Honest Review: Adipurush | Stop Insulting Our Ancient Culture | Prabhas, Kriti Sanon, Saif Ali Khan

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  • Adipurush is a 2023 Indian epic mythological movie based on the Hindu epic Ramayana. The film is written and directed by Adipurush. Shot simultaneously in Hindi and Telugu, Adipurush movie stars Prabhas, Kriti Sanon, Saif Ali Khan, Sunny Singh and Devdatta Nage.
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  • @mensxp
    @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +207

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    • @prevuer
      @prevuer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adipurush wale apna universe Bana rahe he next movie me Adipurush aur Mahabharat ka crossover dikhaya jaega jisme dikhaya jaega ki shakuni kese Sara gold jeet ke chala Gaya he. Isiliye stone age dikha dia.

    • @spprantick.official
      @spprantick.official ปีที่แล้ว

      Adipurush time is off👎 now Salaar time start😎😎

    • @riteshmahale3631
      @riteshmahale3631 ปีที่แล้ว

      Iske jagah Flash Dekhlu ?

    • @niteshkujur7096
      @niteshkujur7096 ปีที่แล้ว

      Islamic version of ramayan

    • @nishitparmar6344
      @nishitparmar6344 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sahi kha bro we are just avoid this film and ek achi bat khi ki book leke khud pdho yhi sahi chiz he ramayan janne ki pr sahi authentication jagahse book Lena vrna ajkl nakli book bhi change ki hue milti h

  • @aubergineYT
    @aubergineYT ปีที่แล้ว +699

    Japanese made it 1000000 × better in animation. The dialogues and the feel of that animated movie are so good.. so overwhelming ❤ they kept all the facts and purity intact in the animated movie.

    • @ProfitableTrader365
      @ProfitableTrader365 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      before 30 year

    • @Ace-mw4pw
      @Ace-mw4pw ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And preserved and amply depicted all the key aspects of the epic in 1 and half hrs of its runtime...

    • @shubhankarthakur397
      @shubhankarthakur397 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Legend of Hanuman is also good

    • @vijayganesh7367
      @vijayganesh7367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Creative liberty usme bhi bohot thi, bohot thi, ha par fir bhi thik movie thi eo

    • @priyv8710
      @priyv8710 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      even they had taken some creative liberty but they never disrespected the epic...it was so well made

  • @simunoor1996
    @simunoor1996 ปีที่แล้ว +598

    The characters "Ram" and "Lakshman" had great bond as brothers. The plot of the villian was good. The female lead looked beautiful in saree and had good chemistry with "Ram". Overall, "Main hoon na" was a nice movie to watch 🙂

  • @shafiqueahmed8647
    @shafiqueahmed8647 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I really wish S.S. Rajamouli should take his chance, I know he is the only director who can bring justice to our expectations.

  • @riyazahmad4232
    @riyazahmad4232 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I've grown up watching shows on Ramayana on DD National. There was this show called Sankat Mochan Hanuman. I think the story has been portrayed in a must better manner in that show with limited resources.

    • @nirmalkour3759
      @nirmalkour3759 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj ji Devi Devta ki bhakti chudwate nahin hai Sahi vidhi batate hain aap bhi sant Rampal Ji Maharaj ji ka

    • @ladusingh2141
      @ladusingh2141 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think unnecessary over reaction. People will settle down and enjoy this film in a couple of weeks. Modiji has endorsed it and much soch key kiya hoga. Yes dialogues are a bit original but it is 2023 . Some up gradation for New India and Modiji is correct . Never in the last 7000 years has anyone made a film like this.

  • @toukirahmed966
    @toukirahmed966 ปีที่แล้ว +2263

    No one can beat Ramanand Sagor’s “Ramayan”❤

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +154

      truly!😊

    • @VikashKumar-kw5ck
      @VikashKumar-kw5ck ปีที่แล้ว +8

      💯💯💯💯💯👍👍👍👍👍

    • @Imcrazyfornaruto
      @Imcrazyfornaruto ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think b r chopra’s mahabharata beats it quite comfortably ,, the charactaers the dialogues storyline everything is better than Ramanand Sagar’s Ramayana

    • @consciousworld9161
      @consciousworld9161 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      ​@@Imcrazyfornarutodon't compare
      RAMAYANA and MAHABHARATA

    • @KLT3T
      @KLT3T ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I wish we had exact copy of that but with amazing vfx and cinematography. I would sell my house to watch that

  • @DimpleAwasthi12
    @DimpleAwasthi12 ปีที่แล้ว +1217

    This was a huge opportunity....western media was slowly getting more interested in Indian cinema and film making and it was the perfect time for a proper representation of our culture in the western media....but all of it has gone futile.
    I genuinely want someone to make our epics into good webseries format so ppl across linguistic borders could see how severely underrated our culture is...but I think it will take a long while before that happens sadly 😔

    • @sarthak_chandra
      @sarthak_chandra ปีที่แล้ว +24

      But why should we even look for western acceptance? Aren't we good enough to judge and enjoy our films?

    • @Anurag_103
      @Anurag_103 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@sarthak_chandra *Because western movies may have some mistakes but they try to be very accurate and never play victim cards or sentiments, and not compromise with quality and say atleast we did or budget excuse, their ideas are larger than life not characters so i would love to see ramayan to be made by hollywood or other industry.*

    • @sarthak_chandra
      @sarthak_chandra ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Anurag_103 no, I'd never want Hollywood to make a Ramayan depiction. Did you see what they have done with Greek gods in Marvel? Zeus was absolutely bizarre and look what they have done with Thor

    • @Anurag_103
      @Anurag_103 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sarthak_chandra *for them greek gods are normal and only character and noone is asking to make history about greek gods, but if the intentions to make ramayan then only hollywood will make justice.*

    • @sarthak_chandra
      @sarthak_chandra ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Anurag_103 they've literally made fun of Christianity and you think they will respect Hinduism?

  • @politicswala9843
    @politicswala9843 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    After watching this my respect for Disney+ Hotstars the legend of Hanuman has grown Significantly. Affcourse there are animation quality issue but in terms of asthetics and presentation it's great and conversation between characters are so interesting to listen to.

  • @yasshhhh6097
    @yasshhhh6097 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    My respect for star plus's siya ke ram...
    That casting was insane 🔥

    • @govindgargi27
      @govindgargi27 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly! Siya ke Ram....and Mahabharata by Star Plus is the best in last two decades..the cast .... dialogues everything is excellent!!

    • @zola5653
      @zola5653 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ikr!!! They should've casted them!!!!!!

  • @SohailS10
    @SohailS10 ปีที่แล้ว +621

    Shubham bhai ka itna gussa pehli baar dekh raha hoon...just shows how the movie has insulted people's emotions towards their culture

    • @paritoshsharma6092
      @paritoshsharma6092 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Muksan-eh8yo mother india cult classic movie hai … iska matlb hota hai ki something that will be remembered for ages and is good … literal meaning pe kyu jaate ho … aadhi adhuri english padh ke mat aaya karo comment karne

    • @saurabhkumar-xj1en
      @saurabhkumar-xj1en ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paritoshsharma6092 mother india propaganda movie tha jo sirf brahman ko galat bataya h

    • @pranjulkulshreshtha238
      @pranjulkulshreshtha238 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gussa sahi hai

    • @Singhshubham137
      @Singhshubham137 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Usne fir bhi kam bola hai. Saw this movie yesterday. It deserves more backlash and should be avoided at all cost.

    • @Munmun_123
      @Munmun_123 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sachme

  • @Kabeirbisla
    @Kabeirbisla ปีที่แล้ว +229

    Ramcharan in RRR was a really good example of how lord Ram should be portrait in recent times.

    • @tejesheconomics4072
      @tejesheconomics4072 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      😂😂 it depends on director.......even prabhas was given the same role under any director like Rajamouli....he will mould him into Ram..

    • @k18fannitishthakurwith44
      @k18fannitishthakurwith44 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tejesheconomics4072 f

    • @AmarGupta-oj5sz
      @AmarGupta-oj5sz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Behti ganga mein tum bhi haath dholo Shubham bhai hahahahah

    • @ISA-yz9qv
      @ISA-yz9qv ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AmarGupta-oj5sz bahut sahi kaha sabhi abhi behti ganga mein haath dho rahe hain kyun ki yehi time hai berozgaron ke liye .. Tum bhi kuch dhoondo .. Muslin bashing is safest way to make money .

    • @Kabeirbisla
      @Kabeirbisla ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ISA-yz9qv isme muslin bashing kaha kardi ?

  • @SuromitaMondal
    @SuromitaMondal ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There's a Bengali poem by Michael Madhusudan Dutta, named Meghnad Badh Kavya (Bengali: মেঘনাদবধ কাব্য).. plzz read it if you can.. it is based on the demise of Indrajit.. you will know many more things about him from that poem that he was more than just a mare villain, like shown in that stupid film
    "The great hero, being defeated in a face-to-face battle,
    Beerbahu, leaves to the dead man's world,
    long before he should have..."
    _these are the translation of first 4 lines

  • @kyrios1120
    @kyrios1120 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If Yugo Sako’s Ramayan movie gets more attention from people due to this movie then that would be best thing to come out of Adipurush. People will get to know how much an outsider put into creating animated Ramayan
    Also at 4:10 He is looking like Baldur from God of War game bhai literally

  • @Wcc2_2002
    @Wcc2_2002 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    The two lead characters "Ram" and "Laxman" shared good chemistry and bond as brothers. The female lead looks pretty in a saree and had great chemistry with "Ram". Villain's look in the second half was odd. Overall "Main Hoon Na" was a full on paisa vasool movie.

  • @aswadali5896
    @aswadali5896 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    90s animated Ramayan is the best one. Japanese hokr unhone culture better samjha. No one can beat that. Bollywood agr usko hi copy krta it would be so great its been there since long.

  • @kenamreemas3295
    @kenamreemas3295 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    This boycott culture actually scared away people like Amir Khan who wanted to make a series of movies on Mahabharata, who could have done justice to the films and the epics we have.
    This is what we get if we boycott films left right and centre without applying any brain to it. We need to develop critical thinking as an audience.

    • @servingitcold5107
      @servingitcold5107 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are speaking out of your arse. 😂 You think Adipurush is the result of boycott? Nope. Adipursh’s result should be boycott 😂

    • @jobangharekhan2601
      @jobangharekhan2601 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aamir khan is anti hindu and always mocks sanatan dharm through his films so it's better that he stays away from oyr sacred texts

    • @dlmperplex337
      @dlmperplex337 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What would Amir Khan have done? Please tell me!? Are you sure he wouldn't have butchered another classic of our precious culture?

    • @catto-vu6bg
      @catto-vu6bg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amir khan ka track record hai of hurting sanatani sentiments. He should stay away from our epics.
      aur zyda mann hai toh Quran pe bnaye movie !!!

    • @fit_wid_geek
      @fit_wid_geek ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Moreover, his past movie was a flop because of poor writing and adaptation of a classic like Forest Gump, let us please stop placating ourselves by calling it a product of "boycott culture".

  • @finitamathew2061
    @finitamathew2061 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ya he is right... I m a Christian but I have seen Ramcharitmanas animated movie since my childhood.... and I have learned the stories from that movie

  • @RetroScope3
    @RetroScope3 ปีที่แล้ว +1310

    From the beginning of this drama, I was sure that this was going to be an epic disaster. Now everyone appreciate the VFX of Brahamstra. Hope that Bollywood will understand now not everytime religion will save you.

    • @DibyajitSwain
      @DibyajitSwain ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Adipurush also product of Bollywood. .😅😅

    • @max-cs9ko
      @max-cs9ko ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Brahmastra is a good movie and successful too

    • @truths2373facts
      @truths2373facts ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is not movie our Hindu calture don't campare with any other films

    • @adarsh2879
      @adarsh2879 ปีที่แล้ว

      but what is the problem in modernization of ramayan i think they want to cater to young audience

    • @amitsarkar0909
      @amitsarkar0909 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@@DibyajitSwain Telugu mai shoot hoyi thi
      And Hindi Mai dubbed to AAP ise Bollywood ka product kaise keh sakte ho

  • @RJ05079
    @RJ05079 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    I think they heavily underestimated the significance of Ram and Ramayan in our lives. For most of us, especially people who grew up in small cities, along with religious sentiments, Ramayan induces nostalgia… The ‘good old days’ of watching Ramayan on a Sunday with our grandparents & family.. almost everyone crying after an emotional scene.. a long discussion at the end of an episode…
    This movie is just heartbreaking!

  • @Ravidasmanikpuri08
    @Ravidasmanikpuri08 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    कबीर साहेब जी ही वास्तव में आदिपुरूष हैं। जिनका जन्म मां के गर्भ से नहीं हुआ। कबीर साहेब जी कहते हैं -
    ना मेरा जन्म न गर्भ बसेरा , बालक बन दिखलाया।
    काशी नगर जल कमल पर डेरा , तहां जुलाहे ने पाया।।

  • @YogeshKumar-rx5yf
    @YogeshKumar-rx5yf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    मनुष्य जीवन बहुत अनमोल है यह फिल्म देखने के लिए नही बल्कि सत्य भक्ति करने के लिए मिला है

  • @kushalgulwani6737
    @kushalgulwani6737 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    Bollywood has Karthik Aryan , Menxp has Shubham!
    Shubham: “12 mins of rant”
    Viewers : “bhai hamare saath bhi hua”
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      😂😂

    • @manichatt
      @manichatt ปีที่แล้ว

      Honest review .. loved the review

    • @yashlakhmani8565
      @yashlakhmani8565 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had same thought while watching, WTC ke review ke baad ye, this was needed.

    • @Muksan-eh8yo
      @Muksan-eh8yo ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mensxpWhy are calling ramayan 'Cult classic' ?? Cult is a negative word we know

  • @amanbisht7840
    @amanbisht7840 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I like how he describes the cast so that everyone knows how the actor is popularly known

  • @aditisoni6790
    @aditisoni6790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mad respect for you Mensxp , I applaud you for speaking the truth that too with so much emotions... Thank you for this review

  • @urlucky001
    @urlucky001 ปีที่แล้ว

    I m subscribing u. Ye effort zari rehni chahiye

  • @KuldeepSingh-um4jx
    @KuldeepSingh-um4jx ปีที่แล้ว +593

    Only Rajamouli sir has the capability to do justice to our culture and only he has the vision to present Ramayan on a large scale. ❤❤

    • @9406560429
      @9406560429 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      tumhe kaise pata bhai
      rajamouli bata k Gae kya

    • @KuldeepSingh-um4jx
      @KuldeepSingh-um4jx ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@9406560429 look at his track record

    • @madhurmumbai726
      @madhurmumbai726 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Sorry Rajamouli is good for over the top masala films. Not for this kind of films. He will let Lord Rama screaming non stop and jump from Bharat to Lanka like Superman. We need a director who makes dignified films and highly talented in performance acting.

    • @tejaswinithukral6534
      @tejaswinithukral6534 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sanjay Leela bhansali is the apt choice or Ashutosh Gowarikar

    • @nilamdevi8676
      @nilamdevi8676 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@madhurmumbai726 bhak....

  • @hahahehehoho8191
    @hahahehehoho8191 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    This movie really makes you realise the quality of the animated Ramayan from our childhood.

    • @rajbiswas249
      @rajbiswas249 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cause that animated film was made by Japan. That's why its quality was on another level

    • @ArjunSingh-kx1ok
      @ArjunSingh-kx1ok ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@rajbiswas249 bro even a Japanese can make such a good represention of Ramayan ...and our indian frgt our culture 🥹🥹

    • @rajbiswas249
      @rajbiswas249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ArjunSingh-kx1ok and we Indians are mainly responsible for that.

    • @ArjunSingh-kx1ok
      @ArjunSingh-kx1ok ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rajbiswas249 yes we are.....we are becoming modern and dnt even realise that our culture are wrongly dipicted because today's generation havnt read a single page of Ramayanan 😔😔

    • @swarnavabanerjee4112
      @swarnavabanerjee4112 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@rajbiswas249watch hanuman catoon movie it's great

  • @tiwariarani
    @tiwariarani ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh my God
    That’s the frustration I felt and I need in a review
    You’re each word is right you are absolutely right
    Bingo to you

  • @khanbasheer1363
    @khanbasheer1363 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ramayan is a well documented story known by masses in India irrespective of religion. If these filmakers can manipulate this epic and highly influential story then take a moment to think about the other period movies they have made. People never quentioned the authenticity of those movies coz we vs them theme was presented. The point here is to Never trust these filmmakers.

  • @codeytherex5954
    @codeytherex5954 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    They used Ramayan as an opportunity while it should have been treated like a responsibility

  • @faisalkhan4573
    @faisalkhan4573 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    Ramayan is an epic story...
    It should be portrayed very well but here they made it disastrous...!

    • @tusharsharma8952
      @tusharsharma8952 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      disaster is a small word!

    • @top5hindi919
      @top5hindi919 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bhai barbad kar diya Ramayan ko bollywoodio ne😢

    • @razikrazi1351
      @razikrazi1351 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yaar even I was excited to watch adipurush....and by seeing review by heart for broke

    • @top5hindi919
      @top5hindi919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@razikrazi1351 💔🫂

    • @priyanshubisht1918
      @priyanshubisht1918 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@razikrazi1351at dhekna galti se bhi isse accha 11 August ko gadar 2 ayegi wo dhek lena

  • @user-sf9vg3mi6c
    @user-sf9vg3mi6c ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now we know "why Katappa killed bahubali..."He traveled to the future and saw Adipurush!!😂😂😂😂

  • @kartik8419
    @kartik8419 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    IMO, these are the best sources and adaptations of Ramayan:
    1. Original story from Ramcharitmanas/Ramayan.
    2. Ramayan classic TV serial by Ramanand Sagar.
    3. Japanese Anime movie Ramayan - The Legend of Prince Ram by Yugo Sako.
    4. Ramayan in comics form by Amar Chitra Katha.

  • @syedimran-yt2ls
    @syedimran-yt2ls ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Bro i am a muslim but bachpan me maine bhi kai baar ramayan dekhi animated dekhi thi lekin wo bhi is se achi thi

    • @Rah_6967
      @Rah_6967 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That animated movie was made by japanese

    • @nitinchaudhary9993
      @nitinchaudhary9993 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True Bhai jab ramayan ati thi tab sab dekhate they kya Hindu kya muslamaan hum apne uncle k Ghar jakar dekhte they or vo muslim hai

    • @mohammadasif-ux2fd
      @mohammadasif-ux2fd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rah_6967 japan ne banai thi? Matlab yaha ke log nahi bana parahe hai dangse

    • @nikhilyadav1455
      @nikhilyadav1455 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mohammadasif-ux2fdindian aur japan anime company ne collaboration kiya tha bhai

    • @girishchand444
      @girishchand444 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mohammadasif-ux2fd bro wo b 90's mein or us tym VHP ne baans de dia tha ki animation nai dikhayi jaye jabki itni authentic banayi thi baad me 2003 k aas pas tve release Hui thi or amrosh puri voice as ravan kya hi gazab thi or ek ye banayi hai om raut ne , occhapan bilkul

  • @tuhinbhattacharjee3334
    @tuhinbhattacharjee3334 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I have literally never seen Shubham so angry. 😅

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      so true!🥶

  • @mukeshnirmalkar2538
    @mukeshnirmalkar2538 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    गुरू बिन काहू न पाया ज्ञाना, ज्यों थोथा भुष छड़े मूढ़ किसाना।
    गुरू बिन वेद पढ़े जो प्राणी, समझे न सार रहे अज्ञानी।
    कबीर, नौ मन सूत उलझिया, ऋषि रहे झख मार।
    सतगुरू ऐसा सुलझा दे, उलझै ना दूजी बार।।

  • @deepanshukumar7461
    @deepanshukumar7461 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    That's why SS Rajamouli is a legend director in Indian film industry.

  • @aniketpatil8116
    @aniketpatil8116 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Bhai log baaki sab films rehne do pehle isko boycott karo, insulting hindu culture is not done, bollywood always does this. I knew it will be bad, but this is horrible 😑😑😡

    • @ShivPatel-ds3kp
      @ShivPatel-ds3kp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Look at south first there are many more examples from south

    • @thesuperincridibleaction7508
      @thesuperincridibleaction7508 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isko kya poori bollywoodiya urdoowwod ko bycott kartey rahengey😠😠✊✊.
      Jai siya Ram 🙏

    • @aloksingh82658
      @aloksingh82658 ปีที่แล้ว

      But Ye Lollywood movie hai

    • @ShivPatel-ds3kp
      @ShivPatel-ds3kp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thesuperincridibleaction7508 pahle south ko karlo salo pure gao ka nepotism leke baite ho sala sab ka sab nepotism hai and South sale kuch jyada respect nahi karta mandir ki aarti se sigrat jalake pite,yamraj ko gunde ki tarha dikhate,Shree Krishan ki wife par comment pass karte, shivling ko khandit kardete

    • @ShivPatel-ds3kp
      @ShivPatel-ds3kp ปีที่แล้ว

      @binny104 bro download karke nahi dekha me me theater me dekha hu 3d me 3d iss liye kyuki ye director bol rha tha 3d me best experience milega but pura dark lag raha chasma nikal kar dekhna pad raha

  • @AnkurSharmaASLI
    @AnkurSharmaASLI ปีที่แล้ว

    Now That's called an honest review.
    Subscribing again 🙏

  • @sumitagarwal9209
    @sumitagarwal9209 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bhai movie to me dekhuga nahi but tmhara rewiew dekh k maza aa gaya bhai.. loved your tone and work

  • @max-cs9ko
    @max-cs9ko ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I feel weird after watching it, need to watch Ramanand Sagar Ramayan again to feel better😢😢

    • @AdrenergicSquad
      @AdrenergicSquad ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Watch the legend of Hanuman 🕉️🚩

    • @max-cs9ko
      @max-cs9ko ปีที่แล้ว

      @Binny bro, stop this propaganda, kashmir file and kerla story are also made in Bollywood

  • @SuperVij007
    @SuperVij007 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    I'm surprised that no one had talked about boycotting this. A movie which actually insults our culture by showing it in such a pathetic way. People were running around for boycotting brahmastra which was a fictional movie showing positives about our culture.

    • @victoryv116
      @victoryv116 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gems of Bollywood calls for boycott for it from the start ...

    • @CS-dx1fx
      @CS-dx1fx ปีที่แล้ว

      Boycott is a bad agenda that people use to target some persons specifically. It doesn't matter whether content is good or not. If you're not in good books or some politician, your content will be boycotted

    • @letmeknowyourname6101
      @letmeknowyourname6101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kis duniya me rehte ho?

    • @utkarshk22
      @utkarshk22 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Brahmastra was crap too. You'll see it's effect in second part. Boycott or not, bad movies will be avoided.

    • @rowoflamps
      @rowoflamps ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Boycott this film trending on insta bro

  • @arshgahlot3603
    @arshgahlot3603 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Even tho im a Muslim, ive always been curios and fond of hindu mythology. Ive been grown up watching epic legends like ramayana and mahabhararta. It breaks my heart to see Such legends being insulted this way, and for what? A moment of fame? Monetary benefit? Shame on om raut for making this sad excuse for a traditional bollywood movie.
    Also i belive prabhas shouldn't b the one facing backlash, cause he just did what was instructed to him, he's a good actor and i respect him for obvious reasons, he was just not for lord Rama's role

  • @sugandhachakraborty7979
    @sugandhachakraborty7979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well said brother this kind of review was absolutely needed .... Please avoid this movie WE DON'T NEED ANY MODERN RAMAYAN AND MAHABHARAT ...

  • @sachinsain3884
    @sachinsain3884 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Even,my Muslim friend was saying what the hell was this. They totally changed the peace, spirituality which they got in ram sagar ramayan

    • @aay1111
      @aay1111 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Bro m muslim n they ruined it. Japanese version Ram was Cutest version n most og version.. RIP om raut vision

    • @sanatshirodkar4064
      @sanatshirodkar4064 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@aay1111The Japanese one is undoubtedly the best version we've so far seen!

    • @aay1111
      @aay1111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sanatshirodkar4064 Wanna rewatch it badly.. seriously pl galiya do inko mera bht mann b mgr log muslim smjhke pakistan bhejdege mujhe🥺😭

  • @sourabhsuri466
    @sourabhsuri466 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shri Ramanand Sagar Ji's nirmitt RAMAYANA in 1986 and Shri B.R Chopra Ji's Nirmitt MAHABHARAT, will always continue to spread their LIGHT through out the time. Generations after generations will love those 2 EPICS and will love all those genius artists (Shri. Dara Singh Ji, Shri. Arun Govil Ji, Shri. Arvind Trivedi Ji، Deepika Ji, Sanjay Jog, Sunil Lahiri Ji, Vijay arora ji, Sudhir Dalwi Ji, Sunil Rajda and everyone in Ramayana, in MAHABHARAT (1988), Arjun Feroz Khan Ji, Nitish Bharadwaj Ji, Mukesh Ji, Mayur Ji, Vivek Rajdan Ji, Girija Shankar Ji, Praveen Jo, Gajendra Ji, Gufi Ji, Puneet ji, Surendra Pal Ji, Pankaj ji, Deep Dhillon ji for their Epic performances, for being deeply there into the characters and LIVING THEM.
    🌹🙏🙏🕉🙏🌹

  • @advocateshivambhardwaj9547
    @advocateshivambhardwaj9547 ปีที่แล้ว

    thankyou so much straight forward baat krne k liye.

  • @IdkWtfImDoingWithMyLife
    @IdkWtfImDoingWithMyLife ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Summaried perfectly now that's called a honest review ..big ups to shubham and mensxp ❤

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      💕💕

  • @arpitdadheech
    @arpitdadheech ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Shubham woke up today and chose voilence & decided to destroy this movie! Thanks for the honest review man.

  • @makarandkagwade__17
    @makarandkagwade__17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb Review Bhai,Very Well Said💯👌👏👏

  • @amanbanka957
    @amanbanka957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never commented on any video but esse jada honest review nhe ho sakta. When i went there to see this movie I was waiting for ki kuch to aacha dikha do.

  • @aryanp1235
    @aryanp1235 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Just saw Adipurush. I have such a high hope for it but it break my heart. Its Unbearable, pathetic, traumatic devastating. I have seen worst movies but it is worst of worst. Sirf aur sirf hmare bhagvan , hamare dharm ka majak bnaye hain .
    Maker of this film have done a punishable offence.

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      :(

    • @rap9703
      @rap9703 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      bro teaser trailer
      cheekh cheekh k chilla rha tha
      mai barbaadi hun himmat h tabhi aana
      still ja rhe ho
      kya scohe the chamatkaar hoga film mein🤣🤣🤣

    • @aryanp1235
      @aryanp1235 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rap9703 Bhai bhagwan ji k naam pr chla gya .

    • @yoyo_69007
      @yoyo_69007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rap9703 bhai isliye to hindu ko andhbhakt bolte hai, itna bakwas vahiyat teaser aur trailer dekhne ke baad bhi jo hindu ye movie dekhne gya hai vo kucch nhi ek faltu gadha hai bas....

    • @aryanp1235
      @aryanp1235 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yoyo_69007 andhbhakt to sabhi hain , Muslim and Christian bhi

  • @arceusyoda
    @arceusyoda ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Just going to watch the OG Ramayan Series with my family this week. Need some Positive Vibes. And the intro songs of the original Ramayan series still feels so soothing. Even in Lockdown I never skipped that intro and that was among the best choices I made that time.
    (Tbh socha tha VFX aur CGI ko ignore bhi kr dunga toh kitna hi bura hoga, but itna bura hoga kabhi socha bhi nahi tha)
    Going back to Basics.

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      OG Ramayan series>>

    • @aakanksha7877
      @aakanksha7877 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sita Ram Charit ati paavan, ati madhur aur ati manbhavan...
      Ye padhte hai aur dimag me apne aap baj jaata hai.. Ye hai beauty ❤

    • @rajbiswas249
      @rajbiswas249 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even Siya Ka Ram is much better than this abomination

  • @aakashkant
    @aakashkant ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yugo Sako's The legend of prince rama and Ramanand sagar's Ramayana were and are and always will be Legendary classics!

  • @siriusblack6758
    @siriusblack6758 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you bro for expressing authentic reaction ❤

  • @ryuktheshinigami7213
    @ryuktheshinigami7213 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    this is why i love honest reviews, honest 🙏 Jai Shree Ram

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jai Shree Ram🙏

  • @shubhiagarwal7604
    @shubhiagarwal7604 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    I really appreciate the consistency of Shubham and Rajesh, no matter how many views they are getting, they are keeping the spirit of entertaining us.🎉🙏

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      much appreciated!😊

    • @someshpandey936
      @someshpandey936 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree

    • @you-gamerz1391
      @you-gamerz1391 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mensxp ❤

    • @ramanandpatel7419
      @ramanandpatel7419 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      गीता अध्याय 4 श्लोक 34 में गीता ज्ञान दाता किसी तत्वदर्शी संत की खोज करने को कहता है। आखिर कौन है वह तत्वदर्शी संत? जानने के लिए अवश्य पढ़ें अनमोल पुस्तक ज्ञान गंगा।

  • @rsrahulshastri
    @rsrahulshastri ปีที่แล้ว

    Well Said Bro.... Your each n every word is right.... 🙏🏻

  • @divyankarvarma8558
    @divyankarvarma8558 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The animated Ramayan which used to come on Cartoon Network was the best. I Used to get goosebumps when i was a child 🌟

  • @nitikshasharma9263
    @nitikshasharma9263 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This drama will give tough competition to Ekta Kapoor's "Kahani Humare Mahabharat Ki" 😂😂

    • @sabhyasingh6674
      @sabhyasingh6674 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I remember that show...... that was equally terrible 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Righty22
      @Righty22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @foodjunkiecgyashdharmani327
    @foodjunkiecgyashdharmani327 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Ramanand Sagar's Ramayana ♥️✨ forever in our hearts ✨

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว

      ❤❤

    • @rumiroy3784
      @rumiroy3784 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ramanand Sagar Ramayan has better CGI than Adipurush

  • @satyamdas134
    @satyamdas134 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    वेद गवाही देते हैं कि पूर्ण परमात्मा कविर्देव(कबीर साहेब) राजा के समान दर्शनीय व अविनाशी हैं।कबीर साहेब 600 साल पहले सशरीर पृथ्वी पर आये थे और 120 साल तक पृथ्वी पर सतभक्ति का ज्ञान देकर सशरीर ही वापिस चले गए थे। मगहर में आज भी इस घटना की यादगार बनी हुई है।

  • @itishreeshah3041
    @itishreeshah3041 ปีที่แล้ว

    Delighted to have such an unfiltered review!!

  • @chaahatyaduvanshi4730
    @chaahatyaduvanshi4730 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This show should be named as Shubham Rants after this video 😭😭😭..........btw nothing was expected from Adipusrush 😬

  • @houseofthedragonnewsup
    @houseofthedragonnewsup ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Best review till now
    audience should unite against this scam , insult of your religion , our feelings. Bollywood will stop making cringe content if we all speak 🗣️ and boycott them together.

  • @thewalker3509
    @thewalker3509 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes you are right ..this film has to be ban and we should all complaint a case file regarding this

  • @tootechnical0504
    @tootechnical0504 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are so many mythological television shows which were so good. but this is Just total disrespect of our culture. OLD IS GOLD

  • @inderr7bajaj
    @inderr7bajaj ปีที่แล้ว +179

    I really appreciate one thing that Shubham was continuously mentioning Ramayan as History and not Mythology (as most people does)... Being a Hindu we should all believe and call Ramayan and Mahabharat as our history and not Mythology...

    • @sk....3049
      @sk....3049 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      History k liye evidence lgte h

    • @radhikapasricha1949
      @radhikapasricha1949 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@sk....3049tujh jaise ko evidence dikhaake bhi tu tu ulta hi bolega.. a.. tujhe malum bhi hai Hanuman chalisa kbhi padhio usme phle se likha h Suraj Prithvi se kitna dur hai jab Hunuman jee ne survy ko phal smjhke khaana ki koshish kri thi tab tere scientist khn the..
      Thoda sa bhi kitaabon or culture ko ved, puraan ko pdh lega na saari akal aa Jani h tujhe

    • @inderr7bajaj
      @inderr7bajaj ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@radhikapasricha1949 no use of arguing with people... Those who believe will believe, those who don't will not, no matter how much evidence we give... Jai Shree Ram...🙏🏻

    • @inderr7bajaj
      @inderr7bajaj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sk....3049 no worries bro... Jai Shree Ram...🙏🏻

    • @kkondur7619
      @kkondur7619 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Him asking evidence is like that Dhobi in Ramayana who asked for evidence of Sita's purity after returning from Lanka. Even when Valmiki had owed to sacrifice his knowledge if Sita were to be impure and he didn't lose it, still these people doubted Sita"s purity. Ultimately she had to end her life.

  • @userisemotionless
    @userisemotionless ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I watched siya ke ram more than 5 times... Trust me.... Ashish sharma was impeccable as lord ram ❤❤ his eyes , his body language, his expressions, his dialogue delivery, his sophisticationess was perfect for ram. Even karan suchak who. Played lakshman was so. Perfect with his character and his body language and expressions.. And then its adipurush🥱🥱🥱🤮🤥🤥🤥

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😊

    • @userisemotionless
      @userisemotionless ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mensxp omg you replied 🫨🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷

    • @malvikasharma5809
      @malvikasharma5809 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I completely agree Siya ke Ram was a beautifully made series. Loved every actor of the series.

    • @raja-jl9os
      @raja-jl9os ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tv actors better h but unko muka nhi milta h

    • @aradhyamohanmehra2218
      @aradhyamohanmehra2218 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!!!!

  • @yogijangid3262
    @yogijangid3262 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Bhai.. me dekhne Jane ke soch he raha ta.. thanks once again 🙂🙌🏼

  • @shalinidas4603
    @shalinidas4603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ramayana-The legend of prince Ram made in 1992, anime version was so beautiful..idk why these people are not doing to our own culture..tysm for the review btw

  • @sivaprasadkadancheryillam
    @sivaprasadkadancheryillam ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Glad that in our generation someone knows about all these like you and future ia bright if all can think like you❤️

  • @deathstalker1997
    @deathstalker1997 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    Just as I already expected from this movie, I don't get it why still some majority of people trying to defend this😂😂......loved your review ❤

    • @harshadwaghmare-ve2vs
      @harshadwaghmare-ve2vs ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They also defend brij bhushan...

    • @tusharsharma8952
      @tusharsharma8952 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harshadwaghmare-ve2vs hmm They also defend shaheen bagh, people really are dumb isn't it?

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😊😊

    • @theinevitable7981
      @theinevitable7981 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @Preet 9 I have defended baba bageshwar and will continue to do it but I'm against adipurush and also telling others not to watch it

    • @theinevitable7981
      @theinevitable7981 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@harshadwaghmare-ve2vs I have defended brajbhushan but I'm against adipurush and also telling others not to watch it

  • @Official-yc6rw
    @Official-yc6rw ปีที่แล้ว

    Well said.. Makers of this damn movie were not even aware of the story they didn't even read it I think.
    Though Ravana was demon yet he was brahmon by birth, he was well educated,cultured and loving toward his countrymen ...

  • @ninanina164
    @ninanina164 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If this movie was done in more fantasy dream sequence of a 10yrs old,it would have worked. If parent recites a story to a child, that child would correlate evil like they have shown in the movie. He would imagine the life as its in 2023 villans place and this are

  • @sasa_05
    @sasa_05 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    He looked genuinely angry this time most of the time he used to sarcastically criticise stupid movies, that proves how much we the Indians are hurt and heartbroken after witnessing such an unbearable visual insult to the epic that lays the very foundation of oir richest culture. Lanka looks like god of war background released for ps2. Koi mahan aatma inn makers par case kardo or uss om raut ko to keench ke thappad maarna chaiyye poora mood kharab kardia.

  • @YO_POGT
    @YO_POGT ปีที่แล้ว

    Ur veryyyy right brother. Kudos to you for such an honest review. U got a new subscriber❤

  • @eos_1111
    @eos_1111 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Surprised to see mensxp allowing honest review of a terrible Bollywood movie and not using unnecessary sarcasm to divert criticism 😂 haven't seen the movie and definitely not going to thanks to shubham's honest review which honestly we could gauge from the trailer 😢

  • @aadi2808
    @aadi2808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sanjay Leela Bhansali: Director
    Ram: Ranbir kapoor
    Raavan: Ranvir Singh
    Sita: Deepika Padukone
    Hanuman: Rajkumar Rao
    Laxman: Some emerging star from Netflix
    Perfect cast

  • @shravanisongirkar4480
    @shravanisongirkar4480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honest Review bhai
    Ramanad Sagar ji's Ramayan was epic. No one can replace it.

  • @Xploit_GG
    @Xploit_GG ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Thank You for the Review..❤❤
    Btw i feel like indrajeet was straight out of God Of War 3 (Baldur) video game 😅

    • @iabhisingh07
      @iabhisingh07 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Indrajeet was full copy of baldur boss in god of war

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😊😊

    • @Xploit_GG
      @Xploit_GG ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iabhisingh07 exactly dude

    • @AshutoshSingh-vo9ks
      @AshutoshSingh-vo9ks ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bilkul sahi bola bhai Baldur hi lag rha indrajeet kahin Modi aur uska ek aur bhateeja bhi na copy kiye ho ye sab 🤣

  • @shivanisingh-pc1yx
    @shivanisingh-pc1yx ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Thank you for saying truth.. really appreciate. We need to speak up for our next generation.

  • @sumanpadhy8564
    @sumanpadhy8564 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aapka gussa dekh k pataa laga ki how much respect you have for our culture ..very rightly said about the film

  • @saikikoshish
    @saikikoshish ปีที่แล้ว

    Starting se lekar end thak aapne bilkul sach kaha hai bayya

  • @garimasachdeva14
    @garimasachdeva14 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Today's time wherein individuals are excessively sensitive without cause, it requires immense GUTS to openly express the truth and uphold the integrity of one's profession which you've have done greatly. Good job!

  • @jaiminsharma
    @jaiminsharma ปีที่แล้ว +137

    This just shows why Brahmastra was a landmark in Indian vfx.... Even tho, it was Mediocre at its best but I still think what they achieved with the given budget is freaking insane... And by Indian standards they knocked it out of the park with VFX... This just shows how important the director is to the project.... I feel sorry for the actors involved in Adipurush... Director is to blame here

    • @jasmijayan
      @jasmijayan ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Brahmastra was done by the studio which has worked in great movies like inception i.e Dneg that's why even their basics looked great. Adipurush was done by Fractal pictures which is a startup company.

    • @seemonjena659
      @seemonjena659 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Apart from the dialogues I don't think Brahmastra was in any way mediocre. Yes the dialogues were not good but the world building was really nice. And the acting would have been great had the dialogues been good. And all those who were criticizing the VFX saying it was laser show and stuff where are those morons now?!!

    • @jaiminsharma
      @jaiminsharma ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jasmijayan Doesn't matter.... Startups oftentimes deliver great projects as well... This is project failed because it lacks vision... Even with terrible VFX... A good story has power to override all of that.... Old Ramayan had really lousy VFX but it didn't matter because it was true to it's source Material and the director had a vision...

    • @jaiminsharma
      @jaiminsharma ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seemonjena659 That's true also Bhramastra was made with lower budget than that of Adipurush... It baffles me how disastrous it turns out

    • @unlikelylikeable6819
      @unlikelylikeable6819 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brahamastra was a laser light show nothing more then that! 😂

  • @manojkumardash8392
    @manojkumardash8392 ปีที่แล้ว

    OLD Ramayan Cartoon voiceover with Late Amresh Puri Sir and Satrughan Sinha Sir was awesome.

  • @fit_wid_geek
    @fit_wid_geek ปีที่แล้ว

    I was watching Shiv Tandav by Ashutosh Rana ji recently and man, he seems so perfect for the role of Raavan! Just look at him, his voice, aura, acting everything ❤

  • @HiteshJalwaniya
    @HiteshJalwaniya ปีที่แล้ว +107

    MenXp deserves applause 👏👏
    Your team nailed it .
    Truly appreciate the honest review ❤

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      means a lot🥰

  • @aum8136
    @aum8136 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    2 minutes of silence for those who got fooled and went to see Jumanji with low budget dialogues

    • @aay1111
      @aay1111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol...m shocked being Muslim k dialogues ese likhe inine wo b Bhagwan k liye ... Bhai Muslim Dushman n h Sbse phoe ye log khud Dushman h hindu epics k..
      Mujhe khud muslim hoke believe n hora k ese chhichhore words aur slangs Hanumanji k liye likhe gye...
      Kisi hindi professor se likhwa lete..
      Aur whi Mahabharat k dialogues dekho Ramanand sagar ji wli.. will u believe wo ek Muslim ne likhe h?

  • @kopalsharma2846
    @kopalsharma2846 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well done for this review!

  • @gunjan445
    @gunjan445 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is rajesh? Was waiting to see review from both of u!!

  • @atharvakulkarni3312
    @atharvakulkarni3312 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    As Expected😁

  • @rajatrawat5283
    @rajatrawat5283 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    To the point review ...if it is bad it's bad no cover should be given to such work..
    That's why we don't want someone to make Mahabharata,they will do the same thing with that.

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :((

  • @sudhirjagannathan3651
    @sudhirjagannathan3651 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi shubham... I'm a fan... I just want you to know that the the original ramayan was written by valmiki... You are referencing the second... Ram charit manas written by Tulsidas

  • @vinayakbedi
    @vinayakbedi ปีที่แล้ว

    After sooo long you have got the best response what you actually deserved shubham bhai❤️💪🏻

  • @ananyap9646
    @ananyap9646 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This review was so raw and hillarious 😂😂. Ok I'm subscribing to this Chanel now

  • @dhruvbhatnagar4423
    @dhruvbhatnagar4423 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Literally an honest review 👏👏

    • @mensxp
      @mensxp  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😊😊

  • @vbamazingshots8943
    @vbamazingshots8943 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review... Kuch logo ko ac main beth kar nigetive review dena bohot easy hai but ek vfx artist ko pata hota hai use banane mai kitna day night ki mehnat lagti hai our inko video banane mai or galiya dene mai sirf kuch minutes lagte hai....

  • @mitterfox98
    @mitterfox98 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only video in Mensxp where they don't beat around the bush and come straight into the topic