I think one final oversight that should be addressed are dynasties, the fact that they’re both an incredibly important mechanic in the game and in history while also being incredibly basic is insane. Like beyond their name there is zero difference between dynasties and there’s no real way of interacting with them dispose them being your royal family. They should’ve added more interactions with dynasties, through a new menu and such.
@@ItsGroundhogDay Project Ceasar looks about 2-3 years away. That's plenty of time in which devs moved from Eu4 can contribute to PC; Ck2's last DLC came out 2 years before Ck3.
to be honest eu iv one of the best things in my life it was next to me always in hard times I learned I enjoyed it was awesome playing it since 2013 !! we will miss you eu iv I hope God will keep me alive to play eu 5 new times I hope that we will enjoy it like it's old sister eu 4 😢😢😢
@@maj5140In that case, formulating it as ,,minor Kurdish power in the Persia region“ would have been better, but it is what it is. Edit: I‘ve noticed that Heskîf isn‘t even part of the Persia region, it‘s actually part of the Anatolia region
I've been playing the game since it was a box game, and have been playing it since Europa Universalis (1) (which I miss a lot because it was more like the original box game).
Sad no other cultures except for Inca were develop. Coastal Peru had many powerful kingdoms like the Chimor. Also the Peruvian coast is not depicted in the game, only mountains and jungle... The coast si about 120000 km2 in size (similar in size to England) and where most of the modern Peruvian population lives, a "wet desert" with many rivers giving it life, and civilizations 6000 years old like Caral.
The base game has loads of content. I would strongly recommend against buying the DLC, if you really want the DLC just use the subscription service. EU5 will be out well before the subscription becomes more expensive than buying the DLC.
@@ThePuma1707 sub 5 service? It’s 11.50$ per month to rent the game. You don’t own it and you lose everything the moment you stop sub. Why would I do that. Absurd. Paradox create a ‘problem’ with their ludicrous dlc policy and offer a “solution” so you sub instead. If they can’t offer a serious discount I’ll just pirate it
Ya que Paradox Tinto está situada en España, espero que la traducción sea decente, que, últimamente, las traducciones de otros juegos de Paradox han sido pésimas.
Going to buy this so don’t worry, but announcing “more Dutch content for the struggle between the stadholders and the House of Orange” was a narrative blunder. The House of Orange *were* the stadholders, please doublecheck your script next time. You meant more content for the struggle between regents (“statists”) and the House of Orange.
Спасибо, мы ждем все с нетерпением, когда наберем достаточное число warscore в регион Рутения и подпишем мирный договор. Усталость от войны все-таки растет, надеюсь бедствия не последуют.
The most Spanish dev team and video results in the expansion that has the least for Spain. Lol. Arguably a negative due to rework and buff of American natives.
Spain is one of the most fleshed out nations why do they need more. Also the AI isn’t gonna do a sunset invasion they can’t even handle Ming mechanics.
@alexmason5521 I didn't say Spain needs it, just that it's funny that the Spanish team didn't focus them. Frankly at this point in waiting for them to stop Dlc and patches as I'm tired of having to relearn the game every other time I play
Why are new missions sold in this dlc for nations already updated in previous dlcs? We now have to pay twice to update the same nation's flavor, missions and mecanics? I don't appreciate the direction this game is going. Time for EU5 I guess, hoping it won't be like that
Cause you're paying for the Dev's time; in the same way that you have to pay a mechanic every time you go in to get your car fixed/improved, you need to pay game developers every time they fix/improve your game, since, y'know, they have to pay rent, food, and bills whether they're working on a new country or an old one.
@@jellyrolls2765 of course devs need to be paid. But we also expect a finished product when we buy it. In this situation, the devs are not "fixing" their game. They are artificially extending its lifetime with small updates that are meant to complete each other, although in contradictory ways, and locked behind a paywall. If I keep your car mecanic analogy, consider this: you are never buying 3/4 of a tire, even if it somehow works well enough for you. You expect the reseller to give you a full tire, which you pay for. You don't want to get the missing 1/4 tire later, for the full price. Several DLCs spent on the same nation, updating it in various incomplete ways, feel exactly like this. And this is a dubious practice which I want to see disappear. Also, see how the same issue is handled by the Custodian team in Stellaris. This is how it should work. And the best part: these Custodian devs also get paid for their time. So yes, in my view, the business model for EU4 is deeply flawed and earns Paradox my utmost distrust.
Because the content is extra and new. For example all the new flavour in this DLC for Aztecs is on top of and integrated with the old Doom mechanics etc. (which were added to the game nearly a decade ago).
The sad thing is all the features in our now feature rich eu4.... eu5 we are going to lose half of them and then 5 years after eu5 and dlc we will then get the features back.
Don't think so, EU it's their gem they will at least release eu5 with most if not all transferable eu4 features. I'm ready to review bomb if they do not anyway
@@celeridad6972Judging by their past actions, I don't believe this one bit. Even EU4 itself was missing content from EU3 upon its release and sadly the trend continued after that. HoI4, Victoria 3, Cities Skylines 2 and Crusader Kings 3 were all missing content from their predecessors.
Well hopefully with enough verbal reinforcement that is more positive than just negative... that they will think twice about short changing the loyal fans who have paid time and time again over the years. I but feel like this is a long wish
i won't believe there would be eu5 unless if they say there is, for instance victoria 3 was released and then they started showing dev diaries. i don't trust implications and teasing.
Europe is getting 9999th unnecessary feature, meanwhile the typo in "Lower Yik" is still there. The Caucasus is still wildly incorrect, and Siberia is still just Russia's dinner.
I've already pre-purchased this DLC, but am I the only one that thinks the DLC's just make it easier for players to conquer the world as any nation? If an EUV ever gets made, maybe calling it Project Caesar as a placeholder, I hope that the mission trees would be reworked so that for every bonus given, a malus is applied to an integrated component of the game. Rarely in life does everything come up roses, and rather than making things easier for the players, maybe giving us new challenges would be worthwhile? Probably just a pipedream.
that's pretty much any DLC since they started to focus the DLCs on specific reasons. Only mission trees that make said region broken overpowered in the hands of the player. The game gets easier with every DLC.
There's definitely power creep every time new content is added, but that just adds flavour. If pretty much every region has a overpowered mission tree, then really no region has an overpowered mission tree.
@@DylanSargessonNo, this is only a new phenomenon. The good old content had minimal impact on the balance of power if any. Any time the devs wanted to buff/nerf a nation, they'd adjust their starting development.
@@firefox3249 I'll accept that ever since the Government reforms and mission trees systems were added new DLCs (and Immersion packs) have had a lot of Power Creep, that's not a completely bad thing though in my eyes as this also contributed a lot to flavour and replayability which is massively important in a game that's more than a decade old. But mission trees aren't exactly a "new phenomenon" - the patch that introduced it was 1.25 (released March 2018). And when you think about it it's just going back to the game's roots as the very first DLC (released alongside game launch) "Purple Phoenix" were sets of events and missions that made Byzantium much easier than if you hadn't bought it.
@DylanSargesson Purple Phoenix didn't affect the balance anywhere near as much as modern focus trees. It was only a couple of events that gave or took monarch points and some cosmetic stuff. Yes, modern mission trees and government reforms give a lot of flavour but they also drastically shift the balance of power in the area towards a few select nations. For example: Gone are the days when tiny nations like Riga offered an interesting challenge for experienced players. You'd have to carefully maneuver your alliances and possibly stock up on some money for mercs simply in order to expand into your much larger neighbours. Now you complete a couple of piss-easy missions and are suddenly a force to be reckoned with from day 1! The devs are also not doing anything to address late game snowballing. Most of my campaigns are effectively over by 1600 as I'm already a force to be reckoned with, at least in the local area, with minimal effort. Just press a few buttons, steal a bit of land and I'm swimming in money, dev and monarch points. Got a bad ruler/heir in charge? No worries! Press button to fix for no real cost, other than some arbitrary restrictions.
Sounds like a feature rich DLC - are you ok Paradox?? Blink twice if GS fans have kidnapped you and forced you to create content actually worth paying for (spoiler: I woulda bought it anyway)
Oman got some love? Finally. I love playing in that area, especially as Oman (the "sea muslims"). Maybe... the countrys name will change to Yemen? Didnt get the joke? You ask one of the Arabian states: The first responds: -Everything good? -Yemen! The other responds: -What about you? -Oman...
Hurry up with EU5. It would take long time and many DLCs until it will be as good as EU4. And stop calling that "Project Caesar", everyone (who needs to know) knows that's EU5.
_____________So, they took it and released a patch on Monday, May 20, in which they corrected their mistake regarding the movement of the detachment, namely, you cannot cancel the movement that has begun to another province, you can only redirect it to another province. Further, Why Otoman demolishes the castle in Constantinople, this was a problem in the last patch. I don’t ask anything more from you, because... I know it will take 5 years to fix it. I'm glad that I stopped buying your "masterpieces"!
Depending on your location you can just buy the game and use the dlc subscription that is 8€/month. That doesn't only give you all DLCs but also all cosmetic packs. Buying DLCs for EU4 at this point is utterly pointless, especially if you wanna get into the game. 510 divided by 8 = ~63 You'd have to basically pay the subscripion for 5 years straight to get to the same price. Just buy EU4, subscribe to the DLCs and unsubscribe when EU5 comes out. That game isn't 5 years away.
@@Slopmachine2i dont know anyone who just plays eu4 for years except youtubers and streamers. i play every dlc for a month or two and then i get a long break from it for a while. so getting a subscription makes sense. i get subscription when i want to play. and cancel when i dont. lot easier to give 8 euros and play for a month. than pay 300 euros and have the game sit majority of the time in library. and who knows, maybe when eu5 gets released i wont be able to have fun in eu4 anymore. like ck3 ruined ck2 for me. ck2 is still a better game with all dlc's and stuff. but UI and everything and is just so old
after playing for 9 years they will finally release the last dlc. kinda sad tbh😥
they said that two dlc's ago
1 DLC closer to Europa Universalis 5!
its been 11 years not 9
@@jesucristobostero3287 read my comment again🤔
@@jesucristobostero3287 He never said he's been playing since it's been released.
I think one final oversight that should be addressed are dynasties, the fact that they’re both an incredibly important mechanic in the game and in history while also being incredibly basic is insane. Like beyond their name there is zero difference between dynasties and there’s no real way of interacting with them dispose them being your royal family.
They should’ve added more interactions with dynasties, through a new menu and such.
Might be something they feature in eu5, here's hoping...
ck3
Last DLC😢
They say that? What timestamp?
@@anonymous1582 Why else would they be talking so openly about "Caesar Project"?
I wouldn't expect EU5 for a couple years. They can squeeze several more DLC into that time.
Oh thank God
@@ItsGroundhogDay Project Ceasar looks about 2-3 years away. That's plenty of time in which devs moved from Eu4 can contribute to PC; Ck2's last DLC came out 2 years before Ck3.
to be honest eu iv one of the best things in my life it was next to me always in hard times I learned I enjoyed it was awesome playing it since 2013 !! we will miss you eu iv
I hope God will keep me alive to play eu 5 new times I hope that we will enjoy it like it's old sister eu 4 😢😢😢
Austria-Hungary Lets go
Poor Mr Burns, he never discovered EU4.
Going back to Mongolia finally?
5:07 Heskîf (Hisn Kayfa) wasn't ,,Persian", but Kurdish. Do not forget that they were the last remnants of the already Kurdish Ayyubid dynasty.
kurds are persian
@@burakahmettr8193 you are the perfect example for why someone shouldn‘t do drugs, you sorry T*rk lmao
He meant persian as in the region persia in eu4
@@maj5140In that case, formulating it as ,,minor Kurdish power in the Persia region“ would have been better, but it is what it is.
Edit: I‘ve noticed that Heskîf isn‘t even part of the Persia region, it‘s actually part of the Anatolia region
Who is with us since EU3 ?🎉
I've been playing the game since it was a box game, and have been playing it since Europa Universalis (1) (which I miss a lot because it was more like the original box game).
Feels good that on the 9th and 10th i got day off from work due to national holiday
yekan, bisa sepuasnya langsung deep dive ke dlc terakhir mahakarya ini
@@elang1702 Yoi kaowkaowkkaowkw
wih anjir bener juga baru sadar w libur
Sad no other cultures except for Inca were develop. Coastal Peru had many powerful kingdoms like the Chimor. Also the Peruvian coast is not depicted in the game, only mountains and jungle... The coast si about 120000 km2 in size (similar in size to England) and where most of the modern Peruvian population lives, a "wet desert" with many rivers giving it life, and civilizations 6000 years old like Caral.
I'm sooooo excited. This is looking like an incredible expansion!!!!
My beloved theodoro and hisn kayfa…
They are going to make those achievements so, so easy to get 😞
Say goodbye to Eu4 and hello to Eu5
and wait for 5 years before there will be content similar to eu4
Can't wait for it to be shit like Victoria 3
The end of an era😢
the end of an era of milking the audience 😢
@@Cizzo8 LOL
No Habsburg Glory. It's kinda sad
Will a custom American nation be able to create colonies in Europe?
Only if their religion is Islam and the European target nation unlocked "leftist ideology" idea.
no because europe is not a colonial area and colonial nations can only be created in those.
@@noreturn2231I meant in the next update
They will
@@andrealampronti1262He just answered. No.
Please have a major sale for game. I can’t afford 510$ aud to pay for the game. I’m a new player
The base game has loads of content. I would strongly recommend against buying the DLC, if you really want the DLC just use the subscription service. EU5 will be out well before the subscription becomes more expensive than buying the DLC.
there is 5$ sub service to play with all the dlcs, instead of buying all for 100s of $
@@ThePuma1707 sub 5 service? It’s 11.50$ per month to rent the game. You don’t own it and you lose everything the moment you stop sub. Why would I do that. Absurd. Paradox create a ‘problem’ with their ludicrous dlc policy and offer a “solution” so you sub instead. If they can’t offer a serious discount I’ll just pirate it
pirate it brooo
@@MaxKemeny It will take a while for eu5 to catch up to eu4 in terms of content
Ya que Paradox Tinto está situada en España, espero que la traducción sea decente, que, últimamente, las traducciones de otros juegos de Paradox han sido pésimas.
Problem now is that I don't really want to play EUIV... I want to play "Project Caesar" instead... 😉
Right? Its just leagues ahead of most of the pdx games
@@smit_1449 we dont know that yet
that's the number one reason devs are hesitant to show off things in development.
Nah, Anbennar mod, made EU4 a game I will never uninstall
Also, on that note, excited for how Anbennar team will use the new content in the mod eventually.
Are there also any changes to the base-game? Or just the Scorpions DLC?
i have a sad feeling that this is the end 😭
If you were still doubting that this will be the final dlc. I think this video settled that.
2:38 why dont you make transylvania a vassal state?! It was a Voievodship.
Going to buy this so don’t worry, but announcing “more Dutch content for the struggle between the stadholders and the House of Orange” was a narrative blunder. The House of Orange *were* the stadholders, please doublecheck your script next time. You meant more content for the struggle between regents (“statists”) and the House of Orange.
Спасибо, мы ждем все с нетерпением, когда наберем достаточное число warscore в регион Рутения и подпишем мирный договор. Усталость от войны все-таки растет, надеюсь бедствия не последуют.
Last dlc Ok ! Finally, I can play this game ... I'm waiting the last dlc for Stellaris 😅
Scotland and Ireland need an update!
They should have added new civs in the Americas a few tags
so when there is eu5 and the cycle is complete.... the next step would be hoi5 ? or a new look at rome ?
The most Spanish dev team and video results in the expansion that has the least for Spain. Lol. Arguably a negative due to rework and buff of American natives.
Spain is one of the most fleshed out nations why do they need more. Also the AI isn’t gonna do a sunset invasion they can’t even handle Ming mechanics.
@alexmason5521 I didn't say Spain needs it, just that it's funny that the Spanish team didn't focus them. Frankly at this point in waiting for them to stop Dlc and patches as I'm tired of having to relearn the game every other time I play
Why are new missions sold in this dlc for nations already updated in previous dlcs?
We now have to pay twice to update the same nation's flavor, missions and mecanics?
I don't appreciate the direction this game is going. Time for EU5 I guess, hoping it won't be like that
Cause you're paying for the Dev's time; in the same way that you have to pay a mechanic every time you go in to get your car fixed/improved, you need to pay game developers every time they fix/improve your game, since, y'know, they have to pay rent, food, and bills whether they're working on a new country or an old one.
First time?
I think you've forgotten about the last few DLCs.
@@jellyrolls2765 of course devs need to be paid. But we also expect a finished product when we buy it.
In this situation, the devs are not "fixing" their game. They are artificially extending its lifetime with small updates that are meant to complete each other, although in contradictory ways, and locked behind a paywall.
If I keep your car mecanic analogy, consider this: you are never buying 3/4 of a tire, even if it somehow works well enough for you. You expect the reseller to give you a full tire, which you pay for. You don't want to get the missing 1/4 tire later, for the full price. Several DLCs spent on the same nation, updating it in various incomplete ways, feel exactly like this.
And this is a dubious practice which I want to see disappear.
Also, see how the same issue is handled by the Custodian team in Stellaris. This is how it should work. And the best part: these Custodian devs also get paid for their time.
So yes, in my view, the business model for EU4 is deeply flawed and earns Paradox my utmost distrust.
@@therealinferno161 you're right, I forgot. Didn't even bother to get them in my library.
Because the content is extra and new. For example all the new flavour in this DLC for Aztecs is on top of and integrated with the old Doom mechanics etc. (which were added to the game nearly a decade ago).
Venice is gonna be red now?
Venice should have blue flag and the teal map color
Not sure if it's a tag or just a name change, but later doen the MT Venice becomes La Serenissima I think, ehich leads to the red color
The sad thing is all the features in our now feature rich eu4.... eu5 we are going to lose half of them and then 5 years after eu5 and dlc we will then get the features back.
Didn't they say that they would include most of these things in eu5?
Don't think so, EU it's their gem they will at least release eu5 with most if not all transferable eu4 features. I'm ready to review bomb if they do not anyway
@@charlesiphone5765Somehow I don't trust that.
@@celeridad6972Judging by their past actions, I don't believe this one bit. Even EU4 itself was missing content from EU3 upon its release and sadly the trend continued after that. HoI4, Victoria 3, Cities Skylines 2 and Crusader Kings 3 were all missing content from their predecessors.
Well hopefully with enough verbal reinforcement that is more positive than just negative... that they will think twice about short changing the loyal fans who have paid time and time again over the years. I but feel like this is a long wish
Does anyone know if this will be included in the dlc subscription
Austria - Hungary? I thought it was called Australia - Hungary
Australia - Hungry
i like what i see
Kinda poetic, last dlc of eu3 was divine wind and the last dlc of eu4 is winds of change. Where the wind blows to the next
👍👍
Could someone tell me the name of the soundtrack
how do u get the VOC?
i won't believe there would be eu5 unless if they say there is, for instance victoria 3 was released and then they started showing dev diaries. i don't trust implications and teasing.
Nice
optimalization dlc??
This guy speaks like an AI with a broken english
Lol
Europe is getting 9999th unnecessary feature, meanwhile the typo in "Lower Yik" is still there. The Caucasus is still wildly incorrect, and Siberia is still just Russia's dinner.
Based
Project Caesar = Imperator Rome
If only...
(It is literally set in 1337-1800s, and we have a good view of it's starting maps and mechanics via the Tinto Talks.)
Europa Universalis V without any doubt
@@delucaluigi2Why Caesar than?
@@mhacker84 They've given most if not all Paradox games a Roman Emperor name so don't read much into it.
Arnaus Casellas? Is he Catalan ?
Yes
Change becons.
So basically just a bunch of mission trees for $20? Yikes.
Cool dlc, now release eu5 without 70% of content that eu4 has
Have you looked ať tímto talks, it looks way more fleshed out than eu4
@@restitutororbis5928 I mean, you can look at ck3 at release…
jajajajaja mejor en español por favor y después colocan subtítulos en ingles
En Paradox solo trabajan Españoles xd
Paradox Tinto
Vic 4 when
Eu6
Wow
I've already pre-purchased this DLC, but am I the only one that thinks the DLC's just make it easier for players to conquer the world as any nation? If an EUV ever gets made, maybe calling it Project Caesar as a placeholder, I hope that the mission trees would be reworked so that for every bonus given, a malus is applied to an integrated component of the game. Rarely in life does everything come up roses, and rather than making things easier for the players, maybe giving us new challenges would be worthwhile? Probably just a pipedream.
that's pretty much any DLC since they started to focus the DLCs on specific reasons. Only mission trees that make said region broken overpowered in the hands of the player. The game gets easier with every DLC.
There's definitely power creep every time new content is added, but that just adds flavour. If pretty much every region has a overpowered mission tree, then really no region has an overpowered mission tree.
@@DylanSargessonNo, this is only a new phenomenon. The good old content had minimal impact on the balance of power if any. Any time the devs wanted to buff/nerf a nation, they'd adjust their starting development.
@@firefox3249 I'll accept that ever since the Government reforms and mission trees systems were added new DLCs (and Immersion packs) have had a lot of Power Creep, that's not a completely bad thing though in my eyes as this also contributed a lot to flavour and replayability which is massively important in a game that's more than a decade old. But mission trees aren't exactly a "new phenomenon" - the patch that introduced it was 1.25 (released March 2018).
And when you think about it it's just going back to the game's roots as the very first DLC (released alongside game launch) "Purple Phoenix" were sets of events and missions that made Byzantium much easier than if you hadn't bought it.
@DylanSargesson Purple Phoenix didn't affect the balance anywhere near as much as modern focus trees. It was only a couple of events that gave or took monarch points and some cosmetic stuff. Yes, modern mission trees and government reforms give a lot of flavour but they also drastically shift the balance of power in the area towards a few select nations. For example:
Gone are the days when tiny nations like Riga offered an interesting challenge for experienced players. You'd have to carefully maneuver your alliances and possibly stock up on some money for mercs simply in order to expand into your much larger neighbours. Now you complete a couple of piss-easy missions and are suddenly a force to be reckoned with from day 1!
The devs are also not doing anything to address late game snowballing. Most of my campaigns are effectively over by 1600 as I'm already a force to be reckoned with, at least in the local area, with minimal effort. Just press a few buttons, steal a bit of land and I'm swimming in money, dev and monarch points. Got a bad ruler/heir in charge? No worries! Press button to fix for no real cost, other than some arbitrary restrictions.
What about AFRICA?😮
Sounds like a feature rich DLC - are you ok Paradox?? Blink twice if GS fans have kidnapped you and forced you to create content actually worth paying for (spoiler: I woulda bought it anyway)
Oman got some love? Finally. I love playing in that area, especially as Oman (the "sea muslims"). Maybe... the countrys name will change to Yemen?
Didnt get the joke?
You ask one of the Arabian states:
The first responds:
-Everything good?
-Yemen!
The other responds:
-What about you?
-Oman...
why doint you paint a masterpiece instead of a map
Dlc yi atacak biri var mı
Why would you call Hisn Kayfa Persian?!
East Africa never fleshed out 😔
wa?
free dlcs was bigger
please do a south east asia dlc
must be high to charge this much not worth the money( have 4,5k hours in the game )
same features lmao. just for other nations
What's the idea? Put all your energy into "Project Caesar" instead! Please ... 🙂
They are finishing eu4 off, getting the game into a final state. At least that's what would make sense to me.
Different teams bro.
they're different people? what are you talking about hermit
anyone else tired of eu4 dlc? whole game costs like a low end pc
why didn't you fix leviathan yet?
Leviathan is fine. It was the initial release patch that had problems (not the DLC), and it was hotfixed and improved in subsequent patches.
holy, Pdox really milks its games, sometimes to a fault.
Hurry up with EU5. It would take long time and many DLCs until it will be as good as EU4. And stop calling that "Project Caesar", everyone (who needs to know) knows that's EU5.
:D
Sister-wife 😋
Wheres soviet union formable
First
_____________So, they took it and released a patch on Monday, May 20, in which they corrected their mistake regarding the movement of the detachment, namely, you cannot cancel the movement that has begun to another province, you can only redirect it to another province. Further, Why Otoman demolishes the castle in Constantinople, this was a problem in the last patch. I don’t ask anything more from you, because... I know it will take 5 years to fix it. I'm glad that I stopped buying your "masterpieces"!
Who are these Clowns, i thought the developers were Swedish??
NGL this game looks old AF
Because it indeed is 😅 still delivers tho
Its from 2014 after all
And it runs like shit too. Still best map game though 👌
I always thought it was a guy seeing her face at the launcher... Anyways, nice once PDX! W content!
It is a guy
@@bydlaq Its a girl, dude
Please have a major sale for game. I can’t afford 510$ aud to pay for the game. I’m a new player
Depending on your location you can just buy the game and use the dlc subscription that is 8€/month. That doesn't only give you all DLCs but also all cosmetic packs. Buying DLCs for EU4 at this point is utterly pointless, especially if you wanna get into the game. 510 divided by 8 = ~63
You'd have to basically pay the subscripion for 5 years straight to get to the same price. Just buy EU4, subscribe to the DLCs and unsubscribe when EU5 comes out. That game isn't 5 years away.
@@noreturn2231 sub is not worth it.. 11.50 a month to rent the game and then what happens if I stop the sub?
@noreturn2231 the dlc subscription is even worse. You just gonna fill their pockets even more slowly
i get 8 euro subscription for a month and get access to all dlc's
@@Slopmachine2i dont know anyone who just plays eu4 for years except youtubers and streamers.
i play every dlc for a month or two and then i get a long break from it for a while.
so getting a subscription makes sense.
i get subscription when i want to play. and cancel when i dont.
lot easier to give 8 euros and play for a month. than pay 300 euros and have the game sit majority of the time in library.
and who knows, maybe when eu5 gets released i wont be able to have fun in eu4 anymore.
like ck3 ruined ck2 for me.
ck2 is still a better game with all dlc's and stuff.
but UI and everything and is just so old