Best Operating Systems for Hacking?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ธ.ค. 2019
- What operating system do hackers use for ethical hacking, pentesting, ...?
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How would you rate the click-bait of the thumbnail and title between 1-10?
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1/10 real hackers chant hymns to appease the Omnissiah.
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Hacking isn't about OS, it's about the amount of stickers you can slap on a laptop before the hinges give out.
youre wrong real hackers is about how edgy your Hoodie is
8-Bit Bug wrong too, its about the amount of green in your room
pfft real hacker replaces broken hinge with more stickers.
Real hackers are seen with laptops running windows and get caught not knowing how to shut the computer down.
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No matter what Linux we use, we all end up reading arch wiki 🤣
There are 3 stages to becoming an Ubuntu / any other distro master.
1. Reading random websites that can help us with our problem
2. Reading distro-specific forum
3. Reading arch wiki
Exactly! Arch Wiki is the only good thing about Arch! This is fine joke distro for writing good documentation, but people misunderstood it and starde actual;ly using it. :D
@@justanotherpotatobeingpotato When I was in high school I bought this Magazine with Gentoo DVD, after many trials and about week later, I was really surprised That I managed to get It going; with KDE3 and everything. :) That was the most stable Linux desktop I had at that time! Of course after a while I broke it severely, didn't know how to fix it and didn't had in me to start it over again. After that, installing arch wasn't like painful to me it was just pointless and annoying. Seriously if you thinking about taking that route, just install Gentoo - you will learn useful stuff about your CPU and compilation in general. Otherwise just install something that works as best as it can, there are enough problems with Linux desktop already, you don't want to deal with arch BS on top of all that...
The arch wiki has helped me twice. But getting Linux+ and then just using it regularly gave me the most help. Ubuntu forums help a ton for weird anomalies. But I use Kali mostly. And it's Debian. So arch forums never have my answer in the top results.
@@maciej-36 At the end of the day, distro choice is not that important. I personally use arch cause I can't live without the AUR, and Arch is hardly a joke distro lol
Don't lie to the people, we don't even use operating systems we just tell our cpus what to do in verilog.
You probably meant poking the circuitry with a live wire to input instructions (duh)
@@agma Linus be like, poke it with a screwdriver.
hah these skids, real hackers use Hannah Montana Linux.
I can't believe that's a real thing.
@@mcrazy2080 you live on the backside of the moon? Hannah Montana Linux is the only real hacking OS.
Woosh
Grey Code with a linux kernel from like 2009 lol
Jessica Black Linux
real hackers can hack using your grandma’s virus infested computer running windows 69
Truth lmao
unless msfconsole is available
you are dreaming
Noice.
@みやぞのさくら No they can hack while they are sleeping
I'm running Arch Linux.
Also I'm vegan in case anyone wondered.
hahahahaha perfect joke
You forgot to mention that you're an atheist.
ArchLinux + i3, I wasted so much time configuring it.
But it's fun to have a completely personalized operating system that only you know how to use, it's something that you can't get on Windows/macOS, where the most you can do is change the desktop background or now choose a dark theme.
How to tell if someone is using arch?
They are like vegans, they tell you.
you forgot you do crossfit and sell herbalife products
I am since about 30 years in the IT Business, did everything from software development to Systems, Networks and IT-Security. I use even in the professional field all available operating systems. Each one has advantages and disadvantages, and if one can't select the right OS for the task, then they should consider a different profession. These religious wars have no place in professional IT.
On the issue of Kali: It is convenient for most people. The tools are available and curated, but there is a huge overhead of tools that most people will never use nor need, many even redundant. What good is it to have 20 different tools (mostly GUIs), which in the end just use nmap as their base? Or 20 different network scanners that do pretty much the same? Kali is good for people who follow some shady tutorials step by step, but don't care about learning how the tools work and how they can achieve the same result with a single tool. IT is and never was about the tools you use, it is about how you use them and how capable you are to work with the data they produce.
I think, if there isn't, there should be some version of kali just with basics so we don't have to install these GUIs and other not useful crap. Just text editor some basic utilities like gdb radare maybe ghirda or IDA, binwalk, few web browsers 3 or 4 most common shells so you don't have to install every time zsh or fish. You can add Nmap some android tools are optional, GCC python of course. node.js? Basic versatile stuff that can get us to what needs to be done.
As far as i understand (not that i understand much about it), Kali Linux isn't just a convenient collection of tools. It also has some tweaking done under the surface to make it more secure and quiet towards the outside world. I'm sure any Linux distro can be tweaked in the same way, but not many are capable of that.
what would you recommend to someone learning? i'm about a month in and have been using Parrot OS. once i am more experienced i plan on trying a bunch of them but for now my skill level isnt high enough to identify the differences so i figured i'd try finding a beginner friendly one to start
@@tentaclemommy36 pls bro help me to select an os for learning more about cyber security and stuff like that
"Don't try to argue with me because I have no damn clue what I'm talking about" Me during a math test
"It doesn't change that I like to click on it."
I've never been a fan of Mac but at least you have your priorities straight.
I appreciate how raw and genuine you are! You tell it like it is and your videos have a very authentic feel to them. Nothing seems overproduced or like you're trying to prove something. Just sharing your passion for IT Security. Great work!!
linux: main hacking os
mac: anoing repairs
windows: *VIDEOGAMES*
true as hell, whenever I work with linux all I think is about how to do this and that using terminal. But whenever I work with windows I always got distracted with my games :)
windows is just fine for hacking... lmao
@@deud1eskrub503 it is, but it was difficult to set things up unless you want to spend 30 minutes session just to install a hacking tool that you could just download with Linux CLI for 5 mins
@@wilbur4235 ye fair enough
People need to stop WINEing about games being only on Windows. Their complaints have about as much weight as a PROTON.
Everything single thing you said in the video exactly describes my thoughts on operating systems. Scary. I guess the more experience you have with OSes you just fall into this natural workflow of using whatever tool suits every job best.
You should try Arch though. I picked it up when I was experimenting with gaming on Linux, because the best and most recent instructions on setting things up were for Arch.
Turns out it's pretty much the easiest distro I've ever used, simply because of the wealth of updated info in the wiki. The Arch wiki is amazing.
lots of people hate/make fun of arch, but there is not a single person i have ever heard criticizing the wiki
Kali is useful on pentesting, I put it on my vmware and I never spend one second to configure it, just check out the tools or do a quick test. I like Arch because of the wiki docs and the pre-configure for the packages, it absolutely saved me a a lot of time.
Well, I run Kali and it really got me going and learning how things should be set up and gave me a base
I was waiting since the start of the video for you to mention a sponsor, and it finally happened!
At the end of the video "Ok boomer" just got out of my mouth unintentionally.
Kali is a toolbox.
That's it.
Best for use on quick installs when u don't have time to think in advance what you may need. Radare is present. I think gdb is present. Some command-line utilities are present. Just install some usable text editor and slap your favourite shell. Bloated for that but never found anything better.
bloat is a myth, just use all unused system resources. /s
This adds nothing to the topic. Kali is a godsend. We don't give a shit about what you can do, you passed the interview or got the contract, now you need to be productive. Kali offsets the productivity you lose using office 3fiddy products. It is that fucking good. It moves tons of data and the tools are ready to go. People don't really argue about what is good. The list of good stuff goes on forever, we all know. You don't build your resume with that anyways, you build it with the papers you write from the projects you do.
@@aerodigital Not everyone needs Kali though. There are some situations and some jobs where Kali makes sense. Most people who are learning or dicking around at home just don't need Kali.
@@kneesnap1041 depends on what you are learning. I learned more about routing and switching with kali. I learned more about encryption and password cracking with kali. I learned more about OSINT and recon with kali. I learned people are assholes playing everquest on windows.
I have only a small interest in programming, haven't done any hacking.
I watch this channel just because you produce good content, and especially recently you're becoming a better entertainer and ofcourse educator.
keep up the good work man, I'll keep on watching!
man, i luv when u making videos, good job!
Really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to teach us about cybersecurity. I also like that you are uploading almost every day now. Gives me something to look forward too.
He's not taking the time out of his day to teach us... You know, he makes money out of it. I'm not saying you shouldn't be grateful to his help, but only that being helpful is one of his jobs.
A lot of my IT friends who wanted to casually learn hacking has installed Kali atleast once in their life and then forgot about it. I stuck with it and now am getting into RE and Malware Analysis to get a job in this exciting field and I majorly work with Windows debuggers and disassemblers now. Lol.
There is little you can't do with either OS. I reckon it's mostly about familiarity with the tools. Although I would say that some tasks are easier on linux because of the extensive documentation and integration into the shell.
@@maxinator80ify Agreed. Generally windows tools themselves lack intuitive documentation IMO, and I blame the occasional unhelpful nature of MSDN articles for that. In Linux apt-get is a lifesaver because of dependency hell, while on Windows you have to be mindful of what additional resources you need to have to install a tool. My personal observation at least.
Awesome video, as always!
Your Videos are really great 👌🏻
[insert "let me interject for a moment" copypasta here]
Also BTW I use Arch
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Zalán Tóth I use arch BTW
Btw
@@tthzln9871 DT is so cringe sometimes. But he smart.
Amen. Every tool has a fitting purpose. That's it.
kvms on linux: hold my beer
I was nodding already before one minute. Great stuff, dude.
Thankyou all frient. Veri good info
I’ve used all 4 major oses (yes even chromeos) for at least 3 years each in the past 2 decades and currently I’m on Linux and have found it the best fit for me. They all have their pros and cons but I’ve stuck around for kde and the coding tools and the terminal in general.
Try FreeBSD
I love KDE, but man sometimes it's buggy
„I don't like change.“
OK Boomer
WOW I'm early, love your videos man.
For the same reason a somefriends bought a mac and I starting using mac too. After a while I move to windows with kali. Nice video.
Manjaro with blackarch repositories works for me perfectly
Thank you for showing me some new way I can have my quick vms not bloated and running best operating system on the world (Manjaro
@@TKDMwastaken I had this setup for a while but I found ArcoLinux + Blackarch repo working better. If I recall, some packages didn't run properly on Manjaro but run perfectly now.
9:05 Haha, Yeah, That's my experience with Arch in one sentence! :D
Best video ive seen of its kind. By far.
So genuine and to the point
1 week 5 videos? awesome!!!
You should check out WSL(2) on Windows. It's basically a full Linux environment directly in Windows.
cool ,its like VirtualBox ..
i like that
HAHAHA I feel just the same way mate. Good video!
Massive breadbord project on your desk. Do you do electronics videos too?
thanks for honesty =)
I still use a Linux vm that's dedicated to CTFs 😂 the VM fits on a USB so it follows me around between work stations.
Nice! That's really cool!
*Seeing a good youtuber using clickbait is like : *
But it's a good click bait
@@doragonmeido Yeah ! I clicked too..😅
I believe that Apple improved the window arranging in Catalina. Have you tried it out or does Moom still give you some advantages?
The creativity from limited resources part is most definitely true. If not because of my old zyrex POS laptop i probably wouldn't have any interest in computer stuff now let alone cyber security stuff
just manually provide electrical signals to the CPU 4head
offtopic question: is a college degree useful when i want to get into security? there is 0 security related courses at my college...
Deepends on how much word processing you plan to do.
Imo its really useful. Computer science or network engineering are probably better than itsec for a major because they allow you to understand how the it world works which is crucial for being a good security professional and they don't close you up in security in case you want to back off in the future
@k0p the thing is my college doesnt even have that major. other thing is if it did i got no time to study for exams and stuff right
@@blackklopi2497 any Computer Science Program is gonna be useful for getting into Security. You need a good understanding of programming and infrastructure as a whole to go pro.
@k0p yeah. the other colleges are either half the country away or in a whole different country. i realized after the first semester that the college im in rly sucks. not only the content but also the professors. i have a professor who has "over 30 years of work experience" but is not able to use 10 finger system when on a pc....
Thank you. This video rests my case to use multiple OSes
I use a windows laptop for my job, use an android phone because I like it, have an apple ipad, and run different linux distro's for my servers (including Kali for CTF's). Just use what is best for the job or what you like
I think Kali is an amazing distro for pentesters but I always try to steer people that want to learn hacking away from it.
There are a lot of tools in there by default and that's kind of the strength and weakness of kali for hackers.
For experienced hackers that already know their way around Linux (like compiling and troubleshooting tools) it's great since they can skip all that stuff and get to it, but a lot of people that I have met that want to learn hacking start out with kali while only knowing how to click things.
They start to rely on Kali to do anything but don't know what they are doing in the slightest... an old student of mine tried to hack my laptop (he wanted to show off his "skills" but just gave me a giggle as he tried to hack my SSH) but while doing so, he accidentally tried hacking all other machines in the network as well (without success because I quickly took action to that)...
They just click shit without knowing what the tool does... when you have to install it yourself still, you often need to read through the documentation to figure out what it does, which can prevent those cases.
Hey based on my experience, I'm gonna respectfully disagree. I used to get mad at people who used to say that if you want to get into programming, start with Python. I believed that Python has too much abstraction and you wont understand what's really happening behind the scenes. I told people start with learning microprocessors and assembly. I realised my mistake when ALL of the kids that took my advice dropped programming in a few months. The sheer complexity was off putting. Sometimes, it's better to start easy and then go into the deep end.
@@skolarii No offense, but starting with learning microprocessors and assembly is just stupid advice tbf...
That's throwing someone new into something really deep already.
With hacking, it's a bit different...
By telling them to learn the Linux basics first, you aren't throwing them too deeply, you're literally telling them to RTFM.
There is a major gap between telling them to learn basic compiling and some basic Linux before they go around and try to hack everything like a skid without knowing anything about what they are doing and telling them to do arguably one of the most difficult things with a computer right of the bat.
Yes, I've also seen a lot of people dropping out with my advice but in hindsight, it actually was for the best.
It helped me filter out the people that didn't give a flying fuck about learning to hack and just wanted to hack to impress their friends or only have malicious intents...
One of the last people that wanted to learn hacking from me was one of those people... wanted to hack everything (going as far as me being legally able to put him behind bars if I so desired) just to impress people (it's kinda his entire thing tho... wanting to show off everything but doing no effort for it).
Hello, I'm using arch btw
I ALWAYS get asked why I also use Windows, Mac & Linux all at once and I finally found someone who understands why and now I'm linking this video to all my friends because of this video explains it fully xD Thank you, for the love of god.. thank you! xD
I see your motivational points, still if we can afford the right equipment much more can be done and faster, I already know what I want for my next machine.
“Most malware runs on Windows”
xD)
regarding programming stuff on your phone:
I just use vim + ycm for all the programming I have to do. So most of the time I just ssh into my main system with termux on my phone and program away while I am on my way to uni and back home. Kills the time super fast, is super convenient with a small keyboard and just looks silly to others around you.
One of the benefits of living mainly on the commandline.
I use ar(s)ch btw
höhöhöhöhöhöhöhöhöhö........ arsch
I gave a LIKE for the man's honesty!
You say a lot about liking the Mac trackpad, I can kinda understand this. I haven't used it myself or really ever used a mac but I use a trackball and absolutely love it and the comfort it provides so I totally get it.
A: any linux distro you like that's running an LTS kernel
Arch for me, extremely simple and fast.
Wait, No one using DOS
I am from 1978
Some use FreeDOS
Man, you really read my mind word by word. ♥️
since you know a little bit of python I wanted to ask if you use any particular plugin in vs code? Maybe I find some cool plugins I might need for myself. ^^
Apex Legends??? Real people play Fortnite...🤣🤣
Good video btw
"I tried Arch Linux, but I'm too stupid and impatient for it" LOL exactly my story :D tried it once and got back to Debian almost immediately :D just because I started with it. Force of Habbit I guess ...
Manjaro is for you lmao, its arch based but is more user friendly
@@imgladnotu9527 Thank you, will try it in the near future ^-^
@@imgladnotu9527 Doesn't that sort of defeat the point of Arch? :p
@@Reelix while arch is has bleeding edge apps, it takes some time & non-newbie knowledge to set it up.
manjaro tries to take the bleeding edge(a bit slower, but it's trivial) & create a user-friendly out-of the-box install.
well that's my oversimplified explanation between their difference
You definitely don't need to be smart to use arch. The patience part is true though. Using arch is nothing more than just reading the wiki and googling error messages when you inevitably fuck something up.
I feel you bro! At the same stage in IT security and same age well I guess. Now all we want is some peace of mind! :D PS i have switched back to a clean ubuntu after 9 years . Windows is just irritating with their updates these days.
I'm loving this kind of videos :B
REAL HACKERS USE THE ORIGINAL UNIX!
Real programmers use a magnetic needle, clean room and an open hard drive
Real hackers manually inject binary code trough the cpu
Real programmers use abacus
I pipe TempleOS into Windows 11 and then SSH into a Mac server before UDP'ing into my secret cloud hackmosphere.
This process involves at least one laughing ASCII skull
@@Apoc2K
Bro I built a rice with that game in mind lol
Thanks for the video ... For me (beginner)
Can you make a list of the tools that u use?
My approach so far: MacOS for iOS and other Unix things, Linux for researching and pretty much vastly greater amount of libraries to install, Windows only for gaming, sadly :/
Vyce Merculous That’s pretty accurate
@@IsaiahGamers MacOS sucks for POSIX things. If you want to taste a real UNIX experience, use FreeBSD. Actually, Linux is better than MacOS being "Unix".
And yeah, windows sucks
The way he said "Real Hackers use kali Linux" 🤣🤣🤣🤣😜😜😜😆
The amount of emojis you used hurt my soul.
I just came to UwU
very helpful video, can you make a video about hosts file in windows and how to make your own custom hosts file when we are using some cheat for games ? thanks
I was expecting you to do a skit about tails when you at the start there.
0:26 what kind of "programmer" uses light theme in windows? instant unsub /s
anyways, is the 8 bit computer project on a pause? because it's really evil to show it in the background without new videos on it. :c
For what piece are these notes on the piano?
Okn but when you build your fresh os which kernel? / os base u use? beastie at all?
And that Apex part was pretty important too.
when i started college i was running a windows laptop with a linux live USB, far from optimal, but it was everything i needed
Please make more videos about heap exploitation and writeups about heap exploitation, i really need those xD
what is that circuit with led indicators and all?
For Linux, I use Ubuntu for the longest time, partly because I installed it first (and probably the easiest to install) and I am now familiar with all the system tools (apt-get, dpkg, ...). A lot of my friends uses Arch and Majaroo though. If I need a lightweight Linux VM for testing or for a VPS, I will choose Debian, which is sometimes more stable than Ubuntu and in my opinion the most stable and well supported distribution.
have you ever tried out qubes os? in a nutshell you have multiple app vms that rely on template vms ( easy to update all at once ) you have firewall/tor/proxy/vpn/sandbox vms out of the box and you can use all sorts of linuxes inside the vms or run HVMs ( to run windows based OSs ). Maybe not a recommondation for the new guy
qubes requires good hardware and a lot of tweaking to make it work really well, but when you get it working in your flow well its amaizing
Hey. A quick one about zsh. I like the command prompt with git integration. Can you tell us, what's that?
Making a operating system is a great way of learning low level hacking, because you understand how a operating system works behind the scenes
Have you thought about switching to vim for your main editor?
As long as it ain't Emacs.
(Neo)Vi(m(proved)) is a text editor.
Emacs is a failed operating system.
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Everyone i've talked to professionally about macos either prefer it for it being unix, but not linux, or because of the damn trackpad(me included). It IS amazing.
Well now there is the windows subsystem for linux. That is amazing, because, as you said, vms are slow. wsl isn't. I personally like using vsCode to write c programs and bash stuff, because it can tie directly into the wsl to edit files, has a terminal for compiling and running scripts. Dualboot is not really necessary anymore.
Hi. The german "Anleitung für Einsteiger" guide in the arch wiki is way better than the english one. Also this reminds me of the hidden devixe in school video in which half of the time was wasted for searching a way to mount ext4 in Windows.. while there was an easy way described in the german ubuntu wiki that could easily be found via searched engines.
You know multiple languages, so use them.
For reverse engineering I mostly use a Ubuntu VM and for windows binaries a Windows VM (I'm very bad with windows binaries). Also as my main OS I use elementary OS, since it is clean and fast and consumes less resources. Sometimes for HTB machines I use Kali vm
same here, os that works in the situation
l like kali for rolling releases and use it in dual boot.
Is that an 8-bit breadboard computer by Ben eater?
Realy cool video!
Just a neat toolbox can select from would do most job though. :P
I just use Kali; usually has everything I need and I can skip installing it myself. For beginners I think I'd still recommend it becuase it's what sparks curiosity. Failing to compile something on github or dealing with dependencies can steer someone away.
Like reading books, I dont like reading in itself, but I like to leverage knowledge and skills obtained by a book. Without knowing why I read I would not read.
But that's my perspective.
Personally for Linux and Mac I use /bin/fish and OMF (oh my fish) same power line looking terminal however with auto complete and better aliasing
Couldn't have said it better ❤
Actually its not only about the OS its about the skills and your devices, I suggest that if you get the hang of it that you should make your own pentesting OS, like on what I made like kali linux and ubuntu it is a debian based OS and as an advantage since I was the one that made it you will know if it works and if not you know how to fix it.
what about ubuntu or debian under WSL? because it is almost a full linux but probably that difference to a real linux is a key disadvantage
The best advice I have heard. I'll just use whatever feels right.
How you get funds to continue your research?