The fact that Nell was haunted by her own death her whole life is terrifying and so well done. Her fate was fixed the moment she set foot in Hill House. Love this episode
They say when you die, your life flashes before your eyes, and that's what happened. Only in this case, her past selves could see her in return. One of the best twists/reveals in TV history.
35:13 Yes. That’s exactly how I felt the first time I saw this. Shock. Numbed. Horrified. Confused. Like I’d been sucker punched in the solar plexus. Hard to breathe or think. Had to sit and process for several long minutes. I still get goosebumps every time. Such brilliant writing. The next episode is a masterclass in filmmaking. Can’t wait!
Probably one of the best twist in a horror series of all time, imo. At least top 5 anyway. Every reaction I’ve seen was basically the same 😮 face during that scene. So well done.
Being haunted by oneself thier whole life in Hill House .... Has got to be the most tragic life a little girl could have. Hope you recover well from this episode. 💘 🏆 📹 You're the best.
This show is a MASTERCLASS on storytelling. What a beautiful, harrowing story Nell’s -and the whole family’s- is. Thank you for this reaction, it’s a pleasure to see you be so attentive and empathetic ♥️
I love and hate how much Nell and Arthur mirror Olivia and Hugh (Nell's parents), both beautiful couples, so caring of each other, and the way Arthur supports Nell through her sleep paralysis is very reminiscent of how Hugh tried to be there for Olivia during her headaches. All the more tragic is how they share similar fates.
I haven't watched the show in a while, just snippets from youtube reactions, but could it be she stopped taking new meds cause the Bent neck lady was back? Maybe she thought it was a side effect. The meds were new and she saw her for the first time in a long time, I thought that was the reason
@@DeathsjesterKMNP That doesn't really make sense, as she was already seeing the BNL again before the new meds. She only threw them away after dropping Luke at rehab.
One of the best reactions I've seen! Mike Flanagan is a genius. When I saw this episode for the first time I just sat there stupefied for a time like you. Amazing writing, acting and directing and...everything really.
I found myself contemplating parts of this show for months afterwards when situations similar occurred in my life or in other shows I watched, and in particular, feeling those same intense feelings again - and I believe that's the mark of how fantastic this show is.
I find this twist as if its hold the door in reverse, she didnt know she was haunted by her own death until the moment it happened but was looking at her past self. In Hold the Door, Hodor always knew. Both are tragic, but the former is fiendishly cruel and horrifying.
Nell's episode and episode 9 (trying not to give any spoilers lol) are the most brutal episodes for me, in an already brutal series, so that says a lot about them. Every time I'm on rewatch I can't watch these two episodes in one go, I always have to take breaks.
This show understands that, horror or not, every ghost story is a tragedy as its core. Hope you keep going! The next one is a work of cinematic genius IMO.
The house had the power and the ability to show her,her own death and managed to haunt her mind so strong that it fallow her even after she left the house.
This scene gets worse and worse the more you pay attention: 1. It wasn't her mother that killed her. It was the house. Hill House used the specter of her mother to kill her. 2. The specter of her mother doesn't lay a finger on her. She pushes her over the edge with a literal kiss of death. 3. The shot of Nell's body hanging above the floor lasts a few seconds too long, so you think the cut to black and credits is coming immediately and THAT is when the episode rears back and punches you in the stomach. This is THE most frightening, heartbreaking, and shocking twist in all horror fiction.
That is true for me Sofie. I’ve had chronic nightmares and sleep paralysis since childhood and I only sleep on my stomach which helps a lot. It’s not foolproof but it also helps never to sleep more than 8 hours. You also went to make sure you are super tired so no naps, no resting in bed- I wait to get in bed until I cannot stay up any longer
This is one of the ... maybe THE saddest and most tragic plot twist i've ever seen. When i first watched this, i couldn't stop imagining what she must have felt in that moment, realizing she had been haunting herself the whole time. Poor Nellie 😪😪I love the writing and storytelling, but like you said, this is just cruel to do that to a character...
It wasn't actually Nell's mom that killed her, the house did. Her mom was mentally corrupted by the house while she was alive and because of that her spirit is somewhat corrupted as well. She is not exactly possessed, but she would also not have done that to Nellie if she wasn't under the house's influence.
Btw: I think that was the most satisfying reactions to this episode I have ever watched. Sorry for your pain though. But that's what we're all here for. 🥰
Olivia is acting particularly strangely in episode 5. Hazel Hill had a daughter, Jacqueline. That's her cup of stars. I think for Mike Flanagan, cup of stars symbolises death. He's an atheist, and he seems to subscribe to Carl Sagan's notion we're all just stardust, and that when we die, that's what we become, cf. Midnight Mass. So, drinking from a cup of stars means tasting of death. It's also a bit of foreshadowing. The old lady is Hazel Hill, whom Clara Dudley looked-after. Hazel's brother is William Hill, the tall ghost who haunted Luke for his hat. Hazel and William are the children of Jacob Hill. He built Hill House. Nellie was staying at the same hotel the family stayed at after fleeing Hill House. There's a direct link between Nellie taking psychotropic medications and Luke's addiction. If Nellie doesn't take her meds, Luke remains clean. Now that Nellie's dead, we presume Luke has conquered his addictions. There are quite a few recurrent motifs in the series. One is the color _red,_ which can symbolise danger or love. Maybe even dangerous love? There's unknown menace of the Red Room. Ghost Olivia is wearing a red dress. The colour red appears throughout the series. It's important to mark it. Another motif is _time._ There are clocks, watches and the sound of ticking clocks. Also, the timeline of the series is non-linear. That's why the time motif. The House bends/breaks time and space. It can then rearrange time and space as it pleases. It's related to the Maze motif. There's the _fixing_ motif. Hugh and Olivia fix houses; Steven fixes people who've seen ghosts by providing non-supernatural alternate explanations; Shirley fixes bodies and helps grieving families; Theo fixes disturbed children; Luke is trying to fix himself and Nell, along with Hugh, are trying to fix the family. Nell and Hugh are probably the most unselfish members of the family. This may be why they've been able to remain close to one another. They certainly have the tenderest interactions. Recall what happened at 3 after the hour, all the surviving siblings clutched their necks. When Steve told Luke that Nell was dead, Luke made a motion towards his neck. They all supernaturally sensed how Nell died. While the family does suffer from PTSD-like trauma, clearly something supernatural is happening. Another motif is the _come home_ motif. It may be the most concerning of all. Notice how the House seduces poor Nellie by giving her everything she's ever wanted. Dreams/waking-up is another important motif. Now that Luke is clean, he's starting to see things clearly for the first time, and he doesn't wear glasses anymore. 😉Like Olivia says: "We take care of this House, it takes care of us."
I think if you asked Nelly while she was alive if she would give her life for one more dance with her husband she, and most of us, would say yes. Some people may say it poetically but others really mean it.
I love your channel reactions to atla, got and hotd, I still need to catch up on these. Please look into reacting to "From" it's not as many reactors I think you would love the mystery and suspence and the characters
SPOILER . . . . . . . We find out in the final episodes that it's not the house's fault at all. Poppy is the only evil ghost - the other ghosts - or even the house - aren't doing anything bad.
@@jhornacek SPOLERS FOLLOWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't believe Poppy is THE evil in this house, although she is mentally ill as well as vicious. The house itself is malevolent in some real way, slowly devouring the souls trapped within its walls. When it gained access to Olivia's psychic power it began to be able to do more, and still more when Nell stopped taking her meds which made her more vulnerable to the power of the house. Once Nell died in the house, it now had access to still more raw psychic power so it could reach out to Luke, to Shirley, etc. Nell ultimately fought back. Poppy and Olivia were tools of teh House, the former more obviously because she is emotionally unstable to put it mildly. The latter is in a more vulnerable state not least because of her ability to "see" things. With Nell and then Hugh within the house, there are wills matched against teh evil of the house so teh rest of teh family is probably safe. I remember reading an idea Mike Flannagan had (although it was not sourced so who knows if this was true?) that the house was in some sense alive but the Hills were such a toxic family the house got a totally distorted idea of what it meant to be alive, to be a family, to have any kind of a relationship with others. Which makes sense to me, and tends to be my own head canon.
So she thought that by throwing them away it would make him stop relapsing, and it worked cause since that he got better at rehab and later got his 90 day chip
@@brunaribeiro8905 it’s an explanation some viewers seem to favor, but it does not make sense to me. Why would antidepressants or antipsychotics prevent her brother from getting clean? How could they make him relapse? If anything they should improve Nell’s mental health after a few weeks (and maybe Luke’s in a snowball effect) I think that her treatment makes Nell feel numb and disconnected from her twin, which she hates + possibly induces hallucinations as a side effect, which terrify her. But abruptly stopping this type of treatment is extremely dangerous. It makes her lose her last shreds of sanity and increases her vulnerability.
@@ccispahan7514 The twins felt everything together. When Luke worded using drugs as 'getting well', Nell realized her drugs to get well were affecting her twin. She stopped so that he could stop, and it worked for Luke... but not for her.
Sleep paralysis sometimes is related to extrasensorial habilities and spirits. In these cases it doesn't matter the possition. There're places that work as portals. The energy there is so intense that can manifest future and the past.
she throw the meds away because the doctor said they are new. So she thought maybe the new meds have sometihing to do with the bent necks lady return or at least they are useless
@@brunaribeiro8905 makes no sense because he was addicted 10 years before and stopped withdrawal in that time too and she is in panic as she throws away them after seeing the bent neck lady again. But her doctor speaks explicit from the NEW meds she gets
No, she stops taking her meds when Luke is in rehab. If she's taking drugs then Luke will feel it, which will affect his getting off of heroin. She literally mentions their "twin thing" to the doctor.
@@jhornacek and why should she IN PANIC throw away her meds because Luke is in rehab, especially when he consumed heroin just before it? And Luke was in rehab before and didnt make it. And when its a twin thing, why should meds to CALM HER DOWN be a problem for his rehab? It just dont make sense guys, sorry
@@Rastayeti666 Because she knows she has to get rid of her medication right now because Luke has gone into rehab while high on heroin. She is feeling what he is feeling, and she can't be taking her medication to mix with that, and it will also affect Luke. And the reason Luke didn't make it in rehab before is because ... SPOILER ALERT ... addicts relapse all the time, even when it has nothing to do with a twin connection or ghosts. We literally say Joey relapse after 9 months of sobriety. Your theory doesn't make sense guy, sorry.
its heartbreaking to think about it, the bent neck lady was as scared to see little nell as little nell was scared to see the bent neck lady
The Bent Neck Lady twist is the reason this show is one of my favorites! I'm glad you didn't see it coming, that reaction was gold!
"It's beautiful and creepy at the same time..." That is the genius of Mike Flanagan.
The fact that Nell was haunted by her own death her whole life is terrifying and so well done. Her fate was fixed the moment she set foot in Hill House. Love this episode
It’s, “Everything coming full circle”, in the darkest way….
I loved the way Nell passed through each appearance of the bent neck lady during the end reveal. Absolutely chilling the way that scene was executed.
This is the type of episode that just leaves you in shock.
They say when you die, your life flashes before your eyes, and that's what happened. Only in this case, her past selves could see her in return. One of the best twists/reveals in TV history.
35:13 Yes. That’s exactly how I felt the first time I saw this. Shock. Numbed. Horrified. Confused. Like I’d been sucker punched in the solar plexus. Hard to breathe or think. Had to sit and process for several long minutes.
I still get goosebumps every time. Such brilliant writing.
The next episode is a masterclass in filmmaking. Can’t wait!
Probably one of the best twist in a horror series of all time, imo. At least top 5 anyway. Every reaction I’ve seen was basically the same 😮 face during that scene. So well done.
The writing in this show is jawdropping.
Being haunted by oneself thier whole life in Hill House .... Has got to be the most tragic life a little girl could have. Hope you recover well from this episode. 💘 🏆 📹 You're the best.
This show is a MASTERCLASS on storytelling. What a beautiful, harrowing story Nell’s -and the whole family’s- is. Thank you for this reaction, it’s a pleasure to see you be so attentive and empathetic ♥️
I love and hate how much Nell and Arthur mirror Olivia and Hugh (Nell's parents), both beautiful couples, so caring of each other, and the way Arthur supports Nell through her sleep paralysis is very reminiscent of how Hugh tried to be there for Olivia during her headaches. All the more tragic is how they share similar fates.
She stopped taking the medication for Luke, so it didn't interfere with him getting clean in rehab.
I don't think she knew that's what he needed to get clean.
I haven't watched the show in a while, just snippets from youtube reactions, but could it be she stopped taking new meds cause the Bent neck lady was back? Maybe she thought it was a side effect. The meds were new and she saw her for the first time in a long time, I thought that was the reason
Nah. She just thought the meds we're causing her to see the BNL again.
@@DeathsjesterKMNP That doesn't really make sense, as she was already seeing the BNL again before the new meds. She only threw them away after dropping Luke at rehab.
One of the best reactions I've seen! Mike Flanagan is a genius. When I saw this episode for the first time I just sat there stupefied for a time like you. Amazing writing, acting and directing and...everything really.
I found myself contemplating parts of this show for months afterwards when situations similar occurred in my life or in other shows I watched, and in particular, feeling those same intense feelings again - and I believe that's the mark of how fantastic this show is.
SoFie, I’ve been looking forward to your reaction to this one. You did not disappoint!
ive been so excited to see you react to this episode, it makes me bawl my eyes out every time
One of the best twists in TV history.
I find this twist as if its hold the door in reverse, she didnt know she was haunted by her own death until the moment it happened but was looking at her past self.
In Hold the Door, Hodor always knew.
Both are tragic, but the former is fiendishly cruel and horrifying.
Nell's episode and episode 9 (trying not to give any spoilers lol) are the most brutal episodes for me, in an already brutal series, so that says a lot about them. Every time I'm on rewatch I can't watch these two episodes in one go, I always have to take breaks.
most valid and relatable reaction i've ever seen to this bone chilling reveal... it's just unbelievable.
The twist with the Bent-Neck Lady is so good! But also very sad and tragic. Poor Nell :(
This show understands that, horror or not, every ghost story is a tragedy as its core.
Hope you keep going! The next one is a work of cinematic genius IMO.
This episode haunted me for days. Chilling stuff. Great reaction btw.
Insanely heartbreaking. Goosebumps and tears every time we go through the “haunting” montage at the end.
The second best episode of the series, in my opinion.
The house had the power and the ability to show her,her own death and managed to haunt her mind so strong that it fallow her even after she left the house.
This scene gets worse and worse the more you pay attention:
1. It wasn't her mother that killed her. It was the house. Hill House used the specter of her mother to kill her.
2. The specter of her mother doesn't lay a finger on her. She pushes her over the edge with a literal kiss of death.
3. The shot of Nell's body hanging above the floor lasts a few seconds too long, so you think the cut to black and credits is coming immediately and THAT is when the episode rears back and punches you in the stomach.
This is THE most frightening, heartbreaking, and shocking twist in all horror fiction.
That is true for me Sofie. I’ve had chronic nightmares and sleep paralysis since childhood and I only sleep on my stomach which helps a lot. It’s not foolproof but it also helps never to sleep more than 8 hours. You also went to make sure you are super tired so no naps, no resting in bed- I wait to get in bed until I cannot stay up any longer
I am pretty sure now you should watch the German Netflix show DARK one time
23:42 Yeah you can see emptiness in his eyes
This is one of the ... maybe THE saddest and most tragic plot twist i've ever seen. When i first watched this, i couldn't stop imagining what she must have felt in that moment, realizing she had been haunting herself the whole time. Poor Nellie 😪😪I love the writing and storytelling, but like you said, this is just cruel to do that to a character...
8:18 "At least she has him"
oops
I like this episode so much, this show has the best plots ever
this is when the show progress from horror to sad...
It wasn't actually Nell's mom that killed her, the house did. Her mom was mentally corrupted by the house while she was alive and because of that her spirit is somewhat corrupted as well. She is not exactly possessed, but she would also not have done that to Nellie if she wasn't under the house's influence.
Btw: I think that was the most satisfying reactions to this episode I have ever watched.
Sorry for your pain though. But that's what we're all here for. 🥰
ah i was waiting for you to get to this one!
This episode is soooo good and so sad😢😢I loved this show
Olivia is acting particularly strangely in episode 5. Hazel Hill had a daughter, Jacqueline. That's her cup of stars. I think for Mike Flanagan, cup of stars symbolises death. He's an atheist, and he seems to subscribe to Carl Sagan's notion we're all just stardust, and that when we die, that's what we become, cf. Midnight Mass. So, drinking from a cup of stars means tasting of death. It's also a bit of foreshadowing. The old lady is Hazel Hill, whom Clara Dudley looked-after. Hazel's brother is William Hill, the tall ghost who haunted Luke for his hat. Hazel and William are the children of Jacob Hill. He built Hill House. Nellie was staying at the same hotel the family stayed at after fleeing Hill House. There's a direct link between Nellie taking psychotropic medications and Luke's addiction. If Nellie doesn't take her meds, Luke remains clean. Now that Nellie's dead, we presume Luke has conquered his addictions. There are quite a few recurrent motifs in the series. One is the color _red,_ which can symbolise danger or love. Maybe even dangerous love? There's unknown menace of the Red Room. Ghost Olivia is wearing a red dress. The colour red appears throughout the series. It's important to mark it. Another motif is _time._ There are clocks, watches and the sound of ticking clocks. Also, the timeline of the series is non-linear. That's why the time motif. The House bends/breaks time and space. It can then rearrange time and space as it pleases. It's related to the Maze motif. There's the _fixing_ motif. Hugh and Olivia fix houses; Steven fixes people who've seen ghosts by providing non-supernatural alternate explanations; Shirley fixes bodies and helps grieving families; Theo fixes disturbed children; Luke is trying to fix himself and Nell, along with Hugh, are trying to fix the family. Nell and Hugh are probably the most unselfish members of the family. This may be why they've been able to remain close to one another. They certainly have the tenderest interactions. Recall what happened at 3 after the hour, all the surviving siblings clutched their necks. When Steve told Luke that Nell was dead, Luke made a motion towards his neck. They all supernaturally sensed how Nell died. While the family does suffer from PTSD-like trauma, clearly something supernatural is happening. Another motif is the _come home_ motif. It may be the most concerning of all. Notice how the House seduces poor Nellie by giving her everything she's ever wanted. Dreams/waking-up is another important motif. Now that Luke is clean, he's starting to see things clearly for the first time, and he doesn't wear glasses anymore. 😉Like Olivia says: "We take care of this House, it takes care of us."
One of the greatest ‘rug pulls’ in television history
Nell deserved so much better😢
Ghosts exist beyond time.
Same babe, same. That's some scary shit.
i have sleep paralysis with hallucinations visual and audible XD welcome to my life hahahaha
I am so sorry for you. I can not imagine. How do you cope with that? Are there strategies? :(
loved it! keep going.
you are watching all my favs rn! i would love if you started community it’s very funny a light so the opposite of this show lol
She pulled a Hodor on herself.
I think if you asked Nelly while she was alive if she would give her life for one more dance with her husband she, and most of us, would say yes. Some people may say it poetically but others really mean it.
I love your channel reactions to atla, got and hotd, I still need to catch up on these. Please look into reacting to "From" it's not as many reactors I think you would love the mystery and suspence and the characters
From this episode on, I genuinely HATED this house.
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We find out in the final episodes that it's not the house's fault at all. Poppy is the only evil ghost - the other ghosts - or even the house - aren't doing anything bad.
@@jhornacek SPOLERS FOLLOWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't believe Poppy is THE evil in this house, although she is mentally ill as well as vicious. The house itself is malevolent in some real way, slowly devouring the souls trapped within its walls. When it gained access to Olivia's psychic power it began to be able to do more, and still more when Nell stopped taking her meds which made her more vulnerable to the power of the house. Once Nell died in the house, it now had access to still more raw psychic power so it could reach out to Luke, to Shirley, etc. Nell ultimately fought back. Poppy and Olivia were tools of teh House, the former more obviously because she is emotionally unstable to put it mildly. The latter is in a more vulnerable state not least because of her ability to "see" things. With Nell and then Hugh within the house, there are wills matched against teh evil of the house so teh rest of teh family is probably safe.
I remember reading an idea Mike Flannagan had (although it was not sourced so who knows if this was true?) that the house was in some sense alive but the Hills were such a toxic family the house got a totally distorted idea of what it meant to be alive, to be a family, to have any kind of a relationship with others. Which makes sense to me, and tends to be my own head canon.
you should watch lake mungo , beautiful creepy horror movie
Told you so
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@19:39: she might have thought that her medication was responsible for the return of the bent-neck lady.
No, it was because her taking the medication was making Luke relapse because of the twin thing.
So she thought that by throwing them away it would make him stop relapsing, and it worked cause since that he got better at rehab and later got his 90 day chip
@@brunaribeiro8905 it’s an explanation some viewers seem to favor, but it does not make sense to me. Why would antidepressants or antipsychotics prevent her brother from getting clean? How could they make him relapse? If anything they should improve Nell’s mental health after a few weeks (and maybe Luke’s in a snowball effect)
I think that her treatment makes Nell feel numb and disconnected from her twin, which she hates + possibly induces hallucinations as a side effect, which terrify her. But abruptly stopping this type of treatment is extremely dangerous. It makes her lose her last shreds of sanity and increases her vulnerability.
@@ccispahan7514 The twins felt everything together. When Luke worded using drugs as 'getting well', Nell realized her drugs to get well were affecting her twin. She stopped so that he could stop, and it worked for Luke... but not for her.
Sleep paralysis sometimes is related to extrasensorial habilities and spirits. In these cases it doesn't matter the possition. There're places that work as portals. The energy there is so intense that can manifest future and the past.
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@16:50: … AND she is a therapist herself… should know better about what grief and depression do to people.
A suicide victim being haunted by their own suicide is… really something. I’m sure a lot of people can relate.
Don’t do it.
she throw the meds away because the doctor said they are new. So she thought maybe the new meds have sometihing to do with the bent necks lady return or at least they are useless
Her taking the medication was stopping Luke from getting clean because of the twin thing, so she stopped taking them and Luke got clean after that
@@brunaribeiro8905 makes no sense because he was addicted 10 years before and stopped withdrawal in that time too and she is in panic as she throws away them after seeing the bent neck lady again. But her doctor speaks explicit from the NEW meds she gets
No, she stops taking her meds when Luke is in rehab. If she's taking drugs then Luke will feel it, which will affect his getting off of heroin. She literally mentions their "twin thing" to the doctor.
@@jhornacek and why should she IN PANIC throw away her meds because Luke is in rehab, especially when he consumed heroin just before it? And Luke was in rehab before and didnt make it. And when its a twin thing, why should meds to CALM HER DOWN be a problem for his rehab? It just dont make sense guys, sorry
@@Rastayeti666 Because she knows she has to get rid of her medication right now because Luke has gone into rehab while high on heroin. She is feeling what he is feeling, and she can't be taking her medication to mix with that, and it will also affect Luke.
And the reason Luke didn't make it in rehab before is because ... SPOILER ALERT ... addicts relapse all the time, even when it has nothing to do with a twin connection or ghosts. We literally say Joey relapse after 9 months of sobriety.
Your theory doesn't make sense guy, sorry.