Hey Victor, I really really enjoy your videos and just wanted to let you know how valuable you are and to keep being motivated to make these. I know not many watch them but the ones who do really enjoy and thoroughly believe your videos have a lot of very useful info :) Have a really great day man, thanks and take care! - Magnus
I really appreciate it. Didn't sleep last night because my son woke up at 3am and made a huge drama for an hour and after that i was too stressed to sleep. Drinking coffee at my desk at work now and don't know how I will survive today without falling asleep, and on top of that im super busy. But opening a message like this can really put some gas in the tank.
Top video! What wasn't mentioned was braid, which of course is super low diameter and much more suited to a smaller guide, the same as the 2lb mono, and in doing do reduces the disadvantages that you rightly discussed. I absolutely agree with your conclusion, there is a time and a place for everything and these limitations should be discussed by the manufacturer but they are not. The "New Guide Concept" from Fuji for guide size & positioning has far more practical real world applications than the later "KR Concept" which is useful only in very restricted circumstances.
Nice breakdown. I agree 100 percent. My biggest gripe with microguides is that if you use braid to leader knot, it often times hits against the guides when casting, which limits distance and accuracy.
You're not meant to use finesse type lures with micro guides. Also your leader not are obviously not the correct one. Try learning other knots. Or how about spool your real with all fluorocarbon or mono or braid so you don't have to use a leader than that gets rid of the problem entirely.
Excellent discussion on the pros and cons of micro guides. Factual and objective... not the usual blah blah blah from pro staff that are paid to endorse a product. Always enjoy your videos. Thank you.
Thank you. You may already know, carbon guides are being used on Diawa (AGS Air Guide System I don't know if on any UL rods yet) and Fuji is making CMG Carbon Micro Guides, (say lighter, stiffer, more sensitive, more ACCURATE casting and better hook setting) which are currently available on two of Abu Garcia Eradicator Real-Finesse rods. eradicator-realfinesse-cmg-cmg.html, other rods in series use Titanium/Torzite micro guides. I have not heard any complaints about casting distance from TroutMagnetMan, he uses a 4-5' shock leader with ester line, and thus does have a knot going through guides. Maybe it is your under hand flipping type cast that does not work well? I bought a very cheap UL rod ($60 rod and reel combo) that tapers to approximately 1mm at tip. It has cheap micro guides, very easily bent, and even the first guides are 'too' close to the blank, and 'too' small, looks all wrong, thought I would have to get them replaced. It is rated down to 1/32oz Fast 6'. I cast 1/64oz Trout Magnets 30+ feet. Spiderwire has a new ultra thin Ultracast braid out, 4lb diameter is .05mm which is same as Sufix Nanobraid 2lb.
Well thats a lot to process. I know the ags guides. Teoutmagmetman uses 2.3 pound varivas line. If u use thin line guides are fine. They still reduce distance but not much. Also he uses heavier lures in general. I think i am done with micronguides unless i find something really soecial. I found my next 300$ rod and it still has titanium torzite guides, but they are not micro.
Right. He says 1.5 gr is his sweet spot. With 2.3 pound varivas line and 1.5 gr jig i guarantee u can sling it out there even with micro guides. But the average angler doesnt use such thin line and such good gear as him. Also i have never used 1.5 gr jig for crappie, i go 0.6, 0.8 and 1.0 at most. Bottom line is micro guides are not for everyone, definitely not for beginners
ive noticed that my older rods throw further then my new fancy Japanese rods and now i understand why.. i thought its something that is easy to test in a lab.. thats frustrating
right.. i trusted the advertisement but i cast 0.6 grams jigs all summer and the first cast with the new rod I KNEW something is wrong. Then i started researching deeper
Really glad you did this video. These honest and informed takes are very difficult to find on anything in the fishing industry, particularly in video form. Trends like this anger and sadden me because I am experienced enough that I can feel the quality (or at least applicability to a technique) in the blank itself. If you put me in a room with no price tags, I will almost always end up in love with a rod in the $200+ range. But the higher quality rod/reel manufacturers tend to follow those trends when it comes to length/taper/components, which can make it impossible to find a rod that's actually useful for my purposes. I have to scour the entire market and sometimes the only answer is to look for used rods from before the trend happened, or strip down a blank and rebuild it (which is always nerve wracking).
Liked. Thanks for suggesting this video. Question: Are you saying that with UL lines (say 2-3lbs) micro guides don't really impact casting distance much if at all? Seems to be so at the end. (It seems that the only way to really tell for sure is to build two identical rigs, changing only the guide sizes.)
That is correct. At least this Varivas line... goes through the ABU very easy and i can definitely cast where I need without much fuss. I can still HEAR the line though.... and the line will go through the St. Croix completely silently. At the end of the day 2 lb will be OK with micro guides, but 3 will be more audible, and 4 or more will just not work. For pounds is too much for the Abu guides - i can promise you that. It's not the end of the world though... we fish with thin line for UL anyway, and we usually don't cast that far, here in the USA. Usually around some brush. So practical impact is minimal, when using thin line. But if i were saltwater fishing from the banks, and need all the distance i can get, and need a little stronger line - i would not consider micro guides
You missed one major advantage SIZE. On my new Dobyns Sierra Ultra Finesse rod it was explained that it had micro guides because the blank is so thin at the top that regular guides can't be used. This allows the end of the rod to be thinner and lighter than any rod with regular guides. You could argue this can lead to the tip/rod being more sensitive because a thinner blank can be used.
The thinking person's guide to fishing equipment reviews, this man is articulate, reasoned, who explains the pros and cons thoroughly, coming from a man whose 1st language is not english. There are way to many lazy reviewers doing fishing video's who have english as their 1st and only language who need to lift their game and would do well to take a leaf out of his book. I watch a lot fishing reviews but only subscribe to two reviewers Victor is one of them.
Thank you Victor. There are a couple of rod builders here in the northeast who are serious bottom fisherman and are very obsessed with sensitivity in detecting bites in very deep water (2-300ft) who actually believe that any form of ceramic ring dissipates energy from the blank more so then a straight stainless guide so we see stiff graphite blanks with ring less guides. similar to "ugly tuff" guides
thats nonsense. Ceramic is much MUCH harder than steel. That's the reason high end bearings have ceramic balls. Ceramic also flexes less, and flexing absorbs vibration and is no good. I know you use the term 'ceramic' as a general term for all derivatives, like zirconium, silicone carbide, torzite and whatnot, and so am I. I know those people you are talking about - they are old school and very superstitious, but from engineering perspective there is absolutely no argument the materials above are superior inserts than steel. Especially the 3 that i mentioned... they weigh practically nothing, and the only reason those people don't use them is because they are prohibitively expensive. But if they did, their rods would drop 10 grams of weight just from the tip, and they would be pretty shocked at the difference. The only way that would make sense is if you compare the steel guides against some super cheap and super thick Aluminum Oxide guides, that actually weight more than the steel guides because they are so heavy. But the 3 materials that i pointed above are so far superior than steel that comparisons are just not possible
You should have post this video before I ordered majorcraft speedstyle S63UL. I had a problem knot hitting the guide (uni from 4lb nanofil to 4lb leader. Anyway it will cast trout magnet (the one I won from you) about 30-40’
Excellent video! There need to be more videos about the true advantages and disadvantages of products that aren't just industry hype. My experience with spinning rods is the size of that first guide as we move away from the reel is really important for casting distance. It also seems to help with it is lined up well with the height of the reel. I prefer to have that first guide be pretty big and in line with the reel because I usually fish from the bank and casting distance is important to me in lots of situations.
yes, me too. For years I only bought carp rods from UK and they ALWAYS advertise as special feature when the first guide is 50mm (usually it is 40mm but on long cast versions of same rod they go with 50). Honestly, you can HEAR the line going through micro guides when u use over 2 pound line. It sounds very harsh and like RRRRR
Microwaive guides = micro guides for idiots. Its the same thing, but the first guide is just idiotic. The guy who invented it is not a 'bass professor'. He is an idiot. If you want micro guides, just get micro guides. All he did was glue a micro guide inside a regular guide, so u still can't cast for sh#T, but now u don't get the weight advantage either!
I totally agree Victor. For Spinning rods with heavier lines or leader knots, micro guides are a no no. The talk about how they improve the performance of a blank is also not really true, unless they are being compared with double footed guides. The trend is to use more number of micro guides on a blank, all the extra thread and epoxy takes away the advantages it could have with lighter lines. I would be interested to hear your take on the KR Guide concept
Many brands have them with different names now.. i really don't care about the brand. I don't want micro guides any more. They just bother me all day. Yes, the rod feels nice, but casting is terrible, even with thin line. You can cast with thin line just fine, but when u switch to my favorite ultralight rod Daiwa Presso the lines goes through the rod completely silently and i just love that. I like to lob my jigs on to the brush. Lobbing just doesn't work with micro guides. You need to do overhead cast or some bigger motion.. More guides needing more thread and glue is a good point. I didn't think of that but its obviously true
I guess you would have to find a domestic rod here in the states that offers 2 versions of the same rod (one with standard guides and one with micro guides) that are also designed for heavier line so you could do a test on the casting distance and sensitivity. I would probably guess that heavier line would need bigger guides because naturally you would use a bigger size reel to spool up 10 lb or greater so that means bigger coils as well. my jdm I use a 1000 size reel and true 2lb line( as alot of us manufactures claim 2lb diameter but it's breaking point is beyond that) and the micro guides cast 1/64oz jigs like a dream. I would figure on my jdm rod all things come into play with it's load and reduced friction with sic inserts and line control from the k series micro guides. I've tossed 1/64 jigs with my domestic ul rods from here in the states and it's like night and day for me. these have either standard stainless steel guides with inserts or the American tackle guides and still my jdm just does it better. Im not sure if micro guides themselves are ever put on rods that are meant for heavier line beyond 5lb-6lb pe/nylon which I think most jdm rods are recommend for pe. but the jdm rods that have micro guided are usually meant for finesse fishing and you are tossing small lures since the blanks they are on are usually not rated for higher than 10- 15 grams. if they made blanks to throw heavier lures then I think they may not come with micro guides on the blank.
Right. As I said at the end, there is nothing wrong with micro guides, if you use them as you use them. There is no need for 2 versions of the rod, as I don't want big guides on my 300$ majorcraft rod. But like you I use very thin line. Actually I use 2.5 lb and i definitely have a problem with 1/64. I think i need to go down to 2.0 and it will probably work. The thing is when I do ultralight fishing i catch bass and catfish all the time, and sometimes even musky. I want to have a shot at landing those fish ..
@@ifishcatfish I'm surprised that you have issues with 2.5lb line what size reel do you use on your truzer. I use a Shimano soare feel that is a a little bit bigger than a 1000 size reel here in the states.
i use daiwa Theory 2000. Body is 1000 but spool is bigger. Also, theory spools are wider to begin with. I like those spools because the line is not curly. These small 1000 size spools leave the line very curly and with a lot of line twist.
I should've watched this before i pulled the trigger on a micro guide rod. Every time I cast it feels like it takes more effort... with even worst distance as well compared to normal guides
Thanks for leaving a comment. I also get comments from people that tell me that I am wrong and micro guides actually INCREASE casting distance. It's just funny that none of them actually HAVE a micro guide rod.. As for your problem - I dont konw what line you are using, but u have to go LOWER. When u go very thin eventually the guides don't bother the line too much. It's never gona be better than regular guides though
If I could give this 5 likes I would! I recently bought a G Loomis E6X 843S MF 7' spinner. The stripper guide is 20 mm!!!! AND,they say it fishes mono up to 14lb!! It doesn't even like 10 lb. Daiwa X8 !! Keep up the good work.
I've never noticed the difference you speak of, but I never use mono either. Possibly it's thick, stiff and kinky enough to reduce casting distance with smaller guides.
what line do u use? Do u even use rods with regular guides? Some people use only JDM gear with 4 lb braid and they walk around and say they don't see a problem
@@ifishcatfish I have rods with both. I use 10 pound braid (4 pound equivalent diameter) on most of them, most often with a fluorocarbon leader attached with a double uni knot. I can feel the knot when I retrieve it through the tip guide (regular or micro), but if it affects my casting, it's not enough to bother me. I really don't see the point of micro guides. I didn't buy any of my rods because I wanted them, they just happened to be what was supplied.
@@ifishcatfish I think braid is so thin, slick and limp, so superior to mono, that it greatly minimizes the effect of the guides, whatever their size. I only fish UL on the rare occasions that I target panfish or trout. My usual gear ranges from medium light to medium heavy, spinning and baitcasting.
no, i did not. not familiar with either of these. If it is not on my Rods playlist, i am not familiar with it. I have reviewed all rods that i have owned
@@ifishcatfish thanks. EU and USA market is very different. I'm mostly LRF/UL saltwater user and its really pain to find rod in EU with blank 1-10/15g. Usaly only JDM have this type of rods
I just found this video.. Unfortunately, after buying a new rod with micro guides last month. I was on a small river and starting casting once I found a spot. I noticed greatly reduced casting distance and actually thought I was catching spider webs reeling back in. It wasn’t webs, but my line was actually being shaved if I held my tip up above level. Not happy, not falling for it again. Thanks for confirming bullish!t on these rod guides. Wished I would’ve found your video first. Sub’n
thanks for taking the time to comment. Got quite a few of these, if it makes u feel better. If it doesn't make u feel better, just buy some super thin line just for this one rod, preferably super thin braid. I actually gave away the $300 JDM rod in this video : ) It was my first and most likely my last.. : )
Looked at a few rods with micro-guides. Don’t want my connection not getting hung up and seems like you mentioned especially on spinning rods would slow the flow of line through the first few guides. My casting rods mostly have semi-micro guides. Thanks for the great video and information!
not the length of the rod, you can only have a couple feet of leader. It's hard to cast with more. Yes, then you are OK, but you don't always have a choice
You hit the nail on the head. Micro guides arent the best of both worlds like manufacturers would have us believe. I noticed the first time I run a leader though them, god forbid a bobber stop. That being said i do have a couple of rods with tiny guides that i love for very specific tasks, and they are xtra fast action on top if that believe it or not which im normally not a fan of.
@@ifishcatfish I just ordered a 7' med/hevy favorite pro series rod and all there pro's got together and agreed to have guides big enough for leader use. This will be my 3rd try on a casting rod. Wish me luck. I use 50lb braid to 17lb fluorocarbon utilizing the Alberto knot.
the high end rod makers want that magic feel in the hand. Also if u can afford such a rod u are probably sophisticated enough to be able to use very thin line. I don't know about the whole industry though. U not gona get Johnny with the ugly stick use 2 pound line. Also some guides are just small. I think a 3mm inner ring is manageable, but my my major craft with 2.3mm guides was just too much for my nerves.I am buying a high end st croix rod next just because it has good size guides. They are still light because they are torzite/titanium, but have decent ring size
Damn I feel like i just got tricked into buying an overpriced rod now that ive used the Gloomis E6x then compared it to the Fenwick HMX where I couldnt tell the difference then struggle to cast it far. But compared to my cheap Daiwa Acculite rod, the Daiwa Acculite Rod makes casting far way easier. Seeing this vid confirms my sanity. The bottom line for me is that the more expensive rods are lighter compared to the cheap ones.
@@ifishcatfish sigh, i should have not listened to the hype the other channels are saying that so called expensive rods make you feel the bites better compared to others, when its all about just how light it is. The way they make it sound as if it has magical properties that cheaper rods dont have.
well sensitivity is better in general too. But I don't think that u can't feel the bites at all with cheap rods. I fished cheap rods most of my life and felt the bites just fine. Yes, it is easier with light carborn rods.. but its not like u catch more fish. Mostly expensive rods are about pleasure... light, pretty, sensitive... but u catch the same amount of fish as cheap rods
Diggin the content Victor. Just picked up a few Daiwa Procyon pcyn711ulfs models have them paired with the Legalis lt 2500 spooled with suffix 2 pound nanobraid aqua camo and I believe this setup has that magic 🪄 feeling you speak of. I’m a Oregon angler that targets everything from salmon and steelhead to perch and crappie from alpine lakes, creeks and river to valley bottom reservoirs and ocean surf. Crappie are my favorite by far too hunt and eat so if you’re ever in southern Oregon look me up. Ps: can’t wait to see rope some Tennessee slabs
I have a lurmatic shimano rod With micro rings and shimano stella reel size 1000 I fish in salt water using the Japanies Ajing method. And I have come a long way with thick threads My poor thing: I have to go through thin threads in Japanese sizes that's 0.3PE ,This is difficult and requires good hands to tie the braid line to the fluorocarbon I use the Fg knot which he manages to get through in guides very well. My peak with Pe 0.3 is this Blue runner weighing 1,800Kg. All of my attempts with thicker threads have failed. But once I learned to work with 0.3pe it's just a tremendous thrill
Yes. Thin line is the only way to go. U have one more advantage because u cast long distance and u can swing hard. But if u cast short distance it is harder.. the line wont go through without a big swing with the rod
I love everything about this, you're either fundamentally scientifically minded or you're just that invested in fishing rods (Id say the former is more likely.) Great breakdown; makes perfect sense and the best of marketing couldn't argue against it.
Hate how micro guides get braided line wrapped around them. You can't just give them a shake to untangle the guide, like you can with k guides. I'm stuck on k guides right now but willing to always give other guides a shot on custom rods.
I can vouch for the claim that Michael guides cast further. It's physics. With micro guys online stays straighter when casting and doesn't slap around therefore the cast further and I notice it every time I use my rods that have them. You have to use the right lures though. With micro guides preferably the lures you're using should be a little on the heavy side meaning anywhere from a quarter ounce and up.
Hello, great video. I’m into Feeder fishing, I know it’s different than spinning, but still about Micro guide… and casting distance.. I usually fishing with 14ft Matrix xpro distance 150gr rod, having some 13-16 guides/ I don’t remember right now.. And I’m fishing usually with 10 lb mono/ 0.26 and i use 50 lb braid leader, Uni to Uni knots.. Still I can cast some 120meters with this setup.. And I’m using a very big carp coil Daiwa basia 45, something like 65mm + spool diameter and the first guide has some 19mm inside diameter… Anyway seems you can add to your experience about Micro guide.. Take care 👏
@@ifishcatfish well, I measured, first 7 guide from top have inner diameter of 4mm.. Idk if it’s small or micro but I will say it’s pretty amazing for 14 rings on a rod starting from 19mm to 4mm to cast such long distance…
i don't know if whoever designed them will agree with you. But i would agree its easier to use them with thin braid, because it is softer and still strong enough. Using them with mono - u have to work with 0.12mm line, and thats just too much risk
I bought my first casting rod and it was a USA made one with micro guides and I hate it, reason being if your not extremely careful they brake more easily then any other type of guide, there also so micro that the line touches the blank when it’s loaded up.
Hello,nice video as usually...would be interesting to see in one of your vids a Zenaq spinning rod with RG guides on it (regarding the cast distance).I’m saying this because those are a lot of micro guides which theoretically cast incredibly further (as producer and many users say) and that they are more safe to use also on windy weather compared to normal(or K guide rings)..if that’s true than maybe the laws of physics can be broken ..all the best and keep doing what you’re doing..you are awesome 🙂👍
Good throughly enlightments review , micro guides may shines under certain conditions in my opinion , smaller diameter spools thus smaller coils , the first n the second guides those tend to take the most line frictions before the line begins to straiten up with rest as possible , it is more about line straitness than line frictions n well desinge rod may aproach to such possible results . Btw the best surf rods don't use micro guides ! still true about the manufacturers hype tho .
I come from european carp fishing. Carp rods for long distance explicitly advertise larger guides. Normally carp rods have a 40 mm first guide, but sometimes they put a 50mm for the long distance rods and then they advertise it. Even in Daiwa and Shimano catalogs for 2020 I found they advertise the 50mm first guide when i did my research. In all honesty i found videos of pro bass anglers who even though use baitcasters say micro guides are BS for casting... so there are some folks out there who u can fool with the advertisement and the videos, but when u give them the rods in the hand u can't fool any more because they have to make living out of that
What a great topic for slow motion video to show how line flows through different guide types and sizes. Maybe you should contact Smartereveryday channel to see if he would run this experiment. I think this extreme option/feature of a product is just another marketing scheme invented to make a solution for a need that just does not exist and sell more product.
A used car off the lot will not win a NASCAR race. You need to pick the right tool for the job. I think if you look at the information Fuji has produced on the KR Concept for spinning guides you will find the come to similar conclusions. Heavier lines call for larger guides. I would also ask, do you want to fish for crappies with a spinning rod designed for 14# line?
you seem to be arguing against something in the video. If that is the case - quote the piece that you disagree with. I spent 30 % of the video describing the benefits of micro guides, and discussed them again in the summary. My whole grind is against these absurd absurd statements, like casting farther and whatnot. That's like taking credit for the flaws of your product. But i was very clear that if you stick to thin lines and you want the magic feeling, you will need micro guides.
yeah, the knots are a problem, otherwise for vertical jigging casting is not a problem. Minima makes titanium guides that are super light but have good diameter. Those are my favorite.
@@ifishcatfish well they’re measured by the inside diameter of the frame, same as the outside diameter of the ring in millimeters. But like I said tip tops have 2 measurements ring size in millimeters and tube size 1/64th inch. Stripper guides are the most important guide when it comes to line management. That’s the guide closest to the reel. The beauty of micro guides is the lack of weight put on the blank. More weight = less crisp, sloppy action. You can also put more guides on the same size blank.
This sounds like the contradictory marketing of "RED" Use RED line it disappears under water. Then we got. Use RED hooks so the fish can see you bait better. Marketing wank.
If micro guides were better for casting distance, the guides would be all be the same small size, starting at the reel. They aren’t, and no one sells a spinning rod with this feature. Reductio ad absurdum. QED.
argument looks good to me. They are smaller, hence cheaper, they are lighter, hence rod feels better, if they ALSO cast better, why on earth would anyone put a big guide on a rod..
Victor, an excellent video on micro guides. I have a 2013 St Croix Legend Extreme rod with micro guides. It's an excellent rod, but those micro guides can freeze in cold weather and get easily clogged with debris. It's my fair-weather rod and rarely gets used. I will be selling it in the future. There's a TH-camr fishing with his micro guide rod in cold weather, and it caused him so much grief. It was funny because I know the feeling and frustration. Have you considered making a video on the variety of rod guides (The great, the good, and the terrible) and which rod guides you prefer on a rod? I don't see much information on rod guides which are critical components of a rod.
i am not familiar with all guides. I am not really a guides expert, but micro guides in particular i have fished a lot and have analyzed carefully and made a video, but it would be tough to talk about all guides. There is hundreds of guides out there..
@@ifishcatfish Well, kudos to your excellent presentation on micro guides. I thought you could expand on the rod guides theme focusing on what you like to see on fishing rods you own, have owned, and what you look for in rod guides when you buy a fishing rod for the type of fishing you do. I am just throwing it out there for your consideration as you do have expertise in that specific field and possess practical user knowledge.
This is by far the best channel for learning about rods and reels. Learned so much the last couple of days.
Hey Victor, I really really enjoy your videos and just wanted to let you know how valuable you are and to keep being motivated to make these. I know not many watch them but the ones who do really enjoy and thoroughly believe your videos have a lot of very useful info :)
Have a really great day man, thanks and take care!
- Magnus
I really appreciate it. Didn't sleep last night because my son woke up at 3am and made a huge drama for an hour and after that i was too stressed to sleep. Drinking coffee at my desk at work now and don't know how I will survive today without falling asleep, and on top of that im super busy. But opening a message like this can really put some gas in the tank.
Top video! What wasn't mentioned was braid, which of course is super low diameter and much more suited to a smaller guide, the same as the 2lb mono, and in doing do reduces the disadvantages that you rightly discussed. I absolutely agree with your conclusion, there is a time and a place for everything and these limitations should be discussed by the manufacturer but they are not. The "New Guide Concept" from Fuji for guide size & positioning has far more practical real world applications than the later "KR Concept" which is useful only in very restricted circumstances.
Don't be lazy! If you came down to comment you might as well leave a like. Unless u want to leave a dislike. Then be lazy : )
Nice breakdown. I agree 100 percent. My biggest gripe with microguides is that if you use braid to leader knot, it often times hits against the guides when casting, which limits distance and accuracy.
because u use them with bigger weights. Try throwing a 1 gram jig. U gona get to hate them even without a knot.
You're not meant to use finesse type lures with micro guides. Also your leader not are obviously not the correct one. Try learning other knots. Or how about spool your real with all fluorocarbon or mono or braid so you don't have to use a leader than that gets rid of the problem entirely.
This is very frustrating, so in my early days I either shortened my leader or tried to learn an FG knot.
Excellent discussion on the pros and cons of micro guides. Factual and objective... not the usual blah blah blah from pro staff that are paid to endorse a product. Always enjoy your videos. Thank you.
thanks boss. i assure u these comments really count for me
Very informative. I just got the Gloomis GLX TSR791S but haven't made it out to the water yet. Have you tried the Gloomis trout series rods?
no, haven't owned or even fished with a Gloomis rod. I have played with them in the store - thats it
Thank you. You may already know, carbon guides are being used on Diawa (AGS Air Guide System I don't know if on any UL rods yet) and Fuji is making CMG Carbon Micro Guides, (say lighter, stiffer, more sensitive, more ACCURATE casting and better hook setting) which are currently available on two of Abu Garcia Eradicator Real-Finesse rods. eradicator-realfinesse-cmg-cmg.html, other rods in series use Titanium/Torzite micro guides. I have not heard any complaints about casting distance from TroutMagnetMan, he uses a 4-5' shock leader with ester line, and thus does have a knot going through guides. Maybe it is your under hand flipping type cast that does not work well? I bought a very cheap UL rod ($60 rod and reel combo) that tapers to approximately 1mm at tip. It has cheap micro guides, very easily bent, and even the first guides are 'too' close to the blank, and 'too' small, looks all wrong, thought I would have to get them replaced. It is rated down to 1/32oz Fast 6'. I cast 1/64oz Trout Magnets 30+ feet. Spiderwire has a new ultra thin Ultracast braid out, 4lb diameter is .05mm which is same as Sufix Nanobraid 2lb.
Well thats a lot to process. I know the ags guides. Teoutmagmetman uses 2.3 pound varivas line. If u use thin line guides are fine. They still reduce distance but not much. Also he uses heavier lures in general. I think i am done with micronguides unless i find something really soecial. I found my next 300$ rod and it still has titanium torzite guides, but they are not micro.
Seems unless he is fishing strong current or going deep he typically uses 1 -1.5 gram jig heads.
Right. He says 1.5 gr is his sweet spot. With 2.3 pound varivas line and 1.5 gr jig i guarantee u can sling it out there even with micro guides. But the average angler doesnt use such thin line and such good gear as him. Also i have never used 1.5 gr jig for crappie, i go 0.6, 0.8 and 1.0 at most. Bottom line is micro guides are not for everyone, definitely not for beginners
Interesting stuff Victor...really like how you meticulously break these things down. Thank you!
i appreciate the comment Jim
This is a very reasonable and balanced review. And yes it is quite helpful! Thank you!
ive noticed that my older rods throw further then my new fancy Japanese rods and now i understand why.. i thought its something that is easy to test in a lab.. thats frustrating
right.. i trusted the advertisement but i cast 0.6 grams jigs all summer and the first cast with the new rod I KNEW something is wrong. Then i started researching deeper
Really glad you did this video. These honest and informed takes are very difficult to find on anything in the fishing industry, particularly in video form.
Trends like this anger and sadden me because I am experienced enough that I can feel the quality (or at least applicability to a technique) in the blank itself. If you put me in a room with no price tags, I will almost always end up in love with a rod in the $200+ range.
But the higher quality rod/reel manufacturers tend to follow those trends when it comes to length/taper/components, which can make it impossible to find a rod that's actually useful for my purposes. I have to scour the entire market and sometimes the only answer is to look for used rods from before the trend happened, or strip down a blank and rebuild it (which is always nerve wracking).
Liked. Thanks for suggesting this video. Question: Are you saying that with UL lines (say 2-3lbs) micro guides don't really impact casting distance much if at all? Seems to be so at the end. (It seems that the only way to really tell for sure is to build two identical rigs, changing only the guide sizes.)
That is correct. At least this Varivas line... goes through the ABU very easy and i can definitely cast where I need without much fuss. I can still HEAR the line though.... and the line will go through the St. Croix completely silently. At the end of the day 2 lb will be OK with micro guides, but 3 will be more audible, and 4 or more will just not work. For pounds is too much for the Abu guides - i can promise you that.
It's not the end of the world though... we fish with thin line for UL anyway, and we usually don't cast that far, here in the USA. Usually around some brush. So practical impact is minimal, when using thin line. But if i were saltwater fishing from the banks, and need all the distance i can get, and need a little stronger line - i would not consider micro guides
@@ifishcatfish Thanks!
You missed one major advantage SIZE. On my new Dobyns Sierra Ultra Finesse rod it was explained that it had micro guides because the blank is so thin at the top that regular guides can't be used. This allows the end of the rod to be thinner and lighter than any rod with regular guides. You could argue this can lead to the tip/rod being more sensitive because a thinner blank can be used.
never heard of Dobyns... i dont know what they told you, but now you know the truth
The thinking person's guide to fishing equipment reviews, this man is articulate, reasoned, who explains the pros and cons thoroughly, coming from a man whose 1st language is not english. There are way to many lazy reviewers doing fishing video's who have english as their 1st and only language who need to lift their game and would do well to take a leaf out of his book. I watch a lot fishing reviews but only subscribe to two reviewers Victor is one of them.
i seem to have missed the best comment
Thank you Victor. There are a couple of rod builders here in the northeast who are serious bottom fisherman and are very obsessed with sensitivity in detecting bites in very deep water (2-300ft) who actually believe that any form of ceramic ring dissipates energy from the blank more so then a straight stainless guide so we see stiff graphite blanks with ring less guides. similar to "ugly tuff" guides
thats nonsense. Ceramic is much MUCH harder than steel. That's the reason high end bearings have ceramic balls. Ceramic also flexes less, and flexing absorbs vibration and is no good. I know you use the term 'ceramic' as a general term for all derivatives, like zirconium, silicone carbide, torzite and whatnot, and so am I. I know those people you are talking about - they are old school and very superstitious, but from engineering perspective there is absolutely no argument the materials above are superior inserts than steel. Especially the 3 that i mentioned... they weigh practically nothing, and the only reason those people don't use them is because they are prohibitively expensive. But if they did, their rods would drop 10 grams of weight just from the tip, and they would be pretty shocked at the difference.
The only way that would make sense is if you compare the steel guides against some super cheap and super thick Aluminum Oxide guides, that actually weight more than the steel guides because they are so heavy. But the 3 materials that i pointed above are so far superior than steel that comparisons are just not possible
You should have post this video before I ordered majorcraft speedstyle S63UL. I had a problem knot hitting the guide (uni from 4lb nanofil to 4lb leader. Anyway it will cast trout magnet (the one I won from you) about 30-40’
Its not the end of the world. Just go down in line diameter until it works..
Excellent video! There need to be more videos about the true advantages and disadvantages of products that aren't just industry hype. My experience with spinning rods is the size of that first guide as we move away from the reel is really important for casting distance. It also seems to help with it is lined up well with the height of the reel. I prefer to have that first guide be pretty big and in line with the reel because I usually fish from the bank and casting distance is important to me in lots of situations.
yes, me too. For years I only bought carp rods from UK and they ALWAYS advertise as special feature when the first guide is 50mm (usually it is 40mm but on long cast versions of same rod they go with 50). Honestly, you can HEAR the line going through micro guides when u use over 2 pound line. It sounds very harsh and like RRRRR
It's why carp rods have really big rings, to be able to throw far.
PRECISELY, mr Dan!
Great video. Any thoughts on Microwave guides?
Microwaive guides = micro guides for idiots. Its the same thing, but the first guide is just idiotic. The guy who invented it is not a 'bass professor'. He is an idiot. If you want micro guides, just get micro guides. All he did was glue a micro guide inside a regular guide, so u still can't cast for sh#T, but now u don't get the weight advantage either!
@@ifishcatfish Thanks for the reply. The hype looks good but of course so does every sales pitch.
I totally agree Victor. For Spinning rods with heavier lines or leader knots, micro guides are a no no. The talk about how they improve the performance of a blank is also not really true, unless they are being compared with double footed guides. The trend is to use more number of micro guides on a blank, all the extra thread and epoxy takes away the advantages it could have with lighter lines. I would be interested to hear your take on the KR Guide concept
Many brands have them with different names now.. i really don't care about the brand. I don't want micro guides any more. They just bother me all day. Yes, the rod feels nice, but casting is terrible, even with thin line. You can cast with thin line just fine, but when u switch to my favorite ultralight rod Daiwa Presso the lines goes through the rod completely silently and i just love that. I like to lob my jigs on to the brush. Lobbing just doesn't work with micro guides. You need to do overhead cast or some bigger motion..
More guides needing more thread and glue is a good point. I didn't think of that but its obviously true
Well done Victor. As an Engineer i completely agree with everything you said. Keep it up.
i appreciate that comment, sir!
precision, durability, sensitivity, comfortability and value for money..best describes microguides...you just nailed it on your video.tightlines!
thanks bud
I guess you would have to find a domestic rod here in the states that offers 2 versions of the same rod (one with standard guides and one with micro guides) that are also designed for heavier line so you could do a test on the casting distance and sensitivity.
I would probably guess that heavier line would need bigger guides because naturally you would use a bigger size reel to spool up 10 lb or greater so that means bigger coils as well.
my jdm I use a 1000 size reel and true 2lb line( as alot of us manufactures claim 2lb diameter but it's breaking point is beyond that) and the micro guides cast 1/64oz jigs like a dream.
I would figure on my jdm rod all things come into play with it's load and reduced friction with sic inserts and line control from the k series micro guides.
I've tossed 1/64 jigs with my domestic ul rods from here in the states and it's like night and day for me. these have either standard stainless steel guides with inserts or the American tackle guides and still my jdm just does it better.
Im not sure if micro guides themselves are ever put on rods that are meant for heavier line beyond 5lb-6lb pe/nylon which I think most jdm rods are recommend for pe. but the jdm rods that have micro guided are usually meant for finesse fishing and you are tossing small lures since the blanks they are on are usually not rated for higher than 10- 15 grams. if they made blanks to throw heavier lures then I think they may not come with micro guides on the blank.
Right. As I said at the end, there is nothing wrong with micro guides, if you use them as you use them. There is no need for 2 versions of the rod, as I don't want big guides on my 300$ majorcraft rod. But like you I use very thin line. Actually I use 2.5 lb and i definitely have a problem with 1/64. I think i need to go down to 2.0 and it will probably work.
The thing is when I do ultralight fishing i catch bass and catfish all the time, and sometimes even musky. I want to have a shot at landing those fish ..
@@ifishcatfish I'm surprised that you have issues with 2.5lb line what size reel do you use on your truzer. I use a Shimano soare feel that is a a little bit bigger than a 1000 size reel here in the states.
i use daiwa Theory 2000. Body is 1000 but spool is bigger. Also, theory spools are wider to begin with. I like those spools because the line is not curly. These small 1000 size spools leave the line very curly and with a lot of line twist.
This is terrific - an absolutely essential guide for anyone researching a new rod!!
thank you sir, very kind
I should've watched this before i pulled the trigger on a micro guide rod. Every time I cast it feels like it takes more effort... with even worst distance as well compared to normal guides
Thanks for leaving a comment. I also get comments from people that tell me that I am wrong and micro guides actually INCREASE casting distance. It's just funny that none of them actually HAVE a micro guide rod..
As for your problem - I dont konw what line you are using, but u have to go LOWER. When u go very thin eventually the guides don't bother the line too much. It's never gona be better than regular guides though
If I could give this 5 likes I would!
I recently bought a G Loomis E6X 843S MF 7' spinner.
The stripper guide is 20 mm!!!! AND,they say it fishes mono up to 14lb!!
It doesn't even like 10 lb. Daiwa X8 !!
Keep up the good work.
I've never noticed the difference you speak of, but I never use mono either. Possibly it's thick, stiff and kinky enough to reduce casting distance with smaller guides.
what line do u use? Do u even use rods with regular guides? Some people use only JDM gear with 4 lb braid and they walk around and say they don't see a problem
@@ifishcatfish I have rods with both. I use 10 pound braid (4 pound equivalent diameter) on most of them, most often with a fluorocarbon leader attached with a double uni knot. I can feel the knot when I retrieve it through the tip guide (regular or micro), but if it affects my casting, it's not enough to bother me. I really don't see the point of micro guides. I didn't buy any of my rods because I wanted them, they just happened to be what was supplied.
u talking about spinning gear or ultralight? Even 4 pound mono is enough to tell the difference, if u have true micro guides
@@ifishcatfish I think braid is so thin, slick and limp, so superior to mono, that it greatly minimizes the effect of the guides, whatever their size. I only fish UL on the rare occasions that I target panfish or trout. My usual gear ranges from medium light to medium heavy, spinning and baitcasting.
Did you try Major Craft aji do 5G rods? I'm thinking between the two of Jackson Ocean Gate Aji 0.4-10g or MJ Aji Do 5G 1-15g
no, i did not. not familiar with either of these. If it is not on my Rods playlist, i am not familiar with it. I have reviewed all rods that i have owned
@@ifishcatfish thanks. EU and USA market is very different. I'm mostly LRF/UL saltwater user and its really pain to find rod in EU with blank 1-10/15g. Usaly only JDM have this type of rods
I just found this video..
Unfortunately, after buying a new rod with micro guides last month.
I was on a small river and starting casting once I found a spot.
I noticed greatly reduced casting distance and actually thought I was catching spider webs reeling back in.
It wasn’t webs, but my line was actually being shaved if I held my tip up above level.
Not happy, not falling for it again.
Thanks for confirming bullish!t on these rod guides.
Wished I would’ve found your video first.
Sub’n
thanks for taking the time to comment. Got quite a few of these, if it makes u feel better. If it doesn't make u feel better, just buy some super thin line just for this one rod, preferably super thin braid. I actually gave away the $300 JDM rod in this video : ) It was my first and most likely my last.. : )
Looked at a few rods with micro-guides. Don’t want my connection not getting hung up and seems like you mentioned especially on spinning rods would slow the flow of line through the first few guides. My casting rods mostly have semi-micro guides. Thanks for the great video and information!
If u like the rods dont be afraid of it.. but u have to use very thin line in that rod
Nano and micro guides with fluoro leader the length of the rod should cast well. No knot that way to effect the cast? Your thoughts?
not the length of the rod, you can only have a couple feet of leader. It's hard to cast with more. Yes, then you are OK, but you don't always have a choice
Real great secrets exposed. Your video is very much educational. God bless. Love and regards from Antonio, from Goa, India
thank you sir!
You hit the nail on the head. Micro guides arent the best of both worlds like manufacturers would have us believe. I noticed the first time I run a leader though them, god forbid a bobber stop. That being said i do have a couple of rods with tiny guides that i love for very specific tasks, and they are xtra fast action on top if that believe it or not which im normally not a fan of.
Thank you for speaking the truth! I use a braid to leader and all micro guides do is piss me off.
hah! They piss me off too : ) Can't stand them, even on expensive JDM rods
@@ifishcatfish I just ordered a 7' med/hevy favorite pro series rod and all there pro's got together and agreed to have guides big enough for leader use. This will be my 3rd try on a casting rod. Wish me luck. I use 50lb braid to 17lb fluorocarbon utilizing the Alberto knot.
Very detailed and honest as always thanks. Not buying the major craft now.
I gave mine away : ) . I am looking for another high end rod, but not with micro guides.
@@ifishcatfish i bought a Shimano Crucial spinning rod on sale and it came with fuji micro guides too. The industry is moving towards micro I guess.
the high end rod makers want that magic feel in the hand. Also if u can afford such a rod u are probably sophisticated enough to be able to use very thin line. I don't know about the whole industry though. U not gona get Johnny with the ugly stick use 2 pound line. Also some guides are just small. I think a 3mm inner ring is manageable, but my my major craft with 2.3mm guides was just too much for my nerves.I am buying a high end st croix rod next just because it has good size guides. They are still light because they are torzite/titanium, but have decent ring size
@@ifishcatfish after you get the rod do a comparison video and breakdown. Thanks
Too late for comparison. I gave my majorcraft rod away.. But u bet there will be a review. Probably some comparison too, but with whats in my head..
Could micro guide be used with a spinning reel?
Most of my spinning reels have micro guides
💯 Sensitivity is the only good thing about micro guides. All else is crap.
: )
Damn I feel like i just got tricked into buying an overpriced rod now that ive used the Gloomis E6x then compared it to the Fenwick HMX where I couldnt tell the difference then struggle to cast it far.
But compared to my cheap Daiwa Acculite rod, the Daiwa Acculite Rod makes casting far way easier.
Seeing this vid confirms my sanity. The bottom line for me is that the more expensive rods are lighter compared to the cheap ones.
most of it is weight
@@ifishcatfish sigh, i should have not listened to the hype the other channels are saying that so called expensive rods make you feel the bites better compared to others, when its all about just how light it is.
The way they make it sound as if it has magical properties that cheaper rods dont have.
well sensitivity is better in general too. But I don't think that u can't feel the bites at all with cheap rods. I fished cheap rods most of my life and felt the bites just fine. Yes, it is easier with light carborn rods.. but its not like u catch more fish. Mostly expensive rods are about pleasure... light, pretty, sensitive... but u catch the same amount of fish as cheap rods
Diggin the content Victor. Just picked up a few Daiwa Procyon pcyn711ulfs models have them paired with the Legalis lt 2500 spooled with suffix 2 pound nanobraid aqua camo and I believe this setup has that magic 🪄 feeling you speak of. I’m a Oregon angler that targets everything from salmon and steelhead to perch and crappie from alpine lakes, creeks and river to valley bottom reservoirs and ocean surf. Crappie are my favorite by far too hunt and eat so if you’re ever in southern Oregon look me up.
Ps: can’t wait to see rope some Tennessee slabs
you and me both
I have a lurmatic shimano rod With micro rings and shimano stella reel size 1000
I fish in salt water using the Japanies Ajing method. And I have come a long way with thick threads
My poor thing: I have to go through thin threads in Japanese sizes that's 0.3PE ,This is difficult and requires good hands to tie the braid line to the fluorocarbon I use the Fg knot which he manages to get through in guides very well.
My peak with Pe 0.3 is this Blue runner weighing 1,800Kg.
All of my attempts with thicker threads have failed. But once I learned to work with 0.3pe it's just a tremendous thrill
Yes. Thin line is the only way to go. U have one more advantage because u cast long distance and u can swing hard. But if u cast short distance it is harder.. the line wont go through without a big swing with the rod
@@ifishcatfish thats true i swing hard 30 meter maximum whith 1.5g jighead
Excellent break down and well explained. love your videos :)
I love everything about this, you're either fundamentally scientifically minded or you're just that invested in fishing rods (Id say the former is more likely.) Great breakdown; makes perfect sense and the best of marketing couldn't argue against it.
thanks for dropping a line bud
Hate how micro guides get braided line wrapped around them. You can't just give them a shake to untangle the guide, like you can with k guides. I'm stuck on k guides right now but willing to always give other guides a shot on custom rods.
I still have micro guides on a couple of rods where i use nothing but 2 pound line..
I can vouch for the claim that Michael guides cast further. It's physics. With micro guys online stays straighter when casting and doesn't slap around therefore the cast further and I notice it every time I use my rods that have them. You have to use the right lures though. With micro guides preferably the lures you're using should be a little on the heavy side meaning anywhere from a quarter ounce and up.
So u are worried about line touching the blank, but not worried about the coils having to go through micro guides??
Hello, great video.
I’m into Feeder fishing, I know it’s different than spinning, but still about Micro guide… and casting distance..
I usually fishing with 14ft Matrix xpro distance 150gr rod, having some 13-16 guides/ I don’t remember right now..
And I’m fishing usually with 10 lb mono/ 0.26 and i use 50 lb braid leader, Uni to Uni knots.. Still I can cast some 120meters with this setup..
And I’m using a very big carp coil Daiwa basia 45, something like 65mm + spool diameter and the first guide has some 19mm inside diameter…
Anyway seems you can add to your experience about Micro guide..
Take care 👏
i don't think you have micro guides. They are just small. You think they are micro, until you see a japanese ultralight rod.
@@ifishcatfish well, I measured, first 7 guide from top have inner diameter of 4mm..
Idk if it’s small or micro but I will say it’s pretty amazing for 14 rings on a rod starting from 19mm to 4mm to cast such long distance…
Micro guides are mostly deaigned for braid not mono
i don't know if whoever designed them will agree with you. But i would agree its easier to use them with thin braid, because it is softer and still strong enough. Using them with mono - u have to work with 0.12mm line, and thats just too much risk
The field and stream 6ft 1in tech lite rod has micro guides the rod has 10 guides and rod is 59.00 dollars i use it for 20in plus trout.
Micro?? Probably just small...
Finally the video i waited sooooo long ! Thanks.
thanks boss. and thanks for taking the time to drop a line. these things count for me
I bought my first casting rod and it was a USA made one with micro guides and I hate it, reason being if your not extremely careful they brake more easily then any other type of guide, there also so micro that the line touches the blank when it’s loaded up.
Very nice information. Thanks for sharing. Great video
Marshall, thanks brother!
Very imfomative Analysis Victor I use German Gliss line very slippery stuff hello from Australia..
LOVE hearing from down under! I have seen the gliss line - yes, perfectly smooth..
Hello,nice video as usually...would be interesting to see in one of your vids a Zenaq spinning rod with RG guides on it (regarding the cast distance).I’m saying this because those are a lot of micro guides which theoretically cast incredibly further (as producer and many users say) and that they are more safe to use also on windy weather compared to normal(or K guide rings)..if that’s true than maybe the laws of physics can be broken ..all the best and keep doing what you’re doing..you are awesome 🙂👍
The laws of physics can only be broken in the Marketing world, but not in real world.
@@ifishcatfish 👍😄
Good throughly enlightments review , micro guides may shines under certain conditions in my opinion , smaller diameter spools thus smaller coils , the first n the second guides those tend to take the most line frictions before the line begins to straiten up with rest as possible , it is more about line straitness than line frictions n well desinge rod may aproach to such possible results . Btw the best surf rods don't use micro guides ! still true about the manufacturers hype tho .
I come from european carp fishing. Carp rods for long distance explicitly advertise larger guides. Normally carp rods have a 40 mm first guide, but sometimes they put a 50mm for the long distance rods and then they advertise it. Even in Daiwa and Shimano catalogs for 2020 I found they advertise the 50mm first guide when i did my research. In all honesty i found videos of pro bass anglers who even though use baitcasters say micro guides are BS for casting... so there are some folks out there who u can fool with the advertisement and the videos, but when u give them the rods in the hand u can't fool any more because they have to make living out of that
What a great topic for slow motion video to show how line flows through different guide types and sizes. Maybe you should contact Smartereveryday channel to see if he would run this experiment. I think this extreme option/feature of a product is just another marketing scheme invented to make a solution for a need that just does not exist and sell more product.
Good Topic :)
i also thought micro guide werent a good idea. thank you for this video explaining why with only facts.
The Borat of the Pond has spoken
I've gotten that before, actually. Pretty good insult, but honestly doesn't bother me at all. Not gona delete this comment either.
Excellent video, thank you for sharing.
thanks buddy
great video love your explanations
thanks bud. and thanks for taking the time to scroll down and drop a line. It really counts
Great Video. I never really thought about this.
thank you mr Steve, I appreciate!
that is the video I want to watch :)
enjoy
Interesting. Good info
Very informative and excellent comparison!
thanks for taking the time to drop a line!
A used car off the lot will not win a NASCAR race. You need to pick the right tool for the job. I think if you look at the information Fuji has produced on the KR Concept for spinning guides you will find the come to similar conclusions. Heavier lines call for larger guides. I would also ask, do you want to fish for crappies with a spinning rod designed for 14# line?
you seem to be arguing against something in the video. If that is the case - quote the piece that you disagree with. I spent 30 % of the video describing the benefits of micro guides, and discussed them again in the summary. My whole grind is against these absurd absurd statements, like casting farther and whatnot. That's like taking credit for the flaws of your product. But i was very clear that if you stick to thin lines and you want the magic feeling, you will need micro guides.
Duckett rods have micro guides
guides they make rods for bait caster
I have actually tried those. Very light, but blanks is very bassy feeling
Good info here.
Sadly I have no spinning rods with micro guides.
I have plenty with semi-micro guides though. They dont seem to be as restrictive.
well i think they are the best!
yeah, the knots are a problem, otherwise for vertical jigging casting is not a problem. Minima makes titanium guides that are super light but have good diameter. Those are my favorite.
Micro guides should be stronger because the point of pressure is closer to the rod
Good point. Less extended frame = less flex.
Yap. Micro guides are for UL finesse fishing and thats it. P. S. Good video
Guides are measured in 1/64th inch increments. So a 4 is 4/64 inches. 4.5 is 4.5/64 inches...
but when i go to buy them, they show ONLY in milimeters?
www.mudhole.com/Components-Rod-Building/rod-guides-components/spinning-fishing-rod-guides
@@ifishcatfish I mistyped I meant to say the tip top guides. It is in correlation to the diameter of the tip of the rod blank.
give me example. In my last review i compare a st croix rod with 4mm guide vs abu garcia rod with 1mm guide. Both ultralight. How do i interpret that?
@@ifishcatfish well they’re measured by the inside diameter of the frame, same as the outside diameter of the ring in millimeters. But like I said tip tops have 2 measurements ring size in millimeters and tube size 1/64th inch. Stripper guides are the most important guide when it comes to line management. That’s the guide closest to the reel. The beauty of micro guides is the lack of weight put on the blank. More weight = less crisp, sloppy action. You can also put more guides on the same size blank.
that's not the only beauty. I mentioned all the beauties. As well as all the ugly.
This sounds like the contradictory marketing of "RED" Use RED line it disappears under water. Then we got. Use RED hooks so the fish can see you bait better. Marketing wank.
exactlly! I always thought the same about red. Why don't i just use clear line? It doesn't even have to disappear!
Thanks for showing content like the circle hooks and rod guides.
Thanks buddy
I got a kuying Teton ttc510s man you talking small they’re small
how do u like it? i got all the chinese ones except this one
Interesting.... very interesting
alright..
Hmmmm interesting!
ok : )
If micro guides were better for casting distance, the guides would be all be the same small size, starting at the reel. They aren’t, and no one sells a spinning rod with this feature. Reductio ad absurdum. QED.
argument looks good to me. They are smaller, hence cheaper, they are lighter, hence rod feels better, if they ALSO cast better, why on earth would anyone put a big guide on a rod..
Оооо, ты просто отстал от жизни, посмотри на кольца в спиннингах Tict.
I want to get a Tict one day, but you people need to watch a lot of videos before i can make it happen
@@ifishcatfish сейчас в ultralight самый лучший gamakatsu luxxe yoihime hanna. Tict это вчерашний день.
link please?
Victor, an excellent video on micro guides. I have a 2013 St Croix Legend Extreme rod with micro guides. It's an excellent rod, but those micro guides can freeze in cold weather and get easily clogged with debris. It's my fair-weather rod and rarely gets used. I will be selling it in the future. There's a TH-camr fishing with his micro guide rod in cold weather, and it caused him so much grief. It was funny because I know the feeling and frustration. Have you considered making a video on the variety of rod guides (The great, the good, and the terrible) and which rod guides you prefer on a rod? I don't see much information on rod guides which are critical components of a rod.
i am not familiar with all guides. I am not really a guides expert, but micro guides in particular i have fished a lot and have analyzed carefully and made a video, but it would be tough to talk about all guides. There is hundreds of guides out there..
@@ifishcatfish Well, kudos to your excellent presentation on micro guides. I thought you could expand on the rod guides theme focusing on what you like to see on fishing rods you own, have owned, and what you look for in rod guides when you buy a fishing rod for the type of fishing you do. I am just throwing it out there for your consideration as you do have expertise in that specific field and possess practical user knowledge.