Thanks for explaining this so clearly. It explains why the QD-OLED looks so much better in the reds. Looked up RTings measurements and its 84 cd/m² in the C1 vs 195 cd/m² on the S95b. I am not unhappy with the C1 though, playing Persona 5 at the moment. Admittly its SDR but it looks amazing with the whole interface being red and black 90% of the time.
I just set it and forget it. Native White balance RGB all at 192 in the ADJ service menu. Haven’t had any issues since February 2022 and looks great on my CX.
What do you mean 192. Service menu white balance warm, then switch all values to 192? Do I switch all values to 192 for cool and medium also, what does this do?
If I wanted oversaturated colors I would have went out and bought Samjunk, I mean Samsung because they are the kings of oversaturation when it comes to color's. You want a reference quality tv then the C1 is right up your alley and you want to make it even better then get it Pro Calibrated. Great video Plasma Tv as always.
Lol. Yeah, when I "fix" the red on my LG C2, the picture looks horrible. I'll just keep it how it was. Not sure why anyone would want the red to clip at the same level as the rest of the colors, just to mess up the entire picture. Did the same on the Hisense too.
you can reduce the luminances of the rgbcym to raise where the colors clip too, didn't seem to have much of an effect on the overall saturation of the colors either. When i first got the cx i did it using a calibration video on youtube but ended up finding out the video wasn't displaying correctly anyway. I forgot about it until seeing this video, going to see how it looks using these proper color clipping patterns. Thanks for all the work and research you've put into this, i used to use dtm on for most games because hardly anything has proper hgig, but now with the secret menu and checking the cll with screenshots, dtm off is so much better, its like making your own hgig
It shouldn't that was an issue on older LG panels, but not on the c1. Go to your color management, choose custom and then choose the red color. Then the tint option allows you to make it closer to the primary. So you'd make that number larger. So it'll just effect your reds
@Paul Cox Older panels you say? Interesting. I had to have a panel replacement so it's possible that they exchanged my C1 panel for an older panel. Idk but thank you for the advice sir.
I have the C1, a colorimeter and Calman home for LG, for 120 nits in SDR my OLED pixel brightness was set to 47...for your TV, what value did you choose for a complete dark room?
What should you set the Mastering Peak/CLL to in general? Can you just leave it at 10000 to account for all scenarios or does it have to be adjusted with every program/game. Does it affect SDR as well or just HDR. I use my C1 as a PC Monitor with little gaming.
Just affects HDR and you can leave it at 10000 but if the content MaxCLL is below the TV won't output it maximum peak brightness unless MaxCLL is 10000
I don't remember, I'd need to test it again but the problem I see is that with Native when you reduce the clipping of red to the same point as bt2020 the rest of the colors look less saturated than with the HDR Auto (default to bt2020)
After months of researching and messing with settings for color clipping, and white/black clipping.. I think I found the perfect setting.. at first took time to get used to the difference from what we were used to... But playing a game for an hour then going back to what we are used to, you'll hate the old way of playing. This is for ps5 on an LG 42 OLED, First of, idk but everyone says don't mismatch rgb levels but I did, and I'll explain why.. when both set on automatic and causes blacks to be near crush, so therefore put ps5 on limited, and tv on full.. you'll instantly see everything get washed out but black gets lifted. Don't worry.. we'll fix that. Now.. put black level on 47.. and set "tone mapping to on" .. hgig causes white clipping.. trust me.. Now put color down to 20 or 25 max lol.. yes you read that right, 20 to 25... You'll see how terrible it looks.. make sure color gamut is on native. Now the magic to make everything beautiful... On game optimizer screen, put picture as sports then black level at 7 and white level should be on 6. Now try a few games and see for yourself.. you might have to tweak it a little because not all displays are the same. After an hour playing.. you'll notice a huge difference once you get used to it.. Playing on Apex, your aim is better since there is no color clipping and over saturation that causes color bloom that makes it harder to see when shooting (gun flare) Let me know what you think..
Btw, having rgb levels the same caused white clipping while making everything really dark.. I tested this out on a clipping test.. and color on 20 also on a test.. everything has been tested. Y'all shouldn't have clipping at all from color, black and white.. soon as you change a setting.. you'll mess it up.. including switching to hgig which causes white clipping.. Took a year to figure this out.. so hope y'all like it and happy new years
Oh, I'm really sorry I forgot to mention, when setting ps5 HDR, you must have rgb settings both on automatic and tv black level at 50, and use hgig. This is only for calibration then after doing that.. then go use my settings.. never calibrate without hgig or you'll have very bad results
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Yes test it! You were on right track.. but lowering color and using sports is huge . While using tone mapping and everything else I mentioned.. blacks are not washed out and neither is color, everything looks natural.. and best thing out of all of it.. you see every single detail meant to be seen.. nothing is clipped. I replaying all my games over again.. and let me.. man... It's absolutely beautiful. Just got to get used to it for an hour.. I promise when you go back to your old setting.. you'll hate your old setting. Please let me know what you think.. I've done months of testing to find this out
DTM reduces color saturation on WRGB OLEDs because it pushes the brightness. If you want to see all the color saturation, use SDR with peak brightness OFF and Native color gamut
Thanks for the links but when I download the colour test pattern and play it it doesn't trigger HDR on my LG C1. I am casting it from PC to TV, does it need to be played direct on TV to trigger HDR?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Ok, I see. I have an OLED laptop so don't use the TV for PC stuff. Ideally I was looking for HDR test patterns videos that I could put on a USB so I could use it to calibrate different inputs but they are not easy to find. Thanks anyway and cool channel you have there!
Crazy. I was literally just messing around with this all night before I even watched this video. I downloaded all the calibration files and I've been messing with settings on my hisense. I'm still trying to fix the red clipping and the black crush.
@@brunogm Yeah I fixed the red. But then the overall picture looks horrible. I just put it back to how it was out of the box. I'm sure a professional calibrator knows what to do, so I'll stick with what looks good to me for now.
Have you tried to watch a HDR movie using BFI + w11 HDR slider 100% + secret menu using 540nits? When I open I movie with VLC or Windows Media Player classic, it destroys my black+white+color saturation config. VLC gives a test pattern result different than Media Player classic too. I dont think I could adjust the white balance 22 points by myself. I tried windows media player (not classic) and it seems that it respect it, but I think is not HDR, looks desaturated or washed out, compared to VLC. Could you give a try? I would be thankful.
I don't see any issues with VCL, I haven't tried the others, but I'm not sure that they support HDR without you paying Microsoft for a code pack, which I'm not going to do.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 No way. You do not see any issues? I opened 700-10Knits-MaxCLL-10000-MDL-10000 on the browser (brave and chrome) and I can see almost all colors flashing close to 10000 on both. I open VLC and is totally wrong. (I tried KODI and same result as VLC) Even if I decrease color to 37, I still cant see half of red/blue/white. Blacks are not same either. On the LG C1. On my Samsung G7 monitor happens something similar. All good on chrome, but on VLC the red is gone. Of course I am not going to pay for the windows addon.
I'm using VCL in this video. You can see how the clipping points change depending on the Tone Mapping target I set on the HDMI signaling override menu with Mastering Peak Maxcll. I don't understand why you see a difference, but I'll explore that. Thanks for letting me know
That's a good question, Software BFI is definitely possible, I know of some retro emulators that have it, I don't know if Reshade has it, I haven't seen it
The color saturation isn't a strength of WRGB OLEDs, especially on HDR. The white subpixel desarurares the colors, and increasing the color saturation beyond default will start clipping the color red a lot. Try the vivid mode settings I recommend for SDR
My TV actually makes the image shown on the TV in this video look great. As for max saturation that's still somewhat accurate feeling, I'd say it's probably around 55 or so for most high-end TV's (regardless of panel type). Might be able to push it a little bit higher depending on TV and exact settings. Also, you are completely wrong about blue light. That's a complete lie, just marketing bull. There is absolutely 0 scientific evidence the the amount of blue light that comes from screens (phones, TV's, etc) have any detrimental effect on your health. The amount that comes from displays simply doesn't come close to being able to cause any harm. Reducing blue light in screens or using a blue light filter is pointless and just makes the image look awful.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 i havent bought a sony tv, but i am planning to buy it because i have a samsung Q60b and man its so dissapointing with just 50hz
I lowered the brightness for the camera to show the HDR color clipping, I'm still trying to figure out the best recording settings, thanks for the feedback
No, it's not better than HDR10. Learn how to fix the HDR10 broken games and use that instead th-cam.com/video/P-eq1jedgIs/w-d-xo.html For non HDR supported games on PC this trick is better than HLG th-cam.com/video/NBQnZbXTjVc/w-d-xo.html
On HDR the TV is already in rec2020, changing to it isn't going to make any difference. On SDR forcing bt2020 is wrong because the SDR color space is rec709. You can still use Native color gamut on SDR instead if you want the eye candy
Sony's master series TV are actually very accurate out of the box, for most part (though not perfectly accurate). Still, I tried settings that others considered accurate for my TV for themselves (after professional calibration) and although the optimal settings are of course slightly different depending on the exact TV unit and environment... I can't say I liked it all that much. I just went back to factory settings and then tweaked myself for an image that I felt was accurate (it probably isn't, but to me it feels the best).
Is there an email to contact you ? I love your content but it's a little confusing to me I need help and don't really trust any tv shops in my area I love my C1 and your picture looks amazing
"PlasmaTV" did you try these settings th-cam.com/video/d-h1SigwQDA/w-d-xo.html He does 3 color gamut fineTune, then for your panel you just need a White balance.
Eso oscure por que si baja brillo maximo y sube brillo alas midas crea colores santurado bien ser supone sea 80 pero no hay ninguna gamma perfectar de color ser supone sea 80 de color pero todavia ninguna compañia a logrado ese nivel de color si pasase los que yo digo todavia no a logrado santuracion completa y lindas eso de 80 fue que yo medi pero no queda bien porque tiene toda las compañia medir todo gamma mejor,los que esta trastado de consegui las compañia ser vea bien con temperatura super fria.los dificil es que color tambien dar brillo es bueno y malo LOL eso jejeee es un rompe capeza.HDR ES BUENISIMO PERO ESTA QUE ARREGLE LAS POSICION DE LAS LUZ BLANCA QUE ES LOS UNICO Y LOS MAS DIFICIL,el rojo es por las sombra es asi otra cosa que las compañia tiene que analisas
You just answered 3 different questions I've had about the C1/C2 in one video. I don't know how you come up with the time to do these deep dive comparisons for us, but I really appreciate it! If I had more time, I'd do some of this for my own personal use, but I've been really busy, so thank you again! A question I've seen come up for the C2 (which may be similar with the C1 since they use the same panels in a lot of cases) is using the 'Native' color gamut option on PC in SDR instead of 'Auto' to get potentially more accurate color from Windows without using a custom color profile/colorimetry settings (using the PC input label of course). Do you have any thoughts on this or direct comparison information at all? This is something I've been really curious about, and you talking about the 'Native' vs 'Auto' for HDR reminded me of it. www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/xfxdsr/collecting_thoughts_on_auto_vs_native_gamut_on_lg/ www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/wp2l9x/lg_c2_game_mode_color_gamut/ Here are a couple of links to threads discussing this, I hope I don't get flagged. If so, I apologize.
Using Native color gamut over SDR is incorrect and inaccurate because the SDR color space is rec709 and Auto clamps the color gamut correctly to rec709. Native color gamut is DCI P3 and it will definitely look overly saturated but if you like it now go for it. At the beginning I was loving Native coming from a Plasma TV that doesn't clamp the color gamut on SDR and goes beyond rec709 but I no longer like it. It's like studying music, there's a point where you need More sophisticated Classical music or Jazz and popular music no longer works
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 What you say reflects what one of the commenters was saying. That 'Native' color gamut was ~99% vs 'Auto' ~93%, but saturation was well over 100% using Native. I've played with both a bit, and while Native does improve the gamut, I find it over saturated, personally. I'd like to have a more accurate image with my C2 on PC, looks like I'd probably have to calibrate, and I don't want to, haha! I'm looking forward to your next video discussing your thoughts on calibration. Thanks for your response!
@@hardlytech9072 Native does "oversaturate" the colors, on HDR games, you should not put it in Native, keep it to Auto, or change it to Dynamic. For SDR games though, firstly don't run SDR games in HDR using the Auto HDR function, it washes out the colors really bad. For SDR games change the temp to 25, and the depth to 50. For HDR you want to use W40 or 0. I say 0 if you have problems with your eyes like astigmatism. HDR is much better looking than SDR, for some reason, SDR is too bright, not from a pixel brightness, but more so from the blacks. I ended up having to increase my screen brights to 65 in SDR, to get a better overall image. The one thing to look out for with Auto is if the colors on a sports team are not accurate, then you need to switch to Native. Many TVs have issues with the bright yellow of the LA Lakers court in NBA2k. If you have it on Auto, it doesn't look like it would normally look like if you were sitting at the game, you have to then put it into native. You can also use Adobe settings if you know how to calibrate your set for that with Adobe RGB, but unless you're a graphic designer I wouldn't mess with that.
Bro it def change the clipping when u are increasing and lowering screen brightness. The higter u go u dont see it the lower u go, you can see it. Between 350 and 500. The red of the tv reacts the same as a red flashlight or a rgb led light. U can barely see true it. Every thing is blurry, maybe cuz your eyes cant monitor it. As a example build a rgb led light under your gaming desk, and turn on the red light. It is very destracting for your eyes. All objects in the room are blurry effect. Blue is also distracting for your eyes. Yellow purple pink white green etc doesnt have this effect so much on the eyes. Red light and blue light are really hard to perceive the objects etc around u in a room.
Why is it that blue and red neon lighting is difficult to see clearly in the dark? Other colors of neon lighting are clearly visible at night without any problems. It only works if I squeeze my eyes very hard. The source of the difficulties is that light of different colors is refracted or deflected to different degrees by lenses, such as the lens in your eye. Blue light and red, especially violet light are deflected more strongly than the other colours.
All good. Thank you for sharing and your time spent testing to make our screens look great.
My pleasure!
Thanks for explaining this so clearly. It explains why the QD-OLED looks so much better in the reds. Looked up RTings measurements and its 84 cd/m² in the C1 vs 195 cd/m² on the S95b. I am not unhappy with the C1 though, playing Persona 5 at the moment. Admittly its SDR but it looks amazing with the whole interface being red and black 90% of the time.
Yes QDOLEDs have a wider color gamut
I don't care much about brightness because I play in a complete dark room, for 120 nits in SDR, 47 OLED pixel brightness was enough for me
Thank you for those clipping pattern links, they are extremely helpful!
I just set it and forget it. Native White balance RGB all at 192 in the ADJ service menu. Haven’t had any issues since February 2022 and looks great on my CX.
Yeah 192 is max brightness for each color. I be watching them cailbrators and they won't even set them all to 192 then cailbrate it
What do you mean 192. Service menu white balance warm, then switch all values to 192? Do I switch all values to 192 for cool and medium also, what does this do?
If I wanted oversaturated colors I would have went out and bought Samjunk, I mean Samsung because they are the kings of oversaturation when it comes to color's. You want a reference quality tv then the C1 is right up your alley and you want to make it even better then get it Pro Calibrated. Great video Plasma Tv as always.
Lol. Yeah, when I "fix" the red on my LG C2, the picture looks horrible. I'll just keep it how it was. Not sure why anyone would want the red to clip at the same level as the rest of the colors, just to mess up the entire picture.
Did the same on the Hisense too.
Yeah, it's just a limitation of the TV, nothing is ideal
I have my color depth at 75 and it’s looks amazing 😀
Enjoy it
you can reduce the luminances of the rgbcym to raise where the colors clip too, didn't seem to have much of an effect on the overall saturation of the colors either. When i first got the cx i did it using a calibration video on youtube but ended up finding out the video wasn't displaying correctly anyway. I forgot about it until seeing this video, going to see how it looks using these proper color clipping patterns. Thanks for all the work and research you've put into this, i used to use dtm on for most games because hardly anything has proper hgig, but now with the secret menu and checking the cll with screenshots, dtm off is so much better, its like making your own hgig
I'm glad to hear that, thanks 👍
You doing great job thank you so much
WOleds only really struggle with colours in HDR.
"Master Level Calibrator" 🤣🤣 ..Thank you! Oh and BTW the color red looks blood orange on my LG C1
Mine isn't very red either, my plasma TV red might get more saturated, but I'm not sure
lol qtv
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 plasma red is lovely
It shouldn't that was an issue on older LG panels, but not on the c1. Go to your color management, choose custom and then choose the red color. Then the tint option allows you to make it closer to the primary. So you'd make that number larger. So it'll just effect your reds
@Paul Cox Older panels you say? Interesting. I had to have a panel replacement so it's possible that they exchanged my C1 panel for an older panel. Idk but thank you for the advice sir.
Great video!
I have the C1, a colorimeter and Calman home for LG, for 120 nits in SDR my OLED pixel brightness was set to 47...for your TV, what value did you choose for a complete dark room?
The brighter the better, 100% all the time
Ariel why when i put color saturation pattern on browser , lg c2 it doesn’t output the test pattern in Hdr it is outputting on sdr
Try Microsoft Edge
Would this configuration work well on a LCD LgUP7500 4K?
Surprisingly all LG TVs seem to have the same settings
Give it a try
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thank you my friend, it look awesome now 😀
What should you set the Mastering Peak/CLL to in general? Can you just leave it at 10000 to account for all scenarios or does it have to be adjusted with every program/game. Does it affect SDR as well or just HDR.
I use my C1 as a PC Monitor with little gaming.
Just affects HDR and you can leave it at 10000 but if the content MaxCLL is below the TV won't output it maximum peak brightness unless MaxCLL is 10000
What saturation setting would you find equivalent if you are using "native" gamut
I don't remember, I'd need to test it again but the problem I see is that with Native when you reduce the clipping of red to the same point as bt2020 the rest of the colors look less saturated than with the HDR Auto (default to bt2020)
After months of researching and messing with settings for color clipping, and white/black clipping..
I think I found the perfect setting.. at first took time to get used to the difference from what we were used to... But playing a game for an hour then going back to what we are used to, you'll hate the old way of playing.
This is for ps5 on an LG 42 OLED,
First of, idk but everyone says don't mismatch rgb levels but I did, and I'll explain why.. when both set on automatic and causes blacks to be near crush, so therefore put ps5 on limited, and tv on full.. you'll instantly see everything get washed out but black gets lifted. Don't worry.. we'll fix that.
Now.. put black level on 47.. and set "tone mapping to on" .. hgig causes white clipping.. trust me..
Now put color down to 20 or 25 max lol.. yes you read that right, 20 to 25... You'll see how terrible it looks.. make sure color gamut is on native.
Now the magic to make everything beautiful... On game optimizer screen, put picture as sports then black level at 7 and white level should be on 6.
Now try a few games and see for yourself.. you might have to tweak it a little because not all displays are the same.
After an hour playing.. you'll notice a huge difference once you get used to it..
Playing on Apex, your aim is better since there is no color clipping and over saturation that causes color bloom that makes it harder to see when shooting (gun flare)
Let me know what you think..
Btw, having rgb levels the same caused white clipping while making everything really dark.. I tested this out on a clipping test.. and color on 20 also on a test.. everything has been tested.
Y'all shouldn't have clipping at all from color, black and white.. soon as you change a setting.. you'll mess it up.. including switching to hgig which causes white clipping..
Took a year to figure this out.. so hope y'all like it and happy new years
Oh, I'm really sorry I forgot to mention, when setting ps5 HDR, you must have rgb settings both on automatic and tv black level at 50, and use hgig.
This is only for calibration then after doing that.. then go use my settings.. never calibrate without hgig or you'll have very bad results
I haven't had time to read your comment to give you a good answer. I'll do it when I have a chance. I am currently out with my family
@@plasmatvforgaming9648
Yes test it!
You were on right track.. but lowering color and using sports is huge . While using tone mapping and everything else I mentioned.. blacks are not washed out and neither is color, everything looks natural.. and best thing out of all of it.. you see every single detail meant to be seen.. nothing is clipped.
I replaying all my games over again.. and let me.. man... It's absolutely beautiful.
Just got to get used to it for an hour.. I promise when you go back to your old setting.. you'll hate your old setting.
Please let me know what you think.. I've done months of testing to find this out
Hi Plasma , how can i get more colour saturation similar to Samsung tvs . Specifically on HDR using calibrated DTM .
DTM reduces color saturation on WRGB OLEDs because it pushes the brightness. If you want to see all the color saturation, use SDR with peak brightness OFF and Native color gamut
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 but if i want to use Dtm because of bright room how can i increase?
Thanks for the links but when I download the colour test pattern and play it it doesn't trigger HDR on my LG C1. I am casting it from PC to TV, does it need to be played direct on TV to trigger HDR?
That's the player, I use VLC media player and it works from the PC
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Ok, I see. I have an OLED laptop so don't use the TV for PC stuff. Ideally I was looking for HDR test patterns videos that I could put on a USB so I could use it to calibrate different inputs but they are not easy to find. Thanks anyway and cool channel you have there!
You can’t hold the menu button and go directly to settings from everywhere on the C1?
Yes
Love your videos !
So glad to hear that!
if HDR color value is 57 what do you recommend for SDR?
I need to test it
Hi 😄, man how can i get samsung QD-OLED colours in HDR , can you please tell me settings
WRGB is more saturated on SDR with less brightness. Try these vivid mode
th-cam.com/video/ce909nqPiDU/w-d-xo.html
Crazy. I was literally just messing around with this all night before I even watched this video. I downloaded all the calibration files and I've been messing with settings on my hisense. I'm still trying to fix the red clipping and the black crush.
That's what we do
Color gamut -> fine tune would be where one fix only the saturation point for RED
@@brunogm Yeah I fixed the red. But then the overall picture looks horrible. I just put it back to how it was out of the box. I'm sure a professional calibrator knows what to do, so I'll stick with what looks good to me for now.
Have you tried to watch a HDR movie using BFI + w11 HDR slider 100% + secret menu using 540nits?
When I open I movie with VLC or Windows Media Player classic, it destroys my black+white+color saturation config.
VLC gives a test pattern result different than Media Player classic too.
I dont think I could adjust the white balance 22 points by myself.
I tried windows media player (not classic) and it seems that it respect it, but I think is not HDR, looks desaturated or washed out, compared to VLC.
Could you give a try? I would be thankful.
The only settings that work for movies with BFI are De-Judder 10 motion pro Medium, Auto, or Low, unless the movie is 50 or 60fps, which is rare.
I don't see any issues with VCL, I haven't tried the others, but I'm not sure that they support HDR without you paying Microsoft for a code pack, which I'm not going to do.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Yes, yes, I know. I meant that I used those settings
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 No way. You do not see any issues?
I opened 700-10Knits-MaxCLL-10000-MDL-10000 on the browser (brave and chrome) and I can see almost all colors flashing close to 10000 on both.
I open VLC and is totally wrong. (I tried KODI and same result as VLC) Even if I decrease color to 37, I still cant see half of red/blue/white. Blacks are not same either.
On the LG C1. On my Samsung G7 monitor happens something similar. All good on chrome, but on VLC the red is gone.
Of course I am not going to pay for the windows addon.
I'm using VCL in this video. You can see how the clipping points change depending on the Tone Mapping target I set on the HDMI signaling override menu with Mastering Peak Maxcll. I don't understand why you see a difference, but I'll explore that. Thanks for letting me know
Is there a bfi reshade i can use on my oled laptop
That's a good question, Software BFI is definitely possible, I know of some retro emulators that have it, I don't know if Reshade has it, I haven't seen it
Man how can i get more saturated picture similar to samsung tvs ? I don’t care about accuracy of whatever. I have ps5 lg c2 . Thanks 🙂
The color saturation isn't a strength of WRGB OLEDs, especially on HDR. The white subpixel desarurares the colors, and increasing the color saturation beyond default will start clipping the color red a lot. Try the vivid mode settings I recommend for SDR
On the 700 to 8500 test all the colours are not flashing to me 😂 what should i do
Use HGIG to test and lower the color saturation until you can at least get it to flash at 500
What should i put if i use dtm on 1000 nits.
Test color depth 50 and increase it as much as possible without clipping the red more
My TV actually makes the image shown on the TV in this video look great. As for max saturation that's still somewhat accurate feeling, I'd say it's probably around 55 or so for most high-end TV's (regardless of panel type). Might be able to push it a little bit higher depending on TV and exact settings.
Also, you are completely wrong about blue light. That's a complete lie, just marketing bull. There is absolutely 0 scientific evidence the the amount of blue light that comes from screens (phones, TV's, etc) have any detrimental effect on your health. The amount that comes from displays simply doesn't come close to being able to cause any harm. Reducing blue light in screens or using a blue light filter is pointless and just makes the image look awful.
How do you get dark mode in Windows Explorer?
I use a custom High contrast on Windows. Just press the win key and type in High Contrast
Calibration made the red fall in line on my cx. Not as nice then a plasma red but accurate and good enough. 3d lut is a good thing to have on a tv.
Calibration is best, no doubt about it
Homie is HYPER as f*ck in this video 🤣🤣💀💀 0:01
Amazing video bro as always, i was wondering where can i get those patterns so i can test my self on my tv too thanks in advance bro 👍
I added it to the description now www.avsforum.com/threads/hdr10-test-patterns-set.2943380/
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thank you so much bro 👍👍👍
You are welcome 👍
Mira pa ya , ya pareces un profesional 😂
Viste, vengo rompiendo montes y ciudades
would this be functinal with a sony tv too?
Download the test pattern sweet (link on the description) and figure it out on your Sony
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 i havent bought a sony tv, but i am planning to buy it because i have a samsung Q60b and man its so dissapointing with just 50hz
Videos so dark now? On purpose?
I lowered the brightness for the camera to show the HDR color clipping, I'm still trying to figure out the best recording settings, thanks for the feedback
Bro why you d ont use hlg its not god than hdr 10 ?!?
No, it's not better than HDR10. Learn how to fix the HDR10 broken games and use that instead th-cam.com/video/P-eq1jedgIs/w-d-xo.html
For non HDR supported games on PC this trick is better than HLG th-cam.com/video/NBQnZbXTjVc/w-d-xo.html
Hey man, eres Cubano?
De La Habana del Este, ahora en la yuma
what about rec 20 in the secret menu
On HDR the TV is already in rec2020, changing to it isn't going to make any difference. On SDR forcing bt2020 is wrong because the SDR color space is rec709. You can still use Native color gamut on SDR instead if you want the eye candy
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I think 2020 gives me more color pop i like it....But to each there own thx for the vids!
Enjoy it then
How many coffee did you had today 😆
I drink water only and get energized
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 😁A natural hyper then!
If you want an accurate TV you need to calibrate. Depends how much you're into having a reference accurate picture.
I'll talk about it next
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 awesome 👍
Sony's master series TV are actually very accurate out of the box, for most part (though not perfectly accurate). Still, I tried settings that others considered accurate for my TV for themselves (after professional calibration) and although the optimal settings are of course slightly different depending on the exact TV unit and environment... I can't say I liked it all that much. I just went back to factory settings and then tweaked myself for an image that I felt was accurate (it probably isn't, but to me it feels the best).
Is there an email to contact you ? I love your content but it's a little confusing to me I need help and don't really trust any tv shops in my area I love my C1 and your picture looks amazing
Watch this and let me know if you still have any questions th-cam.com/video/P-eq1jedgIs/w-d-xo.html
I use this for non HDR supported games on PC th-cam.com/video/NBQnZbXTjVc/w-d-xo.html
"PlasmaTV" did you try these settings th-cam.com/video/d-h1SigwQDA/w-d-xo.html
He does 3 color gamut fineTune, then for your panel you just need a White balance.
Eso oscure por que si baja brillo maximo y sube brillo alas midas crea colores santurado bien ser supone sea 80 pero no hay ninguna gamma perfectar de color ser supone sea 80 de color pero todavia ninguna compañia a logrado ese nivel de color si pasase los que yo digo todavia no a logrado santuracion completa y lindas eso de 80 fue que yo medi pero no queda bien porque tiene toda las compañia medir todo gamma mejor,los que esta trastado de consegui las compañia ser vea bien con temperatura super fria.los dificil es que color tambien dar brillo es bueno y malo LOL eso jejeee es un rompe capeza.HDR ES BUENISIMO PERO ESTA QUE ARREGLE LAS POSICION DE LAS LUZ BLANCA QUE ES LOS UNICO Y LOS MAS DIFICIL,el rojo es por las sombra es asi otra cosa que las compañia tiene que analisas
Here it show strengths/weakness for some colors with WOLED or QD-OLED panel. th-cam.com/video/Ps230YRxheU/w-d-xo.html
Is it better to post the name of the video instead otherwise TH-cam takes the comment down
I thought this was 1.25x
What are you referring to?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 man you’re fast
You just answered 3 different questions I've had about the C1/C2 in one video. I don't know how you come up with the time to do these deep dive comparisons for us, but I really appreciate it! If I had more time, I'd do some of this for my own personal use, but I've been really busy, so thank you again!
A question I've seen come up for the C2 (which may be similar with the C1 since they use the same panels in a lot of cases) is using the 'Native' color gamut option on PC in SDR instead of 'Auto' to get potentially more accurate color from Windows without using a custom color profile/colorimetry settings (using the PC input label of course). Do you have any thoughts on this or direct comparison information at all? This is something I've been really curious about, and you talking about the 'Native' vs 'Auto' for HDR reminded me of it.
www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/xfxdsr/collecting_thoughts_on_auto_vs_native_gamut_on_lg/
www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/wp2l9x/lg_c2_game_mode_color_gamut/
Here are a couple of links to threads discussing this, I hope I don't get flagged. If so, I apologize.
Using Native color gamut over SDR is incorrect and inaccurate because the SDR color space is rec709 and Auto clamps the color gamut correctly to rec709. Native color gamut is DCI P3 and it will definitely look overly saturated but if you like it now go for it. At the beginning I was loving Native coming from a Plasma TV that doesn't clamp the color gamut on SDR and goes beyond rec709 but I no longer like it. It's like studying music, there's a point where you need More sophisticated Classical music or Jazz and popular music no longer works
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 What you say reflects what one of the commenters was saying. That 'Native' color gamut was ~99% vs 'Auto' ~93%, but saturation was well over 100% using Native. I've played with both a bit, and while Native does improve the gamut, I find it over saturated, personally. I'd like to have a more accurate image with my C2 on PC, looks like I'd probably have to calibrate, and I don't want to, haha!
I'm looking forward to your next video discussing your thoughts on calibration. Thanks for your response!
@@hardlytech9072 Native does "oversaturate" the colors, on HDR games, you should not put it in Native, keep it to Auto, or change it to Dynamic. For SDR games though, firstly don't run SDR games in HDR using the Auto HDR function, it washes out the colors really bad.
For SDR games change the temp to 25, and the depth to 50. For HDR you want to use W40 or 0. I say 0 if you have problems with your eyes like astigmatism. HDR is much better looking than SDR, for some reason, SDR is too bright, not from a pixel brightness, but more so from the blacks. I ended up having to increase my screen brights to 65 in SDR, to get a better overall image.
The one thing to look out for with Auto is if the colors on a sports team are not accurate, then you need to switch to Native. Many TVs have issues with the bright yellow of the LA Lakers court in NBA2k. If you have it on Auto, it doesn't look like it would normally look like if you were sitting at the game, you have to then put it into native. You can also use Adobe settings if you know how to calibrate your set for that with Adobe RGB, but unless you're a graphic designer I wouldn't mess with that.
Bro it def change the clipping when u are increasing and lowering screen brightness. The higter u go u dont see it the lower u go, you can see it. Between 350 and 500. The red of the tv reacts the same as a red flashlight or a rgb led light. U can barely see true it. Every thing is blurry, maybe cuz your eyes cant monitor it. As a example build a rgb led light under your gaming desk, and turn on the red light. It is very destracting for your eyes. All objects in the room are blurry effect. Blue is also distracting for your eyes. Yellow purple pink white green etc doesnt have this effect so much on the eyes. Red light and blue light are really hard to perceive the objects etc around u in a room.
Why is it that blue and red neon lighting is difficult to see clearly in the dark? Other colors of neon lighting are clearly visible at night without any problems. It only works if I squeeze my eyes very hard.
The source of the difficulties is that light of different colors is refracted or deflected to different degrees by lenses, such as the lens in your eye. Blue light and red, especially violet light are deflected more strongly than the other colours.