifieduser5346
    @unidentifieduser5346 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello, do you have any idea for which book or source i can use to learn the origin of chinese language, for example i want to learn anything similar with 心 which is heart and if i mix with another word, that would mean something regarded with emotion.

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you mean by "origin" ? How characters change from time to time? or you want to know the characters with the same mean or same radicals?

    • @unidentifieduser5346
      @unidentifieduser5346 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JM_Shen sorry for the confusion about the 'origin', I shouldn't use that word. You're right, is there any book/ source that sums up all /most character with same meaning or radical? Thank you for replying

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@unidentifieduser5346 In Chinese dictionaries, there is a specific method for searching by radicals, where characters sharing the same radical are listed together.
      If you're looking to delve deeper into research, you can explore "Shuowen Jiezi" (an ancient dictionary). For modern options, there are many choices, but a lot of them are like instructional tools.

  • @andreikoto4810
    @andreikoto4810 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Takes 2 to 10 hours to learn all the syllabals in Korean after that you just learn words and phrases but takes 2 to 10 years to learn most of the characters (read/write) in mandarin depending on the intensity of learning. Makes you wonder why not just use pinyin with tones. Such a waste of time, you can get a full time profession in the time you learn character writing.

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Your idea was actually discussed in the early 20th century, using phonetic letters instead of Chinese characters, but this idea was rejected due to factors such as cultural inheritance, etc. Although it seems simpler to switch to phonetic letters, there are too many homophones in Chinese characters. In fact, one can even write a short passage using completely homophonous words with the same tones, relying solely on the shape of the characters for comprehension. If it were phonetic letters, one would never understand the meaning.

    • @andreikoto4810
      @andreikoto4810 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JM_Shen I heard this arguement before and I wonder when you hear such a passage do you understand it? Of course. Different tones and positioning in the sentence, the context, give a lot information. If you can hear it and understand it, you can perfectly use pinyin for it.

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@andreikoto4810 In some situations, it's necessary to see specific Chinese characters, but it's not very common in everyday life.

    • @jessonswang725
      @jessonswang725 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Learn how to write doesn't waste time, these characters are only five kinds of strokes, even less than the alphabet, and a character itself is a single-syllable-word, most of time is spend on articles and poetries, learning characters is just incidental.

    • @ChristinaP-p3s
      @ChristinaP-p3s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pinyin with tones is absolutely confusing, because Chinese is based on syllables, not what I'd call "words". If we have so much trouble with same-sounding words in other languages, imagine what would happen in Chinese.
      Pinyin is good only for people who want to speak Chinese, not read or listen to it beyond a basic level.

  • @ugrachandiholistic2509
    @ugrachandiholistic2509 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No sound quality

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      got it

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      @JM_Shen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

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      @JM_Shen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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