I love that when Jay said he doesn’t like fake engine noises that electric vehicles make, the guy went right to the screen to turn off “propulsion sounds” 🤣🤣
I love that Jay has not lost his sense of reality that most us common people that watch these videos weekly have. Point being just the simple things Jay brings up about something costing $200. To most working class people that’s an expense we wouldn’t want. Jay still understands that even though he obviously isn’t poor by any means lol. Thank you Jay for bringing these videos to us. I have been watching them for years and love them!
In this particular review, he seemed more old fuddy wishing for the old days ,,, side note Ford finally comes out with the performance version and it's horses are half of what they should have been 😑
@@DaveyboyJonez don't know about all of them, but tesla's are designed to be million mile cars. Much of them are way overbuilt. Batts are lasting 200,000 and 300,000 miles in them. I've kept a car that long, though I guess some folks do.
My first car was a 67 Mustang. Always liked the Mustang brand, and I don’t car that they added a different model to the Mustang line. I ordered the MME GTPE last year and have been driving it daily since October 2021. It is amazing. The acceleration from the torque still puts a smile on my face every time. The smooth quiet ride and technology make it a great vehicle for commuting. And as Jay said, zero maintenance (other than tires). I never have to stop at a gas station to refuel. I just plug it in in the garage about 2x a week and charge while I sleep. To me it’s a great combination of performance, style, convenience, economy. And for all you gearheads, which I am, I also have a 68 Camaro convertible in the garage, just so you know I’m not an anti-ICE guy.
thank you for giving the mach-e a chance and sharing your good experience with this car. everyone seems to shutting this car out because it’s mustang that’s electric and an suv
You're best off to plug in every day. Shorter chargers are better for battery health than deeper charges, as is only charging to 80% unless necessary to go higher.
Well we Mopar guys had to suffer through 4cyl. Mitsus called Challenger and 2.2 Turbos called Charger; (I won't even go into the Volare Road Runner) and then still today an ancient Benz E Class 4 door called a Charger - and you're squawking????? I'd be more pissed this is a Mexican dog if I were you. 🇺🇸
Yep, agree. It's outselling the regular Mustang because it's an SUV, not a Mustang. SUVs are WAY more desirable for everyday use and to top it off, because it's electric, it gets a huge write off to boot.
They should have just called it the Thunderbird... The T-Bird has always changed from a two door convertible to a boat and back again.. Besides, Thunderbird has Thunder in it.. very "Electric" sounding.
I have 2021 premium awd. Amazing vehicle. Had one issue with parking brake and got fixed within couple of days. Other than that it has been flawless. Still enjoy it as if it’s the first day I got it. Never gets old
If I bought one of these, the first thing I would do would be to remove the Mustang badges. It is a 5 door crossover. Electric or not, it is not a Mustang. Could have just called it the Mach-E.
You do realize dodge darts were 2 door muscle cars then came back as a little 4 banger 4 door coupe with plastic bubbles for fenders? Even with ford. Have you seen what the thunderbird went through? Times change. You can too. Boomer.
@@stgeorge5862 Darts were economy cars. You could get a trim with a decent engine and suspension, but for every 340 GT that was made, they sold 20 slant-sixes and 318s
I can appreciate the technology. I can appreciate that this is an SUV. An advanced SUV. But it's not a Mustang. It doesn't look like a Mustang. It looks like something a soccer mom might drive. But it doesn't even resemble a Mustang. At least for the most part when changed were made to the Corvette it still resembled a Corvette. Same thing with the dodge charger. It doesn't look like the classic charger. And it's a 4 door! Dame thing with this "Mustang". It's a 4 door SUV.
It just makes Ford look like they were DESPERATE for this car to attract attention, and the only way they could think of was to re-appropriate the name of their 'sportscar'... Agreed, it's probably a great car, but I just hope this doesn't 'backfire' and end up DILLUTING the Mustang badge? When you tell people you have a 'Mustang', will they assume you have a 5.0L 2 door sportscar, or think that you own this electric SUV?
From the front, It resembles a Mustang to me. And if FORD calls it a Mustang, guess what? it's a Mustang!! Get over it, people. it's not that big of a deal.
Surprised that Jay reads so many of cards/letters sent to him. With the stand up shows and constantly working on his many cars, his schedule must be full. I’ve noticed that with so many interviews and conversations there are times that Jay repeats comments that are relevant when discussing details about features. We get references to his 7 litre Ford Galaxy and the cold air box, I think I’ve heard it at least 4 times when discussing air intakes in general. Keep it going Jay, I love the coverage!!
Really too bad they've stopped providing spare tires. I guess new car owners will have to buy run-flats instead of those sporty things. Jay made a great point about getting a new tire and waiting for three days...
I don’t know how Ford does it. My electric car has roadside assistance. Which means in 30 minutes a guy pulls up with my tire for my car. He puts it on. He takes my wheel to the service center. The next day I go there, and my tire is fixed on my wheel.
I had two flats in one month in my Shelby and I had to wait about 7’days each time to get a replacement tire. I almost thought about buying a spare but it cost like 500 dollars
I remember BMW removing the spare tires from their cars starting way back when and pushing the runflat tires as the answer. Owners hated the early runflats as they were so stiff and harsh riding.
I watched this video when it first came out. At the time, I was looking into replacing an aging Chevy Malibu hybrid after five years, 100,000 miles, and a head gasket leak. I tested the Mach-e, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Tesla Model Y, and VW id.4 electric cars. I chose this one. Though I did not get the GT. Good review. I love Jay Leno's garage. Now need to watch the one with the Corvair again.
What's Dave supposed to say? He hates the car but my employer is making me talk it up? Like it or not, this is the direction Ford (and every other manufacturer) is going. They said it at the beginning: the Mach E is outselling the Mustang proper. Keeping the Mustang name alive by making it a sub-brand is a good thing.
@@michaellorenz7177 Nah.. just silly; like the Chinese buying MG, which was a British sports car and calling a cheap Chinese made hatchback an MG.. it's laughable.
@@LawrenceRoss1906 Mustang it's not, it's a Mach E with a name added to sell. You can call a turtle a Porsche, but it doesn't make the turtle more sporty.
The Mustang Mach-E represents a great effort by Ford to be competitive in the EV market. The styling is impressive, and the performance is solid. The rear-wheel drive with the long range battery gets up to 310 miles of range. This is all good news!
They should have called it the Ford Model E. Rub some of the T stuff all over it, plus it would have shown that Ford was on a roll, realizing it was time. The Mustang Mach E, not so much.
I'm only 40 and im old fashioned in alot of ways. I like a simple car no fancy touch screens no nob to change gears, no back up camera blind spot warning. My blind spot is called paying attention.
I’m the same age, and will take the additional step in saying I prefer a manual transmission.. but I 100% agree with everything you said.. think the sweet spot is about 2008 which is right about when they added the zoomer features
The sweet spot is any 2011-2014 S197. New engines (5.0, 3.7) and 6 speed transmissions, still analog enough to feel old school, but not so much a pain to daily.
Really good review. I'm 55 and getting my first Mustang in a few months. It's the I.C.E. version of the GT. I'm not ready to jump on the E-revolution for a variety of reasons. While I don't really mind that Ford has an E-version of a Mustang, I'm confused of an SUV version, if that makes sense. While there's a lot of good to say about progress, there's also a lot to say about those things that people can make and feel. Gone will be the days of working on your own car. While I know that many people will gravitate to this new generation, I'm still liking when people say that their Mustang (or whatever ICE car they have) is 'built, not bought." Now, the car is plugged it into a computer/charger, hit the 'enter' button and complete an upgrade. I'm probably romanticizing too much. Thanks, Jay and Ford-guy.
Keep your ICE forever. Ford has yet to make a mustang EV. But what they did make was a Ford Escape EV. And called it a mustang. Mustangs as everyone knows is not a suv. Does not have 4 doors. Everything about calling the Mach E a mustang is a joke and is all about marketing.
@KingLouisV Yup, and that's why @1:53 he couldn't even put a number to it - "...now that we've sold, so many of them..." LOL! I love that Ford is furthering the BEV philosophy even if it's by chasing Tesla taillights down the road, but the goof that authorized naming this thing "Mustang" should never be allowed to brand anything.
I say if you're gonna make a mustang..make a freakin' mustang and not a freakin' crossover. I'll still buy it even if it doesn't go vroom vroom. Just make a mustang.
putting the Mustang name on a crossover or SUV is about the most disrespectful thing you can do to the Mustang brand. Ford ether needs to put this technology in a coupe or they just need to stop making Mustangs.
Appreciate how Jay was willing to describe things he didn't like, but did it in a kindly manner. E.g., the lack of a spare tire. The need to look down at the gearshift knob (and screen) rather than grabbing a big shifter. The cues to gas powered cars that don't make sense for electric (but are probably needed to coax folks to accept it). Re: the pointless front grille, one other possibility: the grille has always been a big part of the "face" of a car. Maybe even the most distinctive part. So, what happens if it only has "eyes," no "mouth"? Especially in these days when huge mouths are the fashion. Can they make that look good? An idea for the frunk: make a gas generator, or extra battery pack, that can drop into that space for long distance driving. True it would add a lot of weight and probably make a mess out of driving dynamics, but might be worth it if it increases range by at least 100 miles.
I can’t imagine these things at car shows forty years from now with the hoods propped - engine bays from the past are a big part of the interest in vehicles- cars are becoming nothing more than just utility
Yeah, they're about as interesting as fridges or washing machines. I cannot understand, for example how folks get so excited about new cell phones. it's different with internal combustion powered cars.
@@dansanger5340 Oh yes, I do keep up with developments with them, but I'm afraid that I can't get excited about them. I'm glad that people do find them stimulating though as, whether I like it or not, they're here to stay.
I want to drive to NJ from NM in 3 days, not 4 (or longer). I don't want to sit idle while my car recharges. Nothing like getting 500 miles (or more) on a tank of gas, 10 minute fill up, and back on the road.
LOL You are delusional. Cannon Ball Run CA to NY should take about 2 Days 48hours in this thing. NJ to NM is way shorter. You are soo ignorantly outdated.
Gas car owners spend 9 hours a year fueling their cars. EV owners plus the car in when they go to bed. Road trips are a blast in EVs. Fuel costs 75% less, and 20 minutes gives me enough charge to get me to my next bio break. Which, sadly, seems to take the whole 20 minutes, when you add in picking up a drink and a snack!
@@Neojhun 48 hours to recharge from NY to CA? Or are you stopping the clock during the recharge? Because you certainly can't sleep 3 times a day while you recharge.
Jay.. Talking about car speeds from 0 to 60 I remember an article from either road and track or car and driver from 1988 in which the editor firmly believed cars would never make it to under 5 seconds 0 to 60. I remember counting out in my head from 0 to 4 and thinking how could a car ever go that fast, this guy must be right, LOL
As much as I love Mustangs, and always will, I must say that they fell short on styling for this model. It does look like an SUV especially with the 4 doors! Just not the same this year.
I think this car is for people that drive suv's can pretend to be cool by saying "I drive a Mustang"...they missed the que on the naming of it in my opinion. This isn't a Mustang.
@@DK-pr9ny It is nice looking but I think it lost a lot of the style that made Mustang what it is. I can live with it being electric, but I think they lost it with the 4 doors and the SUV look.
24:00-If I'm not mistaken, the late Sixties Ford Thunderbird had something like that as well. As for the Mustang Mach-E, one might consider that Porsche was largely known for its two-door roadsters until it started coming out with crossovers some years back. What I see with the Mustang is something along those lines. I myself have no issue with the Mach-E, and in fact, think it's a very cool alternative to Tesla!!! PS: I've seen them in person in Massachusetts, and they look great!!!
so I wonder how that push button door handle thing would fully work in some of these winter states like Wisconsin where your doors and your cars will freeze shut
Had a Mach e and it was in the shop 75%of the time I owned it. Was able to get 2100 miles on it before the electronics went out. Took ford over a month to buy it back. Car was in the shop 68days and it was still being worked on when ford bought it back.
Sandy Munro tore down the Mach-E to the component level and was shocked by all the hoses and wiring. He said they will have to a do a lot of reengineering to make it compete with the reliability of the Teslas. Let's hope Ford gets the F-150 Lightning right!
All people who care about Mustang as the ultimate Ford will be dead in a few decades. They're not marketing to you, they're marketing to future buyers. - Remember all the main car makes are 10 years behind on E.V branding since they're dinosaurs catching up.
I like any video Jay puts up,but I much prefer when he does his own cars or another individual he invites to talk about their car,but when he has corporate brass come on and just talk about how much better their product is than the competition,it kinda turns me off and kind of tacky....JMO
Saw my first one at a winery at the north end of the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York. It looked really good and was wearing Connecticut plates. Saw my second one at the Ford display at the Woodward Cruise event this year. I emphatically exclaimed that the United States is V8 country and that the V8 powers America on it's highways and bi-ways. - After thinking about this thing for a while, and hearing the current sales figures, this car will probably be a big go for Ford and the electric car segment. Time will tell. I will say, the experience of driving a reworked Mustang GT is like no other and puts a big smile on everyone in the car during those fun moments. Both are unique! G.
Very nice informative video, Jay. Thanks. BTW, you may have already implied it earlier in this video, but I suspect one of the reasons Ford chose to name it a Mustang was to also show Ford's commitment to the new EV. Quite possibly, if they named it anything else, many might have considered it more of a joke. Naming it a Mustang showed their followers that Ford is dead serious about their commitment to the technology and to this model in particular. And so it seems. Risky? Apparently not from Ford's perspective. At least not anymore. :) Thanks again. I'm awaiting delivery of my 2nd Mach E Gt which should arrive in 1 week.
The biggest issue with EV Mustang vs a Tesla is not the car itself (although Tesla gets better range), it is the fact the Tesla has the best and dedicated charging network in America. Not only do they charge faster, but within your car you can see on the screen where the available stations are but more importantly real on the spot information as to how many units are being used, how many are available and so on. They are also owned and maintained by Tesla. Ford or any other company for that matter does not have this and your are sort of at the mercy of these third-party charging stations, many of which are a franchise and often attached to regular gas stations. And often they may not be operating, or not have a fast-charger, etc. A TH-cam channel I follow, MKBHD (tech related with over 15 million subs) last October did a great comparison. He took his Tesla Plaid, a Mustang EV (I forget what trim level) and an Audi with a standard V8. They went on a 1,000 mile trip in the upstate New York area, stopping as needed to charge or fill with gas. Long story short, the Audi made the route in the quickest, Tesla a very close second, and the Mustang a distant third. Why? The available charging station information the Mustang was getting was woefully inaccurate and often they would pull up only to find the station closed or the charging units not working. The other point is with Tesla you have one account, one payment system, etc. and get detailed information constantly. But with Ford or others you may have to have several accounts with all these several third-party operators, using their apps, relying on their payment systems and so on. And there is the biggest rub with anything other than a Tesla. The Mustang is doing great because heck… It has the Mustang name and it was smart of Ford to capitalize on that. But no other brand can come close to Tesla. Again, not the car itself, but it’s the infrastructure that is the key!
Unpopular opinion: yes, it does look like a Mustang. Look at the silhouette as it comes into focus at 0:18. In the first few seconds, you can absolutely see the outline of the Mustang coupe. Yes, the proportions have been tweaked a little to raise it up and fit four doors, but the basic Mustang shape is still there. It's about as good as a modern four-door Mustang could possibly have looked. And the idea of a four-door Mustang goes back to the original 1964 concept cars - a four-door version was an option they considered from the beginning, but in the '60s, it made more sense to just do a two-door body style. The Mustang was advertised as a jack of all trades, and early ads even pitched it as a family car. At the time, 2 doors on a family car wasn't unusual. Now, 4 doors and a higher ride height on a sports car isn't unusual. It could be said that the Mach-E is closer in design philosophy to the original Mustang than the current coupe is. I just wish the car's fan base wasn't so narrow-minded about it.
The Mustang was never the jack of all trades family car, it was a pony car made to be an affordable muscle car. This is an overpriced grocery getter that is targeted toward the lowest common denominator forgetting it’s main demographic, just like that concept you mentioned that thank god never took off. And the mustang Mach-E being good looking is an opinion but saying this thing looks more like a mustang than it’s predecessor is just a strait lie. I could say more but I don’t want to write an essay.
1960 Ford base 2door Falcon, 3 on the column, 13" wheels ...wonderfull vehicle then and now, cruise control not necessary...too much traffic. Great video.
But a 4 cylinder “Mustang” isn’t? Who makes up the rules on what a Mustang is? Oh that’s right Ford the owners of the name. The MachE GT is faster than 90% of all production mustangs but “it’s not a real Mustang I want the slower one because it’s traditional” SMH
@@jerryp3551 I know that definitions are a hard concept for someone such as yourself living in a world of ever changing pronouns and such. But hey, get yourself one of those gay EV’s. A “Mach E” is perfect for your non-binary lifestyle. 😂
Electric vehicles will not work in the large rural states. Until they are able to go 500+ miles in the winter, they will always be urban vehicles. Light trucks/SUVs that have only 100 mile ranges towing a camper in the winter is just not going to replace ICE light trucks. Most of the places we go camping in Oregon do not have charging stations
Pointless, BEVs do not need to cover every use case. If you need more than 400 Miles don't bother with BEVs. There is not even enough Production Capacity for people who only need 400 miles or less. I live in freaking Australia, I would never use a BEV to go into The OutBack. But I would not use a freaking Expedition 4x4 to commute in our megacities. Different tools for different jobs.
How many ICE vehicles can go 500 miles in the winter? Very few. As for electric vehicles that can go 500 miles (although maybe not in winter), there is already one on the market. The Lucid Air has been tested in the real world as being capable of going 500 miles at 70 MPH on the highway, and probably farther at lower speeds.
For everyone that drives 500+ miles a day, and never gets near a highway, this won’t work. That currently rules out Alaska, South America, Africa, and Australia, if you drive 500+ miles per day.
I like electric cars and their electromechanical superiority. Having said that, my biggest concerns are end of service life environmental impacts regarding battery material mining practices and disposal methods, coupled with the fact that this country's power generation and grid system is not up to the task of supporting the move to electric vehicles. We're putting the cart before the horse, if you'll pardon the pun. There's also the issues of the government having total control over your vehicle and car theft by hacking. So while I'm hopeful for this shift, I'm also pragmatically skeptical. But thank you Jay for always delivering a stellar presentation!
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 I have two cars, both twenty + years old. My problem with some electric cars is that when the battery needs replacing - owners won't, because the cost of the new battery will be more than the car is worth - therefore what in the UK insurers would call a 'write-off'. If this proves to be true in the future, then electric cars will not last as long on the road as petrol / diesel cars. You could have a situation where in the lifetime of a petrol/ diesel car, two or three electric cars have to be made - therefore overall the total environmental issues caused per each electric car built could be more than per petrol/ diesel car. I may be proven wrong, but I don't like the way we are all being encouraged to dash headlong towards electric cars - after all this is what happened with diesel cars - and look how that turned out! I have nothing against electric cars, but believe we should still keep our eyes open on other alternatives - fuel cell, bio-fuel and hydrogen cars for example.
Well they certainly learned their lesson on a few model names, i.e. Escort and Probe. You gotta wonder what they were thinking especially with the Probe.
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 Mustang was born as an American Sports Car Icon. 🤣 I guess its time for US cars to go through "Identity Crisis" or "Gender Identity," just like its people.
“I like the old cruise-omatic” ‘’’does a pulling motion with hand over gear selector’’’ J’s trying, g-d bless him he’s trying, tht grey is strtn to really show up 😋😋
few thing about electric cars is 1- amount of money you save in ten years is less than how much more you pay to purchase the car so you save $7000 on gas in ten years for example but the car cost you $12000 more to buy ,and that's if you keep the car that long, if you keep it 3 or 5 years it's even worst 2- how much the battery pack cost and how long they last is equal or more than regular maintenance of gas cars 3- parts that needs to be changed are way more expensive than gas cars, like the gas pedal wires and labor that's why Jay or the Ford guy never mentioned the battery life, the price and labor cost!! how long does it take to charge on charging station or regular 110 volt at home those clean electricity that we are talking about are also produced by coal power plant or other fuel plant, so it's not so clean ,it's just you don't see it in the city like pollution over LA or NY, that brown haze BY THE WAY THIS IS STILL SUV NOT A MUSTANG!😂😂
It insults a car guy when a salesman is selling you a vanilla crossover and calls it a Mustang. For one, this thing won't spin out and mow down people at Cars and Coffee events.
I recently drove the Mach-e GT performance. the acceleration is insane but so linear that it wasn’t exciting after a while, the brakes are perfect and have a great pedal feel. I didn't find the steering very communicative, the car feels downright heavy in sharp bends. On short bumps I also found the car restless and not very pleasant (seems like a huge challenge to make such a heavy SUV sporty and comfy at the same time). I also found the finish and materials to be substandard. There were quite some squeaks and rattles and the B&O system was a let down. I was impressed with the grip the car has and I thought the “fake engine noise” was nicely done.
You raised a very interesting point about lack of wear and tear and maintenance etc So if you get the chance Jay, next time are they thinking about battery swaps in say 10 or 15 years Or if battery cell technology moves on, can you upgrade and improve power and range and then motor tech moves on too ?
Yes, I agree. The cost of replacing the battery or even the motor. People don’t think of that. Ironically, a Mercedes’ hybrid owner has to replace the battery in his Mercedes’ and the cost is 20 000$ and the vehicle isn’t worth that.
@@pugnos1Edit! I was replying to the wrong comment. Haha. The million mile battery spec is determined by accelerated lab testing. I suppose we’ll see how that goes in real life. Even if we get half of that, then that would be pretty amazing. There have been some older Model S’s with newer battery tech that have crossed the half million mile mark.
I love the technology on the EVs. My problem is with the time it takes to "fill the tank" with energy. When they can charge the battery in the same time that it take to fill up with gas (Petrol), that is when I will buy one for lang road trips.
How often do you go more than 250 miles? Having to wait 30 Minutes on rare occasions is very worth it. When vast majority of the time it takes 30 SECONDs of your time to charge on Level 2 slow charging. Unlike a Gas Pump you're not supposed to walk away forget about it and do something else. You also can't have a Gas Pump at your Residential Home. Short DC Fast Charging time is only useful for people who FREQUENTLY drive more than a single charge. The difference in time spent charging for most people is no different to Petrol.
@@Neojhun Actually, when I lived in a very rural area, I did have a petrol pump at my house. I had to crank it, but it pumped petrol into my tank. And yes, I do travel more than 250 miles many times.
@@markemanuele1929 Then you are in the very rare 1%, most people are NOT in your situation, your situation could change at any moment especially depending on your age, health and other issues.
95% of people are not going to BE driving 300 miles at a time except during summer vacation or something, most people will be driving to/from work, shopping, the dentist, taking kids to school, etc., like th egas tank, you "fill" the batteries and drive for days or longer before having to refill again. In my case I live 1/2 mile from work, I come home for lunch, so I put on 2 miles a day on a moped that gets 80 mpg and uses 1/2 a quart of oil for oil changes. If I had an EV one charge would easily last many weeks and then I could charge it at home. On occasion I drive to a city 35 miles away for a Menards, or another city that is 18 miles away, neither trip would need any kind of additional charging.
4 doors. Not a Mustang. They didn't electrify the mustang, they hinted at it's styling and badged a grocery getter with it's name. It might be super fast, but it has 4 doors... A mustang is a pony, this thing is not a pony car. I'm sure it's dope, but that doesn't mean it's true mustang. Ford calls it a mustang, but does anybody really think of it as a mustang?
Most common used selling point, "low center of gravity" 12:24 . But that isn't going to completely offset how much EVs weigh in comparison to their oil based siblings. My next daily driver will be an electric. I'm excited for this new movement, but I will always be a gear head and long for the sound of a V8 rumbling by.
Can honestly say I still love the keypad on my f150. It's just a nice thing to have. When I randomly need something out of the vehicle you can just type the code and grab it instead of getting your phone or keys.
Love the channel and show Jay! I'm curious when you will discuss the future of these batteries, how long they'll last (I doubt a 1/2 a million miles), and what will be done to fix, replace, regen. The big issue is, how will thousands will be disposed of.
@@MICHGO1 There are plenty of companies into it while it's new. Is anyone saying what you do with your car once the batteries are depleted? I was told, it'll last 100,00 miles, after that you'll be done with the car. I have seen bills of $20k to replace a Tesla battery. It doesn't cost $20k to replace a gas engine. Just asking is there a solid plan, or we'll cross that bridge when we get to it...
@@Broncostu 100k miles is the warranty of the batteries. Not the life span. At 100k miles Tesla batteries have shown to have lost 8% of their state of charge. Which means the batteries will outlast the car itself. I'd like to see a gas motor with that kind of performance
“Hey were running outa computer chips!” No worries just make more electric cars that need more computers that we don’t have. Then charge it off an already struggling electrical grid bringing the price of power up. How many EV can we make before it turns into a lithium shortage AND a chip shortage???
@@ldnwholesale8552 In 2020, Australia produce 46.3% of lithium, Chile 23.9%, and China 16.2%. Russia's production is so small it doesn't even register.
The majority of chips the automakers are short of are old ones that control seats and such. Also- my guess is there may actually be less chips in an electric car because they have combined a bunch of these functions into more modern CPU. -I could be wrong but I'd make the bet.
@@1Jbeats There already is a real oil shortage? Why do you think gas prices are so high? Demand for gas shot up when countries stopped locking down for COVID, and the supply couldn't keep up.
I remember when I was in grade school with a friend walked to a Ford dealership near our school and we looked at a 1967 Mustang on the showroom floor. It was nice and shiny and new.
I love that when Jay said he doesn’t like fake engine noises that electric vehicles make, the guy went right to the screen to turn off “propulsion sounds” 🤣🤣
Saw that too
I'm glad he said it. Now companies will think twice about adding it. Jay is a big hitter in the auto world.
I like it alot. Porsche did the sound the right way in tycan.
It's entirely optional and easy to switch that's the good part.
Ford does this on the V6 Raptor. Fake exhaust sounds through the speakers.
I love that Jay has not lost his sense of reality that most us common people that watch these videos weekly have. Point being just the simple things Jay brings up about something costing $200. To most working class people that’s an expense we wouldn’t want. Jay still understands that even though he obviously isn’t poor by any means lol. Thank you Jay for bringing these videos to us. I have been watching them for years and love them!
Jay is my template for honesty.
Nice engines to show off. No thanks. Pieces of Sht when they need new batteries
In this particular review, he seemed more old fuddy wishing for the old days ,,, side note Ford finally comes out with the performance version and it's horses are half of what they should have been 😑
Me too I love the show
@@DaveyboyJonez don't know about all of them, but tesla's are designed to be million mile cars. Much of them are way overbuilt. Batts are lasting 200,000 and 300,000 miles in them. I've kept a car that long, though I guess some folks do.
My first car was a 67 Mustang. Always liked the Mustang brand, and I don’t car that they added a different model to the Mustang line. I ordered the MME GTPE last year and have been driving it daily since October 2021. It is amazing. The acceleration from the torque still puts a smile on my face every time. The smooth quiet ride and technology make it a great vehicle for commuting. And as Jay said, zero maintenance (other than tires). I never have to stop at a gas station to refuel. I just plug it in in the garage about 2x a week and charge while I sleep. To me it’s a great combination of performance, style, convenience, economy. And for all you gearheads, which I am, I also have a 68 Camaro convertible in the garage, just so you know I’m not an anti-ICE guy.
thank you for giving the mach-e a chance and sharing your good experience with this car. everyone seems to shutting this car out because it’s mustang that’s electric and an suv
So histoically the Mustang is notoriously kind of a crappy built car, how do you feel the Mach e is built on a scale of one to ten?
What the hell is a MMEGTPE........Is that a vitamin or something from the Pharmacy..???....Paul
Great reply! I also own a 2023 Mach E GT PE and I absolutely love it. Love the Horsepower and torque combo.
You're best off to plug in every day. Shorter chargers are better for battery health than deeper charges, as is only charging to 80% unless necessary to go higher.
my 2021 Mach e is such a joy to drive !
Jay Leno never let’s me down on his humorous uptakes on cars, he’s great 👍
FUD Muck-e is a CLOWN car.
*lets
@@markplott4820 I hate electric cars
@@TechyGamerVibeZ - why ? what did an Electric car do to you , where did it hurt you.
or are you a GAS Snowflake ?
I have no problem with a Mustang being electric. My problem is calling a four-door SUV a Mustang.
Absolutely agree
That's what kills it for me. Plus, this thing is too similar to the body Tesla uses and I think we've all seen enough of those.
Well we Mopar guys had to suffer through 4cyl. Mitsus called Challenger and 2.2 Turbos called Charger; (I won't even go into the Volare Road Runner) and then still today an ancient Benz E Class 4 door called a Charger - and you're squawking????? I'd be more pissed this is a Mexican dog if I were you. 🇺🇸
it's their car. they can call it whatever they like. lol
I have a problem with Mustangs being electric. I have issues with EV garbage in general.
The look on the guy's face after Jay says that 27:59 😂😂😂 Then frantically looking through the settings to turn it off.
LOL
I’m glad someone else noticed that lmao the look of sheer panic
They should have just called it the Mach E it would have sold just as well . There was no real reason other than marketing to call it a Mustang
Yep, agree. It's outselling the regular Mustang because it's an SUV, not a Mustang. SUVs are WAY more desirable for everyday use and to top it off, because it's electric, it gets a huge write off to boot.
Probably would have sold more
Same thoughts!
@@brandonnixon7105 absolutely they were not SUVs
They should have just called it the Thunderbird... The T-Bird has always changed from a two door convertible to a boat and back again.. Besides, Thunderbird has Thunder in it.. very "Electric" sounding.
I have 2021 premium awd. Amazing vehicle. Had one issue with parking brake and got fixed within couple of days. Other than that it has been flawless. Still enjoy it as if it’s the first day I got it. Never gets old
Jay Leno: The Great American Car Story Teller. Thanks for having Dave again.
If I bought one of these, the first thing I would do would be to remove the Mustang badges. It is a 5 door crossover. Electric or not, it is not a Mustang. Could have just called it the Mach-E.
lol
Thunderbolt is a better name with Ford heritage.
Says the guy that will never own one.
You do realize dodge darts were 2 door muscle cars then came back as a little 4 banger 4 door coupe with plastic bubbles for fenders? Even with ford. Have you seen what the thunderbird went through? Times change. You can too. Boomer.
@@stgeorge5862 Darts were economy cars. You could get a trim with a decent engine and suspension, but for every 340 GT that was made, they sold 20 slant-sixes and 318s
I can appreciate the technology. I can appreciate that this is an SUV. An advanced SUV. But it's not a Mustang. It doesn't look like a Mustang. It looks like something a soccer mom might drive. But it doesn't even resemble a Mustang. At least for the most part when changed were made to the Corvette it still resembled a Corvette. Same thing with the dodge charger. It doesn't look like the classic charger. And it's a 4 door! Dame thing with this "Mustang". It's a 4 door SUV.
It just makes Ford look like they were DESPERATE for this car to attract attention, and the only way they could think of was to re-appropriate the name of their 'sportscar'...
Agreed, it's probably a great car, but I just hope this doesn't 'backfire' and end up DILLUTING the Mustang badge?
When you tell people you have a 'Mustang', will they assume you have a 5.0L 2 door sportscar, or think that you own this electric SUV?
@@StreetPreacherr Dude. The only mustang that's faster is the $100,000+ GT500. It's an SUV, but it is NOT slow.
Should have just called it the Mach E… drop mustang. But the name got people talkin
From the front, It resembles a Mustang to me. And if FORD calls it a Mustang, guess what? it's a Mustang!! Get over it, people. it's not that big of a deal.
I would have chosen - Galaxy per Galax-E?
Just bought a 2022 mach-e gt, LOVE IT
I love all the automobile history that Jay injects into these conversations. Very informative and entertaining!
Surprised that Jay reads so many of cards/letters sent to him. With the stand up shows and constantly working on his many cars, his schedule must be full. I’ve noticed that with so many interviews and conversations there are times that Jay repeats comments that are relevant when discussing details about features. We get references to his 7 litre Ford Galaxy and the cold air box, I think I’ve heard it at least 4 times when discussing air intakes in general. Keep it going Jay, I love the coverage!!
Really too bad they've stopped providing spare tires. I guess new car owners will have to buy run-flats instead of those sporty things. Jay made a great point about getting a new tire and waiting for three days...
I don’t know how Ford does it. My electric car has roadside assistance. Which means in 30 minutes a guy pulls up with my tire for my car. He puts it on. He takes my wheel to the service center. The next day I go there, and my tire is fixed on my wheel.
@@garywiseman5080 that wouldn't be the case on every road. If you are on a camping trip with no cell phone signal, you are screwed.
We'll just mount them on the "frunk", like an old-school Land Rover. That'll be good for aerodynamics.
I had two flats in one month in my Shelby and I had to wait about 7’days each time to get a replacement tire. I almost thought about buying a spare but it cost like 500 dollars
I remember BMW removing the spare tires from their cars starting way back when and pushing the runflat tires as the answer. Owners hated the early runflats as they were so stiff and harsh riding.
Man Dave Pericak just gives me that used car salesman vibe. If he told me water was wet I'd have to think about it before I believed him.
It's because he hates the car but has to feed his children.
I was thinking the same thing!
Yeah, I was about to moan about them having got a marketing guy on to do the show. Then I looked him up and realised he's not the marketing guy.
He gives me the same vibe. I much prefer the way Franz von Holzhausen comes across (shame the wayTesla service is so bad though).
Yes. Every sentence he utters, he’s looking for an opportunity to sell something.
impressive how Leno is able to just drill down to the essence of what electrification means for cars
I watched this video when it first came out. At the time, I was looking into replacing an aging Chevy Malibu hybrid after five years, 100,000 miles, and a head gasket leak. I tested the Mach-e, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Tesla Model Y, and VW id.4 electric cars. I chose this one. Though I did not get the GT. Good review. I love Jay Leno's garage. Now need to watch the one with the Corvair again.
These two are by far the best combination they both are entertaining and knowledgeable!
Accept the fact they both are lying about talking about a mustang.
They should have revived "Thunderbird" for this. Makes too much sense to me.
I actually think that's a good idea!
Ford Maverick is a truck now 😂..
Ford “thunderbolt” would have been nice too
Sometimes you get true car guy to represent a car... Sometimes you get a marketing guy...
It’s always the same guy from Ford Jay meets and he’s always on edge to please snd make Ford look good
Yeah Jay, now listen to this Jay...Jay, you gotta see this!
@@superbuddyfranklin ya man won a le mans ,so he is saying smtg luckily.. there guys now driving a Toyota and saying they know the full tech
What's Dave supposed to say? He hates the car but my employer is making me talk it up? Like it or not, this is the direction Ford (and every other manufacturer) is going. They said it at the beginning: the Mach E is outselling the Mustang proper. Keeping the Mustang name alive by making it a sub-brand is a good thing.
@@michaellorenz7177 Nah.. just silly; like the Chinese buying MG, which was a British sports car and calling a cheap Chinese made hatchback an MG.. it's laughable.
I never thought i would see a hatchback, 4 door, suv, mustang 🤨😵💫🤯
This is only called a “Mustang” because they realised that nobody would pay these prices for a Ford badged crossover.
FUD motor will be BANKRUPT in 2023.
And...that's why you have a marketing department. To figure these things out and make money. So Mustang it is.
@@LawrenceRoss1906 - TESLA does MORE, with ZERO fluff and ZERO marketing.
Honestly yes. I would have been more interested if it had another name.
@@LawrenceRoss1906 Mustang it's not, it's a Mach E with a name added to sell. You can call a turtle a Porsche, but it doesn't make the turtle more sporty.
The Mustang Mach-E represents a great effort by Ford to be competitive in the EV market. The styling is impressive, and the performance is solid. The rear-wheel drive with the long range battery gets up to 310 miles of range. This is all good news!
The first year car having lots of problems is even more relevant today, as it was was in the past.
💯
Yup when they first came out in 64 they had problems and were already antiquated
They should have called it the Ford Model E. Rub some of the T stuff all over it, plus it would have shown that Ford was on a roll, realizing it was time. The Mustang Mach E, not so much.
Good idea it gives a tesla feeling and gives credit to good ol model t
I'm only 40 and im old fashioned in alot of ways. I like a simple car no fancy touch screens no nob to change gears, no back up camera blind spot warning. My blind spot is called paying attention.
I’m the same age, and will take the additional step in saying I prefer a manual transmission.. but I 100% agree with everything you said.. think the sweet spot is about 2008 which is right about when they added the zoomer features
The sweet spot is any 2011-2014 S197. New engines (5.0, 3.7) and 6 speed transmissions, still analog enough to feel old school, but not so much a pain to daily.
"no knob to change gears" you like your gear stick with no knob?
@@krusher74 no electric knob
Really good review. I'm 55 and getting my first Mustang in a few months. It's the I.C.E. version of the GT. I'm not ready to jump on the E-revolution for a variety of reasons. While I don't really mind that Ford has an E-version of a Mustang, I'm confused of an SUV version, if that makes sense. While there's a lot of good to say about progress, there's also a lot to say about those things that people can make and feel. Gone will be the days of working on your own car. While I know that many people will gravitate to this new generation, I'm still liking when people say that their Mustang (or whatever ICE car they have) is 'built, not bought." Now, the car is plugged it into a computer/charger, hit the 'enter' button and complete an upgrade. I'm probably romanticizing too much. Thanks, Jay and Ford-guy.
Keep your ICE forever. Ford has yet to make a mustang EV. But what they did make was a Ford Escape EV. And called it a mustang. Mustangs as everyone knows is not a suv. Does not have 4 doors. Everything about calling the Mach E a mustang is a joke and is all about marketing.
I have blizzaks for the winter on my GT PE. It's quite the sled! The range definitely suffers but it handles like a dream during Michigan winters!
Kudos to Dave for being able to call this thing a Mustang that many times with a straight face. He's a real company man through and through.
I will never call it a mustang!!
@KingLouisV Yup, and that's why @1:53 he couldn't even put a number to it - "...now that we've sold, so many of them..." LOL!
I love that Ford is furthering the BEV philosophy even if it's by chasing Tesla taillights down the road, but the goof that authorized naming this thing "Mustang" should never be allowed to brand anything.
I know. Hard to watch. Got to keep the climate grift going.
He deserves a award. He knows how cringe it is to try and call it a mustang.
I say if you're gonna make a mustang..make a freakin' mustang and not a freakin' crossover. I'll still buy it even if it doesn't go vroom vroom. Just make a mustang.
Waaaahhhh
I think they’ll make it a sub brand
True, doesn't look anything like a Mustang, it doesn't even look American
They put the mustang name on a 2.3l 4-cylinder in the 80s… this is fine.
@@WorldwideWyatt and amazingly the mustang has been around long enough for them to screw up again.
putting the Mustang name on a crossover or SUV is about the most disrespectful thing you can do to the Mustang brand. Ford ether needs to put this technology in a coupe or they just need to stop making Mustangs.
At 29:19, I see the Apple Watch ringing and everything in every fiber of my being just wants to say "do you need to get that?" LOL
Appreciate how Jay was willing to describe things he didn't like, but did it in a kindly manner. E.g., the lack of a spare tire. The need to look down at the gearshift knob (and screen) rather than grabbing a big shifter. The cues to gas powered cars that don't make sense for electric (but are probably needed to coax folks to accept it).
Re: the pointless front grille, one other possibility: the grille has always been a big part of the "face" of a car. Maybe even the most distinctive part. So, what happens if it only has "eyes," no "mouth"? Especially in these days when huge mouths are the fashion. Can they make that look good?
An idea for the frunk: make a gas generator, or extra battery pack, that can drop into that space for long distance driving. True it would add a lot of weight and probably make a mess out of driving dynamics, but might be worth it if it increases range by at least 100 miles.
I can’t imagine these things at car shows forty years from now with the hoods propped - engine bays from the past are a big part of the interest in vehicles- cars are becoming nothing more than just utility
Yeah, they're about as interesting as fridges or washing machines. I cannot understand, for example how folks get so excited about new cell phones. it's different with internal combustion powered cars.
I'm just the opposite. I had little interest in cars until electric cars came out. Now, I follow all the new EV introductions.
@@dansanger5340 Oh yes, I do keep up with developments with them, but I'm afraid that I can't get excited about them. I'm glad that people do find them stimulating though as, whether I like it or not, they're here to stay.
Oooh check out my motor and obsolete battery.
@@dansanger5340 what interests you about them?
Lowered 10mm. That’s a whole .39” folks!
He sounded so excited when he said "it's illuminated" 🤣
Ford took his soul away with this project.
@@gustavoflorio5383 I don't know about that. He seemed genuinely enthusiastic about it.
@@slargo83 he's paid a lot of money to fake it..
I'm waiting for the Mustang Mini Van, so excited!!
Love the casual conversations about these vehicles. Way better than any salesman in the showroom!
Great show! Love Jay’s sense of humor.
Ive got one she’s an amazing car won’t ever go back!
I want to drive to NJ from NM in 3 days, not 4 (or longer). I don't want to sit idle while my car recharges. Nothing like getting 500 miles (or more) on a tank of gas, 10 minute fill up, and back on the road.
LOL You are delusional. Cannon Ball Run CA to NY should take about 2 Days 48hours in this thing. NJ to NM is way shorter. You are soo ignorantly outdated.
So wearing Depends and eating Slim Jims behind the wheel? I guess...
Gas car owners spend 9 hours a year fueling their cars. EV owners plus the car in when they go to bed.
Road trips are a blast in EVs. Fuel costs 75% less, and 20 minutes gives me enough charge to get me to my next bio break. Which, sadly, seems to take the whole 20 minutes, when you add in picking up a drink and a snack!
@Paul DeLucchi Foods better in NJ.
@@Neojhun 48 hours to recharge from NY to CA? Or are you stopping the clock during the recharge? Because you certainly can't sleep 3 times a day while you recharge.
Jay's favorite phrases.... "I remember" "in the old days" 🤣🤣🤣
3 weeks in love my Mach E, love the low maintenance.. first non BMW in 30+ years
We’re going back to the late 70’s when the Mustang II came out, the Mustang V8 will never die.
Okay grandpa
@@1Jbeats This is my Mustang.
th-cam.com/video/MLvcZwnZnYo/w-d-xo.html
No fake sound required.
They just did.
Mustang II came out in September 1973 for the 1974 model year. I own a 1970 Mach 1. 351 W. I agree the V-8 is here to stay!
This is their mustang which means the mustang died.
I had a mustang GT for a few years and I own one of these now, they’re everything a daily suv should be but i don’t think of it as a Mustang
me either
Right, it's a cool car but not a Mustang. More like an Escape GT.
Right!
They completely dropped the ball for not havin a V8 5.0 option in these🤦🤦🤦the bodystyle was perfect 😭😭😭
Go and see the sticker on the lot, they’re selling a Mustang Mach e GT , so Mustang 👍🏽
If they just called it a Mach E they would have had no pushback and probably sold just as well
My thoughts exactly.
Not a chance. People would look at it as a Ford compliance car. Ford knew they had to have recognition so they used the Mustang badge to get it.
It’s nice to see that Jay wore his “electric “ blue denim shirt.
Jay.. Talking about car speeds from 0 to 60 I remember an article from either road and track or car and driver from 1988 in which the editor firmly believed cars would never make it to under 5 seconds 0 to 60. I remember counting out in my head from 0 to 4 and thinking how could a car ever go that fast, this guy must be right, LOL
Does anybody else miss the "will it do a burnout . . ." days?
I sure do!!!
Jay doesnt sound too impressed with that electric SUV. Then again he has a Tesla Plaid.
I set a world record in a Plaid. How can you top that off? Oh look the front emblem lights up.
As much as I love Mustangs, and always will, I must say that they fell short on styling for this model. It does look like an SUV especially with the 4 doors! Just not the same this year.
I think this car is for people that drive suv's can pretend to be cool by saying "I drive a Mustang"...they missed the que on the naming of it in my opinion. This isn't a Mustang.
It's the best looking EV on the market.
@@DK-pr9ny It is nice looking but I think it lost a lot of the style that made Mustang what it is. I can live with it being electric, but I think they lost it with the 4 doors and the SUV look.
@@curtisszymczyk1339 Agree they should have just called it the "Mach-E"
@@DK-pr9ny yes, leave Mustang off; it just does not have the stylish lines.
23:23 that „Bangs and Olsen“ cracked me up 😅
Agreed...he's totally out of touch with this detail. 😆
Jay, Dave & Ford. The Best Shows! 😎👍😎
I still think a four door hatchback shouldn’t be called a Mustang😢
a mustang suv....???? nope!!
Not even a hatch back just a strait SUV
They should have revived the Taurus name and used it on this. I will never consider this a Mustang.
...or a Porsche for that matter, but this is the future and everything can happen.
..and i don't think a four door Jeep should be called a Wrangler...call it something else...
24:00-If I'm not mistaken, the late Sixties Ford Thunderbird had something like that as well. As for the Mustang Mach-E, one might consider that Porsche was largely known for its two-door roadsters until it started coming out with crossovers some years back. What I see with the Mustang is something along those lines. I myself have no issue with the Mach-E, and in fact, think it's a very cool alternative to Tesla!!! PS: I've seen them in person in Massachusetts, and they look great!!!
so I wonder how that push button door handle thing would fully work in some of these winter states like Wisconsin where your doors and your cars will freeze shut
And then the absense of a heat pump!!! I heard you can’t even order that as an option, at least not in my country (the Netherlands)
Future google searches...My Mustang mach e door wont lock/open.
If it looked like an actual mustang, I'd want one. I don't want to drive a mustang crossover
Maybe one day Ford will make a mustang EV
Because I know you are a great ford icon! A motivator and a salesman!
Had a Mach e and it was in the shop 75%of the time I owned it. Was able to get 2100 miles on it before the electronics went out. Took ford over a month to buy it back. Car was in the shop 68days and it was still being worked on when ford bought it back.
They shouldn’t even be allowed to call them cars. They should be legally required to call them appliances.
All "cars" in the future will be considered electrified appliances.
@@mercoid what? You are a 🤡 eh?
Sandy Munro tore down the Mach-E to the component level and was shocked by all the hoses and wiring. He said they will have to a do a lot of reengineering to make it compete with the reliability of the Teslas. Let's hope Ford gets the F-150 Lightning right!
@@aussie2uGA you do knew that was a job 1 car produced over a year ago right? Ford has already corrected…
When you refer to Mustang as a brand rather than an experience, you've already lost the point.
All people who care about Mustang as the ultimate Ford will be dead in a few decades. They're not marketing to you, they're marketing to future buyers. - Remember all the main car makes are 10 years behind on E.V branding since they're dinosaurs catching up.
I like any video Jay puts up,but I much prefer when he does his own cars or another individual he invites to talk about their car,but when he has corporate brass come on and just talk about how much better their product is than the competition,it kinda turns me off and kind of tacky....JMO
a difference for sure
I am with you on this.... the fact that the guy was laughing about changing a spare tire.... what is funny about that? I do that wjhen I have a flat
@@KZCAN last I heard wheels still flatten.
31:40 Somehow Jay manages not to "Lincoln's hat" the headroom observation. Such restraint! LOL
Saw my first one at a winery at the north end of the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York. It looked really good and was wearing Connecticut plates. Saw my second one at the Ford display at the Woodward Cruise event this year. I emphatically exclaimed that the United States is V8 country and that the V8 powers America on it's highways and bi-ways. - After thinking about this thing for a while, and hearing the current sales figures, this car will probably be a big go for Ford and the electric car segment. Time will tell. I will say, the experience of driving a reworked Mustang GT is like no other and puts a big smile on everyone in the car during those fun moments. Both are unique! G.
Very nice informative video, Jay. Thanks. BTW, you may have already implied it earlier in this video, but I suspect one of the reasons Ford chose to name it a Mustang was to also show Ford's commitment to the new EV. Quite possibly, if they named it anything else, many might have considered it more of a joke. Naming it a Mustang showed their followers that Ford is dead serious about their commitment to the technology and to this model in particular. And so it seems. Risky? Apparently not from Ford's perspective. At least not anymore. :) Thanks again. I'm awaiting delivery of my 2nd Mach E Gt which should arrive in 1 week.
The biggest issue with EV Mustang vs a Tesla is not the car itself (although Tesla gets better range), it is the fact the Tesla has the best and dedicated charging network in America. Not only do they charge faster, but within your car you can see on the screen where the available stations are but more importantly real on the spot information as to how many units are being used, how many are available and so on. They are also owned and maintained by Tesla.
Ford or any other company for that matter does not have this and your are sort of at the mercy of these third-party charging stations, many of which are a franchise and often attached to regular gas stations. And often they may not be operating, or not have a fast-charger, etc.
A TH-cam channel I follow, MKBHD (tech related with over 15 million subs) last October did a great comparison. He took his Tesla Plaid, a Mustang EV (I forget what trim level) and an Audi with a standard V8. They went on a 1,000 mile trip in the upstate New York area, stopping as needed to charge or fill with gas. Long story short, the Audi made the route in the quickest, Tesla a very close second, and the Mustang a distant third. Why? The available charging station information the Mustang was getting was woefully inaccurate and often they would pull up only to find the station closed or the charging units not working.
The other point is with Tesla you have one account, one payment system, etc. and get detailed information constantly. But with Ford or others you may have to have several accounts with all these several third-party operators, using their apps, relying on their payment systems and so on.
And there is the biggest rub with anything other than a Tesla. The Mustang is doing great because heck… It has the Mustang name and it was smart of Ford to capitalize on that. But no other brand can come close to Tesla. Again, not the car itself, but it’s the infrastructure that is the key!
Unpopular opinion: yes, it does look like a Mustang. Look at the silhouette as it comes into focus at 0:18. In the first few seconds, you can absolutely see the outline of the Mustang coupe. Yes, the proportions have been tweaked a little to raise it up and fit four doors, but the basic Mustang shape is still there. It's about as good as a modern four-door Mustang could possibly have looked. And the idea of a four-door Mustang goes back to the original 1964 concept cars - a four-door version was an option they considered from the beginning, but in the '60s, it made more sense to just do a two-door body style. The Mustang was advertised as a jack of all trades, and early ads even pitched it as a family car. At the time, 2 doors on a family car wasn't unusual. Now, 4 doors and a higher ride height on a sports car isn't unusual. It could be said that the Mach-E is closer in design philosophy to the original Mustang than the current coupe is. I just wish the car's fan base wasn't so narrow-minded about it.
The Mustang was never the jack of all trades family car, it was a pony car made to be an affordable muscle car. This is an overpriced grocery getter that is targeted toward the lowest common denominator forgetting it’s main demographic, just like that concept you mentioned that thank god never took off. And the mustang Mach-E being good looking is an opinion but saying this thing looks more like a mustang than it’s predecessor is just a strait lie. I could say more but I don’t want to write an essay.
28:10 he reaches over and touches the touchscreen to turn off the propulsion noise. After Jay mentioned how bad it was to him. Haha
1960 Ford base 2door Falcon, 3 on the column, 13" wheels ...wonderfull vehicle then and now, cruise control not necessary...too much traffic. Great video.
Calling a 4 door crossover SUV a "Mustang" is just a straight up middle finger
Perfect for the transgender and can’t define a woman generation. 😂
But a 4 cylinder “Mustang” isn’t? Who makes up the rules on what a Mustang is? Oh that’s right Ford the owners of the name. The MachE GT is faster than 90% of all production mustangs but “it’s not a real Mustang I want the slower one because it’s traditional” SMH
@@jerryp3551 I know that definitions are a hard concept for someone such as yourself living in a world of ever changing pronouns and such. But hey, get yourself one of those gay EV’s. A “Mach E” is perfect for your non-binary lifestyle. 😂
Electric vehicles will not work in the large rural states. Until they are able to go 500+ miles in the winter, they will always be urban vehicles. Light trucks/SUVs that have only 100 mile ranges towing a camper in the winter is just not going to replace ICE light trucks. Most of the places we go camping in Oregon do not have charging stations
There are always exceptions. Most people even in rural america this will do most of the driving perfectly.
Pointless, BEVs do not need to cover every use case. If you need more than 400 Miles don't bother with BEVs. There is not even enough Production Capacity for people who only need 400 miles or less. I live in freaking Australia, I would never use a BEV to go into The OutBack. But I would not use a freaking Expedition 4x4 to commute in our megacities. Different tools for different jobs.
How many ICE vehicles can go 500 miles in the winter? Very few. As for electric vehicles that can go 500 miles (although maybe not in winter), there is already one on the market. The Lucid Air has been tested in the real world as being capable of going 500 miles at 70 MPH on the highway, and probably farther at lower speeds.
For everyone that drives 500+ miles a day, and never gets near a highway, this won’t work. That currently rules out Alaska, South America, Africa, and Australia, if you drive 500+ miles per day.
Thank you Jay for all your hard work !
He is a national treasure!
Your annoying as your channel.
I like electric cars and their electromechanical superiority. Having said that, my biggest concerns are end of service life environmental impacts regarding battery material mining practices and disposal methods, coupled with the fact that this country's power generation and grid system is not up to the task of supporting the move to electric vehicles. We're putting the cart before the horse, if you'll pardon the pun. There's also the issues of the government having total control over your vehicle and car theft by hacking. So while I'm hopeful for this shift, I'm also pragmatically skeptical. But thank you Jay for always delivering a stellar presentation!
14:30 The brake fluid doesn’t need to be changed? Aren’t the brakes still hydraulic, and therefore hydroscopic?
I was shocked when I first saw one. If shock value is what Ford was going for, then a job well done. P.S NOT A MUSTANG.
Jay, at the end, says, "You could go half a million miles in one of these" - only if you pay to renew the batteries a few times I think.
Brakes and oil changes are cheap. Batteries are a big ticket item.
Exactly. You think. Do the research
@@332ARA Tesla batteries warranty is for 100k miles. How long is your gas motor warranty?
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 I have two cars, both twenty + years old. My problem with some electric cars is that when the battery needs replacing - owners won't, because the cost of the new battery will be more than the car is worth - therefore what in the UK insurers would call a 'write-off'. If this proves to be true in the future, then electric cars will not last as long on the road as petrol / diesel cars. You could have a situation where in the lifetime of a petrol/ diesel car, two or three electric cars have to be made - therefore overall the total environmental issues caused per each electric car built could be more than per petrol/ diesel car.
I may be proven wrong, but I don't like the way we are all being encouraged to dash headlong towards electric cars - after all this is what happened with diesel cars - and look how that turned out! I have nothing against electric cars, but believe we should still keep our eyes open on other alternatives - fuel cell, bio-fuel and hydrogen cars for example.
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 Most manufacturers have power train warranties of 80,000-100,000 miles…. Some more. Do the research!
Not saying it's a bad vehicle, but it is not a Mustang.
Agreed
Does anyone else have problems getting notifications from Jay's channel? Why don't I, I get all others I sub to.
How do electric vehicles work in states like Michigan, Wisconsin & Minnesota in below-zero winters?
There goes the Mustang name, they did it to Thunderbird and now Mustang.
That's what they said when the Mustang II came out.
They did it?? You mean offered a car and brand that's outselling gas mustangs? Right.
@@1Jbeats Exactly. Now every soccermom has the same Mustang.
@@1Jbeats no
Well they certainly learned their lesson on a few model names, i.e. Escort and Probe. You gotta wonder what they were thinking especially with the Probe.
"This isn't just some SUV that we've electrified..." What a stupid comment. That's exactly what the Mach-e is. Its an electric 4-door SUV/CUV
Looks like a Crossover SUV
Because it is a Crossover SUV
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 Mustang was born as an American Sports Car Icon. 🤣 I guess its time for US cars to go through "Identity Crisis" or "Gender Identity," just like its people.
2 months ago I said WTF. Today I just bought one.
“I like the old cruise-omatic” ‘’’does a pulling motion with hand over gear selector’’’ J’s trying, g-d bless him he’s trying, tht grey is strtn to really show up 😋😋
I'm curious. If Ford ever comes to a point where they make an actual 2 door EV sports car? What will they call it.
Ford Edge Mach E lmao
Probe
Exp
El toro de la mexico.
Crown Vic Sport Model
few thing about electric cars is
1- amount of money you save in ten years is less than how much more you pay to purchase the car
so you save $7000 on gas in ten years for example but the car cost you $12000 more to buy ,and that's if you keep the car that long, if you keep it 3 or 5 years it's even worst
2- how much the battery pack cost and how long they last is equal or more than regular maintenance of gas cars
3- parts that needs to be changed are way more expensive than gas cars, like the gas pedal wires and labor
that's why Jay or the Ford guy never mentioned the battery life, the price and labor cost!!
how long does it take to charge on charging station or regular 110 volt at home
those clean electricity that we are talking about are also produced by coal power plant or other fuel plant, so it's not so clean ,it's just you don't see it in the city like pollution over LA or NY, that brown haze
BY THE WAY THIS IS STILL SUV NOT A MUSTANG!😂😂
It insults a car guy when a salesman is selling you a vanilla crossover and calls it a Mustang.
For one, this thing won't spin out and mow down people at Cars and Coffee events.
👍🤣
I was thinking about that when he said "Heart and Soul of a Mustang" 🤣
Did they not close the trunk correctly? At 39:14 the trunk lid is rattling around.
I recently drove the Mach-e GT performance. the acceleration is insane but so linear that it wasn’t exciting after a while, the brakes are perfect and have a great pedal feel. I didn't find the steering very communicative, the car feels downright heavy in sharp bends. On short bumps I also found the car restless and not very pleasant (seems like a huge challenge to make such a heavy SUV sporty and comfy at the same time). I also found the finish and materials to be substandard. There were quite some squeaks and rattles and the B&O system was a let down. I was impressed with the grip the car has and I thought the “fake engine noise” was nicely done.
You raised a very interesting point about lack of wear and tear and maintenance etc
So if you get the chance Jay, next time are they thinking about battery swaps in say 10 or 15 years
Or if battery cell technology moves on, can you upgrade and improve power and range and then motor tech moves on too ?
Yes, I agree. The cost of replacing the battery or even the motor. People don’t think of that. Ironically, a Mercedes’ hybrid owner has to replace the battery in his Mercedes’ and the cost is 20 000$ and the vehicle isn’t worth that.
Tesla batteries are rated for 1 million miles. So, you’re more likely to buy a new car before you replace the battery.
@@prodantech
Can you prove that
@@pugnos1Edit! I was replying to the wrong comment. Haha. The million mile battery spec is determined by accelerated lab testing. I suppose we’ll see how that goes in real life. Even if we get half of that, then that would be pretty amazing. There have been some older Model S’s with newer battery tech that have crossed the half million mile mark.
@@prodantech making stuff up is fun!
I love the technology on the EVs. My problem is with the time it takes to "fill the tank" with energy. When they can charge the battery in the same time that it take to fill up with gas (Petrol), that is when I will buy one for lang road trips.
How often do you go more than 250 miles? Having to wait 30 Minutes on rare occasions is very worth it. When vast majority of the time it takes 30 SECONDs of your time to charge on Level 2 slow charging. Unlike a Gas Pump you're not supposed to walk away forget about it and do something else. You also can't have a Gas Pump at your Residential Home. Short DC Fast Charging time is only useful for people who FREQUENTLY drive more than a single charge. The difference in time spent charging for most people is no different to Petrol.
@@Neojhun Actually, when I lived in a very rural area, I did have a petrol pump at my house. I had to crank it, but it pumped petrol into my tank. And yes, I do travel more than 250 miles many times.
@@markemanuele1929 Then you are in the very rare 1%, most people are NOT in your situation, your situation could change at any moment especially depending on your age, health and other issues.
95% of people are not going to BE driving 300 miles at a time except during summer vacation or something, most people will be driving to/from work, shopping, the dentist, taking kids to school, etc., like th egas tank, you "fill" the batteries and drive for days or longer before having to refill again.
In my case I live 1/2 mile from work, I come home for lunch, so I put on 2 miles a day on a moped that gets 80 mpg and uses 1/2 a quart of oil for oil changes. If I had an EV one charge would easily last many weeks and then I could charge it at home. On occasion I drive to a city 35 miles away for a Menards, or another city that is 18 miles away, neither trip would need any kind of additional charging.
4 doors. Not a Mustang. They didn't electrify the mustang, they hinted at it's styling and badged a grocery getter with it's name. It might be super fast, but it has 4 doors... A mustang is a pony, this thing is not a pony car. I'm sure it's dope, but that doesn't mean it's true mustang. Ford calls it a mustang, but does anybody really think of it as a mustang?
They are using Bronco... I mean? hello?... its pretty obvious
@@tredogzs ...and that's not a bronco so...
Cry more
i still love the keypad on the door feature.
Most common used selling point, "low center of gravity" 12:24 . But that isn't going to completely offset how much EVs weigh in comparison to their oil based siblings. My next daily driver will be an electric. I'm excited for this new movement, but I will always be a gear head and long for the sound of a V8 rumbling by.
Can honestly say I still love the keypad on my f150. It's just a nice thing to have. When I randomly need something out of the vehicle you can just type the code and grab it instead of getting your phone or keys.
@Paul DeLucchi what, it's like a password lock entry
I agree great feature. Hope Ford always keeps that feature, very handy.
@Paul DeLucchi Ford started that option in 1980. (I'm not sure if it was reliable at first, but I think people who had it, liked it.)
You can reset your code with a master code. A Ford technician showed me that trick. I used to change codes in parking lots back in high school.
Love the channel and show Jay! I'm curious when you will discuss the future of these batteries, how long they'll last (I doubt a 1/2 a million miles), and what will be done to fix, replace, regen. The big issue is, how will thousands will be disposed of.
Redwood Materials
THERE ARE PLENTY COMPANIES INTO RECYCLING THE BATTERIES...TO MAKE NEW ONES. JAY DOESN'T DEAL WITH SOCIAL ISSUES ON HIS CAR CHANNEL.
@@MICHGO1 There are plenty of companies into it while it's new. Is anyone saying what you do with your car once the batteries are depleted? I was told, it'll last 100,00 miles, after that you'll be done with the car. I have seen bills of $20k to replace a Tesla battery. It doesn't cost $20k to replace a gas engine. Just asking is there a solid plan, or we'll cross that bridge when we get to it...
@@Broncostu 100k miles is the warranty of the batteries. Not the life span. At 100k miles Tesla batteries have shown to have lost 8% of their state of charge. Which means the batteries will outlast the car itself. I'd like to see a gas motor with that kind of performance
“Hey were running outa computer chips!”
No worries just make more electric cars that need more computers that we don’t have. Then charge it off an already struggling electrical grid bringing the price of power up. How many EV can we make before it turns into a lithium shortage AND a chip shortage???
Lithium shortage?? No imports from Russia which supplies the majority of lithium.
@@ldnwholesale8552 In 2020, Australia produce 46.3% of lithium, Chile 23.9%, and China 16.2%. Russia's production is so small it doesn't even register.
The majority of chips the automakers are short of are old ones that control seats and such. Also- my guess is there may actually be less chips in an electric car because they have combined a bunch of these functions into more modern CPU. -I could be wrong but I'd make the bet.
Lol there's about to be a real oil shortage before a battery shortage.
@@1Jbeats There already is a real oil shortage? Why do you think gas prices are so high? Demand for gas shot up when countries stopped locking down for COVID, and the supply couldn't keep up.
Just awesome thanks for the review!!
I remember when I was in grade school with a friend walked to a Ford dealership near our school and we looked at a 1967 Mustang on the showroom floor. It was nice and shiny and new.