Unboxing Vintage PDAs!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- I bought some PDAs to add to my collection...let's take a look at what I ended up with!
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I used to have a Palm Tungsten E. It was a lovely PDA. It's main use ended up being playing some sort of snake word game on it, whilst I sat on a bench a couple of streets away from where I used to work. I used to sit there and wait until a couple of minutes before work started because I hated the job so much I didn't even want to be a minute early!
An unusual association I know.
I have the same device in a drawer next to me now! I loved it, made a little headway writing software for the thing too, before I gave up, realising that even when I first got it, it was outdated and Palm OS was dying out.
Wow that foldable keyboard is very impressive. Even now that thing looks amazing.
It looks really well designed... Maybe better than some modern laptop keyboards
I was about to comment the same thing
I had one for a Sony clie in the early 2000s it was actually a great keyboard and was awesome for taking notes in highschool. A Bluetooth version would be pretty sweet. It was a really nice accessory that was super satisfying to deploy and use.
it looks quite modern too
In summer 2003 my parents, out of the blue, got me a Palm Zire 71 after years of lusting after a PDA. It was absolutely mindblowing to me at the time what you could do with that thing, used to read so many horribly formatted pdf ebooks on that that boy
Man, when I was a child was my dream to have those gadgets.
Especially the Sony PDAs. They are so beautiful even nowadays. I relly wanna see one of them in action in some next video :)
I agree. I loved the look and ergonomics of some of the Clies. I own the SJ20 and SJ22. The scroll wheel is really an improvement over other Palm's scroll buttons.
Ex Symbol tech support here - Great overview! I also used to work for 3com, and Symbol would sell lots of 3com stuff. Symbol had lots of Windows CE (like your picture) cool
Colin, I have a collection of old PDA’s and accessories including a PalmOne branded folding keyboard that connects to the PDA via IrDA. It has it’s IrDA transmitter on a hinged arm so it can be aimed at the IrDA port on any Palm OS device, so for example it works with HandSpring Visors that have their IrDA port on the side. In addition that means it supports (both literally & figuratively) later Palm OS devices that supported landscape mode. 😊
I had the color version of the sj20, the sj30 (pretty sure they were out at the same time), among several others. Combined with the folding keyboard, it was awesome for notes in highschool. I just always wanted a truly functional pocket computer as a kid.. the modern smartphones are literally the gadget I always dreamed of back then.
320x320 was also HIGH res at the Time. The standard was 160x160. I'm pretty sure Sony was the first to bump it up and I remember a lot of apps still rendered in 160x160
I remember playing 2 player games with IR "beaming". Takes me back
I remember having a Palm m500 back in the day. Got a great deal on it and used it from 2006-2008. PalmOS 4 used Graffiti1, which required the letter Y to be written with a northeast-facing tail. I still write the letter Y that way to this day because of that device, so I can't say that it didn't have a big impact on my life.
I've used a PDA since the turn of the millennium and I am still using one, never stopped
Palm IIIe>Visor Deluxe>Tungsten | E>Centro>Palm Pixi Plus>>>Now I have many many PDAs
If you need software PM me or something, I have at least 3-4GB of Palm OS Programs, patches, ROM upgrades and Drivers
Which one are you still using? I have had a lot of PDA's and still use my Palm Treo 700P as a PDA.
I'm still using a Tungsten T3
The Clie UX40 and UX50 could synchronize over bluetooth! Pretty neat. It was faster than IR too and didn't require a direct line of sight.
I used to have that exact clie with a camera until I broke the screen and couldn’t touch it anymore. At that point I could only use it as a camera. I still actually have the memory sticks and the pictures I took with it if you’re curious enough to see em. I think the pictures were of some grass and my snake.
I have no idea why this was recommended to me randomly, but oh boy this brought back many memories. I have/had(May have it around somewhere still! Lol) the Palm Tungsten E2 and I felt sooo cool and living in the future when those were released. Honestly looking back they were pretty advanced for the time. Cool video.
1) the beam function was also a great feature for networking. We used to beam our contact info and small documents to each other.
2) I used to sell Handspring Visors way back at Staples in the early 2000s. I was so proficient at graffiti, that when I got my iPad and Apple pen, I still used graffiti to try to write on the tablet. It’s a skill you forget and then it just comes back to you. I was able to write faster than type back in the day.
God I remember my friend in HS had a Compaq ipaq 3800 with a foldable keyboard to take notes during class. We thought it was the coolest thing ever.
A blue Handspring Visor was by far the coolest thing 'Santa' ever left me under the tree when I was a kid!
maybe because that's my favorite color but it, with Symbol, catched my heart...I was born in 1996!!! LOL
If I ever buy one of these, it's 100% for that excellent Windows CE Sim City 2000 port. Still can't believe we haven't gotten one for modern mobile devices...
The palm port of simcity2000 was better than the CE port IMO
dosbox is not the same as running it natively.
There is an iOS version. Not supported anymore, but I still have it running on an old iPad mini that I can’t update the OS for as I have old games I worked on installed on it.
It’s a solid version and keeps the gameplay. Has “HD” OG iPad resolution.
It’s a premium game, not the awful IAP monster that’s on the App Store now.
i still own a sony clie nx70v fully working and the battery easely goes trough 1.5 days i love this bad boy ( im 25) i still use it as my recorder for the company i work for or to make notes/appointments
I am impressed that your battery is still hanging in there. The batteries on my SJ20 and 22 are only good enough to use when plugged in to the charger.
I used to own a Palm Tungsten E. I felt as if I owned the most advanced MP3 player of the school, and with a battery which lasted the entire day. And that's all I did with it... Use it as an MP3 player. And eventually I found a video player for it so it also played videos. The color screen was decent enough for that era.
I still have my Handspring Visor edge, which I also used to take notes in college!
The Edge was amazingly small and portable! I always liked the extra portable PDA's.
If each time I felt nostalgic, went to the ebay, I would had a house full of junk. It could do a good topic to talk if nostalgia really makes sense, just wondering.
I always wanted a palm pilot growing up but video games naturally came first. I’d really like to see a video from you about trying to integrate one of these palm pilots into your current daily life. How you used it in the past and the measures you have to take to make it useful today would be fun.
They were so versatile, especially with accessories. I used mine a lot every day. I even read novels on mine. I also used a program ("AvantGo") that sent subscription content (all free with a few ads) with news, reviews, and special interest articles. When I charged my Palm at night, my PC downloaded the content from the web and automatically sent it to my Palm so I could read it off line the next day.
Even if I was born in '96 I like to think "what if I was born in..." and I suddenly fall in love for the translucid one!!! Oh, gosh, I want a brand new smartphone(nowdays they are just PDAs with cellular) blue translucid!❤
Or the Palm Symbol, yeah, I love the blue(fan fact: red and pink is the second my favorite)! ahahah
I recently got the vintage PDA bug, too. Back in the day, I had an HP 200LX handheld MS-DOS system, and a Newton (120, IIRC,) later replaced both with a Palm V (from the very first shipment to retailers, I had to go to three different stores to find one that hadn't sold out within minutes of opening!) Even got a GPS unit for the Palm V (a big "cradle" style unit the Palm V sat in, with a giant nub antenna - it's amazing how GPS is now just a tiny piece of another chip) that had turn-by-turn navigation.
Well, I recently got an original "Pilot 1000". Before even the Palm branding. I had forgotten how 'nice' Graffiti was for the time. Once you got used to using it, it was really fast to use. And much more reliable than Newton's handwriting recognition (even the later, much-better-than-launch Newton OS 2.0 handwriting recognition.) I didn't remember that there was a Graffiti for Newton OS! I wish I had known back in the day, I probably would have stuck with Newton!
Yeah, the world of industrial PDAs moves at a glacial pace. My work would've still been using Windows Mobile at the time this video was released (we finally started switching to Android in 2019, and some contractors still use the old PDAs). I swear I've seen those Palm OS Symbol PDAs being used recently for scanning event tickets.
I remember putting the HP with navigation from Tom Tom the first time on my car window in 2005. Almost nobody speeded at night around me because they thought I was the Police.
I remember being envious of a college friend's Palm PDA and buying some economy model from Circuit City that was just so cheap and clumsy to use that I ended up returning it in a week. "No thanks," I said, "I'll just stick to lugging around my 2003 HP Pavilion that is 2 inches thick and weighs 25 pounds and sounds like a vacuum cleaner, along with all of my books." My bag literally weighed upwards of 75lbs. It was good exercise. :D
I was feeling nostalgic for a Tungsten C I used in college and bought a T5 and a T|X just in the last couple of weeks. (Literally won the T5 auction last night) Glad I got them before this went up!
I still have the C in storage somewhere, but with a smashed screen from when I left it in the car trunk.
I had the C. I preferred the keyboard to Grafitti. The C was one of the fastest PDA's in Palm's lineup.
the nostalgia is immense. good memories
I had a basic Sharp PDA with a green backlight in high school, and later on was gifted a Palm M100 an aunt as a Christmas gift, and I eventually bought a keyboard for it. I really should dig it out, give it a good cleaning.
Please make a follow up video that covers these PDA's with the power on!
Your content always has a nice, chill vibe. I love it.
8:34 oh god. this brings back memories. i remember my older brother got a Palm Pilot m505, and got me a PalmOne m100. i loved using that thing, but sadly lost it somewhere along the way during my childhood. i didnt miss it at the time cause i had my gameboy but watching this video refreshed my memories.
The m505 is a good device. Much nicer than a Pilot!
I still use my Palm m505 today. I have replaced the battery once. But on this very day, it said buzz off. The screen went blank today each time just seconds after powering up. But I managed to take it apart and fix the problem.
I just got a black handspring visor on ebay. I sync it with my ibook g3/900 with the Palm Desktop App for Mac OS 9. One thing I learned is it drains the AAA batteries even when not in use and if they die you lose your date book logs and such. So always sync it each night and remove the batteries. Next morning put them back in and re-sync everything back in.
I think your Visor has something wrong with it. Mine didn't have the problem with the battery draining at night.
For me it was all about the Casio Cassiopeia series. I still have mine that I originally got back in 1999, the E-100.
I wanted a PDA so bad when I was a teenager. I thought they were to greatest, most high tech thing I had ever seen. Now I'm Playing Jurassic World: The Game on my smartphone with better graphics than the best PC from back then. It's so strange.
You really aren't missing a big deal, I had a Palm Zire back in the day, awful battery life, the sd wifi adapter was badly suported (dind't work with wep passwords)... The only good use: a tomtom bluetooth antena and navigation maps and for that in 2005 was worth it.
@@Menda_Lerenda Sorry to hear that your Zire had bad battery life. Some of the Palm handhelds had great battery life. Especially the ones with monochrome screens. I enjoyed my PDA's a lot. In fact, I still use my Palm Treo as a PDA. I carry it with my Android phone, so I can use the apps and data bases that I built up over the years.
I had a Newton. I could have bought a 3DO with money. I thought I was buying a computer. It was a crappy notebook to collect the numbers of the 5 people I would bother calling. I spent most of my time playing that dropping word game that was installed, and regretting my purchase. Could have played thenOG Need for speed if I wasn’t stupid.
I got so good with graffiti on my Palm V that it started to effect my handwriting
It is kind of like shorthand. Some people got really fast with it.
I had one of the fold-able types with the chiclet keyboard very cheap but as a young teen I use to like using it. Great video colin just wish you turned them on.
I loved the old palm OS powered handhelds back then. I had a treo 600 and zire 72 back in the day and between the two of them, I did my BS Nursing senior thesis on them.
Man i remember growing up my dad had one of those Sony`s, he had that thing for a really long time till he finally got a smart phone
You should do a video on the 90's MS-DOS compatible(ish) palmtops like the HP 200LX and the 95 LX
School and university Libraries used the scanner for book inventory and database entry that’s why schools had them
I was still using a couple of Sony Clies 10 years ago to play games on. You really had to have the memory stick because the internal memory would wipe when the battery died. Mine was black and white with no camera. The screen res was too crappy for pictures anyway. But I loved my card games and Sudoku on it! One of mine was rechargeable and the other took regular batteries. No Wifi either. They had infrared.
I used to have a Palm Zire 72 early 2000s :) Loved it, but the blue edge got damaged quite quickly...
I got two of them. One was faulty and I tried to get into it. Oh dear made a right mess of that.
Found my Handspring Visor recently. The LCD kaput. Everything else working fine. Same goes for my Palm m505. All ok except for bloated battery.
The SJ20 does have a scroll wheel too, but it's on the edge, which is better, because it allows one handed operation using your thumb. I have the SJ20 and the SJ22 with color. BTW the infrared was also handy for transferring data (i.e. your electronic business card) and software to another Palm.
I had an iPaq and it ran Win CE. Color, lots of add ons. Very heavy!
in high school i had a palm pilot and i only really used it to slack off and play games in class, lol. it had some pretty impressive knockoffs and unofficial ports, one being DOOM.
I used the own that same exact Handspring Visor... didn’t they used to sell an adapter so u can connect to the internet?
i start with a Palm TX follow by Treo 650... those were the days...
I have 3 Hp Compaq's all with the same problem bad batteries; and no one makes them anymore. I enjoyed using them with Navman GPS sleeves.
My first pda was a Compaq Aero, love golf games on them its awesome.
Basically Smartphones and Tablets are the evolution of the PDA.
Found my old hp pocket PDA in its box the other day while clearing out a cupboard it still works fine don't know what to do with it though
I had a few of these in the early 2000s as well.. also used em with a keyboard to take notes in school
Actually had the color version of the sj20 (sj30).. same keyboard too. Was pretty decent
Great, now I need to unpack and charge all of my vintage devices and regret all of those I don't have (yet) 😋
The thing that set off my palm nostalgia was my recent repair/"battery hack" of my palm-powered Alphasmart dana. Can I assume the Alphasmart series of devices might show up on this channel sometime?
You have to do a more detailed video on these awesome devices!
I would love to see a video providing more depth on the Newton
I used the Sony CLIÉ which I was remembered back in 2011...
I'm more interested in the PDAs with colour screens. Imagine if they could play movies
Palm m105 with that same folding keyboard here.
I'd love to see a video with those fold-up devices.
cheers from Portugal!
I have a palm IIIe that I purchased new. I bought the game Sim City for it and it still runs.
You had me at "Handspring Visor".
My response: "JESUS CHRIST!"
Omg I’ve wanted a video like this for ages
I miss my Color PDA so much!
I was a Windows Mobile guy, Loved those
That was a fun unboxing!
So I've got a Palm collection for some reason - over 100 devices at this point. If you're ever interested, I could send you some stuff. I have a few M100's in the original box.
Wow, that's quite the collection! I don't suppose you have a IIIe Special Edition you don't want anymore?
Thanks!
The clear case and non-upgradable ROM? I think I do, I'll take a look.
What PDA has the most direct, straight, and unaltered form of Palm OS? Thanks
I wonder if you can 3D print the dummy PCMCIA card for the Newton, since its basically plastic and doesn't really do anything.
Having a palm pilot was like being a god pretending you could send e-mails when you were just composing emails offline to send later when you sync.
Was hoping to see an ipaq
I still have a Palm IIIx somewhere and a Psion. :)
My dad got a PDA when he moved to the US way back in 99
Wish you had done a review on some of the springboard expansion modules. Have not seen a good youtube video on that at all.
Joeys Cleaning Lady that profile pic tho 😂
I still have mine. Camera. GPS and backup modules.
hey, colin what is your opinion on the moto mod dev kit? is it worth it to pay money for each piece that you wanna add on?
also, ive never owned a palm device bcus i was always on my motorola razr or blackberry, but now after many years they definitely intrigue me and this video made me wanna buy a few. 👍
I loved stowaway keyboards
barcodes used to find students in the database?
Ahh nice to see some palms. Had a tj-35, the first model you unboxed seems to be the higher end version of that since it has all the bells and whistles (camera, wifi) I wrote a good 10 albums worth of music using that device using the amazing and totally ahead of it's time 'bhajis loops' software made by Olivier Gillet (now better known for creating modular synths as mutable instruments) definitely recommend loading it up on one of these and playing around as he's made it free these days (www.chocopoolp.com) definitely worth checking out. Thanks for the nice little trip down nostalgia lane.
I knew Palm OS PDA's were versatile, but I never heard of that use. Pretty good for an "electronic organizer."
We're close to the same age if you graduated grade 12 in the early 2000's.
Not gonna lie, the reason I have a small collection of around 20 Nintendo handhelds is because they’re small and I can have several of them and take up only one shelf
5:09 I have that! It's broken but I have it!
High resolution 320*320 pixels
That would be the Sony's in this video.
Maybe someone would know the answer: how come, until the iPhone came along, none of these touchscreen handhelds used a capacitive touchscreen? Apple did NOT invent capacitive touchscreens, and capacitive touchscreens are way more accurate and way less frustrating to use than resistive ones, so... Why weren't they used?
Ancestors to the Galaxy Note...
i have a 120 2.0
It's SONY ~!
is this collin
Bought a Sony Clie in 2003 but soon traded it for a Nokia 3650 smartphone.
No pocket pc?
Are you from Canada?
Minneapolis, so close enough I guess lol
Had a folding one with keyboard in the beginning of the 9ties.
The coolest thing in 2000 now it's just electronic junk!
The most important thing you forget is the specs!!! 😐
Check his channel. Maybe he did another video on that. If not, you can get the specs with a Google search.
List of mobile operating systems: Symbian (old nokia phones), Palm, Windows CE from Microsoft and the later windows phone os, Blackberry, iOS, and android.
Palm has been one of those unusual OS that was great at its time, but now with the flood of android and ios, I am not seeing much palm OS devices out there. The later version color touchscreen with pen devices were very good and almost as good as modern mobile phones but without the extra processing power and can do more simple things than current mobile phones and tablets. The graffiti was a simple way to write on these things, and made good use of the pen that most modern phones don't have. Why do those phones and tablets are so against the pen? An entire method of input is lost in recent technologies that can benefit from it. Last, Palm OS if they do things right, they can grow to compete in the modern phone and tablet technologies by making their own app store and developing a lot of apps to use on palm devices. I am sure many people from websites such as github can make use of the newer device.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_OS
Looks like the entire code was merged with linux and since android is based on linux, the whole thing is on your android phones without realizing it.
I agree. I prefer the precision of the original styluses. The new ones (aftermarket) for capacitive screens are a poor imitation.
That apple newton is horrifically ugly. I think my dad may have had one, he was a Mac user since the early 90s. He definitely had a number of palm pilots!
Had one never used it. By then computers were better
PDAs weren’t designed as replacements for your computer. They were made to coexist with your computer.
@@80sCompaqPC I agree. They made your computer's data more portable. Once you edited the data, it would get updated on your PC. Ultra portable computing before smartphones. Later, they evolved into smartphones, like my Palm Treo.