juanda has some easy tells: 1. touch of the neck before looking (sign of lack of confidence) 2. instance glare at the opponent after the opponent calls (sigh of disbelief) 3. pulling back of chips when raising on the turn.
Hey, thanks for replying, I was beginning to think I might be senile, LOL. Your scenario totally agrees with mine. Touche, sir. You make an excellent point, that people can't seem to grasp: that winning is not = to playing good. I see this "argument" all too often at my local card room. Despite my explanations to the contrary, people INSIST that players who win on any given session, are automatically "good" players. It's a preposterous notion, but they can't seem to see it any other way.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Easily the best explanation I've seen of this hand so far. My view of what happened, Murphy might have put Juanda on a pair smaller than 10s, and was hoping to suckout. When he didn't hit, he shoved praying that Juanda doesn't call there, knowing that anything that calls him beats him. An all around bad play that worked out in the end. One thing people don't realize is just because you took down a pot does NOT mean you played a hand well.
lmao I congratulate too, just because I like to keep that positive table vibe going. Not a fan of pissing someone off to get them on tilt towards me (unless I'm running red hot where I can't miss, then I try to give them more reasons to call lol) but I'm card dead so often, and get that table image of a "rock" (supposedly only plays the nuts), it makes it so much easier to pull off a bluff
@shroey20 pretty standard to call with ace high in tournaments, especially with that kind of flop. but i think that it requires a lot of skill to call a second bet on the turn, considering that a great proportion of his stack was being committed at this point. great play by both.
Lol, definitely. A coworker and I were just talking about it today that the way some people manage to win clouds their view on whether they are playing "good" or not. They get it in their head that their losing over the last month was just a bad run, and nothing to do with poor play, rather than vice versa, where the "bad run" was because they played poorly, and the one positive day was actually a huge fluke that they were lucky on. I deal table games, so it's about 1000x worse than poker lol
I think both players simply put each other on nothing more than A high. And I think that Murphy, by making the move on the river, wanted to push Juanda off a better ace in case he had one, or if he didn't have he wanted to take the play away from Juanda so he wouldn't have to make a tough decision for all his chips. Well played by both of them.
It is pretty standard calling with ace high on a paired flop against a continuation bet on the button, they make it sound like this is the first time it has been done in history.
@foreverguga If he wanted to represent the 2, he would have check raised on the turn . It would only make sense to check raise to protect against the flush draw that was on the board if in fact he was representing that he had a two in his hand. If he was representing anything on the river, it would be a flush because the third diamond came and he moved in.
@qjuice14 totally agree with you, if juanda would have anything he would have probably insta - called. He could face only 77 (and that would re - raise so there aren't any flop problems but it's a slight possibility) or air with A - high for cover but with his stack he couldn't fold if he had caught anything.
Am I the only one that show the nervous tells radiating from John Juanda every time that guy called? He knew that A-high was biscuits. John looked like a deer in headlights that whole hand.
I think both played it very well. The all in on the end wasn't as bad as a play as u all may think. If you're looking at someone's hole cards it's alot easier to know what to do. Just incase John was bluffing with a hand like AK or AJ that all in on the end would have pushed that hand off. Or even if Juanda had AA or KK or AQ that's a tough call when he goes all in when a 3rd diamond comes out, and not not only could he have the flush, but slow playing a boat..that's what Murphy was doing.
The best part is that these rare lucky hits keeps them coming back, and it dictates their poor play. It's as if they "learn" from their "mistakes," whenever the miracle set of 3's comes on the river after they folded already. Same with pre-flop, where their already mucked rags would have flopped trips or a flush, so they play ALL suited cards, lol. Many people will criticize them when they win, but I congratulate them instead. I love that they chase the 22.5 to 1 miracle with 22, LOL. ;-)
Funny thing here was that Juanda probably thought to himself "This guy probably had a Q from the very start and was just slowplaying it, damn it, what a donk I am".Great play by this guy
Those types of people are either ignorant, trying to save face, or trying to tilt their opponent. Tony G. is a brilliant example of the tilting reference.
It was brilliant on the fact he knew Juanda didnt have anything that could beat the board. He took advantage of his early position on the river because the perfect suit card came (running diamonds). Why would you check or value bet there only to get re-raised or put all in by the button? Smart read
Murphy was representing a 2. It would have been a good call for murphy pre-flop with A2. Even if Juanda had KK or AQ, it'd be hard to call his last all-in. On top of that, it was possible that Juanda was bluffing because of the texture of the board, so it was a great time for Murphy to make a move.
I agree completely. Especially the big time gamblers who will chase 1 or more outs regardless of pot odds, implied odds, etc., and the rare times they hit, they insist it was a genius play. I'll admit, I'd take "luck" over "skill" any day of the week (at least "good" luck lol), but there's a huge difference between being a lucky fish and a skilled pro.
Agreed. "He doesn't want to get check/raised here" (c/r Q22 rb flop?) "He has to proceed with caution here, and he does just that, he bets 1200..." "It takes a really special player to fire a second bullet into a pot"
Juanda's physical tells = "I do NOT have a deuce!" So even with a Queen he would have a tough time calling Murphy for the rest of his chips. Perhaps Murphy surmised this and so floated the turn just so he could open-shove the river knowing it was 99% certain he wouldn't be called.
A player can bet all kinds of ways. It doesnt matter whether you got a trips, flush or nothing as long as you can bluff your way through. I can have flush but i pretend not to bet first. I can have flush again and i bet all-in. Sometimes its about making yourself look unpredictable to your opponent. Sometimes its just about winning this hand and so on.
If you scroll down you will find the youtube poker experts. Lol
juanda had twips
Steve Darius 😂
Steve Darius juanda from indonesia
You always have great poker instincts until the river saves your opponent...
"I had trips."
+MythicalBeast *twips
+MythicalBeast :01-:03 "I have tits"
No I did not!
sick
juanda has some easy tells: 1. touch of the neck before looking (sign of lack of confidence) 2. instance glare at the opponent after the opponent calls (sigh of disbelief) 3. pulling back of chips when raising on the turn.
Juanda had trips!!!!! Keep it alive!!!!...
He didn't.
Armando G. is a reference to another Juanda vid
thats why Murphy represented the flush. He wanted to move Juanda off trips :D
Juanda still has trwips in 2019 bro bro
"it takes a REALLY special player to fire a second bullet into a pot". lol.
If only Markholt had the heart and commitment to the game he'd have rivered a flush.
PURE ART WORK!
Oh my gosh! John Murphy is my hero. He makes a call on Ace high, Mark.
yeah i have no doubt that is one of the best ive seen cant miss the next one
Very well played Murphy... Great play!!
GOD DAMN! I've seen this guy make some phenomenal reads - he definately has some hellacious talent
that was seriously sweet. gave me chills
That was just insane!!!! My god those instincts were nuts!
the saddest part of the video was, the last person to fold before juanda should've won for flush lol
+Linette Mendoza Yea...he was probably internally screaming when turn and river came up diamonds haha
+John Philip Of course he wasn't. It would have been stupid play even if he won
Too much money for a too small winning probability. Even when he has a flush, someone could have had 2 diamonds, one that is higher than 8.
Juanda: "Damn, he has tweeps..."
Hey, thanks for replying, I was beginning to think I might be senile, LOL.
Your scenario totally agrees with mine. Touche, sir.
You make an excellent point, that people can't seem to grasp: that winning is not = to playing good. I see this "argument" all too often at my local card room. Despite my explanations to the contrary, people INSIST that players who win on any given session, are automatically "good" players. It's a preposterous notion, but they can't seem to see it any other way.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Easily the best explanation I've seen of this hand so far. My view of what happened, Murphy might have put Juanda on a pair smaller than 10s, and was hoping to suckout. When he didn't hit, he shoved praying that Juanda doesn't call there, knowing that anything that calls him beats him. An all around bad play that worked out in the end. One thing people don't realize is just because you took down a pot does NOT mean you played a hand well.
Completely agree Hyrugaful. Playing off the flush is a very legitmate move.
What are the stack sizes throughout?
is that earl strickland beside juanda??
Juanda was representing trips, classic
lmao I congratulate too, just because I like to keep that positive table vibe going. Not a fan of pissing someone off to get them on tilt towards me (unless I'm running red hot where I can't miss, then I try to give them more reasons to call lol) but I'm card dead so often, and get that table image of a "rock" (supposedly only plays the nuts), it makes it so much easier to pull off a bluff
This is what I love abt poker.. no matter how much experience u hav, or how many games u won, a rookie with balls can fuck ur life up!!
pretty standard in my opinion, these commentators just have to jazz it up a bit
+doratar76 youtube pro poker player right here boys
+doratar76
Not standard in 2007.
@shroey20 pretty standard to call with ace high in tournaments, especially with that kind of flop. but i think that it requires a lot of skill to call a second bet on the turn, considering that a great proportion of his stack was being committed at this point. great play by both.
I just came for the "I had trips" joke :D
That was great to watch!
HELL YEAH!!!! MURPH DAWG!!!! kid plays well beyond his years. and hes rockin a REAL t-shirt. KEEP IT REAL!!!!!
@version191 is that why you watched it buddy?
Lol, definitely. A coworker and I were just talking about it today that the way some people manage to win clouds their view on whether they are playing "good" or not. They get it in their head that their losing over the last month was just a bad run, and nothing to do with poor play, rather than vice versa, where the "bad run" was because they played poorly, and the one positive day was actually a huge fluke that they were lucky on. I deal table games, so it's about 1000x worse than poker lol
Amazing calls!!!!!!! What a player
i felt bad,
that was classic
i would cry if som1 calls that bluff
I think both players simply put each other on nothing more than A high. And I think that Murphy, by making the move on the river, wanted to push Juanda off a better ace in case he had one, or if he didn't have he wanted to take the play away from Juanda so he wouldn't have to make a tough decision for all his chips.
Well played by both of them.
damn. i love juanda and all but that was a beast play by murphy.
I see "poker stars" written somewhere at 0:02.Can you spot it?
hell of a hand of poker played by murphy. great job.
who was clapping in the background?
murphy played the hand to perfection, gr8 play..
Juanda played it like a set!!
no trips?
anyone knows how can i play in those kind of tournaments?
It is pretty standard calling with ace high on a paired flop against a continuation bet on the button, they make it sound like this is the first time it has been done in history.
juanda is a beast player but props for that guy making that move.
That's just the way we Murphys roll.
IMO he completely booked him, judging by how he reacted to the river...great play!
juanda is a boss. top 5 poker player for sure
Best hand of poker i've ever seen
@foreverguga
If he wanted to represent the 2, he would have check raised on the turn . It would only make sense to check raise to protect against the flush draw that was on the board if in fact he was representing that he had a two in his hand. If he was representing anything on the river, it would be a flush because the third diamond came and he moved in.
@qjuice14 totally agree with you, if juanda would have anything he would have probably insta - called. He could face only 77 (and that would re - raise so there aren't any flop problems but it's a slight possibility) or air with A - high for cover but with his stack he couldn't fold if he had caught anything.
but juanda had trips!!!
I only had to scroll down 4 comments this time before I read this...does that mean it's finally dying???
john_blaze39 nope, 2019 here and still alive
john_blaze39 don't think so
I agree It was a good move on both sides. The problem was if anyone remembers the PPT was a freeroll event and only the top 10 got paid.
very well-played
Phil Ivey vs Paul Jackson was an epic bluff v bluff.
Juanda not having a stack played a big role
awesome Murphy play!
Am I the only one that show the nervous tells radiating from John Juanda every time that guy called?
He knew that A-high was biscuits. John looked like a deer in headlights that whole hand.
ahhh the fake clapping at the end
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He played it like a set, he played it like a set!
Great Play by Murphy.
To be clear, i never said being unpredictable is MOST important. I also didnt say maximizing value is not important.
I think both played it very well. The all in on the end wasn't as bad as a play as u all may think. If you're looking at someone's hole cards it's alot easier to know what to do. Just incase John was bluffing with a hand like AK or AJ that all in on the end would have pushed that hand off. Or even if Juanda had AA or KK or AQ that's a tough call when he goes all in when a 3rd diamond comes out, and not not only could he have the flush, but slow playing a boat..that's what Murphy was doing.
I jizzed when he made that call.. Balls of steel
Murphy.. wow!
The best part is that these rare lucky hits keeps them coming back, and it dictates their poor play. It's as if they "learn" from their "mistakes," whenever the miracle set of 3's comes on the river after they folded already. Same with pre-flop, where their already mucked rags would have flopped trips or a flush, so they play ALL suited cards, lol. Many people will criticize them when they win, but I congratulate them instead. I love that they chase the 22.5 to 1 miracle with 22, LOL. ;-)
@mehedi5551 I very much doubt that Mizrachi needed staking in the Main Event!
that was awesome.
Juanda hat Twips!
Funny thing here was that Juanda probably thought to himself "This guy probably had a Q from the very start and was just slowplaying it, damn it, what a donk I am".Great play by this guy
Those types of people are either ignorant, trying to save face, or trying to tilt their opponent. Tony G. is a brilliant example of the tilting reference.
Oh my god John Murphy is my hero!
that dealer works at Bellagio for yrs and does wpt events and is super nice
all the man on this table should now regret that they havent brought a sunglasses
Bluffing with the best hand.
freakin insane
@Drex910 John always puts on a big show.
It was brilliant on the fact he knew Juanda didnt have anything that could beat the board. He took advantage of his early position on the river because the perfect suit card came (running diamonds). Why would you check or value bet there only to get re-raised or put all in by the button? Smart read
Murphy was representing a 2. It would have been a good call for murphy pre-flop with A2. Even if Juanda had KK or AQ, it'd be hard to call his last all-in. On top of that, it was possible that Juanda was bluffing because of the texture of the board, so it was a great time for Murphy to make a move.
wud he ever take that long to bet turn w trips?
I agree completely. Especially the big time gamblers who will chase 1 or more outs regardless of pot odds, implied odds, etc., and the rare times they hit, they insist it was a genius play. I'll admit, I'd take "luck" over "skill" any day of the week (at least "good" luck lol), but there's a huge difference between being a lucky fish and a skilled pro.
Juanda had trips!!
Played it like a set
I love how everyone is a poker pro on the internet
Agreed.
"He doesn't want to get check/raised here" (c/r Q22 rb flop?)
"He has to proceed with caution here, and he does just that, he bets 1200..."
"It takes a really special player to fire a second bullet into a pot"
Anyway for poker, a win is a win. It doesnt matter whether or not you have the best hand or whether you bluff n win.
Juanda's physical tells = "I do NOT have a deuce!"
So even with a Queen he would have a tough time calling Murphy for the rest of his chips. Perhaps Murphy surmised this and so floated the turn just so he could open-shove the river knowing it was 99% certain he wouldn't be called.
Murphy knows Juanda is bluffing, and Juanda knows that Murphy knows that he is bluffing
i agree and i think if the two players had about the same stack size no way he calls those bluffs
you must of not seen Murphy run at the 04 wsop, kid plays solid.
Juanda had Trips
Cute shades
murphy was the first to talk, juanda lays it down after murphy call all in
A player can bet all kinds of ways. It doesnt matter whether you got a trips, flush or nothing as long as you can bluff your way through. I can have flush but i pretend not to bet first. I can have flush again and i bet all-in. Sometimes its about making yourself look unpredictable to your opponent. Sometimes its just about winning this hand and so on.
very nice all in in the end
Doing that is sooooo much fun, but if you fall in love with that rush it's gonna cost you serious dollar.
So you're SB with A10, Button bets into Q22, and you'd fold?
Poker was so simple these days... Today it's an average play, those days commentary is jumping out of their pans.
who is that girl in the start
he's playing against a range, not just jack ten. he felt his opponent was weak, but some of his bluffs beat ace high.