notice that S2J's 2018 tier list is pretty much exactly the same as zain's/IBDW's in 2021. notice that S2J is simply operating 3 years in the future always
When you realize Leffen's tierlist is Zain's tierlist and he just changed the names of tiers.... Zain's tierlist "makes sense" but Leffen's tierlist "I completely agree" really makes you go HMMMM
Someone should do a “guess the player based off their tier list” game. Like go into it blind. Honestly you can tell who made it a lot of the time without looking. Like armada and leffen have puff super high cause their biggest threat was hbox for a long time. Ginger has falco super high cuz he’s weird. Amsa has puff super low cause he’s always gone even with hbox (at least somewhat even for many years) Etc.. kinda cool how subjective these are
Armada and Leffen have puff super high because they both hate the character with a strong passion and they want to push the narrative that Hbox is carried by the supposed best character in the game, not because Hbox is their biggest threat. Remember, Armada is up 33-19 against Hbox in lifetime head-to-head and Leffen was up 4-1 against Hbox in 2019. Also, having falco super high on the tier list isn't really a far fetched opinion. I think he is easily top 4 in the game and maybe even top 2. I think he is slightly worse than Fox but he could arguably be better than Marth. I believe M2K considered Falco as the best character at one point iirc. And aMSa only beat Hbox twice in his lifetime out of the total 9 times they played so I wouldn't say they've always gone even.
You should have seen M2K new tier list since the one you check out in this video is outdated. His new one had some very hot takes lol, but still interesting to see.
4:08 That is not Hbox 2021 teir list. Hbox placed fox at the top of his list and not Marth. I saw when he made it. He even said "Fox has always been the best character and always will be." He also pointed out that "Of course people suddenly put Marth at the top the same way people suddenly put puff at the top when he was the best player."
Hey bro just so you know when I go to your channel it gives me an error. Idk if this is TH-cam’s fault or what but it’s not doing it to other channels.
Leffens tier lists have as s-tier the player he loses to atm every time. It was Puff, now its marth if Querb steps his game up its gonna be game n watch lmao
0:21 “yoshi is above peach” ... that’s your first thought? Not that yoshi and peach are both above FALCO?!
notice that S2J's 2018 tier list is pretty much exactly the same as zain's/IBDW's in 2021. notice that S2J is simply operating 3 years in the future always
Leffen has done the biggest bait and punish in melee history
At last... it’s come full circle. I can’t wait for a tier list of tier lists of tier lists
but we'll need other videos like this first
When you realize Leffen's tierlist is Zain's tierlist and he just changed the names of tiers.... Zain's tierlist "makes sense" but Leffen's tierlist "I completely agree" really makes you go HMMMM
evidence.zip 4
Someone should do a “guess the player based off their tier list” game. Like go into it blind.
Honestly you can tell who made it a lot of the time without looking. Like armada and leffen have puff super high cause their biggest threat was hbox for a long time.
Ginger has falco super high cuz he’s weird.
Amsa has puff super low cause he’s always gone even with hbox (at least somewhat even for many years)
Etc.. kinda cool how subjective these are
Armada and Leffen have puff super high because they both hate the character with a strong passion and they want to push the narrative that Hbox is carried by the supposed best character in the game, not because Hbox is their biggest threat. Remember, Armada is up 33-19 against Hbox in lifetime head-to-head and Leffen was up 4-1 against Hbox in 2019.
Also, having falco super high on the tier list isn't really a far fetched opinion. I think he is easily top 4 in the game and maybe even top 2. I think he is slightly worse than Fox but he could arguably be better than Marth. I believe M2K considered Falco as the best character at one point iirc.
And aMSa only beat Hbox twice in his lifetime out of the total 9 times they played so I wouldn't say they've always gone even.
You should do a 2025 tier list where you predict meta changes and come back to the video in the future
You should have seen M2K new tier list since the one you check out in this video is outdated. His new one had some very hot takes lol, but still interesting to see.
@@Parpeing He put her under the space animals and Marth at 4th, which isn't much of a hot take.
Edit: Marth not Falco
Where is this tier list
4:08 That is not Hbox 2021 teir list.
Hbox placed fox at the top of his list and not Marth. I saw when he made it.
He even said "Fox has always been the best character and always will be."
He also pointed out that "Of course people suddenly put Marth at the top the same way people suddenly put puff at the top when he was the best player."
Ah yes, the Larry Lurr. Love to see it!
Each video is straight gas
Hey bro just so you know when I go to your channel it gives me an error. Idk if this is TH-cam’s fault or what but it’s not doing it to other channels.
Are u and Zain literally sharing the same brain? Why are y’all posting about tier lists at the same exact minute
Cody is inside Zane’s brain
When will we have tier lists of tier list tier lists?
Leffens tier lists have as s-tier the player he loses to atm every time. It was Puff, now its marth if Querb steps his game up its gonna be game n watch lmao
2:20 I stay spitting
IBDW feel for the Leffen bait
remember when puff was considered the best cause hbox
CITY OF TEARS!!!
Fox players complain about everything including how not bm their taunt is
All these tier lists.... why don’t we just make another smash back room list so we don’t have to get these flooding our feeds everyday 🥱