THE NINTENDO PLAYSTATION - The Nasty Divorce of Nintendo & Sony !!! - A Gaming History Documentary
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In today's video Lady Decade takes an indepth look at the story of the Nintendo PlayStation. A joint console venture between Nintendo and Sony that would see the companies go their seperate ways with Sony making their own console.
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Nintendo Playstation Superdisc
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• 1991 Summer CES
1991 Summer CES
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NINTENDO PLAYSTATION - Announcement Trailer 1991 | Concept by Captain Hishiro
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INTERVIEW WITH SONY PLAYSTATION/NINTENDO CONSOLE OWNER TERRY DIEBOLD
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Nintendo Playstation Sold?! - Terry Diebold & Jeff Meyer Interview - PRGE 2019
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• PRGE 2016 - Nintendo P...
PRGE 2016 - Nintendo Playstation with Ben Heck, Terry & Dan Diebold - Portland Retro Gaming Expo
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Nintendo Playstation Superdisc
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Nintendo PlayStation Prototype: Finally Working!
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Ben Heck's Nintendo-Playstation Prototype Pt 1 Teardown
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You've done by far the most comprehensive version of this story I've ever seen. Great material.
Nintendo's sticking to cartridges costs them their alliance with SquareSoft. The N64 didn't do too bad at all but the PS1 overshadowed it in game variety.
And now the PS5 is considered revolutionary for having no loading, like the N64 did lol. It tells us marketing is just a matter of big money.
Which also cost them their alliance (at the time) with Enix as DQ7 was a PS1 exclusive and there were no Enix games on the N64.
I absolutely love this channel
It's funny Nintendo and Sony had the breakup, and yet Sega was the one that lost everything in the Divorce.
That's because Sony was busy acquiring Columbia Pictures from The Coca-Cola Company in late 1989.
Nintendo embarrassed Sony on stage, then went on to watch the PlayStation embarass them in sales, funny how the world works. He who laughs last.......
Poetic Justice at its finest!
Sony drew first blood with that contract taking royalty fees from Nintendo. Nintendo would have been a de facto 2nd (if not 3rd) party. Sony would have been in the driver's seat one way or another.
Sega also embarrassed Sony when they were asked to partner up "What does Sony know about video games?" I believe was Sega's response. Then that 1995 E3 moment happened...
@@mohammedganai9636 Kinda like how Nintendo treated all of its 3rd party partners namely Namco which infuriated Namco so much the CEO made a news article in a paper condemning Nintendo as a greedy monopoly and threatened to make their own rival console with NEC (which fell under due to Hudson objecting to the idea who were already partners with NEC). So no, Nintendo were never saints in that regard. They just got a taste of their own medicine.
@@budgiecat9039 That was mostly Nintendo of America, not Nintendo as a whole. But if you think Nintendo of America was bad, Sega of Japan was far, FAR worse. During the Master System days in Japan, Japanese 3rd parties stayed away from the Master System of their own volition in favor of Nintendo; why, because Sega of Japan wanted more than 95% of all software royalty fees for each software/cartridge manufactured and sold. It was because of Sega of Japan's ruthless and draconian policies that Namco, Capcom, SquareSoft, Enix, Taito, Konami and others couldn't stand Sega of Japan and refused to develop for them or work with them. While yes, Nintendo of America was indeed very controlling and manipulative of 3rd party publishers in North America, they at least acknowledged how important 3rd party support was for the NES and gave them better rights than Sega of Japan. Sega of Japan was very ruthless and very unfriendly towards 3rd parties and didn't appreciate how important they were in the gaming industry.
Nintendo of Japan(one could say) was basically Sony; before Sony even came to the hardware market. Nintendo of Japan gave 3rd parties fairer licensing deals, reasonably priced dev-kits, allowed 3rd parties to manufacture their own cartridges in house; provided Nintendo would keep a small percentage of revenue for each software sold(which is why there are different cartridge variations for the Famicon in Japan), allowed 3rd parties to customize and produce their own sound chips and processors in house for their cartridges royalty free, and was just overall easy to get along with.
The only real reason Sega was able to get 3rd party support during the 16 bit years was Sega of Japan gave Sega of America's Tom Kalinske full control of the company by engaging more friendly with 3rd parties and heavily supported 3rd parties in a different way than Sega of Japan did; in exchange for putting Sega on the map in the early 90's.
It wouldn't be until after Sega finally convinced retailers to sell the Genesis/Mega-Drive, that Sega filed a lawsuit against Nintendo of America for their unfair monopolizing practices that they finally got what they needed to get the console wars going. Nintendo of America was not only forced to release their grip on 3rd parties, but they were also forced to pay Sega about 6.2 million dollars in damages for unfairly hogging the market from other competitors in North America.
I've been bored for most of the day and then Lady Decade blessed me with a new video. Thank you. :)
I LOVE whenever you post a new video. I jump to watch, I really find all this information so fascinating! Such a soothing channel 😌
I've watched several other videos on the Nintendo PlayStation, but none were as thorough or well done as this. Nice work, I can't wait to see more videos from you! :)
Your videos are amazing, keep up the good work! You clearly do your research and demystify a lot of stuff one would hear about in the pre-internet era but had no way of further digging into
Why has no one ever given more info like you do?? I’m so happy for your content. Thank you Ms. Decade! :D
Holy cow!!!
I remember asking all these questions in the early 2000’s racking my brain trying to TH-cam it. Finally we have answers!!! Love your content✌🏽
Thorough investigation! I knew a little bit about this and heard many stories, but this gives a great insight. Finding a great source material back in the days of the internet's infancy was really challenging and as a kid I was more interested in playing and having fun.
Like always, great content. Keep up the good work Lady Decade! Much love and respect!
Excellent video Lady Decade! This is the most comprehensive coverage of this story I've seen so far. Thank you for your thorough work!
Excellent synopsis. Gaming Historian did an equally fascinating video on it. I'm surprised you two haven't collaborated (unless I missed it).
*Mate, your videos are well good! Always surprised about something new you show! cheers!*
"The Marty Jannetti of their tag team pairing." What a great reference! HAHAHAHAHH *kicks Sony through the glass*
You never fail to put out quality content. Keep up the good work Lady Decade!
I'd been waiting for this
THOUSAND thanks Lady Decade, keep them coming ;-)
Nintendo creating their greatest rival will never not astound me. I also wonder how the industry would have been if they never fell out
We coulda have gotten Secret of Mana on it's full glory complete with FMVs and a superb soundtrack. I'm pretty sure that opening was meant to be animated.
@@Invidente7 that still breaks my heart
@@thecunninlynguist The PS1 might have died like the 3DO if the N64 had used CDs instead of cartridges. That was the biggest blunder Nintendo has ever made and they are still paying for it to this day. Ironically, I think they might have also inadvertently saved Sega in the hardware market.
@@58jharris hard to say what would have happened the generation that would follow. The entire debacle did teach nintendo to ease off a little with 3rd parties. It took a while for them to recover with third parties, but we've slowly been getting there
@@58jharris It was Sony that decided to go full throttle with 3D CD-ROM games. Did you watch the video? (Sega first intended Saturn to be 2d until they saw what the PS1 was capable of.) Plus, Kutaragi/Sony were hungry either way after seeing Game Boy crush it.
Holy molly Lady! You always go a step further than other channels! Thanks!!!
Your videos are such a joy to watch and I love your accent.
1:06 caused me to do a literal spit-take in surprise.
X vs Zero as your background music?
Truly quality stuff. I'm very much impressed.
Excellent video! You should update the "consoles" playlist on your channel to include this video -- and heads up, there's some random video about hair at the top of that playlist you might want to remove! XD
While I already knew this story, there were some details I did not know! Great job Lady Decade!
Awesome as always!
Thank you Lady Decade for getting more information on this. Learnt new things from this video where other videos from others left out.
Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. :-)
Fantastic video! Great coverage of this obscure "almost-never-was-prototype" console! I was fortunate enough to see it in action in person. Quite a cool console. I didn't know all the details with the licensing side of it between Sony/Nintendo so those details were excellent additions. Your work continues to impress! Can't wait for the next one!
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As a fan of both gaming history and WWE/pro wrestling, I very much enjoy your videos and the various pro wrestling references you make. I'm proud to say I'm one of the few viewers who actually got the Marty Jannetty reference.
Awesome video! I'm actually working ona what if video about what could have actually happened if the Nintendo playstation went through. Needless to say this video came at the right time for some much needed research.
Thanks for this video. Very interesting video. I have never heard this before. Thank you
Lol the background music had me thinking there were police sirens outside. Very informative vid, I never knew most of this stuff!
Phenomenal video as always
Brilliant as always! :D
Awesome video Lady!😀
Awesome video ! i would have like to play this addon
This is certainly one of the more interesting stories in gaming history
Great video.
We are lucky they ended up parting ways because now we have two gaming giants. Three if you count Microsoft.
I’d definitely count Microsoft. I was all nintendo until I switched to the XBox 360. Never owned a PlayStation.
@@seansweeney3365 I have never been an Xbox guy until this generation. I picked up the series X & S and I love them. I even traded my ps4 pro for an Xbox one X. Now I have an Xbox in every room with a tv.
@@jameshenderson4089 Yup, I got into Xbox when I saw the previews of Elder Scrolls: Oblivion and knew my WII wasn’t gonna get that title. Ever since Microsoft has been my home entertainment center. But I still got a switch for the nostalgic Nintendo titles.
More competition is always better for consumers
@@jameshenderson4089 just curious, why do you like the Xbox so much? I have an S too. I've been a fan since the original Xbox came out. I originally had a PS2 when it first came out, but the Xbox sucked me in with the game "Fable". Nothing will beat playing Halo for the first time with friends either. I like both PS and Xbox, but man do I dislike the PS controller. It feels so tiny in my hands.
Awesome video
Nice video thanks
Had a friend who swears blind he's got one of these !! Think he's just full of.. Great video awesome channel.
I was lucky enough to have played the original Nintendo PlayStation with my Dad back in about 2018 or 2019 at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo when it was on display. As a nerd it was one of the specialists moments in my tech history hahq
It’s really just a Super Nintendo, nonetheless still very cool !! That must have been a great experience just to see the unit itself
@@TheStinkysteve Just a Super Nintendo with an absurd bump in the amount of memory available and CD quality sound.
I hear that several titles were well into development , would love to see footage of those
I'm dying to see that
@@Batman-jm7np Square's Secret of Mana was apparently one of them. The game had to be scaled back to fit on a cartridge.
Great Video👍🎮👍
Wow.. so many memories but never ever heard of this...good stuff 👏
Very Good Lady Decade 👍 I never knew 😊
Nice video love the tekken 3 soundtrack
Glad to hear the guy is planning to put it in a museum. That's where it belongs in my opinion.
Damn, wasn't expecting a Rockers reference
You deserve more subscribers!
Johnny Arcade sighting at 6:15! Nice!
This history is the Nintendo's first big mistake. The second one was keeping the cartridges as software media, in consequence that brings the 3rd Nintendo's big mistake: letting squaresoft go to Sony's arms.
And all that bunch of bad decitions were made in less than 5 years and changed Nintendo's fate forever.
Worst part, Phillip's was interested in continuing snes cd add-on. But nintendo part ways with Phillip's. Another missed opportunity. Phillip's cd add-on would've crushed the sega cd.
Can't scratch cartridges. I still can't believe how many people just leave their discs lying around with dust, crumbs n juice spots all over them.
Accepting a deal allowing Sony to get the control of licensing would have been way worse for them eventuelly.
how do you manage to make so many videos like this? I feel like most gaming history channels do like one video per month
Of course no shade intended just to put that upfront but a lot of these videos have already been done over the course of years so they are not hard to find and research of course it’s nice to get a refresh and she’s def added other things that I have not heard previously so that is good to learn new things and that’s what people who do these type of videos should be doing(or not) adding new things so it’s not just a complete rehash
Work is work though when doing this type of stuff so there is that!
Like Gaming Historian. I like his channel, but he's really slow to be honest.
So happy for playstation to arrive to my childhood, thank you for a very good video!
Another great episode. This and Atari fumbling the NES are surely the two biggest errors in gaming industry history.
There was a terrible mixture in here. On Nintendo's side, we have Hiroshi Yamauchi, who was known for being EXTREMELY PARANOID about his business. And on the Sony's side, a managment that was extremely greedy about the terms of their deals. So in the end, it was a marriage destined to fail from the start.
video game crash was a huge error
@@budgiecat9039 That was a cumulative situation. The two I referenced were caused by a single person in both instances that then caused a tidal wave of irrefutable change. Not even similar.
Sega of America vs Sega Japan was a pretty big error. The 32X vs the Saturn. Hilarious. Same company competing against itself.
Your channel is a treasure trove of obscure video game facts.
The Marty Jannetti part made me laugh my a$$ off😂😂😂
The Marty Jannetty Barbershop reference 😂😂😂
Fantastic 👌🏾
Good informative video. I do wonder what the alternate reality with the “Nintendo PlayStation” would of been like 🤔
Greek..... My limits to that are Kali Mera, and Pater Imon... But overall I loved the video. The corrections on the misknown theories is great.
7:58 Where do I go, and what do I type in the search prompt, to see the Phillips commercial that features this stop motion clay hippo family?
This could have been an epic collaboration between the two now all I can do is the "CD Quality" sound games on emulation just imagine on the whole "what if" scenario. The closest I got to this was a Turbo Duo.
Yooooooooooooooo
Did you use Ace Combat 2 music?????????
RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are indeed CULTURED.
Ace Combat 2 had an AWESOME soundtrack, one of my favourites.
Tekken 2-opening theme at 0:00, right from the start
And both Nintendo & Sega are still kicking themselves to this day.
Nice!
Well done M'lady
I’m super glad you threw in the Marty Jannetty reference, but have one small nitpick. Shawn Michaels didn’t Superkick him through the glass, he Superkicked him, then picked him up and threw him through the glass afterwards. It certainly would’ve looked more punishing if he indeed kicked him so hard that he flew through the glass!
How I wish history had played out differently! I love the concept of the Nintendo PlayStation, and I love the way it looks. While I own a couple of Xbox generations, I always feel more at home with the games and controls of Nintendo and Sony.
Nice
This is a fantastic documentary! I hope you do ps3!
"Rocking the boat" - when you're a boat rocker, opportunities and obstacles look the same.
Haha! The Marty Jenetty... Awesome obscure reference.
Problem with cartridges is the limited storage. Benefit of cartridge is the speed games can load at. I would of loved to see Nintendo games with greater textures back then, but you know - growing pains.
Also, large storage was so damn expensive back then.
Biggest problem is that at the time, innovation was at the forefront and the ocean of gamers who were young kids when the NES launched were now just venturing into their teenage years. The PS1 felt much more like a console for teenagers and adults. It was the natural progression.
It just further fueled that movement that a lot of the heavy hitter JRP's were going to jump ship, due to the ability to have FMV and much more storage space. Plus pressing CD's was far cheaper. Nintendo made all the game publishers buy the blank carts from Nintendo directly.
It was a perfect storm of bad choices by Nintendo, and excellent choices by Sony
Lady decade do you produce your own videos just a question
I kind of wish this would have happened, because I think it would have made it and who knows how things would be today.
Loved The Rockers reference
It's worth noting that Nintendo did use parts from Sony for their DOL-101 optical drives used on later revisions of the Nintendo GameCube. I have taken apart a ton of cubes.
Is that some sweet 16-bit Macross footage at 2:38!?
Why has no one 3d printed one yet?
👆^this - for real^👆
I just luved PS1... The best console for me... But I enjoyed playing N64 and Sega Saturn a lot... They also have a special place. That shows no need for console war. Just enjoy those splendid machines with the best they have to give us... Before 5th gen my favourite used to be Sega Genesis/Mega Drive and on 3rd was Famicom/NES... Oh so many good memories...
Love the WWE reference :)
Marty Jenetty was underrated 👍
One of the best and most important stories in video game history IMHO. While I haven't been a PlayStation faithful since the PS2 I absolutely appreciate what they've done for and within the industry. The only thing that really irks me about them is that they destroyed the Dreamcast. Not saying Sega didn't have a hand in that, but if Sony hadn't been in the marketplace, the Dreamcast and Sega may have had a much different outcome. Although the Xbox would have wiped the floor with the DC. Still, there may have been room for both companies to exist. Man, I just miss Sega as a console company even though I only ever owned a DC during their legacy.
Sega def had more of a hand in that due to the failures prior of the 32X and the Saturn. Too much internal fighting within Sega. Not to mention a ridiculous amount of spending on developing two (actually maybe even 3 i forget) Dreamcasts at the same time between regions. One of the reasons Shenmue cost so much was it was originally being made for the Saturn but the fail of the console prompted it to be moved to the DC
@@budgiecat9039 yep, I can't argue a single point you made. All true. I believe it was 2 systems. Black Belt and then Dural if memory serves me right. Ahh, man, it was just such an amazing and exciting time in the industry.
I look forward to the Sega and Sony video.
Excellent! I am uploading it this time next week!
i love the WWF reference, "the marty Jannetty".
Then again a Collab with either Modern Vintage Gamer, Retro Man Cave or Ctrl-Alt-Rees would probably be more likely, given travel considerations.
This is the best Nintendo PlayStation video I’ve watched for information. They’re all very good though.
Not really part of this history but closely related: the MSU-1 virtual chip used in emulation aka SNES CD. Several games modified with extra video or music were made by the community, aiming at what the Nintendo Playstation could have been.
The saga that began the turn to the dark side... Wait did Lady Decade go Sith just now?
But seeing this console functional, is mind blowing. To imagine what if things did not fall apart between Sony & Nintendo
I’m here for the Marty Jannetty reference lmfao
i remember reading about this in the nintendo power years ago. but sega came out with the sega cd. at the time. but if nintendo didn't screw up the deal between them & sony. we would had a sweet cd add on for the super nintendo. witch would put sega cd to shame. thank you nintendo for giving us the playstation.
The sega cd would've died quickly after snes cd add on was released especially the Phillip's version.
It was a bad deal for Nintendo.
Man, Ken kutragi is so handsome. I can't believe anyone could be so handsome.
The two big parts for me are both companies inking massively one-sided agreements. Maybe that's what they do in Japan, as anything is felt to be negotiable later on.
That and honor/pride being huge, leading to either side being too stubborn to course correct. One of the 32X team engineers for instance admitted to being too afraid to speak up and suggest to the Sega of Japan president that the 32X should have been canceled.
There is one thing that continues to bug me about that prototype - the logo and PlayStation text look too much like the later official Sony versions. If it was really from an earlier form, and given we have seen the myriad prototype logos as well, it seems highly unlikely that the hardware shown at the trade shows circa 1992 would have such a recognisable later logo.
Yet we have every evidence that it did. It wasn't unlikely in the slightest.
RIP Terry Diebold 👍
Could you do a video about an obscure French console?
This was an amazing story when I first heard it🎮👑