Also, personally a little upset Vlad doesn’t get more of a discount or bonus progress towards awakening Von Carsteins when he’s the freaking bloodline founder.
For my future reference of these bloodline lord trees: Necrarch 7:00 Strigoi 10:50 Lahmian 17:40 von Carstein 24:00 Blood Dragon 32:30 Great info my man thanks!
The easiest way by far to get Blood Kisses is through agent assassination or wounding. Getting many agents is therefore essential. The 50% upkeep cost reduction is a must.
Wow, these changes seem amazing. Pretty neat that all this is on top of the VCoast dlc too. I was concerned that VCoast would basically just be the superior Vampire faction, so it's great that they are revamping (hehehe) the old faction.
thank you for the summary. I think you forgot that both Necrarch and Strigoi get another ability instead of Arcane Conduit. Necrarch at 08:21 maybe "Greater Arcane Conduit"(?) Strigoi at 12:09 "Diviner"
I few minor things I noticed is how blood knights can get 40% missle resist as they start off with 10% I think. And does the Carstein dog buff also buff him? It seemed that way. So happy for the blood lines, they all look really good. Although I might even pass on the 25% and start off with blood knights. Getting black knights -50% allows for some really aggro play, with free bats to tie up anything you don't want to charge? Just so much gameplay here.
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 Oh eat at duck.. I bought every piece of DLC for this series so far. The assets on the model clip through each other. The fact that its free changes nothing about it being worse than the default necromancer model.
@@Anubid It is a fair criticism, but I would cut CA some slack. It is a free update that they wanted to sneak in with the DLC. Had this been EA, we wouldn't get shit. I also wouldn't fret too much, CA isn't afraid to retcon older models like they did with the Red Duke and Todbringer. A truly unique Necrarch model may very well be coming in the future.
@@Anubid Lots of things clip here and there, even for stuff you paid for. The model looks fine for necrarchs, they could have looked more fucked up as much as Morathi could have looked much prettier. Just realize that it's entitlement, I didn't bite your head off.
You did save the best for last. In fact, the order you spoke of each bloodline is the order from least to most favorite. Maybe switching the first two. Maybe. But still, good choice of order, and great video, as always. Thanks for doing what you do bro.
You're right about Abhorash. He single handedly defeated a very old and dangerous dragon. And when the Old World ended during the controversial End Times story, he was standing back to back with the legendary king Giles de Breton, aka The Green Knight, still fighting even as the entire world ended. So calling him the greatest warrior of the setting is fair and true. Especially since his power and skill are due to his own personal experience and self, not due to blessings from the Chaos Gods, not due to items, or any other outside source. It's all him. And he is a fucking god on the battlefield.
and the combination blood dragon + von carstein as a reenforcement will be alot of fun. i did that with vlad and isabella, vlad had a normal army and isabella was full of vampires on flying mounts and flying monsters for a fast reinforcement.... i didnt even need cav on vlad. the anvil was there, and the flying hammer and magic support were on their way
31:35 You should pronounce it like that every time lol. Also I am very happy to see the vampire faction getting these. I will certainly have play as Isabella + Lahmian bloodline. Btw, what happens if you play multiplayer and both players are vampire factions? Can both sides have the same lords unlocked? Or is it first come first served?
I'm not happy with the blood dragon bloodline description. They're describing Blood Knights not blood dragons. Not every blood dragon was made from the order of blood keep.
True,but most of them were Imperial knights before they were turned.The only non Imperial/Brettonian Blood Dragons I know of were Abhorash and Luthor Harkon.The point of origin for most named Blood Dragon is either unknown or from the Empire/Brettonia.
@@nickathanas1898 here's my issue, they don't mention Brettonians knights which make up the lion's share of blood dragons outside of blood knights. They say specifically Empire only. Also I'm pretty sure Luthor and Walach Harkon are both from the Empire.
@@mylesdrake2949 Blood Knights are by far the most famous "organised" band of Abhorash's sons,it does kinda make sense that they would focus on them.Also from the Lexicanum: Walak of the tribe Harkoni, was born in ancient times and was turned into a vampire by Abhorash, champion of Lahmia in Nehekhara. While serving in Lahmia he was master of the palace guard and one of Abhorash's four primary assistants (along with his cousin Lutur of the harbour guard). After the fall of Lahmia he traveled with his Sire to Mourkain to serve under king Ushoran. It is unknown how he survived the fall of Mourkain and the Strygos empire. and Lutr of the tribe Harkoni, was born in ancient times and was turned into a vampire by Abhorash, champion of Lahmia in Nehekhara. While serving in Lahmia he was master of the harbour guard and one of Abhorash's four primary assistants (along with his cousin Walak of the palace guard). After the fall of Lahmia he traveled with his Sire to Mourkain to serve under king Ushoran. It is unknown how he survived the fall of Mourkain and the Strygos empire.
@@nickathanas1898 that's right, I forgot the Harkons origins were a tribe of Nehekara and not the old world. However my statement stands firm on how the blood dragon bloodline makes no mention of bretonians.
Isabella's +3 hero capacity, +25% weapon damage for heroes, as well as the Mad Count unique building buffs, combined with the Lahmian bloodline's hero upkeep reduction, makes for one of the strongest early game plays in all of TWWH2, easily.
Hero play is always endgame play but she just does it early on. As if chaff can stop wind of death. (Heroes don't get hurt by spells like those). Every factions most optimal way of destroying hordes of chaos and other shit is to bomb it with magic when they blob up and welp vampires has it all.
The real problem about the Handgunners is, that you only get 1 unit. The van Carstein tallent for human auxilliar only increases Crossbowmen. just today tried the new vampire counts for the first time and was pretty hyped about handgunners until i was´nt anymore. Sad, but i like the crossbowmen Pretty nice to get at least a little bit of ranged. Not tier but in campagin they do thair job pretty well.
Immunity to untainted attrition and the best combat lord makes the Blood Dragons the most powerful bloodline. I honestly don’t think there’s a reason to awaken a Necrarch aside from that research buff when it seems that the Von Carsteins and Lahmians have a better spell selection. And the new Strigoi is a Ghoul King on steroids, with an insane amount of AP. He is your anti-dwarf lord. Anyone with low leadership (like Orcs or Beastmen) is going to get messed up by the Lahmian. Von Carstein is jack of all trades with the most flexibility. And Blood Dragon is for chewing up and spitting out enemy heroes and elites.
Tbh the Necrarch bonuses to winds of magic and upkeep are pretty big end game when you have lots of armies. The Lahmian is going to get you blood kisses so much faster through assassination that getting her first or second will probably pay off pretty quick anyway.
You get blood kisses from assassinations AND wounding, and the 50% discount apply to both hero’s... and lords, not there army’s but this allows you to recruit a silly amount of hero’s and lords to just bulldozer frontlines
One thing I gotta ask, I've never heard elven vampire or dwarven in warhammer fantasy, is vampirism is only applicable to human only? If so whats the fluff?
I would have liked to see Strigoi lvl 1 be a little more comparable to the others. +20%ambush isn't that great. Something like the skaven ability to always get ambush battles could be cool if they mixed up their order of the 3 advances.
i will have to give CA a good apploude since they acctually went and updated two (the vamps and previously the dwarfs) of the old tw warhammer 1 races hopefuly they contnue to update those old races for the mortal empire camaign
Do you know if the devs are aware for the von carstein lord and his vargheist malus oversight? Because I feel like this could really be annoying in campaigns
Wish they would have given the lamians the attribute of "any hero activity performed in imposing territory increases that empires diplomatic relations with vampires or applies the "vampiric influence" diplomacy trait that I always see on a bunch of orks for some reason.
The vampiric influence is in the orcs trait list thanks to Azhags being controlled by Nagash through the crown of sorcery, think CA let it apply to other orc rulers by mistake....
@@DoddyIshamel I've never seen the greenskins with vampiric influence, only those two trubes in the mountains north and south east of the vampire counts.
Wasn't there some Lore on the Strigoi that they can't conciously use magic to cast spells, but passively/unwittingly use Dharr to attract/raise the undead? If so it would've been really cool if they introduced it in his skill line. Maybe some kind of aura which constantly heals/replenishes but sucks up winds of magic all the time. That would come with completely removing all his spells of course.
@@adambielen8996 Ah, I see. But they could only be wizard level 1, so could only take a single spell. They also could take that spell from the Lore of Vampires. Thus giving them a unique magic-skilltree seems a bit off for me. In that regard it would be more thematic if he was a bit more like the Blood Dragon (only vampire Lore), with the good stuff taken away from magic being in some way added to his combat capability. He's supposed to be the bestial Juggernaught after all.
@@scelonferdi I wouldn't look too heavily into wizard level from TT, after all Warlock Engineers had to buy equipment to let them cast spells and Skink Priests could only be lv 2 wizards. Strigoi are better casters than Blood Dragons so I'm fine with how it plays out, he has mostly combat spells anyway. Also the Strigoi is still the Juggernaught, he has more raw damage and health than the other Bloodlines.
@@adambielen8996 Are they really better casters? I always thought they represent bottom level casting for vampires, apart from Luthor Harkon of course.
@@scelonferdi no, Blood Dragons are worse casters. This is both a trait of the Bloodline and also the due to the fact that most Blood Dragons also focus heavily on melee prowess to the detriment of their magical abilities. The Red Duke is the notable exception. CA actually shows this pretty well in the Blood Dragon skill tree, as they don't get Arcane Conduit, Earthing, or Power Reserves. Also while Strigoi use magic instinctively the less crazy ones are able to use their casting abilities to its fullest potential, see Gashnag for an example.
The reasons vampires own/frequent night clubs should be rather obvious. They're open at night, crowded with people either drunk or tripping balls, and are one of the few places where public neck sucking is deemed appropriate. You'd be hard-pressed to find a more ideal environment for a vampire to feed in relative safety. Also Vampire: The Masquerade did it, and Blade ripped off that and every subsequent vampire setting ripped off Blade until Twilight happened.
Bit late to the party but the sooner you get into the Lahmians the sooner you can unlock all of the other Bloodlines. The more assassins you have roaming the map the more Blood Kisses you can harvest.
although I like the undead, I find it not lore friendly for them to have missle units at all. neither the vampire coast nor the vampire counts. Nehekara is diffrent in that regard since they are another form of undead.
Any idea about the traits you get in the Bloodline Lords? I have some of them but they are stuck with one trait, it doesn't change at all, do we need to save and try every turn to not being stuck with a bad trait? I don't know if this is working as intended or if I got a bug due to some addons.
Cheers for the video! All these new lords look great and i can't wait to play them, but i hope they don't outshine the actual LL...how have their skill trees been reworked (if at all)?
That's really stupid. They really should've changed the Battle Skills for each of the bloodlines, instead of just giving them all the same thing. I just don't know why the devs don't treat these newer lord types more like Wurrzag, with each of them getting their own particular buffs for the troops associated with them. Like with the Strigoi Ghoul King, who should've gotten extra bonuses for Crypt Ghouls and Horrors and monstrous units and so on with the others.
i think they can, but in practice basically non of them ever do, because elves live much longer than humans anyway, so they never really had a strong desire as humans for that extended lifespan, elves kinda get the vampire benefits without the drawbacks already
The only non human vampire to appear in canon was a halfling. Konrad von Carstein made him as a joke and Mannfred hunted him down because he was an abomination and a blight on the bloodline.
Very cool and nice! But do anyone think is just OP all this? I mean, -80% discount or bonus for every vampire think... isnt so funny to play in campaign. Just think a lamnia liv 10 hero, with bloodline and personal ability reach a 120% discount for a action? In right?
Most powerful 'melee combatant' in the lore perhaps, but I think anyone who suggests Abhorash or Aenarion or Gotrek or the likes as the most powerful character in the lore must clearly just not have done their homework on the Slann and how absolutely hilariously powerful they are, and especially Mazdamundi and Lord Kroak. In the lore, of course. It's not remotely reflected in the tabletop or game. Killed an ancient dragon? Won a shitload of duels? Wow, so impressive. Flattening whole cities with a single spell or literally creating a new mountain range, that's Mazdamundi-power, and he's supposedly way weaker than Kroak :p
If the Strigoi is +5 Vampiric corruption in ALL provinces, instead of just provinces you own, then I think that has to take priority next to that immediate 25% research rate.
I like your content but sometimes you just sound a little too excited or enthused when you’re talking about things that don’t justify that (in my opinion anyway) lol. Like little stat boosts or something. Normally I don’t really mind (and don’t get me wrong in general I appreciate enthusiasm) but if I’m in a certain mood it can get pretty annoying lol (you are similar to MilkandcookiesTW in this regard, I like both of you in general but this particular thing can get on my nerves from time to time).
@@italianspartacus i will highly suggest you to check it out as it is not like that,I dont know where you heard it but it is neither german pronunciation or anything with a sh Anyway you do you
I'm kinda bumbed out by this bloodlines mechanic... It muddles the waters of the bloodlines for Vampire Counts. I maybe alone in this but to me it makes no sense for one bloodline to have other bloodlines working for them. CA should be doing more to separate them and make them more distinct, not bring them together. That being said I'm fine with making other bloodlines sub-factions of VC but their lords and LLs souldn't be mixed. Especially now that the Strygos Empire and Necrarch Brotherhood are in the game as NPC factions, it wouldn't take much to turn then into unique playable subfactions. Strygos Empire: Legendary Lord - Ushoran (New LL model to replace the generic Strygoi Ghoul King model.) Lords - Strygoi Ghoul King (Nothing new there just lift them from VC) - Master Necromancers Sub-faction traits - Lower recruitment cost & bonuses to Crypt Ghouls, Crypt Horrors, Vargheists and Varghulfs Necrarch Brotherhood: Legendary Lord - W'soran (New LL model to replace the generic Strygoi Ghoul King model.) Lords - Necrarch Vampire (New model to replace the generic Vampire Lord) - Master Necromancers Sub-faction traits - Lower recruitment cost & bonuses to all Undead and Wraith units (excluding Ghouls. Monsters and Breasts) We can use the same logic for Silver Pinnacle in TW:WH3 and maybe even Dieter Helsnicht could get his Doom Legion sub-faction like at some point like Kemmler's Barrow Legion. Oh almost forgot Abhorash & Walach Harkon for the Blood Dragons with their bonus to Bloods Knights.
If I recall correctly, the problem is really "what edition lore do you want to use", as I think in the last edition of warhammer fantasy it was all just sylvania and the von carstiens. Blending in more of the older edition lore is a great thing, I think, but sticking strictly to like, 2nd or 3rd edition lore alone wouldn't work out too much in the TW game.
@@vineveer4358 the last edition is basically end times and TW:WH is based in on more than just 8th Edition it draws on all. Most of the main Vampires from previous editions were mention to have been around During End times, plus we hgot new ones too but don't know if CA will include the new ones..
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Also, personally a little upset Vlad doesn’t get more of a discount or bonus progress towards awakening Von Carsteins when he’s the freaking bloodline founder.
Any money that if it is within technical limitations Steel Faith will fix that up.
Steel Faith fixes everything. @@MrSpartanspud
Maybe he does and they didn't reveal it.
Yeah, like maybe having the first stage from the beginning on or something like it (instead of the one blood kiss).
Maybe because EVERY other Von Carstein (even Isabella during end times) turned against Vlad and either tried to kill him or overthrow him?
For my future reference of these bloodline lord trees:
Necrarch 7:00
Strigoi 10:50
Lahmian 17:40
von Carstein 24:00
Blood Dragon 32:30
Great info my man thanks!
The easiest way by far to get Blood Kisses is through agent assassination or wounding. Getting many agents is therefore essential. The 50% upkeep cost reduction is a must.
Really looking forward to staying up a new and improved Vampire Counts campaign. I'd focus on strigoi and try to rebuild the strigoi empire.
I'm playing Vlad, but want to unlock Blood Dragons first.
too bad stirgoi stink at casting
an blood dragon army is a 2 armies army, because that lord will be a one man army...
Wow, these changes seem amazing. Pretty neat that all this is on top of the VCoast dlc too. I was concerned that VCoast would basically just be the superior Vampire faction, so it's great that they are revamping (hehehe) the old faction.
I see what you did there.
thank you for the summary. I think you forgot that both Necrarch and Strigoi get another ability instead of Arcane Conduit.
Necrarch at 08:21 maybe "Greater Arcane Conduit"(?)
Strigoi at 12:09 "Diviner"
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I few minor things I noticed is how blood knights can get 40% missle resist as they start off with 10% I think. And does the Carstein dog buff also buff him? It seemed that way. So happy for the blood lines, they all look really good. Although I might even pass on the 25% and start off with blood knights. Getting black knights -50% allows for some really aggro play, with free bats to tie up anything you don't want to charge? Just so much gameplay here.
Gotta ask, does the Blood Dragon Lord's horse look like a Blood Knight steed?
You take 40 minutes to drink one cup of coffee?
@@wout7168 I think you replied to the wrong person lmao @Colin V is your 40 minute a cup man.
@@BigMeechEJ25 I think you're right
Oh neat! Something to listen to while I finish my coffee.
The necrarch model looks like a modder threw it together in a single afternoon :/
Entitled are we? It's free, or rather payed by people buying DLC to support TWW.
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 Oh eat at duck.. I bought every piece of DLC for this series so far. The assets on the model clip through each other. The fact that its free changes nothing about it being worse than the default necromancer model.
Yup I am also very disappointed with it, especially having such a great artwork for them. Necrarch aare as unique as Strigoi.
@@Anubid It is a fair criticism, but I would cut CA some slack. It is a free update that they wanted to sneak in with the DLC. Had this been EA, we wouldn't get shit. I also wouldn't fret too much, CA isn't afraid to retcon older models like they did with the Red Duke and Todbringer.
A truly unique Necrarch model may very well be coming in the future.
@@Anubid Lots of things clip here and there, even for stuff you paid for. The model looks fine for necrarchs, they could have looked more fucked up as much as Morathi could have looked much prettier. Just realize that it's entitlement, I didn't bite your head off.
If anaerion was a vampire and drank all kinds of blood from strong opponents like greater demons what you think would happen?
I'd never be able to get out of bed because of my constantly hard boner...
Heresy. Heresy would happen.
You did save the best for last. In fact, the order you spoke of each bloodline is the order from least to most favorite. Maybe switching the first two. Maybe. But still, good choice of order, and great video, as always. Thanks for doing what you do bro.
You're right about Abhorash. He single handedly defeated a very old and dangerous dragon. And when the Old World ended during the controversial End Times story, he was standing back to back with the legendary king Giles de Breton, aka The Green Knight, still fighting even as the entire world ended. So calling him the greatest warrior of the setting is fair and true. Especially since his power and skill are due to his own personal experience and self, not due to blessings from the Chaos Gods, not due to items, or any other outside source. It's all him. And he is a fucking god on the battlefield.
"killed by an errant bolt from a goblin" Truly a great man.
I like the Blood Dragons, Von Carstiens, and Lahamians
multiple people have fed from blood of dragons and gotten the same ability as abhorash fyi
and the combination blood dragon + von carstein as a reenforcement will be alot of fun. i did that with vlad and isabella, vlad had a normal army and isabella was full of vampires on flying mounts and flying monsters for a fast reinforcement.... i didnt even need cav on vlad. the anvil was there, and the flying hammer and magic support were on their way
“Proetic? What the fuck?” That line right there earned you a like, and a subscription
31:35 You should pronounce it like that every time lol. Also I am very happy to see the vampire faction getting these. I will certainly have play as Isabella + Lahmian bloodline. Btw, what happens if you play multiplayer and both players are vampire factions? Can both sides have the same lords unlocked? Or is it first come first served?
I want to play Vlad and Blood Dragons.
I'm not happy with the blood dragon bloodline description. They're describing Blood Knights not blood dragons. Not every blood dragon was made from the order of blood keep.
True,but most of them were Imperial knights before they were turned.The only non Imperial/Brettonian Blood Dragons I know of were Abhorash and Luthor Harkon.The point of origin for most named Blood Dragon is either unknown or from the Empire/Brettonia.
@@nickathanas1898 here's my issue, they don't mention Brettonians knights which make up the lion's share of blood dragons outside of blood knights. They say specifically Empire only. Also I'm pretty sure Luthor and Walach Harkon are both from the Empire.
@@mylesdrake2949 Blood Knights are by far the most famous "organised" band of Abhorash's sons,it does kinda make sense that they would focus on them.Also from the Lexicanum:
Walak of the tribe Harkoni, was born in ancient times and was turned into a vampire by Abhorash, champion of Lahmia in Nehekhara. While serving in Lahmia he was master of the palace guard and one of Abhorash's four primary assistants (along with his cousin Lutur of the harbour guard). After the fall of Lahmia he traveled with his Sire to Mourkain to serve under king Ushoran. It is unknown how he survived the fall of Mourkain and the Strygos empire.
and
Lutr of the tribe Harkoni, was born in ancient times and was turned into a vampire by Abhorash, champion of Lahmia in Nehekhara. While serving in Lahmia he was master of the harbour guard and one of Abhorash's four primary assistants (along with his cousin Walak of the palace guard). After the fall of Lahmia he traveled with his Sire to Mourkain to serve under king Ushoran. It is unknown how he survived the fall of Mourkain and the Strygos empire.
@@nickathanas1898 that's right, I forgot the Harkons origins were a tribe of Nehekara and not the old world. However my statement stands firm on how the blood dragon bloodline makes no mention of bretonians.
@@mylesdrake2949 red duke?
Isabella's +3 hero capacity, +25% weapon damage for heroes, as well as the Mad Count unique building buffs, combined with the Lahmian bloodline's hero upkeep reduction, makes for one of the strongest early game plays in all of TWWH2, easily.
Hero play is always endgame play but she just does it early on. As if chaff can stop wind of death. (Heroes don't get hurt by spells like those). Every factions most optimal way of destroying hordes of chaos and other shit is to bomb it with magic when they blob up and welp vampires has it all.
Mist form is an ability that the Lahmians learned, i am a bit surprised its in the Von Carstein tree and not Lahmian.
The real problem about the Handgunners is, that you only get 1 unit. The van Carstein tallent for human auxilliar only increases Crossbowmen.
just today tried the new vampire counts for the first time and was pretty hyped about handgunners until i was´nt anymore. Sad, but i like the crossbowmen Pretty nice to get at least a little bit of ranged. Not tier but in campagin they do thair job pretty well.
Immunity to untainted attrition and the best combat lord makes the Blood Dragons the most powerful bloodline. I honestly don’t think there’s a reason to awaken a Necrarch aside from that research buff when it seems that the Von Carsteins and Lahmians have a better spell selection. And the new Strigoi is a Ghoul King on steroids, with an insane amount of AP. He is your anti-dwarf lord. Anyone with low leadership (like Orcs or Beastmen) is going to get messed up by the Lahmian. Von Carstein is jack of all trades with the most flexibility. And Blood Dragon is for chewing up and spitting out enemy heroes and elites.
Tbh the Necrarch bonuses to winds of magic and upkeep are pretty big end game when you have lots of armies. The Lahmian is going to get you blood kisses so much faster through assassination that getting her first or second will probably pay off pretty quick anyway.
I love me some Occam's Mind Razor, Occam's regular razor is just too dull.
Ooh, you get something useful (Blood Kiss) for making someone a vassal? That's neat!
A shame one as sneaky as the Lahmian does not get a special sneaky campaign stance.
Is that a new soundtrack and sound effects in the background for the vampires? Or is this your custom music Spartacus?
I think Lhamian should be first so you can get those hero actions going to get more blood kisses, no?
If you really do get Blood Kisses from any successful assassination, then yeah, I would say that's pretty much a must-have first pick.
You get blood kisses from assassinations AND wounding, and the 50% discount apply to both hero’s... and lords, not there army’s but this allows you to recruit a silly amount of hero’s and lords to just bulldozer frontlines
I think this is the best dlc/update released for tw Warhammer. They added so much it's fucking awesome
Flock of Doom is just a really solid, cheap, and spammable damage spell. Any lord that can have it is pretty strong in my book.
Thank you for this great video!
After watching this, I want to learn more about the Lhamians.
Is there a novel featuring that bloodline?
The genevieve books cover them a little I know. Also the Ulrika trilogy was quite good.
When you get one of the purple generals will it change over time so you can get a better trait?
One thing I gotta ask, I've never heard elven vampire or dwarven in warhammer fantasy, is vampirism is only applicable to human only? If so whats the fluff?
Elves are inmune to vampirism, and dwarven blood have bad taste
Each tier isn't cumulative upgrades.
GENTLEMAN OF THE NIGHT! Vampires and their nightclubs lmao keep up the good work Spartacus
I love this vampire lore! I gave up on vampires as monsters after twilight lol warhammer fantasy is awesome!
I dont know why i wanted a cheap ethereal alternative in the Spirit Host.
UPKEEP-FREE BATS!
I would have liked to see Strigoi lvl 1 be a little more comparable to the others. +20%ambush isn't that great. Something like the skaven ability to always get ambush battles could be cool if they mixed up their order of the 3 advances.
looks like they shrunk the Vampire Research
I dunno if anyone mentioned this but I'm pretty sure the "other" on blood kiss is from technology
i will have to give CA a good apploude since they acctually went and updated two (the vamps and previously the dwarfs) of the old tw warhammer 1 races hopefuly they contnue to update those old races for the mortal empire camaign
Do you know if the devs are aware for the von carstein lord and his vargheist malus oversight? Because I feel like this could really be annoying in campaigns
Reminds me of the new dwarf tech that came with the Warlord dlc. Early piece of tech would increase (instead of decrease) unit reload times -_-
Sir John Of USA Yeah they fixed it but if I remember correctly it took roughly a month (since they bundled the fix into a subsequent patch)
Love you sparty! Thanks for this
I wonder if they'll end up putting Araby in the game, I don't think it'd be too hard honestly.
Wish they would have given the lamians the attribute of "any hero activity performed in imposing territory increases that empires diplomatic relations with vampires or applies the "vampiric influence" diplomacy trait that I always see on a bunch of orks for some reason.
The vampiric influence is in the orcs trait list thanks to Azhags being controlled by Nagash through the crown of sorcery, think CA let it apply to other orc rulers by mistake....
@@DoddyIshamel I've never seen the greenskins with vampiric influence, only those two trubes in the mountains north and south east of the vampire counts.
Spartacus, when you did testing vs kholek, what was the Blood Dragon Mounted on? Zombie Dragon I assume?
That Waking Dead skill is amazing!!
Can you get the sword of khaine on a blood dragon lord?
Also the trait from defeating isabella.
Wasn't there some Lore on the Strigoi that they can't conciously use magic to cast spells, but passively/unwittingly use Dharr to attract/raise the undead? If so it would've been really cool if they introduced it in his skill line. Maybe some kind of aura which constantly heals/replenishes but sucks up winds of magic all the time. That would come with completely removing all his spells of course.
No, it is more that they instinctively know how to use magic rather than learn it.
@@adambielen8996 Ah, I see. But they could only be wizard level 1, so could only take a single spell. They also could take that spell from the Lore of Vampires. Thus giving them a unique magic-skilltree seems a bit off for me. In that regard it would be more thematic if he was a bit more like the Blood Dragon (only vampire Lore), with the good stuff taken away from magic being in some way added to his combat capability. He's supposed to be the bestial Juggernaught after all.
@@scelonferdi I wouldn't look too heavily into wizard level from TT, after all Warlock Engineers had to buy equipment to let them cast spells and Skink Priests could only be lv 2 wizards. Strigoi are better casters than Blood Dragons so I'm fine with how it plays out, he has mostly combat spells anyway. Also the Strigoi is still the Juggernaught, he has more raw damage and health than the other Bloodlines.
@@adambielen8996 Are they really better casters? I always thought they represent bottom level casting for vampires, apart from Luthor Harkon of course.
@@scelonferdi no, Blood Dragons are worse casters. This is both a trait of the Bloodline and also the due to the fact that most Blood Dragons also focus heavily on melee prowess to the detriment of their magical abilities. The Red Duke is the notable exception. CA actually shows this pretty well in the Blood Dragon skill tree, as they don't get Arcane Conduit, Earthing, or Power Reserves.
Also while Strigoi use magic instinctively the less crazy ones are able to use their casting abilities to its fullest potential, see Gashnag for an example.
The reasons vampires own/frequent night clubs should be rather obvious. They're open at night, crowded with people either drunk or tripping balls, and are one of the few places where public neck sucking is deemed appropriate. You'd be hard-pressed to find a more ideal environment for a vampire to feed in relative safety.
Also Vampire: The Masquerade did it, and Blade ripped off that and every subsequent vampire setting ripped off Blade until Twilight happened.
9:40 because their only other option is a night shop.
Bit late to the party but the sooner you get into the Lahmians the sooner you can unlock all of the other Bloodlines. The more assassins you have roaming the map the more Blood Kisses you can harvest.
although I like the undead, I find it not lore friendly for them to have missle units at all. neither the vampire coast nor the vampire counts.
Nehekara is diffrent in that regard since they are another form of undead.
I hope this means Tomb Kings get Immortality as well automatically.
Tomb king lords were always immortal
Lahmian without coven throne but with dragon :(
Was not giving the Strigoi Ghoul King an overcasted invocation of nehek purely a balance thing?
Any idea about the traits you get in the Bloodline Lords? I have some of them but they are stuck with one trait, it doesn't change at all, do we need to save and try every turn to not being stuck with a bad trait? I don't know if this is working as intended or if I got a bug due to some addons.
Cheers for the video! All these new lords look great and i can't wait to play them, but i hope they don't outshine the actual LL...how have their skill trees been reworked (if at all)?
I guess it is cool to not have to get all the mounts. hopefully they would change that with all the other lord.
this is nice:)
Have there been any changes to the DLC strigoi ghoul king? The red lines for the DLC and FLC versions are a bit different.
That's really stupid.
They really should've changed the Battle Skills for each of the bloodlines, instead of just giving them all the same thing.
I just don't know why the devs don't treat these newer lord types more like Wurrzag, with each of them getting their own particular buffs for the troops associated with them.
Like with the Strigoi Ghoul King, who should've gotten extra bonuses for Crypt Ghouls and Horrors and monstrous units and so on with the others.
"Strigowi", heh.
Can any other race besides humans become vampires? I always imagined a dark elf vampie
i think they can, but in practice basically non of them ever do, because elves live much longer than humans anyway, so they never really had a strong desire as humans for that extended lifespan, elves kinda get the vampire benefits without the drawbacks already
The only non human vampire to appear in canon was a halfling. Konrad von Carstein made him as a joke and Mannfred hunted him down because he was an abomination and a blight on the bloodline.
In one comic, a dwarf wished for immortality on a cursed artifact of Tzeentch and was turned into a vampire.
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Very cool and nice! But do anyone think is just OP all this? I mean, -80% discount or bonus for every vampire think... isnt so funny to play in campaign. Just think a lamnia liv 10 hero, with bloodline and personal ability reach a 120% discount for a action? In right?
In your test did you use kboleks star crusher? Or only the blood dragons abilities
Both
Who would want to play the boring legendary lords now when these cool blood line lords come out
Btw did vlad got a rework ? I mean he should have some new abilitys too right?
Did the blog dragon beat tyrion in your tests , if so then god damn .
As much as I'm a fan of all of the bloodlines except for the boring Von Carsteins... INFINITE FELL BATS does sound somewhat appealing...
did you try to test the blood dragon lord against Wulfrik on and off a mammoth?
Yup!
oof so much for the awesome "hunter of champions" and "master duelist" I mean his whole thing is to be able to best anyone in a duel XD
Is this already in the game?
What BL book does most of this lore come from?
Balefire brassieres!? Brazier is pronounced more like "bray-sure." Unless some vampires shoot dark fire out of their tits.
Most powerful 'melee combatant' in the lore perhaps, but I think anyone who suggests Abhorash or Aenarion or Gotrek or the likes as the most powerful character in the lore must clearly just not have done their homework on the Slann and how absolutely hilariously powerful they are, and especially Mazdamundi and Lord Kroak. In the lore, of course. It's not remotely reflected in the tabletop or game. Killed an ancient dragon? Won a shitload of duels? Wow, so impressive. Flattening whole cities with a single spell or literally creating a new mountain range, that's Mazdamundi-power, and he's supposedly way weaker than Kroak :p
If the Strigoi is +5 Vampiric corruption in ALL provinces, instead of just provinces you own, then I think that has to take priority next to that immediate 25% research rate.
It'd say mapwide, not all provinces, if that was the case.
Yea, all provinces means all your owned provinces. Would be WAY TOO POWERFUL if it was every single province everywhere.
I like your content but sometimes you just sound a little too excited or enthused when you’re talking about things that don’t justify that (in my opinion anyway) lol. Like little stat boosts or something. Normally I don’t really mind (and don’t get me wrong in general I appreciate enthusiasm) but if I’m in a certain mood it can get pretty annoying lol (you are similar to MilkandcookiesTW in this regard, I like both of you in general but this particular thing can get on my nerves from time to time).
What stops someone from getting all of them?
Dade Gilbert Nothing, but it will take a while especially if you're going for the tier 3 abilities.
Its not Carshtein its Carstein ;)
untrue. the proper pronunciation of Carstein is Carshtein.
@@italianspartacus i will highly suggest you to check it out as it is not like that,I dont know where you heard it but it is neither german pronunciation or anything with a sh
Anyway you do you
Thank you for the spoiler warning.
Going to try an all female leaders and heroes campaign.
Isabella, Lhamians lords with vampire and banshee heroes.
Whoops
CarSTIEN NOT CarSHTIEN
incorrect! german pronunciation is carSHtein :)
@@italianspartacus in the context of warhammer, no thats wrong, but in german pronounciation, yes
I'm kinda bumbed out by this bloodlines mechanic... It muddles the waters of the bloodlines for Vampire Counts. I maybe alone in this but to me it makes no sense for one bloodline to have other bloodlines working for them. CA should be doing more to separate them and make them more distinct, not bring them together.
That being said I'm fine with making other bloodlines sub-factions of VC but their lords and LLs souldn't be mixed. Especially now that the Strygos Empire and Necrarch Brotherhood are in the game as NPC factions, it wouldn't take much to turn then into unique playable subfactions.
Strygos Empire:
Legendary Lord
- Ushoran (New LL model to replace the generic Strygoi Ghoul King model.)
Lords
- Strygoi Ghoul King (Nothing new there just lift them from VC)
- Master Necromancers
Sub-faction traits - Lower recruitment cost & bonuses to Crypt Ghouls, Crypt Horrors, Vargheists and Varghulfs
Necrarch Brotherhood:
Legendary Lord
- W'soran (New LL model to replace the generic Strygoi Ghoul King model.)
Lords
- Necrarch Vampire (New model to replace the generic Vampire Lord)
- Master Necromancers
Sub-faction traits - Lower recruitment cost & bonuses to all Undead and Wraith units (excluding Ghouls. Monsters and Breasts)
We can use the same logic for Silver Pinnacle in TW:WH3 and maybe even Dieter Helsnicht could get his Doom Legion sub-faction like at some point like Kemmler's Barrow Legion. Oh almost forgot Abhorash & Walach Harkon for the Blood Dragons with their bonus to Bloods Knights.
If I recall correctly, the problem is really "what edition lore do you want to use", as I think in the last edition of warhammer fantasy it was all just sylvania and the von carstiens. Blending in more of the older edition lore is a great thing, I think, but sticking strictly to like, 2nd or 3rd edition lore alone wouldn't work out too much in the TW game.
@@vineveer4358 the last edition is basically end times and TW:WH is based in on more than just 8th Edition it draws on all. Most of the main Vampires from previous editions were mention to have been around During End times, plus we hgot new ones too but don't know if CA will include the new ones..
The various bloodlines can and do work together.