The best Traction Control explanation ever. I am one of those people that benefitted from Jeff's demonstration going uphill. Thanks for thinking of us. Much appreciated.
I am an older driver that knows how to use the gas pedal to control slippage, but you have to pay attention to what your drive wheels are doing in icy or snowy conditions.
I'm the same as you,and live in a cold climate where there's snow. Thru my life I always pumped the brakes moderately, and adjusted how much gas to give the car. I don't like the traction control at all, because it interferes with how I've driven in snowy or icy conditions. I always turn it off. I just don't like it. Foe those who are scared to drive in these conditions, I think it would be great. A lot of women would like this feature, in my opinion. I just don't like the "system" automatically pumping my brakes when I've already started to do it manually.
I was going up on a very shallow, but iced-over incline coming out of a parking lot. Having to stop at the top to check for traffic, my vehicle was simply unable to pull out on the road...my front-wheel drive just kept slipping. Cars were coming up behind me, but I was simply not going anywhere, and the front wheels were just spinning. When the vehicles behind me came around me and clear out, I got thought, "Well, lets try it," and turned off my traction control. Lo and behold, my vehicle moved forward without any issue and I got onto the road...totally surprised me: the traction control was working against me.
Right it does the opposite of what it's supposed to do for me too. My car has always slipped really bad in wet weather. When I finally started pushing on that traction control button and turning the traction OFF THATS when my car finally stopped slipping. So I always turn it off now. PLUS I noticed I stopped losing air in my tires everyday finally just from going over any little bump or dip in the road... with that default traction control button turned off. It's worst for me so I keep it off all of the time now
well my traction control is always on but then my tires were very slippery today as I drive in the rain . it was quite scary and I wondered if there was something wrong with my tires or the trac control 😦
It’s important to know how your traction control works as they’re different per manufacturer, and to know how invasive they are. It makes a difference in how it’ll help you in various situations. The C5, maybe even the C4, Corvette had a great traction/launch control that could get a novice driver to do perfectly 1/4 miles runs. My E46 M3’s system hinders it drastically by cutting engine power for a few seconds where the pedal basically goes dead to my inputs…that has caused some scares when pulling out into traffic where getting on the throttle and accelerating moderately is key, but when my tires slipped on some water or gravel (or this time I had not very grippy tires) traction control kicked in and I made less than ideal progress and pissed off a few drivers. My system works great in snow with proper tires though. The Mercedes ML320 in the 90’s had a good system of AWD that applied braking power to a slipping wheel to transfer power other wheels, that’s a system you’d leave on for that hill example.
My wife has a Subaru Outback with single stage Xmode, which causes the front wheels and the rear wheels to work together. Kind of like a posi traction rear end . In a Subaru stage 1, is called Snow and Dirt mode. It’s great for pulling away from a light on lightly snow covered roads or if it’s patchy snow, ice and pavement. I have Dual Xmode on my Subaru Forester Touring. The Fist stage ; snow and dirt responds just like her Outback, but stage 2 in my Forester is for Deep Snow and Mud. This program takes the traction control Off, allowing each wheel to spin faster independently. And yes having the traction control off is a blast for cutting donuts in a large parking lot covered in snow and ice.
Good video! This happened to me where I got stuck in the snow with my 2017 Altima and trying to get out of the snow didn't work since the power was cut from the wheels; turned TC off and I was able to rock back and forth out of the spot. It was a one time deal but saved me from a tow :)
Well, well, well... so that's what happened to me. Had a truly horrible experience on a long, steep incline road during a sudden snowstorm 5 years ago. Car just kept slipping backwards down the hill and I was too far up to let it slide all the way back down. I fought it for almost 10 minutes before getting to the top. If I had only known. I suspected something when I noticed how much my car hates the ECT button on my own driveway at home - that's why I watched this video! Well, thank you now.
Wow. Thank you both for the explanation! I have a very hard time going up the steep hill to my house when there's ice or snow. I got stuck several times
In some vehicles, pushing that button, and seeing the indicator on the dashboard is no guarantee that the system is actually disabled. I was instructed to park a trailer in a yard area that was very soggy, and the 4X4 RAM 3500 began spinning the wheels. Even after unhooking the trailer and shutting off the TC, I could feel the system interfering with my efforts to get out of the muddy, deepening tire tracks. I referred to the manual and pulled the fuse which protects the system. The truck drove out almost immediately. Sometimes engineers are tricky; they only let you *think* that you have control, but they're still involved.
Thanks you so much for making this video!! In November I purchased a used 2021 Renegade (27k miles) with a 1.4 (4 cyl) that is automatic. If you move the transmission lever to the left it has 1 & 2 on it) This past week in Iowa we had 3 major snow storms. I had trouble in the 'snow' 4WD drive mode as I couldn't get started in my own driveway!! I tried the Auto 4WD and Snow 4WD with the tires spinning and basically I had to rock it back and forth and I finally got out. The traction control was on. I realize some of it could also be the kind of tires that is on it. IMO the 'electronic' 4WD systems have ruined the mechanical 4WD. I had a 2006 Jeep Liberty with a 3.7 V6 and 17 inch tires. The 4WD mechanical lever in the vehicle had 4 Hi and 4 Lo and I could go anywhere with it!! After this past week I was missing my Liberty and regretting getting my Renegade BUT I will try your suggestion!! Thanks, Duane
this was awesome--I've always wondered about this issue, and now I know. Snow banks, steep uphills--easy to remember. Donuts in a snowy parking lot sounds like fun, unless under the snow there are parking blocks at the end of each parking space. Probably not a good to hit those when doing donuts! In thinking about this further, I think I'd rather just have a doughnut, as I'll be 62 in May so I don't have that many more years to enjoy a doughnut now and then . . .
I don't like traction control,and live in a cold climate where there's snow. Thru my life I always pumped the brakes moderately, and adjusted how much gas to give the car. I don't like the traction control at all, because it interferes with how I've driven in snowy or icy conditions. I always turn it off. I just don't like it. For those who are scared to drive in these conditions, I think it would be great. A lot of women would like this feature, in my opinion. I just don't like the "system" automatically pumping my brakes when I've already started to do it manually.
Thank you guys for explaining that I had no idea about that button but now you made it very clear to me on how to use it. Have a wonderful day and thank you for the tip.🤩👍🏼
Traction control on a high performance car also wears out your tires a lot faster (unless you're intentionally burning out all the time...). Turn it on when road conditions are not optimal to help with control but in good conditions leave it off so your tires last longer.
In a bmw if you keep the traction control pressed for about 30s , it will not only disable traction control completely but also turn off the ABS. This is useful if the ABS sensor is damaged and the car goes into limited power mode. It happened to me and BMW told me to do this so that I could get to their workshop.
First time seeing either of you and you were both great separately and especially as a team. Not only was if useful information but your interactions and the cut of the video made out fun and enjoyable to watch
I'm always so excited about these add ons like traction control, terrain modes, auto cruise control, auto brakes etc...until I realise that I'm not a lazy driver and actually enjoy "driving" and having control of my vehicle. Once you gain a bit of experience, you're able to control the vehicle using the basics...like brakes, accelerator, and gears and actually have fun doing so. These are all gimmicks. Good solid and fun explanation of traction control, though, so thanks for that:)
I learned this from my mom if you are driving in snow going up And down hills put your car in a lower gear works best on roads where traffic is not driving crazy
On my 2011 Chevy sedan, if I press the button it works the same as you presented. If I hold it for 8 seconds, it will also defeat the ESC - electronic stability control - which helps to maintain the predicted (calculated) path of the vehicle.
I drove a 1987 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight for decades, and my uncle drove a 1988 Ninety Eight and his had Anti Lock breaks which was a new feature at the time only on some luxury vehicles at the time. And he didn’t know what it mean’t until he heard it kick in on an icy road one winter drive in the late 80’s.
In my friend's old truck, the traction control button was within arms reach of the passenger seat. I would occasionally turn it off. (Don't worry, road conditions were good.) The orange light would illuminate and my friend had no idea what the heck it meant. He was afraid to drive with the light on because he was afraid it would damage his vehicle. So he would pull over, shut his truck off, and restart it, which would reset it and turn the light off. To this day he had no idea it was me doing that, nor did he figure out all he had to do was press that button to turn it back on again.
My last car was in an AWD 06 Honda Element that did not have traction control. My current car is a 2023 Subaru Forester that does have a traction control button. I don't anticipate needing to turn it off very often with the Forester but it's nice to know that I can if I need to.
Thanks. 👍 Traction ON - Minimize Fishtailing on wet roads and conditions, or minimize spinning wheels by applying brakes or reducing engine power to spinning wheels Traction OFF - Help you get unstuck in snow, embankment, or hill; or if you want to do “donuts” By default, leave the traction button ON.
Here's the rule of thumb I use: 1. Traction control is to keep a car controllable in a skid. For safety, leave it on unless you have a reason not to. 2. If I'm doing something that involves going SLOW(ish) and I EXPECT skidding, turn it off. Examples: Off-roading, sand and mud, climbing a slippery incline, getting unstuck.
I had a frightening experience pulling out of a farm gravel driveway onto a highway with limited vision both ways. When a gap in the traffic occurred , I put my foot on the accelerator, the front of the car moved onto the highway then the the rear wheels stopped turning and the engine hesitated, not knowing what had happened, I was able to reverse back, just in time to prevent an accident. Then I realised it was the traction control preventing me from accelerating onto the highway, Turning it off gave me full control moving forward, even if I left a spray of gravel behind me.
I drive an off road rated 4X4 - 3 ton truck. I turn off the traction control and use the 4X4 wheel lock when going in to deep snow to park or get out of a parking spot. The truck has deep thread high traction snow/mud tires. I have no issues with snow and off road conditions. I can park on streets in winter where normal cars cannot park. I make my own parking place in the the snow. If to get stuck with this truck I would have to do something stupid or try to get stuck.
I’ve test drove the new 2024 CX-5, and all who have found the steering to be heavily weighted to steer. I have the perfect solution, Turn OFF the traction control. Now you can use 1 finger to drive your car in tight places. This is also true for my 2019 CX-3. The TCS will always revert to on when the car is turned off. So for easy steering just turn it Off again.
The button is confusing as hell no one tells you that the traction control which supposedly keeps the tires from slipping is actually ON by default on the car so pushing that button will TURN IT OFF. Not like every other button does. Any other button in the world turns the action you want on when you first push it. So I thought it was turning my traction on when i pushed it and the orange light lit up. Even though the word OFF is clearly on it. I couldnt understand why something would be off while lit up. Also when I push it THATS when my traction gets better in rainy weather. When i push it again and the light goes off my car immediately starts slipping in wet weather. So its confusing as hell
That is what a vehicle manual is for. Why would someone have to inform you of this. You are saying you would buy a brand new vehicle and not go over the manual so you know what all buttons and etc. are for.
Winter is the time to turn it off if your traction control activities at 110 kph on ice, you will be rolling in the ditch. That's a great piece of safety equipment. It happens all the time in Canada
This video confuses me because it contradicts everything the new car salesman told me regarding the traction control feature in my 2017 Subaru Legacy. Being unfamiliar with a traction control feature, I asked the salesman when I should and should not engage the traction control feature. He explained to me as follows in the next two paragraphs: While driving on paved or hard-packed gravel roads in any weather, I should leave the traction control disengaged as that would allow Subaru's computerized symmetrical intelligent all-wheel drive software to control slippage and maintain better control of the vehicle by automatically applying more power to the wheels that need it and less power to the wheels that don't. But while driving in deep mud, live sand, or trying to get out of a ditch or climb an unusually steep grade that is slippery, then I should engage the traction control feature as that would allow the engine, the transmission, and the differential to work together by applying raw gripping power to all the wheels equally for better traction, and once the vehicle has returned to normal driving conditions, then I should disengage the traction control and allow the intelligent symmetrical all-wheel drive system to take over again for best on-road control. So, since I purchased this vehicle brand new off the lot in January 2017, I have never used the traction control feature because I have never found myself in a situation like any of the ones described above. My 2017 Subaru Legacy has always performed flawlessly in our erratic New Hampshire winter weather, with the traction control feature always disengaged. This TH-cam video has caused some confusion for me, and I seek more information from my dealership. Someone is misinformed and disseminating misleading and potentially dangerous information to the public. I need to know who is right and who is wrong.
Don’t be confused sir, as you’re learning about a traction control system in this video that is inferior to the one in your Subaru. Your Subaru salesman told you correctly.
Thank you that was a big help for I've owned a Jeep for a year, my first jeep and I had no idea what that button was for. Thank you, now I'm an expert.
My older brother bought a brand new Subaru with traction control a while back. When he started explaining what it did I looked at him like he was crazy. I grew up knowing about cars, but I hadn't worked on a new car in a while. I assumed the traction control button just engaged the limited slip differential in the front. Had no idea that it engaged the antilock brakes independently on the slipping wheel. Nice theory, but they generally don't work very well in the real world. I call them 'poor man's posi'..
Turn it off when you need to make an aggressive move on dry pavement. In my wife's Audi I was trying to get out of an uphill driveway and merge onto a curved highway with limited visibility of oncoming traffic. I had to be quick about it. Unfortunately, and obviously, the traction control kicked in and the car simply wouldn't accelerate once I had gotten onto the highway. Traffic caught up with me. Fortunately they didn't honk or anything. I don't know if a wheel left the ground causing it to kick in (as there was a hump as well), the fact that I was driving uphill, or what.
Back in the 90's (before most vehicles had traction contro) I used my brakes to add pressure to the pads. Not near as good or as efficient as traction control but the concept was sound back then.
It's great for those who take no pride in having skills, like most people on the road. I can control my truck like it's an extension of my body, so It is always off in my truck! Traction control is useless for me, and when I first got my vehicle, it almost forced me into accidents by interrupting my driving. Also, in Tacoma's, you must hold the traction control for a few seconds to fully disable it!
I have the traction control on as it really don't benefit my needs. A well explained video it is!! I can say for the price of the TRD it don't have digital custer and is 15 years behind in tech! I did take the Sonata N Line over the TRD due to the over the top tech it has.inside it!
You are both very nice. Thank you for this video, although it would have been better if you had waited for the winter and actually shown us how to use the traction control, rather than Christina telling us over and over imagine a snowy day ... 😄
I prefer the TCS off as the default setting (press and hold TCS for 3 seconds for default off). How do I eleminate the gauge cluster warning window (TCS OFF) always taking over the screen while driving between the tach and speedometerso I can see the other functions ?
I keep forgetting to turn my Traction Control off when I've done doughnuts in a snowy parking lot but it seems just fine with it on. However it might be bad for the brakes when purposely trying to loose traction ...so next time we get snow I'll have to try turning it off
They used to call it Postreaction. When I turn it on my 2003 Corvette it seems like it crouches down and hugs the road better in the turns. I usually leave it off my car is low enough already and I rarely corner sharply. To me it probably gets better gas mileage and less wear on my brakes and differential. I watch these Teslas go by all the time and I think they could have had a V8 and a six speed manual transmission. It is so much more fun and if they are two years old I would probably beat them anyway.
For safety, always leave it on unless you have a reason not too. The reasons not to generally involve unusual situations such as being stuck (including difficulty when slowly climbing a slippery incline) and off-roading.
I am still confused, what conditions you want it off vs at what other conditions you want them ON? If I understood it correct, you do want it OFF when you want to move around smoothly in up hills. Does it help provide more grip during slippery conditions like snow or rain? I am lost.
Thanks for the video, but I'm still a bit confused. First, I have never "touched" the traction control button since I bought my car some 5 years ag, but just 2 days ago when breaking on icy road while going 30 mph I noticed that light come on as the car slowed down while vibrating to a stop. BTW, it a 6 speed manual. I suppose it means it's set to the "on" position.
I'm still not sure in what conditions it needs to be turned on. I live in an area with no snow and only rain during winter. I'm suspecting it's just better to have it on all the time...
It SUCKS. When you are heading to a ditch with your wheels pointed away from the ditch, trying to spin the tires to get you back on the road, the engine power dies and you go right into the ditch. Turn this OFF.
Hey thanks for putting this up! Great information I've been procrastinating to finding out what traction control is and you have a video on it. Thanks again!
I have a Focus RS. Yes it's fun with the traction control off. ( track or drift mode ). I call it...screw the pooch mode when on the track. You just lightly touched what that does.
Poor girl! Bless your heart! I pray to god that someday you will be able to afford pants that are not all ripped up! Work hard, learn to budget, and some day, god willing, you can get some new pants!
The best Traction Control explanation ever. I am one of those people that benefitted from Jeff's demonstration going uphill. Thanks for thinking of us. Much appreciated.
I aways thought it was a warning that there are 2 snakes behind me 😮
I'll check the owner manual. You might be right!
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@@AutoJeffReviewsGreat video. Nice explanation and fun to listen to, thanks.
@@jacoblagergren7658 you bet!!
If in doubt.....max the pedal out! 😂
I am an older driver that knows how to use the gas pedal to control slippage, but you have to pay attention to what your drive wheels are doing in icy or snowy conditions.
I'm the same as you,and live in a cold climate where there's snow. Thru
my life I always pumped the brakes moderately, and adjusted how much
gas to give the car. I don't like the traction control at all, because it
interferes with how I've driven in snowy or icy conditions. I always turn
it off. I just don't like it. Foe those who are scared to drive in these
conditions, I think it would be great. A lot of women would like this feature,
in my opinion. I just don't like the "system" automatically pumping my
brakes when I've already started to do it manually.
The Toyota salesman did not know what the traction control did. Good information learned from your presentation
thanks we appreciate it!
I was going up on a very shallow, but iced-over incline coming out of a parking lot.
Having to stop at the top to check for traffic, my vehicle was simply unable to pull out on the road...my front-wheel drive just kept slipping.
Cars were coming up behind me, but I was simply not going anywhere, and the front wheels were just spinning.
When the vehicles behind me came around me and clear out, I got thought, "Well, lets try it," and turned off my traction control.
Lo and behold, my vehicle moved forward without any issue and I got onto the road...totally surprised me: the traction control was working against me.
Right it does the opposite of what it's supposed to do for me too. My car has always slipped really bad in wet weather. When I finally started pushing on that traction control button and turning the traction OFF THATS when my car finally stopped slipping. So I always turn it off now. PLUS I noticed I stopped losing air in my tires everyday finally just from going over any little bump or dip in the road... with that default traction control button turned off. It's worst for me so I keep it off all of the time now
well my traction control is always on but then my tires were very slippery today as I drive in the rain . it was quite scary and I wondered if there was something wrong with my tires or the trac control 😦
It’s important to know how your traction control works as they’re different per manufacturer, and to know how invasive they are. It makes a difference in how it’ll help you in various situations. The C5, maybe even the C4, Corvette had a great traction/launch control that could get a novice driver to do perfectly 1/4 miles runs. My E46 M3’s system hinders it drastically by cutting engine power for a few seconds where the pedal basically goes dead to my inputs…that has caused some scares when pulling out into traffic where getting on the throttle and accelerating moderately is key, but when my tires slipped on some water or gravel (or this time I had not very grippy tires) traction control kicked in and I made less than ideal progress and pissed off a few drivers. My system works great in snow with proper tires though. The Mercedes ML320 in the 90’s had a good system of AWD that applied braking power to a slipping wheel to transfer power other wheels, that’s a system you’d leave on for that hill example.
My wife has a Subaru Outback with single stage Xmode, which causes the front wheels and the rear wheels to work together. Kind of like a posi traction rear end . In a Subaru stage 1, is called Snow and Dirt mode. It’s great for pulling away from a light on lightly snow covered roads or if it’s patchy snow, ice and pavement.
I have Dual Xmode on my Subaru Forester Touring. The Fist stage ; snow and dirt responds just like her Outback, but stage 2 in my Forester is for Deep Snow and Mud. This program takes the traction control Off, allowing each wheel to spin faster independently.
And yes having the traction control off is a blast for cutting donuts in a large parking lot covered in snow and ice.
This is why Subaru’s overall chassis and steering system is superior in the market today. Not even mentioning the numerous superior safety features.
@@jamied9782 Exactly
When you circled magic around my screen Christina Banks @ 00:13 you filled my heart with so much joy! 🥰
Good video! This happened to me where I got stuck in the snow with my 2017 Altima and trying to get out of the snow didn't work since the power was cut from the wheels; turned TC off and I was able to rock back and forth out of the spot. It was a one time deal but saved me from a tow :)
Since the power was cut to the wheels ? WTF
@@jeffersonjcoat the tires didn't spin as much with tc on. Turning it off slowed the wheels to spin more thus pptoviding more traction.
Jeff is so funny. He makes learning fun. So creative. That demo running up the hill should win an award.
Well, well, well... so that's what happened to me. Had a truly horrible experience on a long, steep incline road during a sudden snowstorm 5 years ago. Car just kept slipping backwards down the hill and I was too far up to let it slide all the way back down. I fought it for almost 10 minutes before getting to the top. If I had only known. I suspected something when I noticed how much my car hates the ECT button on my own driveway at home - that's why I watched this video! Well, thank you now.
Wow. Thank you both for the explanation! I have a very hard time going up the steep hill to my house when there's ice or snow. I got stuck several times
I have owned a lot of toyotas over the years and love them. I never had a bright, beautiful young lady demo the options though...TY TY 😇🥰
nailed it!
Still haven't / really don't understand yet what it does?
In some vehicles, pushing that button, and seeing the indicator on the dashboard is no guarantee that the system is actually disabled. I was instructed to park a trailer in a yard area that was very soggy, and the 4X4 RAM 3500 began spinning the wheels. Even after unhooking the trailer and shutting off the TC, I could feel the system interfering with my efforts to get out of the muddy, deepening tire tracks. I referred to the manual and pulled the fuse which protects the system. The truck drove out almost immediately. Sometimes engineers are tricky; they only let you *think* that you have control, but they're still involved.
Thanks you so much for making this video!! In November I purchased a used 2021 Renegade (27k miles) with a 1.4 (4 cyl) that is automatic. If you move the transmission lever to the left it has 1 & 2 on it) This past week in Iowa we had 3 major snow storms. I had trouble in the 'snow' 4WD drive mode as I couldn't get started in my own driveway!! I tried the Auto 4WD and Snow 4WD with the tires spinning and basically I had to rock it back and forth and I finally got out. The traction control was on. I realize some of it could also be the kind of tires that is on it. IMO the 'electronic' 4WD systems have ruined the mechanical 4WD. I had a 2006 Jeep Liberty with a 3.7 V6 and 17 inch tires. The 4WD mechanical lever in the vehicle had 4 Hi and 4 Lo and I could go anywhere with it!! After this past week I was missing my Liberty and regretting getting my Renegade BUT I will try your suggestion!!
Thanks,
Duane
glad to help!
this was awesome--I've always wondered about this issue, and now I know. Snow banks, steep uphills--easy to remember. Donuts in a snowy parking lot sounds like fun, unless under the snow there are parking blocks at the end of each parking space. Probably not a good to hit those when doing donuts! In thinking about this further, I think I'd rather just have a doughnut, as I'll be 62 in May so I don't have that many more years to enjoy a doughnut now and then . . .
Go get you a doughnut!! You deserve it ☺️
I really want to send you a doughnut now haha
I understood that you need the Traction control on in the snow and the light being on indicated that this feature is on
I don't like traction control,and live in a cold climate where there's snow. Thru
my life I always pumped the brakes moderately, and adjusted how much
gas to give the car. I don't like the traction control at all, because it
interferes with how I've driven in snowy or icy conditions. I always turn
it off. I just don't like it. For those who are scared to drive in these
conditions, I think it would be great. A lot of women would like this feature,
in my opinion. I just don't like the "system" automatically pumping my
brakes when I've already started to do it manually.
Thank you guys for explaining that I had no idea about that button but now you made it very clear to me on how to use it. Have a wonderful day and thank you for the tip.🤩👍🏼
glad we could do a good job and that you liked it
Traction control on a high performance car also wears out your tires a lot faster (unless you're intentionally burning out all the time...). Turn it on when road conditions are not optimal to help with control but in good conditions leave it off so your tires last longer.
In a bmw if you keep the traction control pressed for about 30s , it will not only disable traction control completely but also turn off the ABS. This is useful if the ABS sensor is damaged and the car goes into limited power mode. It happened to me and BMW told me to do this so that I could get to their workshop.
First time seeing either of you and you were both great separately and especially as a team. Not only was if useful information but your interactions and the cut of the video made out fun and enjoyable to watch
Thanks so much for following. I’m glad you liked it. We like to have fun on the channel.
I don't even listen to what you say. I just watch and it makes me feel real good for the day.
I'm always so excited about these add ons like traction control, terrain modes, auto cruise control, auto brakes etc...until I realise that I'm not a lazy driver and actually enjoy "driving" and having control of my vehicle. Once you gain a bit of experience, you're able to control the vehicle using the basics...like brakes, accelerator, and gears and actually have fun doing so. These are all gimmicks.
Good solid and fun explanation of traction control, though, so thanks for that:)
Jeff’s demo on the hill was brilliant. Nicely done!
Haha it seemed appropriate
I learned this from my mom if you are driving in snow going up And down hills put your car in a lower gear works best on roads where traffic is not driving crazy
On my 2011 Chevy sedan, if I press the button it works the same as you presented. If I hold it for 8 seconds, it will also defeat the ESC - electronic stability control - which helps to maintain the predicted (calculated) path of the vehicle.
I drove a 1987 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight for decades, and my uncle drove a 1988 Ninety Eight and his had Anti Lock breaks which was a new feature at the time only on some luxury vehicles at the time. And he didn’t know what it mean’t until he heard it kick in on an icy road one winter drive in the late 80’s.
In my friend's old truck, the traction control button was within arms reach of the passenger seat. I would occasionally turn it off. (Don't worry, road conditions were good.) The orange light would illuminate and my friend had no idea what the heck it meant. He was afraid to drive with the light on because he was afraid it would damage his vehicle. So he would pull over, shut his truck off, and restart it, which would reset it and turn the light off. To this day he had no idea it was me doing that, nor did he figure out all he had to do was press that button to turn it back on again.
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here in the tropical Philippines, we really don't need to know about traction control bc we don't have snow, but this is great additional knowledge
My last car was in an AWD 06 Honda Element that did not have traction control. My current car is a 2023 Subaru Forester that does have a traction control button. I don't anticipate needing to turn it off very often with the Forester but it's nice to know that I can if I need to.
I definitely want to push Christina’s fun button!
There's always one. 😆
Never turn off the Traction control button.
It's probably stinky
You're gross
@@ronl9357 Hey, can you be nice for a change ? Cristina's a nice person ......
This is quite a change as Jeff is usually the one pushing our buttons 😃
Hahaha, good one!
@@mommynova- 😉
Nice job Hoggy!
@@AutoJeffReviews 😁
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Thanks. 👍
Traction ON - Minimize Fishtailing on wet roads and conditions, or minimize spinning wheels by applying brakes or reducing engine power to spinning wheels
Traction OFF - Help you get unstuck in snow, embankment, or hill; or if you want to do “donuts”
By default, leave the traction button ON.
You guys were great! I love the demonstration of going up the hill😂😂😂😂😂😂
I never use it, much rather drive myself, in fact when you learn how to drive in slippery conditions it can actually be fun. 😁
Here's the rule of thumb I use:
1. Traction control is to keep a car controllable in a skid. For safety, leave it on unless you have a reason not to.
2. If I'm doing something that involves going SLOW(ish) and I EXPECT skidding, turn it off. Examples: Off-roading, sand and mud, climbing a slippery incline, getting unstuck.
So if I'm using ramps to do an oil change I should put it in 1st with traction control off?
Thank-you, for an excellent explanation. I don't plan on ever being stuck, going up a steep slippery hill, or making donuts, but it's good to know! 😄
I had a frightening experience pulling out of a farm gravel driveway onto a highway with limited vision both ways. When a gap in the traffic occurred , I put my foot on the accelerator, the front of the car moved onto the highway then the the rear wheels stopped turning and the engine hesitated, not knowing what had happened, I was able to reverse back, just in time to prevent an accident.
Then I realised it was the traction control preventing me from accelerating onto the highway, Turning it off gave me full control moving forward, even if I left a spray of gravel behind me.
i didn’t click for the car
Fun button, huh?
Dido and I'm still looking for "THE BUT TON"...
Wow - you’re a creep - congrats?
Same here
I'm happy I'm not the only one
Simple, easy explanation. Thank you.
Always love the bloopers 😂.. you 2 are awesome 👏👍🏼
Thanks haha
We have fun filming lol
best video on trac control ever😻
that's a huge compliment!
i gave this a like you guys are too funny the snowless snow bank and the carless hill climb are hilarious
lol thanks so much glad you liked!!
I drive an off road rated 4X4 - 3 ton truck. I turn off the traction control and use the 4X4 wheel lock when going in to deep snow to park or get out of a parking spot. The truck has deep thread high traction snow/mud tires. I have no issues with snow and off road conditions. I can park on streets in winter where normal cars cannot park. I make my own parking place in the the snow. If to get stuck with this truck I would have to do something stupid or try to get stuck.
I’ve test drove the new 2024 CX-5, and all who have found the steering to be heavily weighted to steer. I have the perfect solution, Turn OFF the traction control. Now you can use 1 finger to drive your car in tight places. This is also true for my 2019 CX-3. The TCS will always revert to on when the car is turned off. So for easy steering just turn it Off again.
The button is confusing as hell no one tells you that the traction control which supposedly keeps the tires from slipping is actually ON by default on the car so pushing that button will TURN IT OFF. Not like every other button does. Any other button in the world turns the action you want on when you first push it. So I thought it was turning my traction on when i pushed it and the orange light lit up. Even though the word OFF is clearly on it. I couldnt understand why something would be off while lit up. Also when I push it THATS when my traction gets better in rainy weather. When i push it again and the light goes off my car immediately starts slipping in wet weather. So its confusing as hell
Amen to that. It’s 100% counter intuitive.
That is what a vehicle manual is for. Why would someone have to inform you of this. You are saying you would buy a brand new vehicle and not go over the manual so you know what all buttons and etc. are for.
I knew how traction control worked. I watched the video just to see Christina. 😂
Winter is the time to turn it off if your traction control activities at 110 kph on ice, you will be rolling in the ditch. That's a great piece of safety equipment. It happens all the time in Canada
This video confuses me because it contradicts everything the new car salesman told me regarding the traction control feature in my 2017 Subaru Legacy.
Being unfamiliar with a traction control feature, I asked the salesman when I should and should not engage the traction control feature. He explained to me as follows in the next two paragraphs:
While driving on paved or hard-packed gravel roads in any weather, I should leave the traction control disengaged as that would allow Subaru's computerized symmetrical intelligent all-wheel drive software to control slippage and maintain better control of the vehicle by automatically applying more power to the wheels that need it and less power to the wheels that don't.
But while driving in deep mud, live sand, or trying to get out of a ditch or climb an unusually steep grade that is slippery, then I should engage the traction control feature as that would allow the engine, the transmission, and the differential to work together by applying raw gripping power to all the wheels equally for better traction, and once the vehicle has returned to normal driving conditions, then I should disengage the traction control and allow the intelligent symmetrical all-wheel drive system to take over again for best on-road control.
So, since I purchased this vehicle brand new off the lot in January 2017, I have never used the traction control feature because I have never found myself in a situation like any of the ones described above. My 2017 Subaru Legacy has always performed flawlessly in our erratic New Hampshire winter weather, with the traction control feature always disengaged.
This TH-cam video has caused some confusion for me, and I seek more information from my dealership. Someone is misinformed and disseminating misleading and potentially dangerous information to the public. I need to know who is right and who is wrong.
Don’t be confused sir, as you’re learning about a traction control system in this video that is inferior to the one in your Subaru. Your Subaru salesman told you correctly.
Subaru has one of the best and systems.
I think you are confused with what the button does. Normally the traction control is ON. When you push the button, it turns off.
Thank you from a 2017 Highlander user.
Thank you that was a big help for I've owned a Jeep for a year, my first jeep and I had no idea what that button was for. Thank you, now I'm an expert.
Jeff's demo was the highlight, way better than using an actual car 😂
My older brother bought a brand new Subaru with traction control a while back. When he started explaining what it did I looked at him like he was crazy.
I grew up knowing about cars, but I hadn't worked on a new car in a while. I assumed the traction control button just engaged the limited slip differential in the front.
Had no idea that it engaged the antilock brakes independently on the slipping wheel.
Nice theory, but they generally don't work very well in the real world. I call them 'poor man's posi'..
Thank you guys. ❤
You bet!
Jeff is the Star of the show
Best explanation I’ve heard, thanks.
Awesome, thank you!
Turn it off when you need to make an aggressive move on dry pavement. In my wife's Audi I was trying to get out of an uphill driveway and merge onto a curved highway with limited visibility of oncoming traffic. I had to be quick about it. Unfortunately, and obviously, the traction control kicked in and the car simply wouldn't accelerate once I had gotten onto the highway. Traffic caught up with me. Fortunately they didn't honk or anything. I don't know if a wheel left the ground causing it to kick in (as there was a hump as well), the fact that I was driving uphill, or what.
Back in the 90's (before most vehicles had traction contro) I used my brakes to add pressure to the pads. Not near as good or as efficient as traction control but the concept was sound back then.
I now know what that feature does. Thank you!
Still I didn’t understand it should be off or on . How about on a snowy day off or on .
It's great for those who take no pride in having skills, like most people on the road. I can control my truck like it's an extension of my body, so It is always off in my truck! Traction control is useless for me, and when I first got my vehicle, it almost forced me into accidents by interrupting my driving. Also, in Tacoma's, you must hold the traction control for a few seconds to fully disable it!
I have the traction control on as it really don't benefit my needs. A well explained video it is!! I can say for the price of the TRD it don't have digital custer and is 15 years behind in tech! I did take the Sonata N Line over the TRD due to the over the top tech it has.inside it!
I like the buttons right there where you're gonna dump your drink into them
Hey Jeff, would it be asking too much to post a link to Christina's channel? 🤔
youtube.com/@ChristinaBanksToyota?si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
It’s a new channel so not much content yet
@@AutoJeffReviews Let us know when you perform the 'guest star ' duties over there 😉
You are both very nice. Thank you for this video, although it would have been better if you had waited for the winter and actually shown us how to use the traction control, rather than Christina telling us over and over imagine a snowy day ... 😄
What do you select when you are parked uphill, the road is wet and the wheels are spinning when you are trying to leave?
I've never even touched mine. I couldn't tell you if it was on or off. I will now have to investigate.
Does it just lock the differential? If so - it can be used only in slippery conditions to avoid any damage/wear.
I prefer the TCS off as the default setting (press and hold TCS for 3 seconds for default off). How do I eleminate the gauge cluster warning window (TCS OFF) always taking over the screen while driving between the tach and speedometerso I can see the other functions ?
I’m happy to click your fun button.
nice explaination and funny too. Again very true.
I keep forgetting to turn my Traction Control off when I've done doughnuts in a snowy parking lot but it seems just fine with it on. However it might be bad for the brakes when purposely trying to loose traction ...so next time we get snow I'll have to try turning it off
learned somethng new today - thanks guys
They used to call it Postreaction. When I turn it on my 2003 Corvette it seems like it crouches down and hugs the road better in the turns. I usually leave it off my car is low enough already and I rarely corner sharply. To me it probably gets better gas mileage and less wear on my brakes and differential. I watch these Teslas go by all the time and I think they could have had a V8 and a six speed manual transmission. It is so much more fun and if they are two years old I would probably beat them anyway.
Good video! Christina's got a little of a Lindsey Lohan thing going on.👍
I'll tell her. She will like that haha
Good demo Jeff
Thanks!!
so, for everyday driving in good wx and on no issue roads is it better to leave it on or turn it off??? 🤠
Im old school, and like to always be in total control of the vehicles. So i hate trac control!
Totally get that
Can you engage or disengage while the car is moving?
Yes
When is it appropriate to keep TC on?
For safety, always leave it on unless you have a reason not too. The reasons not to generally involve unusual situations such as being stuck (including difficulty when slowly climbing a slippery incline) and off-roading.
Very interesting thank you both.
LOVE the simulations!!! i learned a lot too
I am still confused, what conditions you want it off vs at what other conditions you want them ON? If I understood it correct, you do want it OFF when you want to move around smoothly in up hills. Does it help provide more grip during slippery conditions like snow or rain? I am lost.
She is very good teacher ❤
Thanks, you made it clear when to turn it off!
Thanks for the video, but I'm still a bit confused. First, I have never "touched" the traction control button since I bought my car some 5 years ag, but just 2 days ago when breaking on icy road while going 30 mph I noticed that light come on as the car slowed down while vibrating to a stop. BTW, it a 6 speed manual. I suppose it means it's set to the "on" position.
Could it automatically engage itself in critical situations? Check in your car's manual; usually this type of thing is discussed there.
I'm still not sure in what conditions it needs to be turned on. I live in an area with no snow and only rain during winter. I'm suspecting it's just better to have it on all the time...
ive had it for three years on my new car, and never know what it was. thanks.
It SUCKS. When you are heading to a ditch with your wheels pointed away from the ditch, trying to spin the tires to get you back on the road, the engine power dies and you go right into the ditch. Turn this OFF.
Great vid .but drive up here in Saskatchewan 🇨🇦 in -50 in the winter or freezing 🥶 rain
2024 camry here. Does traction control turn back on automatically?
Thank you...enjoyed the video...good job.
Beauty and the beast explained, and i got it.
hahaha I'll take that -- Jeff
I been using that on my chevy Equinox especially on the wet climate
Good idea read owner Manual of your car
Hey thanks for putting this up! Great information I've been procrastinating to finding out what traction control is and you have a video on it. Thanks again!
That's the beauty of TH-cam :)
Thank you so much for the information.
I have a Focus RS. Yes it's fun with the traction control off. ( track or drift mode ). I call it...screw the pooch mode when on the track. You just lightly touched what that does.
Poor girl! Bless your heart! I pray to god that someday you will be able to afford pants that are not all ripped up! Work hard, learn to budget, and some day, god willing, you can get some new pants!
I turn it off in my AWD Subaru Forester when towing up a rough off-road steep dirt road or towing a boat up a steep boat ramp 😊